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Giants players considering joining anthem protests

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The Giants have not had any players taking a knee or raising a fist during the playing of the national anthem at their first two games of the season, but a couple of players on the team said there may be a change in the wake of the death of Terrence Crutcher in Tulsa.

Crutcher was shot and killed by a police officer last weekend and running back Rashad Jennings said Tuesday that he’s thought for a while that another incident would lead to more people joining Colin Kaepernick and others in using the playing of the anthem as a moment to protest. Jennings has been part of a large group text of NFL players discussing the issues behind those protests and said he’s spoken to Kaepernick as well.

“Remove football for a minute, and this is life,” Jennings said, via Tom Rock of Newsday. “These are real issues that people are dealing with on a daily basis that are blinded by a lot of entertainment. And we’re a part of who we are entertaining. We’re football players. It’s Sunday, people think ‘What are they doing? What’s my fantasy points look like?’ In reality, people are dying. Privileged people need to defend and actually voice out, not the oppressed. That’s just complaining. The people who are privileged need to voice it themselves and say: ‘This isn’t right.’ That’s what Kaep’s doing, that’s what a lot of people are doing. That’s what my whole conversation with Kaep was about, understanding where he’s coming from. And I support that 100 percent.”

Linebacker Keenan Robinson said that there’s been talk around the locker room about doing something different for this weekend’s game and about how to do it so that the message gets across correctly.

“A couple of the guys on the team have talked about it,” Robinson said. “We want to do it appropriately and effectively if we do it. We don’t want to do it in a dishonorable manner or a disrespectful way. We want to make sure our point gets across if we do do it. That’s what a couple of guys have talked about. We don’t want to do it just to be doing it. If we’re going to do it, people need to know why we’re doing it and that needs to not be taken lightly.”

Giants coach Ben McAdoo said last month that he would be disappointed if any players on the team didn’t stand for the anthem, but noted it wasn’t mandated by the team.

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  1. jimbo75025 says: Sep 21, 2016 8:17 AM

    Look at me ! Look at me !

    I’m gonna protest now !

    The world is a crappy place. A few hours of football on Sundays used to be solace for many. Now, not so much. Everybody seems intent on reminding us of all the problems we tune into football games to avoid.

    Between the players, the owners, and the league all biting the hands that feed them (the fans) time things are getting out of control.

  2. deuce2222 says: Sep 21, 2016 8:19 AM

    Do something about it! Kneeling does nothing to help the cause….

  3. GettingNoRespect says: Sep 21, 2016 8:24 AM

    You want to affect change? Kneeling at the National Anthem won’t do it. That will only bring anger to you. Sit Out! If enough players sit out, that will bring people to take action. Rich people. Owners! Do that and see results, kneel and see nothing but lost endorsements and anger at you, not the cause.

  4. joetoronto says: Sep 21, 2016 8:26 AM

    Even more ratings declines coming, idiots.

  5. luchey says: Sep 21, 2016 8:33 AM

    Unbelievable that Pro Football players will use the anthem as a stage to protest.

    What happened in Tulsa was a tragedy and it sucks. But as Jennings said, “remove football for a minute” ……

    That’s exactly what the anthem is for!!!!! A moment where all Americans to stop for a second….put thier differences aside and……stand as one United group to honor those who fought and served for your freedom.

    Find another stage guys.

  6. Mo Pro Babble says: Sep 21, 2016 8:46 AM

    Crutcher walked away and tried to get into the car. His hands were not up when he was shot. That is another Ferguson level lie. We just saw a guy running around dropping bombs in NY. Not out of line for cops to be terrified these days. If that bothers your delicate sensibilities I suggest you sign up to be a cop and show them how it’s done, assuming you live long enough.

    People who want justice have to learn that you can’t get it by lying about facts that are easy to see on the video. Crutcher may not have DESERVED to die, but he did exactly what people have been cautioned not to do. In fact he went out of his way to put himself in a deadly situation. Maybe he was hoping he’d just get roughed up and could file a lawsuit? We’ll never know but what we do know, for 100% certain, was that he did not have his hands up when he was shot. They were on his car and it appeared he was attempting to get into the car for some reason. Any deviation from that cold hard fact is pure mendacity

  7. tinkletinkleonyourstar says: Sep 21, 2016 8:48 AM

    Jennings jersey just became my doormat

  8. logicalvoicesays says: Sep 21, 2016 8:52 AM

    Report this time next week : Ratings fall for Week 3.

