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Hue Jackson not complaining about controversial fumble call

MIAMI GARDENS, FL - SEPTEMBER 25: Head Coach Hue Jackson of the Cleveland Browns watches his team warm up before the start of the game against the Cleveland Browns on September 25, 2016 in Miami Gardens, Florida. (Photo by Eric Espada/Getty Images) Getty Images

Although the Browns appeared to be the victims of a bad call on a Duke Johnson fumble on Sunday, coach Hue Jackson isn’t complaining.

Asked about the call today, Jackson said that even though Johnson came out of the pile with the ball, he can’t say for sure that the call was wrong.

“It doesn’t matter what I think. Obviously we’ll turn that in the and league will make their determination,” Jackson said. “It looked very close but I couldn’t challenge.”

Johnson fumbled going into a pile, and in a couple of seconds came out of the pile with the ball. But the officials ruled that Washington linebacker Will Compton recovered it first, and Johnson took it away from him only after Compton was on the ground with the ball in his possession. That seems unlikely, but there’s no definitive replay angle that shows exactly where the ball was at all times between Johnson fumbling and Johnson coming out of the pile with the ball, so there was no way for instant replay to overturn the call on the field.

If Jackson wanted to complain about that, it would be understandable. But he’s choosing not to.

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31 Responses to “Hue Jackson not complaining about controversial fumble call”
  1. politiciansareallthesame says: Oct 3, 2016 3:10 PM

    Poor Browns. Just when I thought they were going to get their first win of the season, they fumble the ball.

    The guy who said they might go 0-16… is probably right.

  2. idiedpretty says: Oct 3, 2016 3:11 PM

    Huey doesnt complain about anything. He is lucky to have a job with the worst team in the NFL! Dumpstah fire equals dumpstahfire.

  3. westsiiide says: Oct 3, 2016 3:15 PM

    Tough break for the Brownies but they are clearly the only team more cursed than the Skins. I don’t think the replay was conclusive too.

    Good game Clevelanders. Do us a favor and play inspired against Dallas too!

  4. macbull says: Oct 3, 2016 3:16 PM

    The Browns are an easy target for the refs…bad calls by the refs are simply overlooked by the league office as..it’s just the Browns…so what?

    There will come a time when the Browns gain and deserve more respect…Hue knows the call, bad or not, didn’t make the difference in who won the game.

    The young Browns players will hopefully learn…don’t put the ball on the ground and you don’t give the refs a chance to make a bad call.

  5. patriotsticketssince1978 says: Oct 3, 2016 3:16 PM

    He knows next week the NFL will pay him back big time.

  6. weepingjebus says: Oct 3, 2016 3:17 PM

    Parity would dictate that in close cases like this each team be allowed to leave the pile with a ball, and then both pairs of offenses and defenses can make their respective ways down the field in opposite directions at the same time.

  7. dirtydrynn27 says: Oct 3, 2016 3:17 PM

    0 and 16……

    Do they play the Colts???

  8. metalman5150 says: Oct 3, 2016 3:24 PM

    That seems unlikely, but there’s no definitive replay angle that shows exactly where the ball was at all times between Johnson fumbling and Johnson coming out of the pile with the ball, so there was no way for instant replay to overturn the call on the field.

    Not all things are as they SEEM

  9. doe22us says: Oct 3, 2016 3:28 PM

    I saw the video Johnson had the ball out of the scrum and held it up, the refs were still looking at the scrum.. laughable.

  10. hang3xc says: Oct 3, 2016 3:46 PM

    “Johnson took it away from him only after Compton was on the ground with the ball in his possession.”

    Gee, how many millions of times, in the history of fumble recoveries, has someone had the ball taken away from them after they had it in their possession. It’s the whole point of piling on and fighting for it.

    In this case, the Browns had clear possession of the ball, away from the pie of bodies on the ground, WHILE the refs were still trying to figure out where the ball was.

    Awful awful call, and I’m not a fan, nor hater, of either team.

  11. operations666 says: Oct 3, 2016 3:47 PM

    At least the browns weren’t penalized for making a “bow and arrow”, like Josh Norman was. We Redskins fans are still scratching our heads over that one..

  12. manureman says: Oct 3, 2016 3:49 PM

    So then Hue isn’t a packer fan(fail mary) i know it still hurts

  13. distracted9 says: Oct 3, 2016 4:00 PM

    Eagles player was penalized for the bow and arrow celebration the week before so it’s not brand new.. 15 yards

  14. crewchief15 says: Oct 3, 2016 4:01 PM

    operations666 says:
    Oct 3, 2016 3:47 PM

    At least the browns weren’t penalized for making a “bow and arrow”, like Josh Norman was. We Redskins fans are still scratching our heads over that one..
    ———————
    Maybe because it was just a stupid thing to do, but most Washington fans would not know the difference…ref’s were very helpful with that win yesterday!

  15. ryanlatterell says: Oct 3, 2016 4:12 PM

    These browns actually look like they should be winning

  16. dmretrogames says: Oct 3, 2016 4:30 PM

    “Tough break for the Brownies but they are clearly the only team more cursed than the Skins. I don’t think the replay was conclusive too.

