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Brady’s big week ends with AFC Player of the Week honor

INDIANAPOLIS, IN - OCTOBER 18:  Tom Brady #12 of the New England Patriots gives instructions to his team during the game against the Indianapolis Colts at Lucas Oil Stadium on October 18, 2015 in Indianapolis, Indiana.  (Photo by Andy Lyons/Getty Images) Getty Images

Patriots quarterback Tom Brady is back, and he’s clearly still on top of his game.

On Wednesday, Brady was named AFC Offensive Player of the Week for his role in dismantling the Browns last weekend in Brady’s 2016 debut. Brady was 28-of-40 passing for 406 yards and three touchdowns, all three to Martellus Bennett. The Patriots scored touchdowns on their first three series of the game.

Brady went over 400 passing yards in a game for the eighth time. It was his second career game of over 400 yards while throwing three touchdowns and no interceptions. Afterwards, Brady admitted he was rusty after serving a four-game suspension to start the season.

The weekly award is the 26th of Brady’s career. He’s now just one behind Peyton Manning, whose 27 are the most ever.

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  1. TB12RALLYCRY says: Oct 12, 2016 9:42 AM

    Its only just begun…………….

  2. heisthejuan says: Oct 12, 2016 9:43 AM

    GOAT

  3. jjackwagon says: Oct 12, 2016 9:43 AM

    Nice of the NFL to give him the Browns to knock the rust off.

  4. kurdishpats1 says: Oct 12, 2016 9:45 AM

    All of Manning’s records will fall to Brady and Brees in the next couple of seasons.

    And I love it. Couldn’t stand that stat-padding ego-maniac.

    People want to say Brady plays in a bad division but ignore Manning playing the Titans, Texans, and JAGUARS for 15 years. Then chooses the Broncos because of the weak division they play in and an easy AFC West title.

    Not even going to mention playing 10-12 games a year in a dome…

  5. flash1287 says: Oct 12, 2016 9:46 AM

    Let the crying begin…

    But..but..but..it was the Browns.

    But..but..but..it’s just the system.

  6. harrisonhits2 says: Oct 12, 2016 9:46 AM

    First of several to come this season. Welcome back Tom.

  7. factschecker says: Oct 12, 2016 9:46 AM

    The weekly award is the 26th of Brady’s career. He’s now just one behind Peyton Manning, whose 27 are the most ever.
    ——-
    Merciful Heavens. Somebody must stop him. His fingernails are too long. Longer than regulation!

    He took 4 weeks to prepare for the Browns! That’s gotta be against the rules right?

  8. dpberke says: Oct 12, 2016 9:50 AM

    Hey Goodell….you and the NFL can keep your stupid awards.

    That crap is for losers. Super Bowl or bust! Your worst nightmare.

  9. grogansheroes says: Oct 12, 2016 9:51 AM

    Last week was nothing compared to what he is going to do to the Bungles.

  10. daddeeo says: Oct 12, 2016 9:52 AM

    Sug-it detractors! TB is one of the best to every play the game.

  11. mvp43 says: Oct 12, 2016 9:58 AM

    I’m sure Goodell is happy for Brady.

  12. tylawspick6 says: Oct 12, 2016 9:58 AM

    I heard the footballs were under-inflated, which is what Brady must have to throw a good football. It’s critical to his success and he’s nothing without it.

    It’s the secret recipe, didn’t ya know?

    Hey! Any word on the 2015 PSI readings you said you would record back in August of 2015?

    What about showing us when and where you met with Gomer about Guyer and what questions you asked him and for how long the “interview” lasted for?

    bawhaha

    abwahah!

  13. iamkillerfin says: Oct 12, 2016 9:58 AM

    cheater Brady played the Browns!!! Quit feeding the cheaters ego!!!

  14. goodguyattorney says: Oct 12, 2016 9:59 AM

    Like everyone not from the area, I hate the Patriots, but love this. Take that Roger.

  15. riraider says: Oct 12, 2016 10:03 AM

    Old and rusty my a$$

  16. tim8450 says: Oct 12, 2016 10:05 AM

    Wow, just think how it’s going to go down when he shakes off the rust.

  17. dcpatfan says: Oct 12, 2016 10:05 AM

    Tom “Terrific” Brady is the Undisputed Greatest Quarterback Of All Time.

    Its not even debatable at this point.

