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Report: Jimmy Garoppolo has Grade 2 AC joint injury

FOXBORO, MA - SEPTEMBER 18:  Jimmy Garoppolo #10 of the New England Patriots runs onto the field before the game against the Miami Dolphins at Gillette Stadium on September 18, 2016 in Foxboro, Massachusetts.  (Photo by Jim Rogash/Getty Images) Getty Images

The Patriots officially have listed quarterback Jimmy Garoppolo as doubtful for Thursday night’s game against the Texans, a category that as revised for 2016 puts his availability in the fairly wide range of 49.9 percent to 0.1 percent. (Prior to this season, “doubtful” meant that the player had a 25-percent chance of playing.)

It appears that Garoppolo is much closer to 0.1 than 49.9.

Tom Curran of CSN New England reports that Garoppolo has a Grade 2 AC joint injury, a shoulder problem that typically entails a 2-4 week absence. Which means that Garoppolo won’t be able to actually play only four days after the injury.

This means that rookie Jacoby Brissett will indeed play tonight. As we’ve said all week on PFT Live, don’t be surprised if Garoppolo dresses, with the idea that he’d hand off only, if Brissett gets injured. Or throw left handed. (I’m kidding, I think.)

As former NFL head coach and offensive coordinator Kevin Gilbride explained on Thursday’s PFT Live, don’t be surprised if the Patriots use a no-huddle attack, in order to choke off Houston’s ability to make substitutions and to give Brissett extra time to survey the Texans defense in its pre-snap alignment. With the coach-to-quarterback communication cutting off at 15 seconds, a no-huddle approach would give the coaches extra time to help Brissett pick the best play based upon what they are seeing on the other side of the ball.

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  1. black59razorblog says: Sep 22, 2016 11:03 AM

    Go Texans, Go Brock! Sincerely, #BroncosCountry

  2. tylawspick6 says: Sep 22, 2016 11:08 AM

    This SHOULD be a game where BB digs into the back side of the playbook, including the Wildcat/Run Based Chapter as well.

    Mainly, the idea that the entire Texans staff knows BB so well AND the idea it might make sense to be creative, using Edelman in motion a lot or yes, even at QB in spots.

  3. chuckshontaspads says: Sep 22, 2016 11:08 AM

    This entire post screams cheater to all haters and 345 Park Ave. Dressing a guy who won’t play? No huddle to prevent substitutions, take another pick and suspend Brady two more games.

  4. TheCakeIsALie says: Sep 22, 2016 11:15 AM

    This entire post screams cheater to all haters and 345 Park Ave. Dressing a guy who won’t play? No huddle to prevent substitutions, take another pick and suspend Brady two more games.

    ——————

    Sarcasm is not understood here and will get you a thumbs down but that cracked me up.

  5. 345snarkavenue says: Sep 22, 2016 11:17 AM

    With the coach-to-quarterback communication cutting off at 15 seconds, a no-huddle approach would give the coaches extra time to help Brissett pick the best play based upon what they are seeing on the other side of the ball.
    ———–

    15 seconds is 15 seconds….isn’t it?

    I don’t quite understand how it “gives the coaches more time….”, however I do understand how they could adjust the utilization of that time to help Brissett.

  6. ReligionIsForIdiots says: Sep 22, 2016 11:18 AM

    He’s too soft to play. You better believe Carson Wentz would go out there, rally the men in the huddle and come out with the W.

  7. TheCakeIsALie says: Sep 22, 2016 11:18 AM

    Really looking forward to this game. If Gronk does indeed play, that’s a lot of to plan for without a ton of film. I expect a heavy dose of the typical fast paced 2 TE Pats offense with a couple of wrinkle plays that suit Brissett’s size and mobility.

    More than anything, winning this game is gravy with 2 ins already in the bag. Hearing a million hater’s heads exploding at once is the cherry on top.

  8. skoobyfl says: Sep 22, 2016 11:19 AM

    The legend of Kiki grows.

  9. LyinRogerMustGo says: Sep 22, 2016 11:19 AM

    Brissett would get the start tonight regardless. Let’s see what he’s got!🙂

  10. swagger52 says: Sep 22, 2016 11:20 AM

    Too bad, the guy had a chance to retain the starting job even when Brady returned from his cheating suspension.

