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Through three games, Patriots have played kickoff rule perfectly

FOXBORO, MA - SEPTEMBER 22:  Head coach Bill Belichick of the New England Patriots looks on before the game against the Houston Texans at Gillette Stadium on September 22, 2016 in Foxboro, Massachusetts.  (Photo by Maddie Meyer/Getty Images) Getty Images

The Patriots have played three games and kicked off 18 times this season, and they’ve still yet to allow an opposing team to take the ball out past the 25 yard line.

So far, Patriots kicker Stephen Gostkowski has had 10 touchbacks. Of the eight kicks that opposing teams returned, six times the Patriots’ coverage unit tackled the returner inside the 25-yard line, and twice the Patriots’ coverage unit forced and recovered a fumble. In the NFL under the new rule, a good return is any return that gets past the 25-yard line. No Patriots opponent has had a good return yet.

Patriots coach Bill Belichick has been at the forefront of exploiting the new rule moving touchbacks after kickoffs to the 25-yard line. Belichick knows that there’s a benefit to kicking the ball high and short, and Gostkowski executes it well.

“Our kickoff guys are doing a great job. It would be dumb just to kick it out of the end zone every time right now,” Gostkowski told USA Today.

And it was dumb of the NFL to change the rule without thinking through the consequences. Far from reducing the number of kickoff returns, the rule has increased the number of kickoff returns. And when the Patriots are kicking, most of those returns are short.

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87 Responses to “Through three games, Patriots have played kickoff rule perfectly”
  1. sportmigos says: Sep 23, 2016 8:41 AM

    literaly unbelievable their kicker isn’t suspended yet smh cheating again.

  2. LyinRogerMustGo says: Sep 23, 2016 8:43 AM

    The undefeated and 4 time World Champions are smarter than the rest of the league? You don’t say.🙂

  3. pauldeba says: Sep 23, 2016 8:45 AM

    “And it was dumb of the NFL to change the rule without thinking through the consequences.”

    Hmm, who would have ultimately been responsible for such a dumb thing? ahh, now it makes perfect sense

  4. carloswlassiter says: Sep 23, 2016 8:46 AM

    Chess vs Checkers.

  5. tricky020 says: Sep 23, 2016 8:47 AM

    While the rest of NFL coaches are playing checkers, Bill Belichick is playing chess.

  6. crush22 says: Sep 23, 2016 8:50 AM

    Patsies*

  7. patsxsaintsfan says: Sep 23, 2016 8:51 AM

    Patriots are dominating on all 3 phases right now. One of the best kickers in the NFL with slater ebner Cyrus jones and even Mingo playing well on special teams. The defense has 2 top 15 corners and 2 great safeties in Chung and McCourty and Harmon has been sneaky good throughout his career with Chris long and sheard forming a solid pass rush and that’s without ninkovinch. The offense has 4 good receivers and 2 amazing TE and it’s only going to get better when Brady comes back. No team in football is more complete.

  8. shomershabbos says: Sep 23, 2016 8:51 AM

    Hoodie>>>>>Goodell

  9. lscottman3 says: Sep 23, 2016 8:53 AM

    this is why Belichick should be on the competition committee.

    instead of:

    Ozzie Newsome (general manager, Baltimore Ravens)
    Rick Smith (general manager, Houston Texans)
    Marvin Lewis (head coach, Cincinnati Bengals)
    Mike Tomlin (head coach, Pittsburgh Steelers)

    ridiculous to think anyone of these guys knows more about football than Bill.

  10. manipuraram says: Sep 23, 2016 8:54 AM

    Belichexk is just smarter than every other coach in the NFL. And I am a Rams fan

  11. celticsforever says: Sep 23, 2016 8:54 AM

    Based on this stay alone Goodell will be changing the rule again next year. It’s like watching a monkey throw darts and expect a logical outcome. Tom Brady is generally aware that the former ny jets intern is a joke. How anyone could overtake Gary Bettman as the worst commissioner in sports is astounding and takes a special degree of talent all of its own.

  12. lonespeed says: Sep 23, 2016 8:56 AM

    Someone needs to find a reason to suspend Stephen Gostkowski. This is unfair for the rest of the league.