  18. spotsdad says: Oct 12, 2016 10:07 AM

    Who decides who gets these awards?.. Certainly not Roger or his ex Jet cronies… Maybe Roger will use his unlimited power to make a new rule stating nobody from New England can receive these awards.

  19. weepingjebus says: Oct 12, 2016 10:10 AM

    “Dah, I think his shoelaces look a bit funny.” — Grigson

  20. RandyinRoxbury says: Oct 12, 2016 10:11 AM

    We love our TB, greatest system QB of all time.

  21. zombiepatriot says: Oct 12, 2016 10:14 AM

    It’s good to have Brady back.

    195 Career Wins (06 until he surpasses 200 and is the all time winner)

    173 Career Regular Season Wins (14 until he surpasses 186 and is the all time winner)

    22 Career Playoff Wins (06 ahead of the second greatest QB ever Joe Montana)

  22. rolf1015 says: Oct 12, 2016 10:15 AM

    I have to give credit where credit is due.

    Roger Goodell shares in this honor – he allowed Brady to remain fresh early in the season and has provided Brady and the entire team enough motivation for the entire season and beyond.

    Thanks Roger, enjoy the ride!

  23. redskinsalways says: Oct 12, 2016 10:16 AM

    Brady can’t do what he does without Bill. He’s good but PEYTON is the GOAT.

    Not to mention there will always be an * associated with this shady team with all the cheating and all…

    lol

    Sit down fangirls…

  24. mazenblue says: Oct 12, 2016 10:17 AM

    Anyone who doesnt know Brady is GOAT is just a hater or someone with barely any knowledge of the game, or a noncompetitive wussy. Most of yall are haters. Thats cool, I get it.

  25. patsbrat says: Oct 12, 2016 10:21 AM

    A tad over 10 yards per attempt is outrageous – in a good way.

    In your face “two yard Tom” commenters – you know who you are…

  26. 315judman says: Oct 12, 2016 10:25 AM

    what’s he doing this time? His “success” seems to come with an *, or **, or ***, or ****. Dude’s a cheater!

    If he was innocent, he’d have taken it to the Supreme Court.

  27. fritz96 says: Oct 12, 2016 10:29 AM

    At best he’s in the conversation. Marino and Rodgers were more talented, Montana was better in the Super Bowls and had less playoff losses than Brady, Manning was more influential, Favre was more durable…etc… Also, having the greatest coach of all time didn’t hurt…

    “dcpatfan says:
    Oct 12, 2016 10:05 AM
    Tom “Terrific” Brady is the Undisputed Greatest Quarterback Of All Time.

    Its not even debatable at this point.”

  28. orrnumberfour says: Oct 12, 2016 10:30 AM

    The only real “system QB” is Joe Montana. His success is due only to the great Bill Walsh’s system. The fact that Montana’s successor also was successful under Walsh proves that it was all Walsh’s system. Montana is just your above average QB without it.

    Now, you see how your “system QB” arguments are so stupid Brady haters? Time to come back into the real world and acknowledge what 99% of intelligent fans know to be true. Tom Brady is the GOAT.

  29. greggallmansliver says: Oct 12, 2016 10:35 AM

    jjackwagon says:
    Oct 12, 2016 9:43 AM
    Nice of the NFL to give him the Browns to knock the rust off.
    —————————————————————–

    yes the NFL predicted that the Browns would start this game with their 3rd string QB (who wouldn’t make it through the game) after RGIII and McCown went down. And that their star receiver would go to rehab.

  30. nhpats says: Oct 12, 2016 10:39 AM

    kurdishpats1 says:
    Oct 12, 2016 9:45 AM
    All of Manning’s records will fall to Brady and Brees in the next couple of seasons.

    ————-

    Not Peyton’s dubious record for 1-and-dones….. The only potential QB to overtake that record is the red-headed guy in Cincinnati

  31. harrisonhits2 says: Oct 12, 2016 10:42 AM

    “cheater Brady played the Browns!!! Quit feeding the cheaters ego!!!”

    Always good to see a Fins fan crying cheater. The Fins have the longest and most extensive cheating history of any team in the league since the merger.

    Starting with the original NFL scandal when Shula cheated by negotiating a contract with the Fins while he was still under contract with Baltimore. Before he went on to numerous other cheating incidents with the Fins.

    SMH that’s called a double standard by the way and invalidates any complaint you have about the Pats.