  11. TB12RALLYCRY says: Sep 22, 2016 11:20 AM

    This is when the whole NFL and its fans play ” the sky is falling on the Patriots ” and the ” Patriots are finished”……and the true Patriots fans welcome these comments…….Its good to be a Patriots fan indeed…….

  12. daddeeo says: Sep 22, 2016 11:20 AM

    HA the Carson chub above really made me laugh out loud. Stroke it while you can. It’s only been two games buddy.

    Speedy recovery JG!

  13. LyinRogerMustGo says: Sep 22, 2016 11:21 AM

    The Patriots rule the NFL.🙂

    It’s laughable that Patriot Hater actually thinks the puny little weaklings they call their team ever deserved to be mentioned in the same sentence as US. Quite freaking hilarious actually.

    Uh oh Patriot Hater mad again. Tee hee🙂

  14. 345snarkavenue says: Sep 22, 2016 11:23 AM

    by the way, according to a RI surgeon AC joint sprains are graded from 1 to 6, with 6 being the worst.

  15. TheCakeIsALie says: Sep 22, 2016 11:27 AM

    I don’t quite understand how it “gives the coaches more time….”, however I do understand how they could adjust the utilization of that time to help Brissett.

    ————–

    Meaning the coaches have more time to communicate while the Texans are showing their defensive set.

    The Texans would be wise to bust out an oldie from Belichick where nobody is stationary – even the down linemen – on defense until the finals few seconds. He used it against the Bills about a decade ago sometimes only rushing two. It was pretty awesome to watch.

  16. realfann says: Sep 22, 2016 11:30 AM

    Oh puleeze. If no huddle was so helpful, every team in the league would use it whether they had an experienced QB or not.

  17. firecracker87 says: Sep 22, 2016 11:31 AM

    chuckshontaspads says:
    Sep 22, 2016 11:08 AM
    This entire post screams cheater to all haters and 345 Park Ave. Dressing a guy who won’t play? No huddle to prevent substitutions, take another pick and suspend Brady two more games.

    ——————————————————————–

    So let me get this straight. They are cheaters if they actually break the rules. And they are cheaters if they don’t break any rules.

    Wow, that’s a tough cookie right there!

  18. tylawspick6 says: Sep 22, 2016 11:31 AM

    Goodell will make a rule after the game that says this:

    1. All teams must carry 3 QBs.
    2. No player not listed as a QB can play QB.

    LOL!

    $100 this happens if the Pats win.

    The refs will be trying to cheat the Pats tonight with the Goodell Flags.

    Just watch.

  19. spotsdad says: Sep 22, 2016 11:32 AM

    ReligionIsForIdiots says:
    Sep 22, 2016 11:18 AM
    He’s too soft to play. You better believe Carson Wentz would go out there, rally the men in the huddle and come out with the W.
    **********************************
    You are probably right. Belichick will trade him for a couple of 1st round picks as soon as Brady is back.

  20. pw1265 says: Sep 22, 2016 11:33 AM

    Yawn….
    Houston 23, Whiners 13

  21. Stiller43 says: Sep 22, 2016 11:34 AM

    345snarkavenue says:
    Sep 22, 2016 11:17 AM
    With the coach-to-quarterback communication cutting off at 15 seconds, a no-huddle approach would give the coaches extra time to help Brissett pick the best play based upon what they are seeing on the other side of the ball.
    ———–

    15 seconds is 15 seconds….isn’t it?

    I don’t quite understand how it “gives the coaches more time….”, however I do understand how they could adjust the utilization of that time to help Brissett.
    __________________________________

    He’s implying that they get to the line of scrimmage with 25+ seconds left so coaches can say “okay, based off what they are doing right now, do *this*” – instead of having him doing all that deciphering himself.

  22. grogantomorgan says: Sep 22, 2016 11:37 AM

    Tom Curran … sounds more incredible than credible. Don’t be surprised if Jimmy G. is slinging it.