  13. jasons81 says: Sep 23, 2016 8:56 AM

    Now Goodell will be seizing draft picks, fining the team and Belichick, and suspending Gostkowski for 4 games

  14. Patskrieg says: Sep 23, 2016 8:57 AM

    This must be like that time (as Outside the Lines reported) Marshall Faulk returned a couple punts in the Super Bowl…. and then the Patriots covered the punts and then Faulk didn’t have a good return so it means they cheated.

  15. war27 says: Sep 23, 2016 8:57 AM

    Many other teams have also.

  16. irishpatsfan says: Sep 23, 2016 8:58 AM

    just waiting for the cheating remarks !!!!!!

  17. 12coltsfan12 says: Sep 23, 2016 9:01 AM

    Patriots…Perfect…wtf😥

    And they have basically an extra All Pro team coming back to a 4-0 team…
    -Brady
    -Gronk
    -Dion Lewis
    -Hightower
    -Ninkovich

    wtf😥

  18. emcgeehan says: Sep 23, 2016 9:03 AM

    “Hey, I just remembered Gostkowski never gave me his phone! Can we suspend him retroactively?”

    -Goodell

  19. ricko1112 says: Sep 23, 2016 9:06 AM

    When this rule was announced, Belichick told everyone this is what would happen. Goodell scoffed at that notion. Once again Bill schooled Roger on facts and integrity.

  20. chesswhileyouplaycheckers says: Sep 23, 2016 9:07 AM

    “Patriots coach Bill Belichick has been at the forefront of exploiting the new rule”

    Makes it sound like there is something to be exploited in the rule and nothing could be further from the truth. What exactly is being exploited? Any intelligent coach with good ST’s is not going to give up 5 yards gladly. When they are up 3 scores and a return might get an opponent back into it they might choose the touchback or facing a dangerous returner but other than that when their coverage team is better than the opposing return team it’s a no brainer.

  21. I_Just_Like_Typing_Comments_That_Wont_Get_Published says: Sep 23, 2016 9:07 AM

    lscottman3 says:
    Sep 23, 2016 8:53 AM

    this is why Belichick should be on the competition committee.

    instead of:

    Ozzie Newsome (general manager, Baltimore Ravens)
    Rick Smith (general manager, Houston Texans)
    Marvin Lewis (head coach, Cincinnati Bengals)
    Mike Tomlin (head coach, Pittsburgh Steelers)

    ridiculous to think anyone of these guys knows more about football than Bill.
    =========================

    Though I agree, I think Belichick would have no interest. First, I feel like he would laugh if they asked him to sacrifice his own time/preparation time to join a group of d-bags that are gonna act like they know more than he does. Second, I think Bill loves knowing that when these morons create a rule, he is gonna be the first guy smart enough to make them regret it. Third, people who create rules (in the NFL anyways) are often left with their pants down when a guy like Belichick exploits them, and Belichick is not going to open himself up to that…

  22. truthprofessor says: Sep 23, 2016 9:10 AM

    “suspend Gostkowski for 4 games”
    —-
    Then Edelman probably kicks off, with the same result.

    #excellence

  23. patsfan1820 says: Sep 23, 2016 9:12 AM

    Every time the NFL tries to change the rules the Pats find a way to make them work to their advantage. Gotta love Bill Belichick and his football intelligence there’s no smarter coach in the league than him.

  24. infectorman says: Sep 23, 2016 9:17 AM

    @crush22

    ^
    |
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    Crybaby

  25. tigerlilac says: Sep 23, 2016 9:18 AM

    Without thinking I made plans to go to the Red Sox Orioles game at Camden Yards last night. Thankfully, I got to follow the Patriots game on my iphone. The Orioles fans couldn’t have been nicer, despite the Sox looking to sweep and win the division. I sat next to a young Baltimore fan (and his Dad) who asked me the score of the Pats game. At that point it was 20-0. He was smiling throughout the game even with the Sox in the lead but the news of the Patriots leading the Texans 20-0 left him speechless. I don’t feel bad for the haters on PFT but I felt bad for this kid.