    Your protests will not bring Crutcher back to life. You want a statement, strongly discipline the officers who jumped the gun and took his life.

  9. petedutcherjr says: Sep 21, 2016 8:56 AM

    Except that Colin wasn’t originally protesting. He was being lazy during the anthem and only when the media jumped on it did he come up with this whole protest thing.

    However, everyone that is protesting now is doing it for the right reasons…even if I do not agree with their methods.

  10. suncawy says: Sep 21, 2016 8:59 AM

    Why are these players taking so much time talking about what their going to do during the national anthem ? If they are so adamant about this stuff, why aren’t they doing something about it ? Go to the inner cities, go talk with police officers, just do something instead of just talking about it.

  11. laces out says: Sep 21, 2016 8:59 AM

    “These are real issues that people are dealing with on a daily basis that are blinded by a lot of entertainment.”

    I don’t disagree but the reason so many of us look forward to sports and get caught up in them is to escape our personal problems and that of society. I flip off the news after work and turn on the Yankees to alleviate the stress; not be reminded of it.

  12. Lori M says: Sep 21, 2016 9:04 AM

    NFL-Stop this circus now! Privileged people SHOULD stand up for causes they believe in, but on their own time, on their own platforms and should NOT steal the anthem experience from the fans for their own purposes. Want to make a statement? Do it on ESPN in your post game interviews.

  13. jacunn2000 says: Sep 21, 2016 9:07 AM

    And the NFL wonders why ratings dropped by 15% in the first 2 weeks?? Keep your politics out of sports. Protest on your own time. When you suit up in a uniform and take the field, your an employee. Owners, police yourself and your players.

  14. eazeback says: Sep 21, 2016 9:10 AM

    coughlin would have never allowed even discussions pertaining to a protest

  15. pologroundsvet says: Sep 21, 2016 9:19 AM

    I for one would be saddened by this. Protest all you want, but on your own time.

  16. jimnaizeeum says: Sep 21, 2016 9:20 AM

    Anyone protesting the 1 dead & 5 wounded (including 2 police officers) that were shot by a loser Friday night?

  17. bigblu73 says: Sep 21, 2016 9:37 AM

    Stand For Something Or Fall For Anything !!

  18. justintuckrule says: Sep 21, 2016 9:43 AM

    In other words, don’t do that lame interlocking wussy display the Seahawks came up with. Sell out wimps. Don’t be afraid to kneel! Killing perps because you’re scared of them isn’t justified! If you’re scared, find another line of work! The kneeling is working! Racists calling themselves patriots can’t bury their heads in the sand. You’re all brave for exercising your right to free speech. The intellectually honest amongst us know you’re not disrespecting the troops. That’s a cop out counter argument. PUN INTENDED!

  19. willycents says: Sep 21, 2016 9:44 AM

    Since the Kaepernick protest hit the news cycles, NFL viewership has declined, as much as 18.4% on last Monday night. This affects advertising revenue to the tv networks, which directly affects the NFL’s income, and, directly, the players share of the pie. This will hit all concerned directly in the pocketbook. A ten percent decline in revenues from tv networks is nearly $1 billion.
    Not to say these protests are the cause, but, the owners will be taking a look at all possible causes an try to “fix” them to restore their ratings and their income. They WILL take whatever actions deemed necessary to try to solve the problem.
    If the ratings slide continues at its present rate, the salary cap could easily decline by 10 – 15% next year. Imagine the outcry from the players if that were to happen.

  20. abninf says: Sep 21, 2016 9:56 AM

    Stop the madness. Just stop. Protest when you’re not on the clock. We just want to watch football, not see guys give racist Black Power symbols or put down our country and offend the majority of the fans who allow you to make a lot of money to play a game. The only thing that is being accomplished is more division.

  21. legendofmario1216 says: Sep 21, 2016 9:58 AM

    Since the Kaepernick protest hit the news cycles, NFL viewership has declined, as much as 18.4% on last Monday night. This affects advertising revenue to the tv networks, which directly affects the NFL’s income, and, directly, the players share of the pie. This will hit all concerned directly in the pocketbook. A ten percent decline in revenues from tv networks is nearly $1 billion.

    _______________________________

    Good so I guess its working.