  32. dirtyback says: Oct 12, 2016 10:42 AM

    Big Ben had a better week against a better opponent. 4 TDs and 380 passing yards.

  33. 12coltsfan12 says: Oct 12, 2016 10:44 AM

    CHECK THE PSI!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
    😥

  34. tylawspick6 says: Oct 12, 2016 10:47 AM

    The funny part of this is the little Millennials who think Montana was the best and never saw the guy play, but yet we’re supposed to listen to their uneducated word on the matter.

    If Brady didn’t play in the cap era, he’d have 6 or 7 rings by now, and if there wasn’t a cheating commissioner, he’d probably have 8.

    Brady runs a Hybrid offense which is a mix of the Perkins/Earhardt school mixed in with thge Coryell/Walsh system which essentially became a more drilled down version of Coryell’s.

    Enjoy the greatest QB ever to play for however many more years he has.

    Manning will be left in the dust, for many, many reasons, if he hasn’t already been.

  35. footballfanatic says: Oct 12, 2016 10:51 AM

    Garroplolo had 70% completion rate, 3 tds and 0 int’s in ONLY 26 minutes of play against a better Dolphins team. So tom needing all game to get to 3 td’s against a worse team like the Browns hardly seems amazing. How many ppl need to succeed in that spot before ppl realize Tom isnt great, his situation is great. Jimmy is a backup and was dominating. A 3rd string ROOKIE is holding his own with stats as qb. Matt Cassell, a guy who couldn’t make the bills roster recently had pretty good season and won 11 games with only 11 int’s ALL SEASON for the patriots. So tom can get you 13 wins, terrific. Getting you only two more wins than some career journeyman doesn’t seem too amazing to me.

  36. blessedunliketherest says: Oct 12, 2016 10:51 AM

    Brady can’t do what he does without Bill. He’s good but PEYTON is the GOAT.

    Not to mention there will always be an * associated with this shady team with all the cheating and all…

    lol

    Sit down fangirls…
    _________________________________________

    I don’t understand. Is it Bill out there making reads? Running routes? Catching passes? By that logic then, Manning could not do what he did without Wayne, Harrison, Clark, Thomas, Decker, etc. etc.

    Manning was a great QB. But he is not even #2. This isn’t fan talk. This is logic and supported by 99% of people out there who know what they are talking about. You cannot have Manning’s playoff numbers and be considered the GOAT. Ask any player/coach/ex-player if they would rather have better regular season stats or playoff stats. The answer is pretty clear.

    Drop the cheater crap too. Its a tired narrative. 15 years of sustained success breeds jealously, which is exactly what your comment is. Manning took HGH, yet no one is calling his accomplishments into question.

  37. Nofoolnodrool says: Oct 12, 2016 10:54 AM

    orrnumberfour says:
    Oct 12, 2016 10:30 AM
    The only real “system QB” is Joe Montana. His success is due only to the great Bill Walsh’s system. The fact that Montana’s successor also was successful under Walsh proves that it was all Walsh’s system. Montana is just your above average QB without it.

    Now, you see how your “system QB” arguments are so stupid Brady haters? Time to come back into the real world and acknowledge what 99% of intelligent fans know to be true. Tom Brady is the GOAT.

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    It’s so refreshing reading the comments in their totally unbiased nature……eye rolling.
    Having watched the NFL for nearly 60 years I have to say Brady is one of the best of his era. You can’t compare today’s QBs with the past because the rules are so different. I have a picture in my mind of blood streaming down YA Tittles bald head and comparing him to a Tutu wearing don’t touch me dink and dunking Tammy Brady and you can see how ridiculous saying he is the Goat. For today he is the best….but just for today and he looks wicked Pissah in his clean Tutu.

  38. thelastwordyaheard says: Oct 12, 2016 10:54 AM

    Brady still shooting lasers 4oyds down field ..Manning could barely muster a 10yd dig route at 39.

  39. thermanmerman99 says: Oct 12, 2016 10:55 AM

    Now david PED King Ortiz can give tammy hair plugs and UGGS the rest of his PEDs he didn’t use after getting swept out of the playoffs to retirement. Maybe Ortiz can be his PED ballboy

  40. bassicdave says: Oct 12, 2016 10:55 AM

    I SAW IT!

    I saw that string on the ball that guided it directly into his receiver’s hands! I swear it was there!