    Maybe if the adults, like Goodell and Woody Johnson, appreciated the Patriots, and Belichick’s ability to work the nuances of the game to his advantage, the young fans could appreciate the game more than focusing on who wins and loses from a parochial perspective.

    Greatness should be admired and modeled, not mocked and sabotaged.

  26. 1historian says: Sep 23, 2016 9:20 AM

    “Heh heh” – Bill Belichik

    “Heh heh” – Pats fans (like moi)

    “!@#$%^&*()_+!!” – Frustrated fans of other teams who can’t help but admire Belichik

    “DUHHHH!!!!” – Haters

    Heh heh

    Belichik plays 4th dimensional chess.

  27. Mo Pro Babble says: Sep 23, 2016 9:20 AM

    time for haternation to queue up Smokey Robinson

    tears of a clown

  28. bleedingfacemask says: Sep 23, 2016 9:24 AM

    Blandino: “This is a significant rule change. Do you think Belichick will be able to exploit it?
    Goodell: “No”
    Belichick: “Challenge accepted.”

  29. tigerlilac says: Sep 23, 2016 9:25 AM

    Exploit is a verb meaning to make full use of and derive benefit from a resource or opportunity. It is not a pejorative unless the viewer imposes values on the action.

    There is nothing wrong with the writer saying Belichick has exploited the new kickoff rule better than any other coach. What is wrong is the perspective that doing so is inherently unfair.

    The overwhelming evidence is that the Patriots win because they work harder, prepare better, and execute on game day. The contrarian view just adds to their motivation.

  30. lifetimefan says: Sep 23, 2016 9:25 AM

    Harbawl says it’s deception and wants the rule changed. In the meantime he will try too get his kicker more proficient and call it something else so he can use it.

  31. stoopidfool says: Sep 23, 2016 9:26 AM

    c’mon, you idiots………accuse the Pats of cheating some more……..how has it worked out for you so far?

    jealous little pieces of poop

  32. lunar2013 says: Sep 23, 2016 9:26 AM

    Um, this article and all the comments make it seem like that Pats only take advantage of the new rule. All the teams have taken advantage of it! Some teams just have better kickers than others to make it work properly more often.

  33. tattooit says: Sep 23, 2016 9:28 AM

    I remember when this rule was first announced, Belichick went on record as saying it would be the opposite of the intended consequence, and actually increase kickoff returns.

    This is where years of showing a strong commitment to building an elite special teams unit comes home to roost.

    The gap in coaching between New England and everyone else is almost not fair.

    Without Coughlin, my Giants don’t even stand a chance.

  34. docsmith54 says: Sep 23, 2016 9:30 AM

    I may check the rulebook for the gas used to inflate the kicking ball. At equal pressure, a helium-filled ball is lighter and is thus more buoyant than an air-filled ball. That explains last night’s high kickoffs and very long fall-to-earth times that coverage teams love. Haters, read on.

    Belichick should be on the lack-of-competition committee – as the only member. Wait, he already is!

  35. spartan01 says: Sep 23, 2016 9:30 AM

    Funny to hear people attribute this to the genius of BB. It’s the quality of the kicker that allows this to happen. There is no coaching genius in this move.

  36. weepingjebus says: Sep 23, 2016 9:31 AM

    I am no Belichick but this outcome seemed obvious as soon as I read the rule. The larger point is how many league officials associated with the competition committee know nothing about football. We call it the Blandino Identity, about a guy with no memory that goes around assassinating logic.

  37. chippys lost binky says: Sep 23, 2016 9:34 AM

    I do believe Belichick is the greatest coach of the SB era but when it comes to this how is he any different from any coach with a good coverage team? No coach wants to give up the 5 yards unless he is more concerned with what the returner might do. It’s football 101, at the 25 the ball is 5 yards closer to being in scoring position.
    Only the owners and 345 Park Ave did not see this coming. Unless of course they did and actually wanted to see more of one of the games most exciting plays and the more we think about it…

  38. rootpain says: Sep 23, 2016 9:34 AM

    Interesting choice of the word exploit, Michael. Was it intended?

