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Doug Pederson: Officials missed call on Eagles’ fumble

DETROIT, MI - OCTOBER 09: Head coach Doug Pederson of the Philadelphia Eagles talks to an official during first half action against the Detroit Lions at Ford Field on October 9, 2016 in Detroit, Michigan. (Photo by Leon Halip/Getty Images) Getty Images

The Eagles were close to sealing a win late in the fourth quarter in Detroit yesterday when running back Ryan Matthews fumbled, the Lions recovered, and marched down the field to score the game-winning field goal. But Eagles coach Doug Pederson says the Lions shouldn’t have been awarded the ball.

According to Pederson, in the scramble for the loose ball, Eagles center Jason Kelce touched the ball while he was out of bounds, which should have been ruled as the ball out of bounds and the Eagles retaining possession.

It’s a dead ball; out of bounds,” Pederson said. “That’s the rule. That was one of the things this morning I wanted to make sure this morning that I was correct and accurate in that ruling.”

NFL head of officiating Dean Blandino, however, said there was no definitive angle to overturn the ruling on the field, which was that the Lions recovered the fumble.

“Not definitive,” Blandino said in a video released by the NFL. “The ruling on the field is that the ball was inbounds and was not touched by a player who was out of bounds.”

That answer won’t satisfy the Eagles, but it’s the answer the NFL is going with: The replay wasn’t enough to overturn the call on the field.

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75 Responses to “Doug Pederson: Officials missed call on Eagles’ fumble”
  1. sportmigos says: Oct 10, 2016 1:47 PM

    ppl forget that lions are in fact just big cats

  2. mikelitoris1 says: Oct 10, 2016 1:50 PM

    No definitive angle to prove Duke Johnson fumbled last week either according to this guy. I guess the refs can use this excuse for all obviously bad calls now 🤔

  3. dynastyfootballforme says: Oct 10, 2016 1:51 PM

    This fumble was certainly up for interpretation, but honestly, has the NFL ever admitted fault on any subject? Of course not.

  4. tacowrecker says: Oct 10, 2016 1:53 PM

    NFL needs to quit sitting on the fence with Instant Relay. Either go all-in w/ the technology (chips in the ball, hi-tech cameras etc.) and make everything reviewable or do away w/ replay entirely and go back to old-school on field, real-time officiating. NFL’s replay methods haven’t solved any problems, and actually seem to have made things worse.

  5. upperdecker19 says: Oct 10, 2016 1:54 PM

    NFL Week #4 Officiating Ineptitude Power Rankings

    5. Jeff Tripplette
    4. Jerome Bogar
    3. Any 2013 NFL Replacement referee
    2. Dean Blandino
    1. Pete Morelli

  6. jclark6528 says: Oct 10, 2016 1:55 PM

    As a Browns fan, welcome to our world!!

  7. upperdecker19 says: Oct 10, 2016 1:57 PM

    Well…..guess there’s no definitive angle that the guy who batted the ball back into the field of play was in contact with Kelce …..who was out of bound……OR the guy who recovered was in contact with Kelce as he recovered….who was out of bounds.

    But hey….Ryan Mathews has done this before….a lot! Give the ball to anyone else on the team and you most likely get the win.

  8. averagejoe5050 says: Oct 10, 2016 2:01 PM

    14-2 penalty ratio seems fair ??….Like 3-1 against Mr. Trump in his debate ?? TOO MUCH BIAS

  9. jackedupboonie says: Oct 10, 2016 2:03 PM

    All this pretend first part of season….it’s obvious which teams are for real. See the forest through the trees.

  10. theecowardlylion says: Oct 10, 2016 2:05 PM

    the one thing the replay did show was that the injury-waiting-to-happen (Ryan Matthews) has no idea how to carry a football.

  11. lemmetalkwouldya says: Oct 10, 2016 2:05 PM

    Here’s a crazy idea, Doug Pederson; how about your defense stop the Lions from marching down the field AFTER the fumble???

    Nah, blame the officials.