  23. jchipwood says: Sep 22, 2016 11:37 AM

    tylawspick6 says:
    Sep 22, 2016 11:08 AM
    This SHOULD be a game where BB digs into the back side of the playbook, including the Wildcat/Run Based Chapter as well.

    Mainly, the idea that the entire Texans staff knows BB so well AND the idea it might make sense to be creative, Edelman in motion a lot or yes, even at QB in spots.
    _______________________________________
    patriot fans…….lol

  24. LyinRogerMustGo says: Sep 22, 2016 11:38 AM

    chuckshontaspads says:
    This entire post screams cheater to all haters and 345 Park Ave. Dressing a guy who won’t play? No huddle to prevent substitutions, take another pick and suspend Brady two more games.


    Oh yes…we know something like this is being discussed. It’s a fact that there are several teams who simply aren’t man enough to put in the work and effort to compete with the 4 time World Champions, that is a stone cold fact, irrefutable, undeniable and beyond dispute. When they see the Patriots aren’t missing a beat… I expect a few extremely desperate phone calls to #LyinRoger and his stooges.

    And Patriot Hater cries like little wussies when we Patriot Fans are in their grills laughing at them and their inferior teams. Imagine that.🙂

  25. patsrule59 says: Sep 22, 2016 11:39 AM

    “Yawn….Houston 23, Whiners 13”

    – – – – – – – – – – – – – – – – – – – – – – – – – – – – – – – –

    Great. And if that happens, perhaps the Texans should celebrate their big victory over a 3rd string QB by breaking out those cool lettermen jackets again.

    lol

  26. hehateme2 says: Sep 22, 2016 11:40 AM

    Another poser in that ugly flying Elvis getup.

  27. LyinRogerMustGo says: Sep 22, 2016 11:41 AM

    jchipwood says:
    Sep 22, 2016 11:37 AM
    tylawspick6 says:
    Sep 22, 2016 11:08 AM
    This SHOULD be a game where BB digs into the back side of the playbook, including the Wildcat/Run Based Chapter as well.

    Mainly, the idea that the entire Texans staff knows BB so well AND the idea it might make sense to be creative, Edelman in motion a lot or yes, even at QB in spots.
    _______________________________________
    patriot fans…….lol

    —-

    Hellooooo down there in the cold dark AFC East basement🙂 The last place dolphins must be getting cold by now.🙂 Brrrrrr

  28. bullcharger says: Sep 22, 2016 11:41 AM

    One thing I know, is that whatever Bill chooses to do, it will not be what is predicted here and it will be surprising.

  29. spotsdad says: Sep 22, 2016 11:42 AM

    By Good ole Roger suspending Brady, he increased Jimmy G’s trade value enormously. Now for part 2, Getting a 1st rounder outta Brissett with only 2 NFL starts. It’ll be tough, but that’s what the Browns are for.

  30. valentino8100 says: Sep 22, 2016 11:42 AM

    black59razorblog says:
    Sep 22, 2016 11:03 AM

    Go Texans, Go Brock! Sincerely, #BroncosCountry

    ———————————————–

    You have good reason to fear.

    #TB12 Revenge Tour 2.0 – #ComingSoon

  31. 345snarkavenue says: Sep 22, 2016 11:43 AM

    Stiller43 says:
    Sep 22, 2016 11:34 AM

    He’s implying that they get to the line of scrimmage with 25+ seconds left so coaches can say “okay, based off what they are doing right now, do *this*” – instead of having him doing all that deciphering himself
    ——-

    in other words, it’s adjusting the utilization of the time, just like I said. They don’t have any more time, they’re just using that time differently than they otherwise might.

  32. lifetimefan says: Sep 22, 2016 11:46 AM

    This may work out well for the Pats.

    Had JG remained healthy we never would have seen what JB can do. Having said that if JB shows he can be a starting QB it will allow the Pats to trade JG to the highest bidder.

    Since JG’s contract is up after next season and JB is signed through 2020 I believe it also may provide the Pats with a little more flexibility about keeping Brady a little longer.

  33. bullcharger says: Sep 22, 2016 11:47 AM

    We are talking about the Houston Texans. They could lose a road game against Jacksonville or Cleveland. Does anyone trust them?

