Skip to content

Seahawks violation arose when helmetless players banged heads

LOS ANGELES, CA - SEPTEMBER 18:  Head coach Pete Carroll of the Seattle Seahawks watches the game in the third quaarter of the home opening NFL game against the Los Angeles Rams at Los Angeles Coliseum on September 18, 2016 in Los Angeles, California.  (Photo by Harry How/Getty Images) Getty Images

The Seahawks found themselves on the wrong side of the NFL’s offseason workout rules in 2014. They made changes to their OTAs in order to keep it from happening again.

One change included removing a common piece of football equipment. But it didn’t work.

“We took helmets off our guys, we didn’t practice in helmets the entire OTA season and learned a lot about how to do that,” coach Pete Carroll told reporters on Monday. “We had a really good offseason, no issues at all. We practiced eight or nine weeks last year without helmets on because we had learned how to do that well. We went into this year with all of the alerts to do it well again.”

Not wearing helmets, of course, can lead to injuries. And one specific injury apparently got the Seahawks in trouble, according to Carroll.

“We had an unfortunate day, guys banged heads, and that brought an issue,” Carroll said. “The league came and checked it out and they felt like we were in violation. We’re trying to do this really well and trying to be great at it. I was really disappointed that it came to this, but they got to do what they go to do. We’re going to continue to work really hard to do this well. We practice hard around here and we always have, and we have to do it right. We’ve made strong efforts to do that but we’re still working that out.”

Overall, Carroll sounded extremely contrite. Getting fined $200,000 individually tends to do that.

“I just have to make sure I do a better job,” Carroll said. “We have to work harder to understand what everybody else is doing and really just stay within the lines of what they think is right. We had the league come in and talk to our players, we showed them what we were doing and all that stuff in the offseason again this year, and we just have to do a better job.”

Indeed they do. Whatever they have been doing hasn’t solved the problem. Next year, they’ll have less offseason practice time and one fewer draft pick because of it.

Permalink 42 Comments Feed for comments Latest Stories in: Rumor Mill, Seattle Seahawks, Top Stories
42 Responses to “Seahawks violation arose when helmetless players banged heads”
  1. seatownballers says: Sep 19, 2016 9:01 PM

    What does this matter?
    It obviously hasn’t benefited the seahawks. One touch down in 2 games.
    This offensive line is bad.

    Next year’s Seattle draft:
    1st round; left tackle.
    2nd round; right tackle.
    3rd round; a swing tackle.
    4th round; a guard that can also play tackle.

  2. whenwilliteverend says: Sep 19, 2016 9:02 PM

    He sounds contrite because this time he got caught and couldn’t run away before facing punishment.

  3. mongo3401 says: Sep 19, 2016 9:02 PM

    Dude, the helmets are worn for a reason. Seattle is playing like they have no brains.

  4. jackericsson says: Sep 19, 2016 9:02 PM

    Pete Carroll caught cheating? Again? I wonder where he learned how to do that. *

  5. nords14 says: Sep 19, 2016 9:02 PM

    So an accident between two players happens and the league flexes its muscle? Lombardi, Parcells, Knoll etc… Would have probably received a lifetime ban with how they prepared their teams for the coming year and they are considered the best.

  6. thegreatgabbert says: Sep 19, 2016 9:05 PM

    Now we know why the Squawk players are all brain dead. They bang heads without helmets.

  7. deepwater805 says: Sep 19, 2016 9:10 PM

    The worlds most violent collision sport practicing without helmets is as crazy as Carroll’s antics on the sidelines yesterday. Maybe he was showing the young men how it’s supposed to be done…without a helmet.

  8. jmethane says: Sep 19, 2016 9:17 PM

    Speaking of brainless most of these comments don’t seem to have a clue what they’re talking about. They practice without helmets because they’re not supposed to be having any contact at all.

    He was thinking that if they weren’t going to wear their helmets maybe they would be less inclined to get crazy competitive and actually hit each other. You know like what happened last year. He didn’t run away from that one either.

    Bottom line the CPA needs to change all these injuries during the season have everything to do with no contact in the offseason.

  9. justafanofnfl says: Sep 19, 2016 9:17 PM

    They should go back to leather.

  10. jmethane says: Sep 19, 2016 9:18 PM

    CBA*

  11. thebirdofprey says: Sep 19, 2016 9:20 PM

    Its funny, 90 % of the fans here who know anything about the CBA talk about its limits to players and the product on the field. Seattle has guys going hard without helmets who accidentally bump heads, they get called cheaters. Sounds like a bunch that has gone soft.