    One definition is to use something that is available, which is what the Patriots (and other teams although there are no clicks to be gotten by headlining the other teams in this article) are doing. Another acceptable definition is to use something unfairly, which is not what the Patriots are doing. But try and convince the haters of that.

    I for one am happy Belichick is thick skinned. Can you imagine the pressure he would feel otherwise, listening to all these grandmothers complaining the Belichick is taking advantage of their poor little babies.

    Goodell on the other hand. Well enough said about him.

  39. ineptguy8 says: Sep 23, 2016 9:34 AM

    Belichick may actually be a genius, and good for the Patriots for exploiting this rule change, but acting like it took some sort of mastermind to figure this out is ridiculous. As soon as the rule changed, there were people on this very site saying this would happen. What is more amazing is that other coaches and teams are too stupid to figure it out or even just copy it after 2 weeks.

  40. senxic says: Sep 23, 2016 9:39 AM

    I may not like the Pats, but BB is undeniably the best coach we have seen in a very long time.

    We can label him a cheater all day long, but the fact of the matter is we all cut corners. It happens every day, in just about any job. However small the edge, we give it to ourselves to give us better chances.

    So is he a cheater, or is he just smarter than most?

  41. johngaltwho says: Sep 23, 2016 9:43 AM

    I really did not give Belichick enough credit. I genuinely thought if it wasnt for Brady, Belichick would be nothing special. He really is just smarter than the rest. Crazy how he well he can prepare a team to play under challenging circumstances.

  42. russrpm says: Sep 23, 2016 9:48 AM

    The Patriots have probably been the best at forcing the return, but in most other games I have watched, the returners are catching the ball 1 or 2 yards into the end zone, bringing it out, and getting tackled inside the 20. They don’t seem to understand the value of those extra 5 yards they gain by just kneeling down. Coaching.

  43. maximusprime107 says: Sep 23, 2016 9:49 AM

    While yes, they’ve done really well when they’ve had a return against them, I wouldn’t stay that they’ve played it perfectly if they have had 10 touchbacks meaning the opponent gets the ball at the 25. Perfect would be they haven’t had an opposing team start from the 25 period.

  44. rams41 says: Sep 23, 2016 9:56 AM

    It has taken me a while to finally admit that Belichek is a football genius and the reason the Pats consistently outperforms the competition despite losing players, changing rules, and NFL folly.
    As a (former) Rams fan, the Super Bowl loss was the start of a long painful decline of the Rams. But I blame that on the Rams not the Pats.

  45. churchofthehoody says: Sep 23, 2016 9:57 AM

    Belichick may actually be a genius, and good for the Patriots for exploiting this rule change, but acting like it took some sort of mastermind to figure this out is ridiculous.

    ___________________________________

    You’re right of course, however, the difference is in execution… How many teams are well coached enough not just to spot the advantage the rule change presents but actually exploit it?

    The genius isn’t in the obvious, it’s in the execution.

  46. tigerlilac says: Sep 23, 2016 9:57 AM

    One can say that everyone takes advantage of the new rule but the rules of probability betray that false equivalency. I continually see players risking lost yardage (anything net of the 25), a turnover, or a penalty by returning kicks into the end zone.

    The upside of taking a kick out is very low that a team will advance the ball past the 25 yard line. Obviously, if a team is down, and needs a score late in the game it merits taking such risks not early in the game which I see constantly.

  47. streetyson says: Sep 23, 2016 9:59 AM

    Belichick, Sean Payton, Vinatieri, Gostowski…. a few other important big names (snd several others) said that the new rule would increase returns because teams would more likely try to kick high to the 5yd line than through the end zone. And first few weeks stats now bear that out.

    The thing is, the competition committee is SUPPOSED to canvas exactly these sorts of top-relevant guys’ opinions in such related rule-changes. But frankly, I’m not surprised that the dufus coaches currently on the committee either didn’t canvas or thought they knew better.

  48. tigerlilac says: Sep 23, 2016 9:59 AM

    maximusprime107 says:
    Sep 23, 2016 9:49 AM
    While yes, they’ve done really well when they’ve had a return against them, I wouldn’t stay that they’ve played it perfectly if they have had 10 touchbacks meaning the opponent gets the ball at the 25. Perfect would be they haven’t had an opposing team start from the 25 period.

