Concerns persist regarding Jake Long’s knee

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The Ravens wanted to sign tackle Jake Long in July. The deal fell apart when he refused to sign an injury waiver.

Long insisted at the time that his knee is fine.

The Vikings have now pulled the trigger on the first overall pick in the 2008 draft. It’s currently unknown whether he signed an injury waiver, or whether the Vikings have concerns about the knee.

Still, the league at large continues to have questions about Long’s ability to stay healthy. Given the intense need the Vikings have at the tackle position, it’s entirely possible that the Vikings opted to roll the dice because they lack other viable options.

40 responses to “Concerns persist regarding Jake Long’s knee

  1. And the Vikings get younger????

    Wait, when you have a great GM don’t you draft and develop and promote some young stud? I think so. But I guess it makes sense to sign street vets with recognizable names nobody else wanted so your fan base can tout your brilliance. (To Rick: Hey, your fans are as brilliant as you. You’re one lucky dog. What’s the saying? Oh yeah, “The emperor has no clothes!” Although it’s a Packers fan calling out the emperor.)

  2. What do Long, Hill, Boone, Joseph, Asiata, both Johnsons, Berger, Munnerlyn, Sendejo, Newman, Sherels, and Smith have in common?

    They all play key roles on the Vikings, were not MN draft picks, contribute to the aged Vikings roster and allow Ricky Tick to fleece the fan base that he has a keen eye for college talent. Oh and they’ll inadvertently cause the house of cards to crumble within a few short years.

    This has been your bit of Vikings trivia for the day.

  3. Meh this is a non issue, the vikings wouldnt have signed long if he couldnt help out an wasnt physically able too….this just in, people are still comcerned about bradfords knee as well

  4. Long’s knee may very well be FUBAR. I’m not gonna hold his refusal to sign a waiver against him though. If I had millions in the bank I wouldn’t sign a piece of paper that essentially says “Put your body through an immense physical beating, but if your knee gives out, we’re not paying you.” What a great deal!

  5. What a weird post. The league at large has no concerns about any one player’s health. Individual teams thinking about signing a player may have a concern, but then the plus side out way the negs and there you go.

    Vikings picked up a player with a injury history cause they needed to. Other teams do it all the time too.

  6. Hopefully, the Ravens’ loss is the Vikings’ gain. It would be a huge boost to the Viking O-line if he can stay healthy and contribute.

  7. T.J. Clemmings was rated the worst tackle in the league by PFF, and that was before his matador impression on Sunday.

    Forget about Jake Long’s knee. The Vikings are considering suiting up Teddy Bridgewater to play left tackle.

  8. “Concerns persist”. Apparently the Vikings aren’t concerned and it seems like it shouldn’t be anybody else’s business.

  9. “Still, the league at large continues to have questions about Long’s ability to stay healthy”

    He was fine till Philbin broke him.

  10. Of course there are concerns about his knee. The Vikings obviously saw something in him they liked, otherwise they wouldn’t have used the rest of their cap space $ on him.

    He won’t start right away anyways unless he’s absolutely unreal in practice, and lets face it. He won’t be, he’s been out of the league two years.

    Clemmings will continue to start for the next few week and if he continues to struggle, then Long might get a shot. MIGHT.

    A solid depth signing is all it is.

  11. cribbage12 says:
    They all play key roles on the Vikings, were not MN draft picks

    Hey, don’t hate on Rick just because people will actually come to our state and play pro football by choice and not because that’s who drafted them. It’s a beautiful place to raise a family and compared to Wisconsin you chances of being taken out by a serial killer are astronomically lower.

  12. Cribbage12, just because TT refuses to supplement his roster with free agents and trades, doesn’t make it the only way to build a team. Spielman has obviously done a great job of adding players via all options available to him. Restricting yourself to only drafting players is a stubborn and narrow-minded way to run a team. Spielman and Zimmer have the Vikings primed for a Super Bowl run and I know that makes Packer fans such as yourself sick to your stomachs, but that makes it all the more enjoyable for Viking fans.

  13. Big deal, they’re paying him a pro-rated vets minimum. That’s about what the average Pack fan spends in a year on box cutters.