  12. theimmaculatedeception says: Sep 19, 2016 9:23 PM

    No matter how long or helmet less they practice, these Seattle Seahawks aren’t even a top 10 team in the league any longer. The Panthers and Cardinals have lapped them. The Packers have been better for 2 years now. The Rams are obviously better as are the Cowboys and Giants, They would get downright embarrassed against the top 5 in the AFC and you could argue they would lose on the road to 8 of the 16 NFC squads.

    The glory days of 2012 and ’13 are long gone for the since 2012’s

  13. dtroxallday says: Sep 19, 2016 9:24 PM

    @nords14 …to be fair, rules have changed a bit in the 50yrs since Lombardi was around, 40 since Knoll…

    That being said, I’m old-school and couldn’t agree with you more.

  14. beastmode5150 says: Sep 19, 2016 9:32 PM

    Since obviously a few of you are new to football, i will explain a few things.

    Seattle usually starts very slow early in the season.

    Seattle has had a shaky offensive line for years

    Seattle has lost 3 in a row to the Rams, therefore its obviously a bad matchup.

    Seattle has been in two of the last 3 superbowls and won one of them.

    Having players bump heads doesn’t mean Pete Carroll is a “Cheater”.

  15. charger383 says: Sep 19, 2016 9:33 PM

    practice should be hard enough to make the game seem easy

  16. jackedupboonie says: Sep 19, 2016 9:34 PM

    Seattle has yet to beaten by more than a score in 4 years ( one game by 9 to chargers) so keep telling the world how bad they are all the while your team occasionally gets blown out of the building any given week.

  17. aballinhighgrass says: Sep 19, 2016 9:35 PM

    Cheaters

  18. carloswlassiter says: Sep 19, 2016 9:47 PM

    I thought Carroll was find for body slamming his own receiver yesterday.

  19. sdelmonte says: Sep 19, 2016 9:50 PM

    A well deserved penalty.

  20. jag1959 says: Sep 19, 2016 9:54 PM

    jackericsson says:
    Sep 19, 2016 9:02 PM
    Pete Carroll caught cheating? Again? I wonder where he learned how to do that. *
    ___________________

    Jerry Burns and Bruce Coslet are hardly * worthy so at the pro level I am going to have to go with the Niners and Seifert. The cheating in SF was epic before and during his stint there. Among many my favorite was, and Walsh even admitted it and laughed about it, faking headset trouble to prevent the opposing defense from communicating. Seifert learned from the best and no doubt Carroll picked up plenty from him while he was there. Maybe he should have used some of what he learned there while he was in NE, it might have saved his job. But it really took going back to the morally bankrupt NCAA to show Cheaty Petey the benefits of skirting the rules to have success, ensuring there were fall guys aplenty then getting out of Dodge ahead of the posse.
    Hope that clears up the holes in your Pete Carroll knowledge and answered your question.

  21. nobobyisreadingthis says: Sep 19, 2016 9:56 PM

    The Seahawks are going to start losing scholarships…

  22. icallitlikeiseeit67 says: Sep 19, 2016 10:18 PM

    when Russell demanded 20+ million a year your “team” was screwed…..cant pay everyone and someone thought who needs to invest in the OL we want Jimmy Graham OL be damned….unfortunately football always has been about building a team from the inside out….granted you guys have some great talent on D, but with a weak OL changing every year its going to be tough there is only so much miracle water available….IMHO of coarse

  23. arvinkp says: Sep 19, 2016 10:23 PM

    NFL gets mad at team for making contact? Sorry, but I can’t wait for Hockey to start. This NFL ran by RG has become a joke. Can’t celebrate a TD, but disrespect to our flag is OK.

  24. tylawspick6 says: Sep 19, 2016 10:44 PM

    more cheating by goodell

  25. Bubbalicious says: Sep 19, 2016 11:13 PM

    He used to coach the Patriots. Just saying.

  26. dejc421 says: Sep 19, 2016 11:21 PM

    beastmode5150 says:
    Sep 19, 2016 9:32 PM
    Since obviously a few of you are new to football, i will explain a few things.

    Having players bump heads doesn’t mean Pete Carroll is a “Cheater”.
    _________
    Uh , yes it does

  27. shaymusvandelay says: Sep 19, 2016 11:46 PM

    Cheating?!? It wasn’t like they were deflating balls or anything, they were practicing what they would do in a game just a little too hard. Fighting in practice isn’t allowed in a game but teams don’t get fined for fights during off-season.

  28. gcbean says: Sep 20, 2016 12:52 AM

    Suck it Seattle.

  29. pittsburghdamned says: Sep 20, 2016 1:02 AM

    Can’t Russell speed-dial Jesus for emergency situations like this?