    —————-

    You are correct but the Patriots meet the “Mary Poppins” definition, “practically perfect”.

  49. justintuckrule says: Sep 23, 2016 10:00 AM

    The pats are hard to root for except when they give the bird to goodell.

  50. parilli15 says: Sep 23, 2016 10:00 AM

    The Not-too-bright Football League should of looked at its own stats before changing the rule. In 2015 only 8 of the 32 teams averaged better than 25 yards per kickoff return. (And some of that includes yards coming out of the end zone.) But more than half of the teams averaged better than 20 yards on returns. So under the old rules it made more sense to kick the ball through the end zone and let the other team just start on the 20. Now it doesn’t make sense to put the ball on the 25. Risk vs. reward. It shouldn’t take a Belichick to figure that out.

  51. rportkid says: Sep 23, 2016 10:02 AM

    Calling the NFL buffoons “dumb” is being very kind. The most incompetent, most corrupt organization in sports history.

  52. campcre3k says: Sep 23, 2016 10:15 AM

    Can Bill win the MVP award also?

  53. harrisonhits2 says: Sep 23, 2016 10:18 AM

    “literaly unbelievable their kicker isn’t suspended yet smh cheating again.”

    Exactly how are they “cheating”

    Nowhere in the rule does it say you can’t kick it short of the end zone

    Its the insanity of the Pats hater that declares they are “cheating” when they are doing nothing outside the rules.

    Hard work, intelligence, preparation and success used to be respected in this country. Numerous former Pats players that have been with other teams before and or after their time with the Pats have made it clear they are the hardest working team in the league.

    Now people like you who are either incapacle of or too lazy to work hard consider it somehow “cheating”

  54. streetyson says: Sep 23, 2016 10:19 AM

    maximusprime107 says:
    Sep 23, 2016 9:49 AM
    While yes, they’ve done really well when they’ve had a return against them, I wouldn’t stay that they’ve played it perfectly if they have had 10 touchbacks meaning the opponent gets the ball at the 25. Perfect would be they haven’t had an opposing team start from the 25 period.
    ———————
    No, by perfect they mean when the Pats have exploited the rule by kicking short rather than a touchback, their opponents haven’t got to the 25yd line or beyond. No team has started from BEYOND the 25yd line after a Pats kickoff – hence Pats ARE perfect in these regards.

  55. Mo Pro Babble says: Sep 23, 2016 10:36 AM

    Report comment

    johngaltwho says:
    Sep 23, 2016 9:43 AM

    I really did not give Belichick enough credit. I genuinely thought if it wasnt for Brady, Belichick would be nothing special. He really is just smarter than the rest. Crazy how he well he can prepare a team to play under challenging circumstances


    Like most things in life this is not mutually exclusive. Like most dynasties, this is a special recipe that works for a variety of reasons. BB TB are both great, so stop trying to use one or the other to either justify or denigrate the success.

  56. PriorKnowledge says: Sep 23, 2016 10:39 AM

    tigerlilac says:
    Sep 23, 2016 9:18 AM
    …..
    Greatness should be admired and modeled, not mocked and sabotaged.

    Most profound comment on PFT I’ve ever seen

  57. superpatriotsfan says: Sep 23, 2016 10:42 AM

    ITT: Pats homers circle jerk. Nothing to do in NE except troll PFT message boards.

  58. PriorKnowledge says: Sep 23, 2016 10:48 AM

    Ummm, “harrisonhits2 says:
    Sep 23, 2016 10:18 AM”, I am holding up the sarcasm sign.

  59. robadat says: Sep 23, 2016 10:53 AM

    There were many who were against this rule from the get-go for precisely that reason. The current comp committee isn’t made up of the most competitive coaches in the league, maybe it’s time to change it. Maybe take the top 4 coaches (Conference Championship game coaches) from the year before and make them the committee.