  12. jgedgar70 says: Oct 10, 2016 2:06 PM

    upperdecker19 says:
    Oct 10, 2016 1:54 PM

    NFL Week #4 Officiating Ineptitude Power Rankings

    5. Jeff Tripplette
    4. Jerome Bogar
    3. Any 2013 NFL Replacement referee
    2. Dean Blandino
    1. Pete Morelli
    _____
    No. The 2013 replacement refs were ALL better than these morons.

    And Blandino will gleefully accept being ranked worst, as long as he gets to be in front of a camera when he does it.

    Morons.

  13. chino1985 says: Oct 10, 2016 2:07 PM

    Sounds to me someone is bitter they lost. Lots of plays and penalties can go either way during a game. It’s your job as a coach and the players job to not put yourself into those situations. And also, pointing out a single play as to why you lost and making it public is petty.

  14. harrisonhits2 says: Oct 10, 2016 2:07 PM

    “Either go all-in w/ the technology (chips in the ball, hi-tech cameras etc.) and make everything reviewable or do away w/ replay entirely and go back to old-school on field, real-time officiating. ”

    That will never happen. Unfortunately there are now millions of “refs” with dvrs that will rewatch any play in question 55 time to find the one 1/30th of a second frame that they can claim makes it a blown call.

    That’s one of the problems with replay. It breaks a play down into such tiny fractions of a second that you can almost always find one frame that will allow you to argue the call was blown. When in fact its not supposed to be that way. Sometimes a catch is a catch and a fumble a fumble and nothing more or less.

  15. drakost says: Oct 10, 2016 2:08 PM

    There is a little known secret to tell if someone from the league is lying to you. Their lips move.

    Oh and averagejoe500 the fact that Trump is a viable presidential candidate is a sad commentary about our political system.

  16. jag1959 says: Oct 10, 2016 2:09 PM

    Not fumbling the ball in the first place, getting a stop outside of FG range after the fumble or scoring rather than turning it over again on the final drive might also have helped seal the win.

  17. jerrysglassescleaner says: Oct 10, 2016 2:10 PM

    Let it go, let it go, just let it go. Wentz hit a rookie wall. You have a lot of time left and threw a heroic throw ON THE FIRST SNAP! Romo would win you that game. Even Sanchez has won those with less time. Let it go!

  18. steviaquinn says: Oct 10, 2016 2:10 PM

    It’s a losing battle here Doug. Dean “destroying the NFL”Blandino is going to be on the NFL network justifying this and ever other blown call this week. Apparently, the NFL referees are 100% perfect and have never made a mistake ( the only people in the world that are perfect).

    Dean Blandino is destroying the credibility of the NFL, proving bias and giving credence to the notion the some of these games could be rigged. Its amazing he is employed by the NFL and they let him talk to the media.

  19. vikingsdefineaverage says: Oct 10, 2016 2:13 PM

    So Blandino uses the same excuse 2 weeks in a row

    Dallas games are the only primtetime games I will be watching all season

  20. pacificdan says: Oct 10, 2016 2:14 PM

    tacowrecker, I think you forget how bad it was before instant replay was put into place. Blatant calls missed where a replay clearly show it was wrong and there was nothing the teams could do about it. It’s not perfect by any means but getting rid of instant replay would be a huge mistake.

  21. tylawspick6 says: Oct 10, 2016 2:18 PM

    i am not so sure kelce was touching out of bounds before the lions recovered it.

  22. phil325 says: Oct 10, 2016 2:22 PM

    Does Pederson want cheese with that whine?

  23. whocares69 says: Oct 10, 2016 2:25 PM

    what’s that sound?? oh that’s the ratings falling some more…

  24. threalwash says: Oct 10, 2016 2:28 PM

    Has anyone here seen the play? They showed numerous angles and there was nothing definitive to use for overturning the call. IF Kelse was out of bounds with his hand on the ball, I sure didn’t see it. Just a bunch of Lions players.

    BTW Ryan Matthews, when running outside, the ball goes in your outside arm.

  25. floreskins says: Oct 10, 2016 2:29 PM

    Morelli and his crew were pathetic on Sunday.

  26. lionsfan54 says: Oct 10, 2016 2:29 PM

    Even so, pretty good chance that the Lions get into field goal range with about 1:50 left after the Eagles punt (it would have been 4th down).