    Good game Clevelanders. Do us a favor and play inspired against Dallas too!”

    They didn’t play “inspired” against the Skins, the worst team in football played toe to toe with them in their back yard, before fumbling it away. The Skins are hot garbage.

    You like that?

  17. avenger9800 says: Oct 3, 2016 4:43 PM

    What do you want Hue to say? We’ve been unfairly penalized by the refs for the 2nd week in a row, that potentially cost us 2 games? The only thing that’s going to do is get himself a nice big fine from good ol’ Rodger. What needs to happen is, Haslem needs to start putting a boot to the back side of Rodger himself, he’s one of his bosses and can’t be fined for sticking up for his team. Go get them Jimmy, and put a stop to this “it’s only Cleveland, who really cares” BS. Cleveland fans CARE!

  18. realtruthteller100 says: Oct 3, 2016 5:01 PM

    this is why u cant have womans as refs. a male ref would never blow a call like that. but pc police wont let us bring this important issue up.

  19. browncapsule says: Oct 3, 2016 5:31 PM

    The Browns will get the lowest rated officials all year. We had Triplettes crew yesterday.

  20. oscarxray says: Oct 3, 2016 5:39 PM

    It did seem like an over compensation deal with the lady referee as in she wouldn’t admit she was wrong for free of not being taken seriously going forward the rest of her career.

    The other possibility is one of the other crew members saw it and were afraid to contradict her as well as a the league office after the fact.

    I have not taken into account she may have been correct. That is impossible.

  21. heymister24 says: Oct 3, 2016 5:53 PM

    Seems like the booth gave her broad leeway.

  22. ballboy48 says: Oct 3, 2016 5:53 PM

    The Browns have literally been in every game this season. I think Hue is building that team right, they just have to finish games. They have a ton of rookies and second year players stepping up. The injury bug has also hit them hard, it appears.

  23. mrdry14 says: Oct 3, 2016 5:54 PM

    He’s just saying that because he screwed up by not challenging

  24. mongo3401 says: Oct 3, 2016 5:54 PM

    One of the worst calls I have ever seen. This woman ref was clueless. Refs get away with crap why? Because very few plays are permitted to be challenged. That’s wrong. if all calls were reviewable the game would not be that much longer. Problem is the NFL fans would realize just how inept these officials are. Plus Vegas would have. I more in on the point spreads.

  25. autumnwind999 says: Oct 3, 2016 6:10 PM

    It was a joke of a call. NFL is protecting its lone female referee (who made the call to award Washington the ball well after Johnson emerged with it).

    Not that male refs don’t blow calls every week. But, as always in Goodell’s NFL, PR manipulation trumps the truth. Even in situations like this where the company spin is an insult to fans’ intelligence.

  26. mogogo1 says: Oct 3, 2016 6:35 PM

    Not only was the call blown the rule applied was wrong for the situation. The “clear possession” rule they cited is only intended for cases when you see a guy clearly down with the ball before 10 other guys come piling on. That really never happened on this play as evidenced by Johnson immediately hopping up with the ball.

    But similar plays have happened before. The worst place to be in a situation like that is away from the pile holding the ball like Johnson was. The refs are only focused on the pile and when they can’t find it immediately they panic and just point one direction or the other. And they’ll never change their ruling because that would be admitting they made a call without having any clue if it was correct.

  27. Underdawgs says: Oct 3, 2016 7:00 PM

    And no mention of two of the worst pass interference calls I’ve ever seen against the Browns in that second half to further aid the skins to a victory.

    On one, the defender turns around and plays the ball and almost catches it in his stomach. Should have picked it.

    The second against Haden, he turns and runs with the WR and literally never touches him. Literally… Not sure how pass intereference calls that are crucial spot fouls can’t be reviewed and overturned. Travesty!

  28. thetooloftools says: Oct 3, 2016 7:07 PM

    Hue has a tough time right now.
    He needs to spin the positive but the team is really weak in personnel.
    It will only get worse.
    We will be ok.
    Young players either get better, or get waived.

  29. PFT loves the Steelers says: Oct 3, 2016 7:12 PM

    Couldn’t have been any worse than Tyler Boyd’s non-fumble fumble against the league’s beloved Steelers. Knee was firmly planted in the ground and ball was secured, yet refs won’t overturn the fumble call. Pathetic.

  30. demskinsbaby says: Oct 3, 2016 8:06 PM

    I think the next couple of drafts will make the Browns a powerhouse, actually. Hue Jackson is just the coach you guys need to make y’all scary. Just be patient. Every dog has its day.

  31. scottwessels says: Oct 4, 2016 1:50 AM

    I disagree that a male referee wouldn’t make as an egregious error that she did in Sunday’s game. Between Triplette and Hochuli, they’ve done just as bad, if not worse. The problem is, the NFL came out and DEFENDED the call today instead of admitting error, presumably to shield Sarah Thomas from embarrassment and further scrutiny. By coddling her (and possibly warning Hue Jackson to shush up about it with promise of sanctions) they didn’t treat her equally as her male counterparts. By giving her special treatment, they are doing her a disservice. She’s as competent as most line judges, just let her take her medicine and dock her performance points like any other NFL referee.

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