    This doesn’t make BB any smarter than the throngs who were against the rules. He just happens to have the personnel on STs to exploit it. NE is not the only team trying to do this. If the Pats have few returns that get out past the thirty, you can bet they’ll change strategy and start kicking it out of the end zone…

    This particular stat only shows the Pats early comp so far has not coached their players properly to take advantage of the new kick rule. Makes more sense to just down the ball in the end zone and take it at the 25 instead of trying to run one out from a yard or two into the end zone.

  60. 345snarkavenue says: Sep 23, 2016 10:54 AM

    I’m surprised that some bozo hasn’t piped in with something like “this proves Brady is a system QB”.

    whatever…..it’s Great being a Patriots fan, and has been for a long time.

  61. footballfanatic says: Sep 23, 2016 10:55 AM

    Every team is doing this, please stop with the “bill is amazing” non sense. Next should we praise him b/c his players like to tackle people and he is the first coach on earth who tells his players to tackle?!?!?! Every team in the NFL is kicking it short- you get more height and the ball goes shorter so u have more time to get down there and tackle the guy. Its VERY simple, and every coach in the NFL before the season started said “well this new rule will only cause more harm, b/c we will kick it higher and shorter so they return it and get hit before the 20 yd line”.

  62. jchipwood says: Sep 23, 2016 10:59 AM

    truthprofessor says:
    Sep 23, 2016 9:10 AM
    “suspend Gostkowski for 4 games”
    —-
    Then Edelman probably kicks off, with the same result.

    #excellence
    ______________________________________

    Your right. If those guys are cheating in which the patriots have a history of which just happens to be during their most successful seasons as a franchise then yes they should be suspended.

  63. bassplucker says: Sep 23, 2016 11:03 AM

    No argument but it also doesn’t hurt when your opponent fumbles two kickoffs inside the 25.

  64. wensink18 says: Sep 23, 2016 11:03 AM

    I think the Pats success with the kicking game is somehow connected to the suspected bugs in the visiting locker room walls at Foxboro. Teams have admitted wasting energy and resources sweeping for these little devices, but have never, ever found a single one. But they exist… they must !!! Or perhaps its due to an alleged taping of a walkthrough before the Superbowl that also never happened. You’d be surprised as to how much “make believe ” stuff can affect the kicking game.

  65. joefakeraiderfantoronto says: Sep 23, 2016 11:15 AM

    This question is driving bat-crap insane, but WHY, I mean WHY doesn’t every head coach in the league just copy and do EXACTLY what Bellichick (sic) does?! From drafting to plays to practice and personnel. If I were an NFL head coach, I would simply do whatever he is doing. That is the only way to even have a chance.

  66. nhpats says: Sep 23, 2016 11:17 AM

    Its just too bad the Pats don’t get to play the Ravens this season so BB could school Harbaugh one more time. Why? Because the Ravens are playing a last place schedule…

  67. mmack66 says: Sep 23, 2016 11:17 AM

    superpatriotsfan says:
    Sep 23, 2016 10:42 AM

    ITT: Pats homers circle jerk. Nothing to do in NE except troll PFT message boards.
    ———————-

    Well, as superpatriotsfan, you should know.

  68. ipdaily69 says: Sep 23, 2016 11:22 AM

    Three components:
    1) Belichick has a deeper understanding of the game and thus can figure out how to exploit opportunities
    2) Belichick is a superior GM who can identify players who will implement his superior game plans
    3) Belichick teaches better than any other coach. His players are prepared for every situation and they always execute at a high level

  69. elvoid says: Sep 23, 2016 11:24 AM

    No need to have messed with the rule in the first place, but if they really want to limit kickoff returns:

    Let me say first I’m not suggesting this change because I think it’s also stupid, but it would accomplish their stated goal.

    1. Move the kicker back to 30 yardline (maybe even the 25)

    2. If the ball is kicked out of the endzone, the offense sets up at the 15 yardline.

    3. Once the return team controls the ball, they can either choose to return the kick OR take a knee right away at wherever it was caught (even if short of the endzone), and they set up at the 25.

    Like I said – I hate it, too – but it would probably accomplish what they set out to do.