  14. diveleft says:
    Oct 12, 2016 11:28 AM
    Cribbage12, just because TT refuses to supplement his roster with free agents and trades, doesn’t make it the only way to build a team. Spielman has obviously done a great job of adding players via all options available to him. Restricting yourself to only drafting players is a stubborn and narrow-minded way to run a team. Spielman and Zimmer have the Vikings primed for a Super Bowl run and I know that makes Packer fans such as yourself sick to your stomachs, but that makes it all the more enjoyable for Viking fans.
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    I guess you got me there.

    But seriously, Rick is doing what he learned in Miami. Every one of those guys except Shaun Hill has an active and key role on the team regarding playing time. So 12 key players (not 3 or 5) from other teams have a spot on a team where the GM (whose main job is to draft) has failed…yes failed, to build young depth.

    And please don’t flatter yourself. Packers fans are not worried about the Vikings – believe me. Our confidence in our team is as high as yours for 2016 – particularly since our star QB hasn’t played his best football (unlike yours) and we haven’t had the unreal lucky bounces the Vikings have had. Don’t for a minute think the Vikings’ turnover ratio, defensive and ST TDs can be extrapolated through the rest of the season.

  15. This young man is lucky to have another chance in the NFL. Let us all cheer for him as he comes back from injury. And let’s remember, lenthevikesfan, serial killers lives matter, too. It doesn’t pay to be too narrow-minded.

  16. Griffen, Floyd, Shamar, Robison (not drafted by Spielman), Barr, Greenway(not drafted by Spielman), Kendricks, Rhodes, Waynes, Harrison, Alexander… what a horrible group of drafted defensive players by the Vikings.

  17. Cribbage needs to quit complaining about the team that is #1 in the Power Rankings and have the best Defense in the League and worry about his own team that is eeking out wins by the skin of their teeth.
    We beat you Head to Head, the last 2 times we have met, we have the superior team, and Packer fans just cannot get the
    sand we kicked wiped out of your face.
    Your team peaked 3 years ago, and you keep spitting bile because face it, it is all you have now.
    If you are lucky you will only have to lose to us once more
    this year because the Packers don’t make the playoffs this year.
    The Pack fell down and broke their Crown… BTW 2nd place is still the first loser.

  18. cribbage12 says:
    Oct 11, 2016 11:33 PM

    What do Long, Hill, Boone, Joseph, Asiata, both Johnsons, Berger, Munnerlyn, Sendejo, Newman, Sherels, and Smith have in common?

    They all play key roles on the Vikings, were not MN draft picks, contribute to the aged Vikings roster and allow Ricky Tick to fleece the fan base that he has a keen eye for college talent. Oh and they’ll inadvertently cause the house of cards to crumble within a few short years.

    This has been your bit of Vikings trivia for the day.
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    Wow…strange that a Packers fan would so readily dismiss UDFAs. Hill, Sherels and Asiata were Vikings UDFAs. They have not played for another team (except Hill). Do the Packers not get credit for finding and developing Sam Shields? In fact, if it weren’t for UDFAs, the Packers wouldn’t be able to field a team. Since 2005, UDFAs have taken more snaps for the Packers than any other team. It isn’t even close. Good thing too with their aversion to free agency and their eagerness to cut bait with their own draft busts. Why the hatred for free agents or trade acquisitions? Brett Favre, Reggie White and Charles Woodson weren’t Packers draft picks. Are they any less revered in Packers lore? Watching an offense plummet to bottom 3rd after losing a WR and gaining an out of shape running back is a house of cards. Losing a CB and watching the pass defense give up career highs to WRs on a near weekly basis is a house of cards.

  19. @ cribbage

    Ok. There was a lot to unpack there. First, regarding drafting, Speilman has drafted more pro bowl players in Minnesota than Thompson has in GB. Secondly, there are 7 7th rounders drafted by speilman on NFL rosters or practice squads – the most in the league. Thompson is a decent GM who made one amazing draft choice and one great call back in 2008. But he’s had a lot of misses during his tenure. Let’s not pretend otherwise.

    Secondly, the Vikings have UDFAs or Draftees at 9/12 slots on D (I’m calling the Nicole a starter, and that doesn’t help me since it’s munnerlyn). The outliers are Joseph, Newman and Munnerlyn.