    What, nurse? Time for my meds?

  41. nhpats says: Oct 12, 2016 10:57 AM

    #TheHaters are beside themselves……except for those who are fans of the Bills…..they are still celebrating their SB win against the Pats…

  42. fritz96 says: Oct 12, 2016 10:57 AM

    Joe Montana is the GOAT. He only played 9 years on a SB contender and won 4 SBs with the best QB rating in history. He also had much tougher competition. Brady never faced teams as good as the 80s Bears, Redskins or Belichik/Parcells Giants. And Montana’s successor, Steve Young was one of the most talented QBs ever.

    “The only real “system QB” is Joe Montana. His success is due only to the great Bill Walsh’s system. The fact that Montana’s successor also was successful under Walsh proves that it was all Walsh’s system. Montana is just your above average QB without it.”

  43. elevandoo says: Oct 12, 2016 10:59 AM

    Looks like alex guerrero performed his magic. Guys running around feeling like a 29 year old again.

  44. Nofoolnodrool says: Oct 12, 2016 10:59 AM

    tylawspick6 says:
    Oct 12, 2016 10:47 AM
    The funny part of this is the little Millennials who think Montana was the best and never saw the guy play, but yet we’re supposed to listen to their uneducated word on the matter.

    If Brady didn’t play in the cap era, he’d have 6 or 7 rings by now, and if there wasn’t a cheating commissioner, he’d probably have 8.

    Brady runs a Hybrid offense which is a mix of the Perkins/Earhardt school mixed in with thge Coryell/Walsh system which essentially became a more drilled down version of Coryell’s.

    Enjoy the greatest QB ever to play for however many more years he has.

    Manning will be left in the dust, for many, many reasons, if he hasn’t already been.

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    Talk about a biased comment…. Brady’s receivers would have gotten,killed back in the day as would Brady himself. Brady hates to get hit and would have been hit a lot back in the day. While Brady is good today with yesterday’s rules he would have played basketball or baseball,instead.

  45. footballfanatic says: Oct 12, 2016 11:01 AM

    harrisonhits2 says:
    Oct 12, 2016 10:42 AM

    LOL your comparing minor infractions to a team who has the TWO largest cheating penalties in the history of the NFL. Boston Logic: i stole a car, but you stole a piece of gum so we are both cheaters and on the same level. There are varying levels of cheating, and it just so happens the Patriots hold the two biggest cheating fines/penalties of any team in the history of the game.

  46. xxsweepthelegxx says: Oct 12, 2016 11:02 AM

    fritz96 says:
    Oct 12, 2016 10:29 AM

    At best he’s in the conversation. Marino and Rodgers were more talented, Montana was better in the Super Bowls and had less playoff losses than Brady, Manning was more influential, Favre was more durable…etc… Also, having the greatest coach of all time didn’t hurt…
    ———-
    more talented physically? sure. but that doesn’t equate to wins, that’s what it’s all about. By that logic JaMarcus Russell is better than Brady.

    “Montana had less playoff losses”- sure. So making it to the AFCCCG and SB is losing is somehow worse than Montana not even making it to the playoffs? Not to mention Tom usually has his team in position to not even be playing in the Wild Card rounds against lesser opponents.

    “More Durable” – Look, Favre, Manning (both) are durable but so is Brady. He missed an entire year when his knee was blown out. That’s it. Not sure I see that argument.

    “Greatest Coach of All Time” – I’ve got nothing for you, haha, BB is the greatest. But Walsh, Noll, Cowler were all good too. Manning to his credit probably played with the worst coaches

  47. RandyinRoxbury says: Oct 12, 2016 11:06 AM

    I love Tom Brady as much as my fellow Pats fans but try to be honest and a little objective, Tom is great no doubt but is he better than Montana, Bradshaw or Staubach?
    No, he is fortunate to have a great coach who is the real reason for his success, would Brady be this good under other NFL head coaches?
    Of course not, great QB is an ultra great system, its that simple.

  48. bassicdave says: Oct 12, 2016 11:06 AM

    If I hear the word “system” again, I’ll puke.

    EVERY coach has a system including YOUR coach. Just because your coach sucks and your QB sucks, or the coach rammed his system down the throat of a good QB whose style is incompatible.

    Or, you have a coach with the wisdom to build a system around his QB’s strengths, and those of the rest of the team, no matter who’s on the field.