  27. kane337 says: Oct 10, 2016 2:31 PM

    Sorry all I heard was “WAAAAAAAAAA”

  28. goodluckking says: Oct 10, 2016 2:32 PM

    This is surreal. Lions fans have never been on this side of the argument. WOW! It’s an interesting view point indeed. I hate inconsistent calls, but again, it’s just so weird to be on this side of it. I think I might actually be smiling.

  29. 33vikes says: Oct 10, 2016 2:39 PM

    Enough with the definitive angle. The Philly coach is pointing out that his guy was out of bounds. Get the call right on the field and stop relying on replay. Blandino drives me crazy.

  30. eaglesw00t says: Oct 10, 2016 2:47 PM

    Google it. 3 definitive still shots, and a definitive video of it. Plain as day.

    Im not complaining about the refs, but I am complaining that the quality has gone down every year. They are impacting more and more games. Its a disgrace. They need to be held to a standard, and missing such blatant calls (for all teams) like they are doing this year, is absolutely unbearable. It makes me want to turn off my TV.

  31. 26predator says: Oct 10, 2016 2:48 PM

    Is he kidding me right now?? Missed calls, misinterpreted calls, bad calls, no calls, phantom calls go against the Lions every. single. week. For FOREVER.

  32. liongator says: Oct 10, 2016 2:54 PM

    Ryan Mathews is a tumor leftover from Chip Kelly. Should have removed him before he became malignant.

  33. nflcommissioner says: Oct 10, 2016 2:57 PM

    Cry Eagles! Cry!!!

  34. chizzlechest says: Oct 10, 2016 2:59 PM

    The reason the Lions were able to drive down the field in the first half is because their line got away with blatant holds. The Eagles line defines the Eagles success. They were held from the first play of the game. 14 to 2 is a disgrace. There is never a game that will have that difference without bias calls.

    NFL should investigate this crew and the replay official.

    And change the frikken rules. No more “not enough evidence to overturn”.

    -signed True football fan

  35. 302EaglesFan says: Oct 10, 2016 3:02 PM

    That was the worst officiating game I’ve ever seen. It doesnt matter if it was the Lions winning or losing, the Dolphins, the fact is the calls were absolutely biased….if you’re calling half of them against one team you better be calling them against the other. Second, to miss huge calls for turnovers is monstrous. If you’re a football fan (except the winning team) you should be outraged! The Eagles got robbed!

  36. threalwash says: Oct 10, 2016 3:08 PM

    Enough with the definitive angle. The Philly coach is pointing out that his guy was out of bounds. Get the call right on the field and stop relying on replay. Blandino drives me crazy.
    _________________________________
    Did you see it? There was a pile of bodies. Okay, I’ll drop the angle stance, there was no way to determine o belonged to which body part.

  37. pastabelly says: Oct 10, 2016 3:08 PM

    Pederson is actually correct and it was clear from the video footage. The call was blown. Why can’t Blandino and Goodell ever admit when they’re wrong? The NFL league office can’t get out of its own way sometimes.

  38. flybirdhaters27 says: Oct 10, 2016 3:09 PM

    14 penalties for 111 yards for one team vs 2 for 18 yards for the other. How does Blandino still have a job, as well as Pete Morelli’s crew? They botch more calls than any crew yet Blandino still covers for them. I guess he still rides the Cowboys bus to his office. Smh.

  39. eaglephan says: Oct 10, 2016 3:10 PM

    If I would have told anyone before this game started that the 3-0 team coming off a bye would commit 14 penalties to the lowly 1-3 poorly coached and awfully disciplined garbage lions 2 penalties; You would have surely put your money on the home team. The fumble was a cupcake for the refs, the lions were already covering at that point. Detroit benefited from a at least a 15yd penalty on every scoring drive. Also the one stat nfl.com will not show – 1st downs from penalties. It was cooked, move on to week 6.

    Go Birds.