    On O, draftees/UDFAs make up 7/12 current slots with Berger, Johnson, Bradford, Boone and Sirles (a late round trade acquisition) making up the balance.

    So, I think it’s clear our team is largely built through the draft.

    As far as where our teams can go from here, yes, Bradford is playing great football, and I agree it can realistically only get worse. However, what makes you think the Packers O is suddenly going to find its groove again? Rodgers has played the same way for about 16 games in a row. He’s had some flashes of 2010 Rodgers along the way, but he’s earned his 87.5 passer rating. Why do you think it’s suddenly going to get better? I won’t bet against him, but there is a non-zero chance that this is the new normal for him.

    As far as lucky bounces, I’ll agree we aren’t going to end the season with 13 or so defensive and ST TDs. But the scoring defense is sustainable – 8 consecutive games now with 17 or fewer points scored against them. And we won’t maintain a 10-1 TO margin, but why couldn’t we end the season at 3-1? Turnovers typically happen while being aggressive. With our D, there is no reason the be overly aggressive. I believe we’ve only had two first half turn overs (Againt GB and we turned it right back over and the miffed punt against the Giants) so we are getting turn overs when other teams are playing catch up. Is that not sustainable, at least to a degree?

    And lastly, it hasn’t been all luck either. The Vikings have been decimated by injuries. Injuries to key players thy would have afforded many organizations and teams an excuse to go into the tank. We haven’t done that. Our team has had great leadership from the coaches and captains and have thrived.

    I certainly don’t think that we will go undefeated, or even are Super Bowl bound, but the Vikings are a very good team that will be tough to play in January. They are well coached, scheme well, -are resourceful and don’t have any tendencies on O (which is good and bad). As Frank Booth said in another thread, “the team is like a guy hydra. One head gets chopped off and two more takes its place”.

  20. idurenn says:
    Oct 12, 2016 8:17 AM

    Of course there are concerns about his knee. The Vikings obviously saw something in him they liked, otherwise they wouldn’t have used the rest of their cap space $ on him.

    He won’t start right away anyways unless he’s absolutely unreal in practice, and lets face it. He won’t be, he’s been out of the league two years.

    Clemmings will continue to start for the next few week and if he continues to struggle, then Long might get a shot. MIGHT.

    A solid depth signing is all it is.
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    Ahh yea im going to stop you right that and tell you that in 11 days, long will be starting at left tackle, he played in 2014 and 2015 and got hurt. Long has 5 years under Coach Sperano and Clemming was rated the worst tackle in the NFL, Hes on the bench if long is healthy.

  21. cribbage12 says:
    Oct 11, 2016 11:33 PM
    —-Desperation and Jealousy is a stinky Cologne, you think Rodgers is magically going to re discover some form, face it, hes a check down Charlie relying on penalties and hard counts to move his offense, oh we heard it all last year wait till jordy gets back, yep it must really sting you that GB’s dynamic offense is rated 31st in the league, below a certain 1st place team starting a QB who wasn’t on the team till a few days before the season, missing both starting tackles, missing a HOF running back. Get over it, Rodgers is on his way down and denial is this trolls only logic.

  22. cribbage12:
    What do Long, Hill, Boone, Joseph, Asiata, both Johnsons, Berger, Munnerlyn, Sendejo, Newman, Sherels, and Smith have in common?

    They all play key roles on the Vikings, were not MN draft picks, contribute to the aged Vikings roster….
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    ROFL dude, i know this isn’t a concept that’s often talked about over there in the swamp, but that’s called “F-R-E-E A-G-E-N-C-Y”. It’s a way of improving your team.

    Your GM should check it out sometime. You’ll be wishing he had once the inevitable injuries start to hit and Beav has to start plugging undrafted rookies into starting roles.

  23. Sometimes I think that the biggest of Vikings and Packer trolls actually work for this site and say such asinine things in order to generate hits, comments and revenue.

  24. What do Long, Hill, Asiata, Johnson, Johnson, Berger and Smith have in common?

    Is the answer – they were all backups to Viking draft picks until injury?

    As far as Newman and Munnerlyn, their replacements are on the roster in Waynes and Alexander.

    Sherels – Undrafted FA signed by Minnesota.

    Yup, Joseph and Boone were signed to be starters like GB did with Guion (MN) and Peppers (Car).