    Even if I wasn’t a Patriots fan I would bet the Patriots to win at home all day until I actually witness Houston play like a team that can win in the playoffs.

  34. 345snarkavenue says: Sep 22, 2016 11:50 AM

    preview of tomorrow’s Patriot Hater posts:

    If Brissett has a good game: “This is proof Brady is not great because anybody can be successful in that system. Brady wouldn’t be able to win without Belichick”

    If Brissett has a bad game: “This is proof that Brady is one of the great, if not the greatest, QBs of all time and that Belichick can’t win without him”

  35. flash1287 says: Sep 22, 2016 11:51 AM

    jchipwood

    Dolphins fans…lol

    Hey little Chippy, were Wake, Suh and Williams all inactive last Sunday in NE?

    Just asking because they never showed up.

    Dolphins 0-2…lol

  36. bonitalocal says: Sep 22, 2016 11:57 AM

    Chippy!

    We can all smell your jealousy from a mile away!

    How are your Dolphins doing? Have they recovered from the beating that the Pats’ JV team put on them?

    Keep that head up ole Chipster, perhaps the Dolphins will find a way to win against the Browns!

  37. j0esixpack says: Sep 22, 2016 11:59 AM

    Doesn’t matter

    The Hatriots fans tell me that the Patriots and Belichick have a system – and that Brady, Garoppolo and Bissette are all just “systems QBs”

    Hmm – if this is all so simple and just requires plugging any QB into a system, I just have one question

    Why aren’t the Hatriots fan teams using that system?

    (cue “because they cheat” comments – *sigh* I just generally accept that the Patriots will always be considered “guilty” by those who don’t believe in the Laws of Physics)

  38. dejc421 says: Sep 22, 2016 11:59 AM

    I wouldn’t be surprised if BB lets Brissett air it out as opposed to the anticipated conservative approach, what’s to lose, Pats aren’t the favorites … all the pressure is on the Texans and they will be embarrassed if they lose to a rookie 3rd string QB, Looking forward to this game.

  39. carloswlassiter says: Sep 22, 2016 12:01 PM

    Is there a GM in the league who would take Trevor Siemian over Jacoby Brissett?

    The kid can play, as he’ll demonstrate tonight in a 10 point win.

  40. 6ball says: Sep 22, 2016 12:02 PM

    .
    Let’s face facts. Nobody knows what’s going to happen in tonight’s game. That includes Florio, Peter King, Rodney, Phil Sims and even Pete Carroll. The unknowns vastly outnumber the knowns.
    .

  41. tylawspick6 says: Sep 22, 2016 12:03 PM

    Sheriff Goebbels lies and frames Brady, then triggering a 1st rd pick back in the direction of the Pats, so they can reclaim what is rightfully theirs.

    In 2017, NE will have 2 1st rd picks and BB will own that draft, too.

    LOL

    Nice going, Goebbels.

    We know, Rogie. We know.

    We anxiously await the next lie or cover up of a player or team that is known to challenge the Pats.

  42. winged warrior says: Sep 22, 2016 12:06 PM

    345snarkavenue says:
    Sep 22, 2016 11:23 AM
    by the way, according to a RI surgeon AC joint sprains are graded from 1 to 6, with 6 being the worst.
    ……………………………………………………………………………..
    he’s at 2 ,so, if that’s the case then he’ll play , after an injection . ‘if you can walk you can play’ ( he’s got all season to heal up )… 😉

  43. harrisonhits2 says: Sep 22, 2016 12:11 PM

    Oh leave poor Chippy alone. Every year by the time 2 or 3 games have been played the Fins season is effectively over and the one and only joy he can get from the nfl season is posting foolish comments about the Pats.

    Its hard to be a bottom feeder, you have to give them a little leeway.

  44. patriotsweb says: Sep 22, 2016 12:23 PM

    Good time to be a Bostonian!!! Patriots rolling, Red Sox rolling, Celtics excited.

    Patriots no Gronk, no Brady, no Ninkovich and other fans already frustrated. It is good to have the best coach, best QB, best tight end, best slot receiver, and best all around team and now serious backup options and trade options. One way or the other, this will work out great for Pats. Goodell must hate it…other fans hate it…we are confident and loving it.