    Having said that: Change it back, there was nothing wrong with it – and while you’re at it, make two feet down and one step with ball control a catch, period. And if a player is bobbling it while “going to the ground,” it’s a catch as long as he eventually controls it without the ball hitting the ground.

  70. jwcarlson says: Sep 23, 2016 11:30 AM

    I’m not a Patriots fan, but because of the storylines involved I watched a good portion of the game last night. What a butt kicking. I don’t know what Belichick’s secret is, but the guy seems like he can win a decent majority of games played with *whoever* he has under center.

    I jokingly said last night that they might be able to win without a quarterback all together.

    They’re going to roll out of Brady’s suspension NO WORSE than 3-1. Unbelievable. And a little bit frustrating as a Packer fan because it seems like Green Bay is perpetually stuck in this cycle wasting Rodgers’ prime years with a coach that can’t seem to get out of his own way most of the time.

    Not meant to be an over-reaction to a single game… but just neat to see greatness. Utmost respect for the Patriots, what they have done over the years is phenomenal both with and without Brady.

  71. mmack66 says: Sep 23, 2016 11:33 AM

    joefakeraiderfantoronto says:
    Sep 23, 2016 11:15 AM

    This question is driving bat-crap insane, but WHY, I mean WHY doesn’t every head coach in the league just copy and do EXACTLY what Bellichick (sic) does?!
    ——————————-

    Lack of drive, commitment, and a desire to win. That, and you often have an idiot for an owner, GM, and/or coach, which you don’t have at New England.

    A great quarterback is key as well, and there are only 5 or 6 of those around the league.

  72. RandyinRoxbury says: Sep 23, 2016 11:35 AM

    Can BB be enshrined in Canton now?
    Why wait?

  73. limakey says: Sep 23, 2016 11:42 AM

    IPD, where is are your number 4) and 5)?
    4) BB deep understanding of the game, he completely understands that the kick off is the most dangerous play game and he deeply understands that the rule was changed to try to make it safer for all players, on both sides.
    5) By exploiting this rule, Bill understands that he is putting a few yards over players’ safety.

    Sure, it is great coaching, until someone gets hurt. And when that happens, again, the NFL will be blamed and not the coache who pissed on player safety. That is the Patriot Way, blame everybody else.

  74. greenmtnboy31 says: Sep 23, 2016 11:51 AM

    The NFL did something dumb under Roger Goodell’s rule? No Sh!t.

  75. cosmicredneck81 says: Sep 23, 2016 11:53 AM

    I just can’t fathom why the patriots feel the need to cheat year in and year out obviously the kickoffs are well within the rules but it is obvious that they have the best coach of all time one of the best qbs ever and no matter what happens weather it’s guys going down to injury or whatever they just keep winning I wish my boys could have their consistency but seriously all u pats fans know they have a history of bending the rules u can deny it all u want but it’s true they just don’t need too

  76. mullman76 says: Sep 23, 2016 11:59 AM

    Patsies have a great system.

    Plug ‘n’ play.

    It has been that way for 15 years.

    Why the patsy fans get all worked up over this is beyond me.

    They have rings, they win every week and the fanbase still manages to be completely paranoid and intolerable.

    Carry on chowds, I love your act.

  77. rideforjesus says: Sep 23, 2016 12:00 PM

    Love it…….the haters can’t come up with anything… I would hate to show up at work today as a Texan’s fan and have nothing but crap to say about my team and how they were man handled last night….come to think of it isn’t that want creates a patriots hater??

    Us kicking their teams butt???

    hate away…..

    hate…. hate…. hate….
    We are great…….
    fact…..

  78. renocarolina says: Sep 23, 2016 12:13 PM

    What I learned today:

    Headline says Pats have played new rule “Perfectly”

    Gostkowski says it is “Dumb” to kick it out of the endzone

    Gostkowski kicks it out of the endzone 10 times out of 18.

  79. mullman76 says: Sep 23, 2016 12:25 PM

    What would Jesus say about your piss poor attitude?

    You confuse “hate” with indifference.

    I just check in for the comedy routines…whining patsy fans.