  25. What would it matter? It’s not like this is the first time the Vikings signed some over the hill player who should be out of the league if it weren’t for the desperation of Spielman to appear like he’s doing something about it.

    It’s really unfortunate luck that the Vikings incur so many major injuries at the same position. But look at the bright side, it will provide fodder and excuses on not winning a Superbowl, for the 55th straight year.

  26. cribbage12 says:
    Oct 11, 2016 11:33 PM
    What do Long, Hill, Boone, Joseph, Asiata, both Johnsons, Berger, Munnerlyn, Sendejo, Newman, Sherels, and Smith have in common?

    They all play key roles on the Vikings, were not MN draft picks, contribute to the aged Vikings roster and allow Ricky Tick to fleece the fan base that he has a keen eye for college talent. Oh and they’ll inadvertently cause the house of cards to crumble within a few short years.

    This has been your bit of Vikings trivia for the day.
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    Looks like you lost at your own game. Only one smith on the roster, 1st round pick by the Vikings. Asiata, sherels, and hill UDFA directly to the Vikes out of college.
    As far as aging goes, here is my young replacement list already on the roster. Hill- stave or heinecke, Asiata- CJ Ham, Charles Johnson- treadwell, Tom Johnson- shamar stephen, munnerlyn- Alexander, Newman- Wayne’s.
    Also, Charles Johnson and linval are not at the end of their careers by any means.

    But great post bud.

  27. The Packers wins have been nail biters. If they do not get 16 calls not called on them in the first game . They lose that one. If Eli only played an average game they lose that one. Talk about things that cannot be sustained. That is it. I know it is hard. Maybe by the end of next year Jordy and his QB will be in sync. Meanwhile our QB is getting in sync with all of his WR and he has only been here 5 weeks.

    I give Rogers this he is the best QB at the following
    1) pulling DL offsides 2) run fakes 3) shuffling the feet and making 1 rusher miss and then gaining extra time to try to find someone 4) flops 5) whining to refs 6) and sticking his facemask on to players hand to get the flag

    The Vikings will have a 3 game lead over the pack by the half way point and will have clinched the division by week 13-14. Meanwhile the Packers will be hoping Roger can start hooking up with old Jordy soon cause their play-off hopes a getting slim. The Pack may indeed make the playoffs, it all depends on what the Rams, Cardinals, Panthers, Eagles do.

    Oh and this year when we beat you AGAIN in Lambo that will make it 3 in a row and perhaps the new reality will begin to sink in. Probably not it will probably take 5 in a row.

  28. But seriously, Rick is doing what he learned in Miami. Every one of those guys except Shaun Hill has an active and key role on the team regarding playing time. So 12 key players (not 3 or 5) from other teams have a spot on a team where the GM (whose main job is to draft) has failed…yes failed, to build young depth.
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    Cribbage12, you’re kidding right? Start at the offensive line in week 5 LT TJ Clemmings Drafted by Vikings, RG Fusco Drafted by Vikings, RT Sirles drafted by Vikings… RB Mckinnon Drafted by Vikings, Asiata Drafted by Vikings, WR Thielen Drafted by Vikings, Patterson Drafted by Vikings, Wright Drafted by Vikings, TE Drafted by Vikings, FB Line drafted by Vikings. On Offense that makes 8 out of the 11 starters all drafted by Vikings.

    Now for Defense – Defensive Line Robison, Stephen and Griffen all drafted by Vikings, LB’s Barr, Kendricks and Greenway all drafted by Vikings and DB’s Rhodes, Smith and Sandejo all drafted by Vikings. That makes 9 out of the 11 starters drafted by the Vikings. Throw in the kicker and punter and they too were all originally picked by the Vikings. Out of 24 starting positions 19 out of the 24 were drafted by the Vikings.

    What are you trying to get at?

  29. Packer fan’s don’t use logic or reasoning when they make posts. They twist stats to give their posts some vague semblance of coherence and then disappear when they are called to defend their blatantly false and idiotic claims.

  30. Phil load holt screwed the Vikings this year. He was a great player but he should have retired before, not after, the draft. That way the Vikings would have drafted his replacement, and not Treadwell, who has basically not seen the field yet.

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