  40. ahummler72 says: Oct 10, 2016 3:12 PM

    The lions hadn’t moved the ball the whole 2nd half , no chance if eagles punt there gonna move it 50+ yards with no timeouts….. you cannot be serious lions fans

  41. thefirstsmilergrogan says: Oct 10, 2016 3:14 PM

    the disparity in penalties was marked. all but one dubious disputed call went detroit’s way. a couple of the penalties were game altering.

    but matthews not carrying the football in the outside arm rather than the inside arm cost the team the game. and pederson should have addressed that at the same time as mentioning the outcome of the fumble. and how the initial call on the fumble was that none of the people laying on the sideline reaching for the ball touched it prior to its recovery is surprising.

  42. derek1800 says: Oct 10, 2016 3:16 PM

    What about the 3 pts Philly got after a penalty flag was thrown, an illegal man downfield was called, and Pete the Moron picked up the flag, Reviewed the play for a catch, and gave the Eagles a first down totally disregarding the flag and announced penalty of illegal man down field.

    I thought for sure these 3 pts would be the difference in the game given this is what happened when Pete the Moron did the same thing when the Lions were playing Dallas in the playoffs (announcing a penalty, marking it off, then changing his mind with no explanation before next play).

    Even if the refs were wrong on this play the 3 pts on each side canceled each other out.

  43. mistyzhang says: Oct 10, 2016 3:27 PM

    Hey Doug only losers blame the refs! I know cuz I’m a Lions fan. Enjoy the loss . You’ll be okay and assure you the sun will rise tomorrow .

  44. mistyzhang says: Oct 10, 2016 3:32 PM

    I’m not so sure it was indisputable evidence showing he was touching it but I tell you what was indisputable, the Seahawks intentional bat of the ball out of the end zone last year. That is what indisputable evidence looks like.

  45. torebear says: Oct 10, 2016 3:34 PM

    I’we reviewed the game, and the only I repeat ONLY undeserved penalty on the Eagles was the Chop block with 1:30 to go in the 2nd quarter. But guess what, the eagles converted later and hence the bad call had no effect on the game.

    And with 14 penalties you would expect there to be a lot of calls for Offensive holding, and false starts. The Eagles only had one hold in the pocket, and no false starts.

    The calls on the Eagles in the 1st half were PI, offside, hitting defenseless player, Delay of game, grabbing helmet, “chop block”, holding(in pocket), offensive PI.

    In the 2nd half they had PI, Delay of game, illegal formation, holding(outside pocket), unnecessary rougness.

    This was a well officiated game for once, and if the Eagles got away with this stuff in their previous games, it’s no wonder they’we won 3 games.

  46. riffrafflaff says: Oct 10, 2016 3:43 PM

    Mathews should have been carrying the ball with the outside arm, you learn that in pee wee football.

  47. 302EaglesFan says: Oct 10, 2016 3:43 PM

    The Eagles were the better team yesterday. The NFL and refs made sure the Lions would stay close and possibly win. It’s obvious. All the Lions holds that weren’t called, the imbalance in calls, the blown turnover replay, and even the Slay interception – look at him pull Agholor’s arm before the catch. That would have been called against the Eagles. There were numerous non calls against the Birds, a ton of questionable calls, clear bias and clear buffoonery with crucial turnovers. I guess they’re trying to help their ratings by boosting a big market team.

  48. newmancave2016 says: Oct 10, 2016 3:46 PM

    Worst officiating I have seen in 30 years. I had been excusing it by saying the Eagles didn’t show up in the 1st quarter. But even that’s crap. On the first drive, they missed BLATANT holding everywhere. Let’s review:

    –14 penalties to 2. No. Way.

    –Calling a penalty on a player who wasn’t on the field because he plays DEFENSE and wears #98.

    –Bogus PI on Ertz

    –Bogus “chop block” on Sproles, who didn’t go low. He’s just short. The other player wasn’t even engaged.

    –Blown fumble call. The ball was clearly batted back by Kelce. Clear as day.

    –Blatant missed PI on the last throw that was intercepted.

    –Highly questionable roughing penalty on Stafford when he ran (on Carroll, I think).

    That’s just off the top of my head. The officials decided this game, period. I refuse to acknowledge it as a loss. It’s total B$, and everyone knows it. The NFL didn’t want to see the Lions start 1-4 and Caldwell to get fired. The fix was in.