  22. jag1959 says: Sep 21, 2016 9:59 AM

    It is their right to do so. I don’t have to like their chosen method and I doubt at this point it is adding to any positive dialogue as much as potentially fueling a fire but I can’t deny they have a right to do it.

  23. crewchief15 says: Sep 21, 2016 10:00 AM

    The kneeling is working!
    —————–
    Other than causing more division, and yapping how is it “working”? Are people sitting down with each other discussing change? No. More importantly how will that change come about? Will the African-American Community agree they are also responsible for some of the problems OR is it ALL the rest of societies fault? You can’t fix this without change on both sides!!

  24. heat1up says: Sep 21, 2016 10:17 AM

    I don’t know if you guys realize but the flag and it’s meaning derived during the American revolution. 1775-1783. American Africans were not freed until, almost 100 years later. 1863. The flag and what it represents has nothing to do with black people. This honor we speak of was not meant for them. So should force them to stand and honor a flag does not represent them. We are so arrogant.

  25. rcali says: Sep 21, 2016 10:21 AM

    Pump the brakes on this Crutcher thing folks. As usual, more information is coming out and the NFL’s Employees need to tread lightly.

  26. legendofmario1216 says: Sep 21, 2016 10:23 AM

    Other than causing more division, and yapping how is it “working”? Are people sitting down with each other discussing change? No. More importantly how will that change come about? Will the African-American Community agree they are also responsible for some of the problems OR is it ALL the rest of societies fault? You can’t fix this without change on both sides!!
    ————
    There are actually more conversations happening maybe not in your circles but they are happening. Much of what you see in the “black” community is a result of what “black” people have gone through since they were brought to the US. There’s a very traumatic history there.

  27. factschecker says: Sep 21, 2016 10:27 AM

    Go to the inner cities, go talk with police officers, just do something instead of just talking about it.
    —————–
    Because if they do they will be black people with nice clothes and money in the inner city and shot for being a suspected drug dealer by the police.

    Terence Crutcher was just having car trouble. They shouldn’t even had their guns out or a helicopter flying over head.

    My dad is a retired cop. he only had his gun drawn twice during his career and both were on raids when they 100% knew there were illegal guns in one him and illegal drug in the other home. The way cops are trained today is our biggest problem. Deescalating the situation is their #1 priority and drawing your firearm does just the opposite. Drawing your gun escalates every situation.

  28. maiphatdong says: Sep 21, 2016 10:28 AM

    who cares, has nothing to do with the flag or the national anthem, you have a problem with the police? then go protest outside a police station.

  29. charger383 says: Sep 21, 2016 10:28 AM

    I used to like seeing NFL players making lots of money

  30. jchipwood says: Sep 21, 2016 10:34 AM

    GettingNoRespect says:
    Sep 21, 2016 8:24 AM
    You want to affect change? Kneeling at the National Anthem won’t do it. That will only bring anger to you. Sit Out! If enough players sit out, that will bring people to take action. Rich people. Owners! Do that and see results, kneel and see nothing but lost endorsements and anger at you, not the cause.
    _____________________________________
    You are 100% correct. I want those guys to sit out so I don’t have to hear about this crap or them anymore. There are plenty of guys out there to play football and I’ll watch them instead no problem. And once football has moved on without those guys they’ll be bagging groceries and it will be everyone else’s fault.

  31. heat1up says: Sep 21, 2016 10:35 AM

    The American flag was there while blacks were enslaved. 1783 to 1863. The American flag was there 100 years after slavery ended as they marched for equality in 1965. So 200 years of watching a flag blow in the wind of oppression. Wow. Very sad when you think about it.

  32. dukeblue12 says: Sep 21, 2016 10:38 AM

    @Mo Pro Babble,

    Even that bomber in NYC, who put millions of people at risk, managed to be apprehended by police without being killed. Crutcher had car trouble and ended up a corpse. C’mon man.

  33. cuda1234 says: Sep 21, 2016 10:49 AM

    IF the media would stop covering this, and glorifying it, it would all go away. Just like the proverbial tree falling in the forest with no one around.

  34. factschecker says: Sep 21, 2016 10:53 AM

    That says a lot about some of my fellow Americans.

    They have less of a problem with a criminal and or a wife beater playing the game (as long as they stand for the anthem. ) than they do a non criminal peacefully kneeling in the name of justice.