    Let the Brady pass-a-thon start in 2 weeks!

    Sorry Fans but it is freaking great to be a Bostonian!!!!!

  45. MiamiDolphinsNation says: Sep 22, 2016 12:26 PM

    2-2 when Shady gets back, then a win over the Browns followed by back to back losses to the Bengals and Steelers.
    I guess that imaginary perfect season will escape once again.lol

  46. dsigrey says: Sep 22, 2016 12:28 PM

    Look for Gronk and Bennett to do a ton of blocking while the Pats run the ball down the Texans throats. Then some play action and a big win for the rookie.

  47. chippys lost binky says: Sep 22, 2016 12:29 PM

    jchipwood says:
    Sep 22, 2016 11:37 AM
    Patriot fans…….lol
    ++++++++++++++

    Not unusual for a basement to get musty but only in the AFCE is it also salty.

  48. dsigrey says: Sep 22, 2016 12:31 PM

    MiamiDolphinsNation says:
    Sep 22, 2016 12:26 PM
    2-2 when Shady gets back, then a win over the Browns followed by back to back losses to the Bengals and Steelers.
    I guess that imaginary perfect season will escape once again.lol
    _______________________

    Funny, delusional but funny…

  49. patsfan4lifesbchamps says: Sep 22, 2016 12:33 PM

    Whether it’s Garoppolo or Brissette or Brady or a high school QB, Belichick will put them in the best position to win games. All the QB has to do is play within the system, execute plays given to them by the greatest minds in football and they will have success. A QB is just a cog in this great system.

  50. TheCakeIsALie says: Sep 22, 2016 12:36 PM

    Reason #114 I feel privileged to be a Pats fan:

    The common narrative of the losing teams is “you can’t win without a top 10 quarterback”. No, it’s more like you can’t win with a lazy organization. Belichick has arguably the greatest QB in history, yet his team is deep enough to play a 3rd string QB and possibly deep enough to win with his defense alone.

    Keep looking for the “secret cheating” that magically produces 12 wins a season though.

    Feels good.

  51. chesswhileyouplaycheckers says: Sep 22, 2016 12:38 PM

    MiamiDolphinsNation says:
    Sep 22, 2016 12:26 PM
    2-2 when Shady gets back, then a win over the Browns followed by back to back losses to the Bengals and Steelers.
    I guess that imaginary perfect season will escape once again.lol
    ——————————

    Ah chippy, we enjoy your predictions. First you had the Pats at 0-4 getting blown out by AZ, Then it was 1-3 with miami winning 24-13. Now it’s 2-2 headed for 3-4. Guess the only thing that isn’t consistent is you don’t have NE getting blown out by the Browns. Odds are against any team going 16-0 but your guys are still tracking for 0-16 so there’s that.

    What other team would be facing a division leading playoff team while starting a 3rd string rookie QB and be a pick against the spread? Vegas respects the Pats, even if miami does not.

  52. artvan15 says: Sep 22, 2016 12:38 PM

    Could the Patriots win with their practice squad?

  53. LyinRogerMustGo says: Sep 22, 2016 12:40 PM

    The undefeated and 4 time World Champion Patriots, winners of more Super Bowls in the last 25 years than any NFL team, winners of more games this century than any NFL team, home of the GOAT QB, GOAT coach, the greatest fanbase in football as proven by a recent study, the undisputed paragon of excellence in the modern NFL and if we are being totally and completely honest, the paragon of excellence in any sport at any time… they sure have an embarrassment of riches at the QB position don’t they?

    The best 4 QBs in the AFC East: Brady, Garoppolo, Brissett and Edelman.🙂

    My my.🙂 Its almost unfair ain’t it?
    🙂

  54. blessedunliketherest says: Sep 22, 2016 12:46 PM

    He’s too soft to play. You better believe Carson Wentz would go out there, rally the men in the huddle and come out with the W.
    __________________________________________

    The Eagles have beaten the Browns and the Bears. Two of the worst teams in the league. Let’s be honest…..Philly will do what they always do, implode. Wentz may be a good QB, but let’s back that horse up a bit. It’s been 2 games.