  49. timmmah10 says: Oct 10, 2016 3:51 PM

    upperdecker19 says:
    Oct 10, 2016 1:57 PM

    Well…..guess there’s no definitive angle that the guy who batted the ball back into the field of play was in contact with Kelce …..who was out of bound……OR the guy who recovered was in contact with Kelce as he recovered….who was out of bounds.

    ————————————————-
    The player laying on a player that is out of bounds is not out of bounds by rule, just like a player, laying on a player in bounds is not down by contact.

    I thought the ball hit Kelce, but, at the same time, it doesn’t matter if he was in contact with Kelce when he batted it back.

  50. charliecharger says: Oct 10, 2016 4:04 PM

    Doug Pederson has a long head coaching career ahead of him. He’ll win some and lose some because of the refs. It happens to all coaches. However, all coaches don’t get a young HOF QB to begin their careers. I doubt Pederson is going to receive too much sympathy from the other 31 coaches.

  51. onebuffalove716 says: Oct 10, 2016 4:06 PM

    That….. or you don’t fumble in that spot. Watch instinctive rb ‘s when they brace for contact. They wrap the ball up. He seems to fumble a lot but idk maybe that’s just my perception

  52. getadealdonealready says: Oct 10, 2016 4:07 PM

    The NFL still stands by it’s answer that the game does not cause concussions, do you think they going to admit to blowing critical calls.

  53. Ron Jull says: Oct 10, 2016 4:09 PM

    Fumblegate!!!!

  54. thefirstsmilergrogan says: Oct 10, 2016 4:10 PM

    to the man with the replay. watch the first two sweeps by the lions in the first half. both times they got around the corner via holding penalties that were not called.

    the p.i. on 22 green (draped was what homer announcer spielman said) was the same coverage by 59 blue twice later in the first half but ruled legal and strangely unnoticed by spielman… .

  55. kfoyo808 says: Oct 10, 2016 4:15 PM

    I’m an Eagles fan. Eagles did not touch it while out of bounds. Nor did Lions. Wishful thinking within an inch or two.

    How about instead of blaming the refs, how about you blame your Frigging RB for fumbling it!!!! Ryan Mathews – rules for carrying the ball trying to run the clock out w/ lead 1. don’t fumble the ball. 2. don’t fumble the ball. 3. do we need a 3rd? DON’T FUMBLE THE BALL!!!!!

  56. Youknowimright says: Oct 10, 2016 4:31 PM

    Enjoy that loss doug. Your team sucked coming out of the bye. That’s the coach’s fault. Quit crying eagles fan in general, you lost. Wentz is not the super hero you are portraying him to be and the defense just got jacked by a terrible lions team. Quit whining.

  57. andyisfat says: Oct 10, 2016 4:36 PM

    Your veteran RB should have been holding the ball with the correct hand. Cut that stiff.

  58. onlinetoughguy says: Oct 10, 2016 4:38 PM

    It looked pretty definitive to me. A player on the Lions’ foot also touched the ball while his helmet was out of bounds.

  59. ppletr says: Oct 10, 2016 4:49 PM

    Mathews is not one who fumbles the ball. In the past few seasons his ratio for fumbles is 1 in 99 carries.
    Officiating stunk the place up….Slay’s interception was a PI. He grabbed the receiver’s arm before the ball arrived…
    Lot’s of homer calls.
    Time for the league to spend some of it’s billions on full time refs and year round training.
    At least fire the worst of them.

  60. shurmanblog says: Oct 10, 2016 4:52 PM

    Always thought that Steelers fans were the biggest crybabies in Pennsylvania but upon further review that call has been overturned and it’s really Eagles fans who cry the most .

  61. Youknowimright says: Oct 10, 2016 4:57 PM

    Does anyone have a Kleenex for these crying eagle fans?

  62. bringbackwayne says: Oct 10, 2016 4:59 PM

    ahummler72 says:
    Oct 10, 2016 3:12 PM

    The lions hadn’t moved the ball the whole 2nd half , no chance if eagles punt there gonna move it 50+ yards with no timeouts….. you cannot be serious lions fans
    *****************************************

    Then why didn’t they keep Stafford from making that clutch row off of his back foot for the big gain at the end? Stafford is known for his comebacks. Lions win!!!!!!!!