    Ray Lewis playing and being a TV personality is A-OK but the players peacefully kneeling are over the line and should not be tolerated.

  35. laxcoach37 says: Sep 21, 2016 10:59 AM

    Dear Giants Fans,

    If this happens, please be prepared to read every comment from Facebook, Twitter, PFT all NFL Giants related Blogs, etc. to have “I am boycotting the this team, never buying another Giants thing, calling the Owner, my Congressman, etc.” You will never see another actual football based response about the knowledge of the game. Just another political forum. Because of the ACTUAL message, I agree they have an right to kneel and the fans have a right to voice and boycott. Not the argument; at least not from me, but it sucks that THIS is what happens when everyone is a self-appointed expert just because they have a keyboard.

    Signed,
    A more-than-should-be loyal Dolphins Fan

    PS- Future Disgruntled Giants Fans, please consider donating your G-Men swag to homeless Veteran Shelters if you are going to throw it away or burn it in protest.

  36. duffelbagsports says: Sep 21, 2016 11:03 AM

    People are dying but we should keep doing the minstrel shows because those causing the oppression don’t agree with the means of protest.

    So MLK should have shut it down because the white people didn’t like the boycotts or the sit-ins.

  37. steelerben says: Sep 21, 2016 11:06 AM

    How dare these NFL players use their one and only platform in order to help forward a cause they believe in? Don’t they understand that our willful ignorance and delusions are more important than speaking out against social injustice? Let’s just stick to waiving the flag and ignoring racially motivated police violence because it is a lot more fun to watch athletes run around on the field than it is to think of them as human beings.

  38. djstat says: Sep 21, 2016 11:16 AM

    Here’s what is ironic, how come none of these guys protest the violence that happens where police are not involved? You know the other 99.8% of crime?

  39. luchey says: Sep 21, 2016 11:17 AM

    heat1up says:
    Sep 21, 2016 10:35 AM
    The American flag was there while blacks were enslaved. 1783 to 1863. The American flag was there 100 years after slavery ended as they marched for equality in 1965. So 200 years of watching a flag blow in the wind of oppression. Wow. Very sad when you think about it.
    =====================================TThat’s s exactly what the anthem is for!!!!! A moment where all Americans stop for a second….put thier differences aside and……stand as one United group to honor those men and women who fought and served for your freedom. Black men fought in the Civil War, WW1 WW2 Pearl Harbor Vietnam Desert Storm and are still fighting for the peace and rights of all Americans today.

    Find another stage guys.

  40. crewchief15 says: Sep 21, 2016 11:18 AM

    legendofmario1216 says:
    Sep 21, 2016 10:23 AM

    Other than causing more division, and yapping how is it “working”? Are people sitting down with each other discussing change? No. More importantly how will that change come about? Will the African-American Community agree they are also responsible for some of the problems OR is it ALL the rest of societies fault? You can’t fix this without change on both sides!!
    ————
    There are actually more conversations happening maybe not in your circles but they are happening. Much of what you see in the “black” community is a result of what “black” people have gone through since they were brought to the US. There’s a very traumatic history there.
    ————–
    Conversations (aka talking) do not equal change, show me one instance where this protest has developed into change. It’s been 150 years since any “black” people have been brought to this country. Maybe, just maybe, the “Black” community needs to look at it’s present day actions and quit falling back on the historical slavery actions. Time to quit taking the Liberal hand outs (aka a type of institutional slavery) and quit screaming racism at every situation. I know racism exist, but it exist from all race’s, the African-American community some how refuses to move on from blaming EVERYTHING on others.

  41. steelerben says: Sep 21, 2016 11:25 AM

    djstat says:
    Sep 21, 2016 11:16 AM
    Here’s what is ironic, how come none of these guys protest the violence that happens where police are not involved? You know the other 99.8% of crime?

    ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++

    Because everyone is anti-crime and this is just a distraction tactic used by people uncomfortable admitting that there is institutionalized racism in this country?

  42. jchipwood says: Sep 21, 2016 11:31 AM

    If everyone just followed the laws/rules and directions in bad situations like most Americans, there would not be a reason to protest or get suspended by Goodell for 4 games.

  43. bsizemore68 says: Sep 21, 2016 11:31 AM

    I have a right to go to the game and not see protest, when these players respect my rights, then I will respect them. However when these players leave the NFL and try this at a real employer, they will get there rear end fired. Bill…..The NFL has no leadership, and no respect for the fans, why can’t it be all about me, the forgotten fan????