  55. LyinRogerMustGo says: Sep 22, 2016 12:46 PM

    You got the Patriots, and the good teams and the poor teams. Then there’s 50 feet of crap…. and then there’s the Dolphins
    — Billy Beane
    🙂

  56. lscottman3 says: Sep 22, 2016 12:47 PM

    Walt Coleman is the referee for the Thursday night game between the Texans and the Patriots.

    somethings just work out right…

  57. flash1287 says: Sep 22, 2016 12:47 PM

    patsfan4lifesbchamps says:
    Sep 22, 2016 12:33 PM
    Whether it’s Garoppolo or Brissette or Brady or a high school QB, Belichick will put them in the best position to win games. All the QB has to do is play within the system, execute plays given to them by the greatest minds in football and they will have success. A QB is just a cog in this great system.

    Gotta love the fake Patriots fan with his subtle shot at Brady.

  58. lscottman3 says: Sep 22, 2016 12:56 PM

    Tom E. Curran should have added:

    An athlete with a grade 1 injury of the AC joint will experience tenderness and discomfort palpation and movement of the joint. Grade 1 sprains involve only partial damage to the joint capsule and the AC ligament. Return to play – up to 3 weeks.

    grade 2 injury will involve complete rupture of the acromioclavicular ligament and partial tear of the coracoclavicular ligament. This tearing allows the clavicle to move upward, and as a result the bump on the shoulder is more pronounced. Pain is more severe and movement of the shoulder is restricted.
    Return to play – minimum 4-6 weeks.

    we will know soon enough

  59. chieftaindawg says: Sep 22, 2016 12:56 PM

    As a pats fan, it’s ok if they are 2-1, non divisional game, and jimmy got whacked.
    But you can never count out the Pats with Belichick as coach.

  60. theebadguy says: Sep 22, 2016 1:16 PM

    Extremely painful injury. He’s probably miserable trying to sleep at night

  61. swagger52 says: Sep 22, 2016 1:18 PM

    NE will lose this game. However, it doesn’t matter they play in the AFC East. They could win that division with just any QB – which is pretty much what the rest of that division has.

  62. swagger52 says: Sep 22, 2016 1:19 PM

    Walt “Tuck” Coleman is reffing tonight. Wink Wink

  63. jackedupboonie says: Sep 22, 2016 1:21 PM

    the Seahawks will not care about backup Jimmy come Super Bowl 51.

  64. theharshestreality says: Sep 22, 2016 1:22 PM

    I wonder how many draft picks the Pat’s will get when they trade Garoppolo after the season concludes. At least a first and a third. No one moves guys better (and faster) than the Pat’s do for value.

  65. granadafan says: Sep 22, 2016 1:43 PM

    Tough luck for Jimmy. This was his one big showcase as Brady is out and now he gets a nasty injury. Hope he can bounce back.

  66. mmack66 says: Sep 22, 2016 1:46 PM

    Hey Walt, did you grab the footballs when we left the Dew Drop Inn?

    I thought you were going to grab them.

  67. fishyinalittledishy says: Sep 22, 2016 2:37 PM

    Good job the Patriots have a pretty good back up coming back soon. And that’s the second QB the Dolphins D have put the hurt on in two weeks to help the next team up. Pity they didn’t show up until it was to late which seems to be the norm with this bunch. Say what you like about Tannehill and his QB credentials but the guy gets smashed 7 or 8 times a game since he came into the league always gets up I wonder how much more he can take. Jimmy G gets a couple of starts and already is going to miss time. Some players just know how to protect themselves and have that little bit of luck.

  68. swagger52 says: Sep 22, 2016 3:42 PM

    Walt Coleman is always brought in to “tuck” games away for young Patriot QBs. That is how Walt introduced Brady, which nobody knew before then.

  69. joko12blog says: Sep 22, 2016 3:59 PM

    4 rings

  70. tylawspick6 says: Sep 22, 2016 4:16 PM

    The Tuck rule worked against the Pats earlier in the 2001 season and no one said a word, so enough with the pathetic Millennial whining.

    ALso, fat Zack Crockett could not get a 1st down to ice the game on 2nd and 3 and 3rd and 1.

    Case closed.

    The better TEAM won.

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