  30. campcouch says: Sep 20, 2016 2:53 AM

    CBA. The PLAYERS asked for it and his own players ratted him out.

  31. lflib69 says: Sep 20, 2016 4:48 AM

    He was actually trying to teach them how to not hit the opposing Teams’ players with their helmets in the head…yet they couldn’t resist and had to bang heads LOL

  32. lflib69 says: Sep 20, 2016 4:49 AM

    shaymusvandelay says:
    Sep 19, 2016 11:46 PM

    Cheating?!? It wasn’t like they were deflating balls or anything, they were practicing what they would do in a game just a little too hard. Fighting in practice isn’t allowed in a game but teams don’t get fined for fights during off-season.

    ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~

    There’s always a clueless one in the crowd…I’m surprised it took that long to find one.

  33. Mo Pro Babble says: Sep 20, 2016 5:19 AM

    shaymusvandelay says:
    Sep 19, 2016 11:46 PM

    Cheating?!? It wasn’t like they were deflating balls or anything, they were practicing what they would do in a game just a little too hard. Fighting in practice isn’t allowed in a game but teams don’t get fined for fights during off-season

    If you got fined, you’re a cheater. That’s how Haternation sees NE so welcome to the club.

  34. yette1 says: Sep 20, 2016 6:10 AM

    If this were the Patriots, three first round picks and coach suspended for the season. Hawks get off easy, Goodell likes them since they share colors with the JETS.

  35. muffedpunts says: Sep 20, 2016 6:52 AM

    so 90 players plus coaches and execs were each individually “generally aware” of the team’s misconduct.

    and it was a second offense for the same violation.

    the nfl’s statement reads “The rules also help to prevent any team from gaining a competitive advantage”

    so breaking a rule that creates a competitive advantage means it affects the “integrity of the game” right?

    and since all punishment is meted out evenly, each and every person on seattle payroll is now suspended right?

    where is mike “justice” kensil when you need him?!?!

  36. crewchief15 says: Sep 20, 2016 7:58 AM

    beastmode5150 says:
    Sep 19, 2016 9:32 PM
    Since obviously a few of you are new to football, i will explain a few things.
    ———————————–
    Say’s the most bandwagon fans of all time, most seahawk fans starting watching football 4 years ago. First it’s never good to say “we always start slow and we’ve lost 3 in a row before” as if this is a good thing, this is the NFL not Play Station…can’t keep stating slow and expect to always swing your way… I think we know who the NEW fan is now!!

  37. mmack66 says: Sep 20, 2016 9:18 AM

    Cheaters.

  38. intrafinesse says: Sep 20, 2016 11:29 AM

    The reason they practice without helmets is to teach the players avoid getting hit in the head, bot when tacking and getting hit. It makes sense. In Rugby they don’t get 20 concussions a game without helmets because of how they are trained.

    Pete Carrol is trying to protect his players health, it’s not a dumb thing, there is merit in his approach.

    PS – I am not a Seahawks fan either.

  39. fireroger says: Sep 20, 2016 12:42 PM

    thebirdofprey says:
    Sep 19, 2016 9:20 PM
    Its funny, 90 % of the fans here who know anything about the CBA talk about its limits to players and the product on the field. Seattle has guys going hard without helmets who accidentally bump heads, they get called cheaters. Sounds like a bunch that has gone soft.
    =========================
    Which might be understandable if this was the first time the Seahawks violated OTA rules.

  40. fireroger says: Sep 20, 2016 12:44 PM

    beastmode5150 says:
    Sep 19, 2016 9:32 PM
    Having players bump heads doesn’t mean Pete Carroll is a “Cheater”.
    =================
    Actually it does. This wasn’t the first time, right?

    Not using taped signals in the game means the Patriots didn’t really cheat, right?

  41. fireroger says: Sep 20, 2016 12:47 PM

    shaymusvandelay says:
    Sep 19, 2016 11:46 PM
    Cheating?!? It wasn’t like they were deflating balls or anything, they were practicing what they would do in a game just a little too hard. Fighting in practice isn’t allowed in a game but teams don’t get fined for fights during off-season.
    ======================
    No they were violating the OTA rules. Again.

  42. sweetnlow44 says: Sep 20, 2016 3:01 PM

    dejc421 says:
    Sep 19, 2016 11:21 PM
    beastmode5150 says:
    Sep 19, 2016 9:32 PM
    Since obviously a few of you are new to football, i will explain a few things.

    Having players bump heads doesn’t mean Pete Carroll is a “Cheater”.
    _________
    Uh , yes it does
    _______
    Uh, no it doesn’t. How is players accidentally bumping heads cheating?

Leave a Reply

You must be logged in to leave a comment. Not a member? Register now!