  44. dadsource says: Sep 21, 2016 11:35 AM

    Hmmmm. Crutcher’s car is blocking BOTH lanes in the middle of the highway. 911 was called by two citizens about the vehicle abandoned in the highway, where a man was seen running away saying ‘it was going to explode’. The other 911 caller explained that the driver was acting irrationally and “seemed to be on something.” Officer responds to 911 call. Man goes toward vehicle that ‘may explode’ and ignores all commands. Finally puts his hands down towards his pockets. Officer seems to ‘jump the gun’ (excuse the unintended pun) on pulling the trigger.

    My questions:

    1. Why not let the taser work?
    2. Why not back away and see what happens?
    3. Why in the WORLD is anyone calling this racism?

    Do people honestly think white cops are trigger happy idiots looking to bust a cap in a brother at the first chance? Trigger happy? Maybe. Racist…..NO!!!!

  45. glow205 says: Sep 21, 2016 11:57 AM

    The football players need to take a good look around at each other, some are not so good in real life…either.
    Some are abusing women and their own children…maybe they should start change from within.

    I bet not one of them will give up a paycheck for this cause.

  46. backintheday99 says: Sep 21, 2016 12:55 PM

    Hey Jennings: You’re from the sticks in Virginia. Go walk around the Projects in the Seven Five and get back to me.

    You want to talk to the PC? He is one of the nicest people on the planet and will listen. So then DO SOMETHING instead of sitting.

    PS

    I know you don’t care but you will. You embarrass the Mara family and this will be your last year in these parts.

    Can’t wait for the Patriot’s or Steeler’s player to make this mistake.

  47. charlesbrown2316 says: Sep 21, 2016 1:31 PM

    I have a right to go to the game and not see protest, when these players respect my rights, then I will respect them. However when these players leave the NFL and try this at a real employer, they will get there rear end fired. Bill…..The NFL has no leadership, and no respect for the fans, why can’t it be all about me, the forgotten fan????


    Good fire them I’m sure they will get a new League started good luck watching the NFL with 22 Shane Lechlers saluting the flag and balling out for your entertainment

  48. landoflefselutefiskandlosers says: Sep 21, 2016 2:35 PM

    Peaceful protest is the very essence of the U.S. and I support the players doing this.

    The U.S. flag symbolizes a country which does not arrest or punish peaceful protests. I am happy I don’t live in a country which would arrest or other-wise punish those who would kneel or otherwise peacefully protest or be critical of government.

    Yes, there are still those of us out here who are thrilled to live in a free country. Those of you who wish to force people into saluting a flag or goose-stepping down the sidewalk should consider moving. China might just be the place you would be happy.

  49. msstiller58 says: Sep 21, 2016 4:44 PM

    They choose to do that, we choose to vote with a remote control. MNF ratings down, our opinions are being noticed, too.

  50. dallasdoesntdoitright says: Sep 21, 2016 6:45 PM

    No surprise here. The franchise with the least class planning a classless, not well thought out “protest”. Mara will probably figure out a way to suspend Kaepernick for starting this.

  51. dallasdoesntdoitright says: Sep 21, 2016 6:51 PM

    Embarrass the Mara family? I didn’t know that they could be embarrassed any further. The Tom Brady suspension, the cowterds and Redskins salary cap penalties, the kicker only being suspended for one game even though there is a league mandated 6 games. Come on. It isn’t about the protest so much…. it has more to do with the parity that is dissipating because fines, suspensions, bans, etc….. are dictated through goodell by Mara and the buffoon Goodell actually carries out Mara’s wishes. The weemen are a joke of a franchise. When your owner lobbies for players to be suspended when at most he should have paid a 25,000.00 fine, but his own kicker beats his wife and he gets his suspension knocked down to 1 from the MANDATED 6. Complete JOKE!

  52. justintuckrule says: Sep 22, 2016 12:21 AM

    You have a right to go to a game and not see a protest? Congrats. That’s the dumbest thing I’ve ever heard on this site.

  53. bigbluefan1 says: Sep 22, 2016 9:26 AM

    When at work you follow company rules
    If you do not follow those rules you will be terminated

    Why do a bunch of millionaires playing a child’s game not get that ?

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