  63. torebear says: Oct 10, 2016 5:01 PM

    Slays pick was not a PI. Head turned. Check. looking for the ball. check. Incidental contact that is part of the game.

  64. ahummler72 says: Oct 10, 2016 5:53 PM

    torebear says:
    Oct 10, 2016 3:34 PM
    I’we reviewed the game, and the only I repeat ONLY undeserved penalty on the Eagles was the Chop block with 1:30 to go in the 2nd quarter. But guess what, the eagles converted later and hence the bad call had no effect on the game.

    And with 14 penalties you would expect there to be a lot of calls for Offensive holding, and false starts. The Eagles only had one hold in the pocket, and no false starts.

    The calls on the Eagles in the 1st half were PI, offside, hitting defenseless player, Delay of game, grabbing helmet, “chop block”, holding(in pocket), offensive PI.

    In the 2nd half they had PI, Delay of game, illegal formation, holding(outside pocket), unnecessary rougness.

    This was a well officiated game for once, and if the Eagles got away with this stuff in their previous games, it’s no wonder they’we won 3 games.
    **********************************
    Doesn’t explain the many holding calls on Detroit that we’re never called in 1st half….. bad officiating usually goes both ways …Nice try buddy!

  65. xtos08blog says: Oct 10, 2016 6:20 PM

    They definitely didn’t “march down the field”…

  66. steves11 says: Oct 10, 2016 6:42 PM

    Whether it was the right call or not, the Eagles should never have allowed it to happen in the first place. You can’t turn the ball over in a situation like that. They deserved to lose.

  67. eglsfan says: Oct 10, 2016 7:38 PM

    He said it wasnt the reason they lost…..Matthews….dude I have liked you since Fresno (the other FSU)…but your health & this bonehead move is not cool……that said Schwartz your first half game plan blew goat

  68. vegasdestroyer says: Oct 10, 2016 8:14 PM

    “The ruling on the field is that the ball was inbounds and was not touched by a player who was out of bounds.”

    The video clearly shows the ball squirting out of Kelce’s butt. If there is any question it is when Kelce is out of bounds, but the ref ruled he was out of bounds.

  69. torebear says: Oct 11, 2016 3:23 AM

    @ahummler72
    I think you need to look a little closer. The Eagles held just as much. Remember there is holding, then there is illegal holding. The second is the one that gives penalties.

    You have to look at if the holding impacted the play, and if the player let go quick enough.

  70. honalulublue says: Oct 11, 2016 12:41 PM

    Well wah wah. lol You’d have punted anyway with 2 minutes left. Nothing like that has EVER happened to the Lions though, right?

  71. ahummler72 says: Oct 11, 2016 7:06 PM

    @torebear
    If that was the case then they should’ve never flagged brooks for holding on the Eagles when your lion player who was never gonna make the tackle on Mathews flopped
    That play alone cost us 30 yards and probably a touchdown
    Again nice try buddy

  72. ahummler72 says: Oct 11, 2016 7:11 PM

    @torebear
    Seriously bro in the history of football it’s only a .5% chance of a team getting 12 more flags then the other look it up…. And still the eagles dominated the boxscore …. give it up – fix was in! No way you or anyone believes your propaganda! Lol

  73. ahummler72 says: Oct 11, 2016 7:13 PM

    @torebear
    Since you seem challenged …. .5% = 1 out of every 200

  74. macjacmccoy says: Oct 12, 2016 1:54 PM

    Marched down the field? The literally recovered the ball in field goal range, took less then a minute off the clock, and had to settle for a field goal.

  75. jonwill57 says: Oct 14, 2016 5:52 PM

    @Youknowimright says:
    Oct 10, 2016 4:31 PM

    Enjoy that loss doug. Your team sucked coming out of the bye. That’s the coach’s fault. Quit crying eagles fan in general, you lost. Wentz is not the super hero you are portraying him to be and the defense just got jacked by a terrible lions team. Quit whining.
    ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
    Philly D shut them down in the second half. I loved the chop block on Sproles…the player wasn’t engaged.

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