  80. jag1959 says: Sep 23, 2016 12:25 PM

    superpatriotsfan says:
    Sep 23, 2016 10:42 AM
    ITT: Pats homers circle jerk. Nothing to do in NE except troll PFT message boards.
    ___________________

    That you can’t see the irony in your post is sad, you could obviously use the laugh.

  81. chippys lost binky says: Sep 23, 2016 12:38 PM

    jchipwood says:
    Sep 23, 2016 10:59 AM

    Your right. If those guys are cheating in which the patriots have a history of which just happens to be during their most successful seasons as a franchise then yes they should be suspended.
    +++++++++++

    It was inevitable, the patsanoia has finally pushed the chipster into the realm of incomprehensible drivel. We are here for you, it may just be to laugh but we are here

  82. markpags says: Sep 23, 2016 12:46 PM

    joefakeraiderfantoronto says:
    Sep 23, 2016 11:15 AM

    This question is driving bat-crap insane, but WHY, I mean WHY doesn’t every head coach in the league just copy and do EXACTLY what Bellichick (sic) does?! From drafting to plays to practice and personnel. If I were an NFL head coach, I would simply do whatever he is doing. That is the only way to even have a chance

    That’s precisely what the Texans are trying to be, with O’Brien, Crennell, Vrabel, Izzo… Poor Larry Izzo, his special teams got embarrassed last night. I think one big difference between HOU and NE’s execution is BB’s secret weapon, Ernie Adams. He’s the guy who takes all the mountains of data, film and stats and distills it into facts that the coaching staff can put into their gameplans.

  83. jchemengr says: Sep 23, 2016 12:48 PM

    No one can ever accuse the NFL office of understanding the game they control. And giving BB a chance to make Goodell look the fool is an offer he couldn’t refuse.

  84. whywerule says: Sep 23, 2016 12:48 PM

    renocarolina says:
    Sep 23, 2016 12:13 PM
    ….
    Gostkowski says it is “Dumb” to kick it out of the endzone

    Gostkowski kicks it out of the endzone 10 times out of 18….

    No, Gostkowski has had 10 touchbacks where, most of the time, the opposing team has fielded the ball one or two yards into the endzone and kneeled for a touchback. That is different than kicking it out of the park/endzone which Gostkowski could do every time in good weather. He is often trying to kick it inside the five yard line to almost force a run back. At times he “misses” and kicks it a little too far which is not surprising for one of the strongest legs in the NFL.

    So far this has worked out well for the Pats. If teams start returning the ball beyond the 25 yard line against the Pats I am sure their strategy will change.

  85. justintuckrule says: Sep 23, 2016 12:53 PM

    tricky020 says:
    Sep 23, 2016 8:47 AM
    While the rest of NFL coaches are playing checkers, Bill Belichick is playing chess.
    ———
    WRONG!

    While other coaches are playing checkers, BB is playing that Sheldon Cooper 3D chess with multiple levels.

    10 years later, I don’t know how my team beat this man in two superbowls. Seriously. I’m convinced that the man upstairs must be Giants’ fan.

  86. binarymath says: Sep 23, 2016 2:02 PM

    Completely lost in the discussion is that the original justification for the rule was that it would reduce injuries.

    Based on the articles, it ‘sounds like’ there have been more kickoff returns and fewer touchbacks. But what is the reality? Has anyone actually counted them up?

    The second part of the justification is that ‘all kickoff returns are equal’ in terms of their probability of injury. Is anyone looking at that?

    My barnyard theory is this: in past years, kickoff return and coverage teams were more lane-driven, full-speed collision affairs as teams tried to make a big return.

    With the new rule, coverage teams defend much more like a punt, letting defenders gather under a high kick, and forcing return teams to concentrate on getting out of bad field position more than trying to break a long return into good field position.

    If that’s the case, injuries might still be reduced under the new rule, but for a completely opposite reason than the competition committee suggested.

    And if the league takes a reactionary stand instead of an analytical one, they might undo the rule because kickoff returns are up, even if kickoff return INJURIES are down.

    Wouldn’t be the first time Roger and company flunked a simple science test…

  87. ibillwt says: Sep 23, 2016 6:49 PM

    Every rule change is an opportunity for the Great One.

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