    Meet Bill Belichick.

  49. las0023 says: Oct 12, 2016 11:08 AM

    He’s probably the best candidate, but it’s hard to call anyone the GOAT with so many different circumstances. Unitas and Starr played in a different era than Montana who played in a different era than today’s QBs. Montana and Brady had a lot more playoff success than Peyton Manning, but they also had 2 of the best coaches in history. Manning played most of his career for coaches who have all been fired in the past 5 years (Caldwell, Fox, Kubiak). At the same time I’ve seen Aaron Rodgers make passes that Brady, Montana, and Manning never could.

    “Joe Montana is the GOAT. He only played 9 years on a SB contender and won 4 SBs with the best QB rating in history. He also had much tougher competition. Brady never faced teams as good as the 80s Bears, Redskins or Belichik/Parcells Giants. And Montana’s successor, Steve Young was one of the most talented QBs ever.”

  50. mmack66 says: Oct 12, 2016 11:11 AM

    redskinsalways says:
    Oct 12, 2016 10:16 AM

    Brady can’t do what he does without Bill. He’s good but PEYTON is the GOAT.
    ————————-

    I agree. Peyton Manning is the GOAT, at losing postseason games, that is.

    Manning barely participated in either of the two SB wins he has, and was no where to be found in the SB XLVIII loss.

  51. thetooloftools says: Oct 12, 2016 11:16 AM

    Roger, if your going to continue to hate on this guy, this is the perfect reason.

  52. chippys lost binky says: Oct 12, 2016 11:20 AM

    fritz96 says:
    Oct 12, 2016 10:29 AM
    At best he’s in the conversation. Marino and Rodgers were more talented, Montana was better in the Super Bowls and had less playoff losses than Brady,
    +++++++++++++++

    I can’t fairly say who the best of the SB era is because it’s divided into 2 parts. Montana was the best of his era and Brady the best of his. It’s impossible to fairly compare pre and post cap players, but the SB and playoff loss comparison of Montana vs Brady is truly weak stuff. Yes Montana never lost a SB but that is because he failed to get there as often. Your argument rewards Montana for:

    Not getting to the playoffs 4 times vs Brady’s 1 when both were healthy.

    Losing earlier in the playoffs than Brady with 4 one and done’s vs 2

    A career playoff win pct of .696 vs .710

  53. patsfan4lifesbchamps says: Oct 12, 2016 11:22 AM

    Brady will go down as the greatest SYSTEM QB of all time. Jimmy G and Brissette have little chance of taking that title from Brady simply because they won’t get the opportunity to work with Belichick for over 15 years the way Brady was lucky to do. Belichick is 64 years old and most likely will retire soon.

    It’s important to take time and appreciate how great the Patriots system truly is. It is so great a high school QB can have success in it. There will never be another system quite like it.

  54. weepingjebus says: Oct 12, 2016 11:26 AM

    Don’t forget that Peyton also had the fastest score in SB history — it just happened to be for the other team.

  55. harrisonhits2 says: Oct 12, 2016 11:31 AM

    “LOL your comparing minor infractions to a team who has the TWO largest cheating penalties in the history of the NFL. Boston Logic: i stole a car, but you stole a piece of gum so we are both cheaters and on the same level. There are varying levels of cheating, and it just so happens the Patriots hold the two biggest cheating fines/penalties of any team in the history of the game.”

    Uh no. The Fins were docked their first round pick which was given to Baltimore for the cheating in the Fins stealing Shula.

    Futhermore Shula was involved in numerous cheating incidents that are well documented.

    Last, according to you Pats haters cheating is cheating and you don’t get to come back now and whine that the Fins somehow “cheated less than the Pats”. This goes far past a couple “minor incidents” Miami has a long and well documented history of cheating.

    But its also the Pats haters way to claim their team are choir boys and the mean ol’ Pats are so naughty.

    You guys live on a double standard.

  56. rolf1015 says: Oct 12, 2016 11:31 AM

    Post-season records:

    BRADY 22-9 (.710)
    6 AFC titles, 4 Super Bowl titles
    Regular Season winning pct .772

    MONTANA 16-7 (.696)
    4 NFC titles, 4 Super Bowl titles
    Regular Season winning pct .713

    MANNING 14-13 (.519)
    4 AFC titles, 2 Super Bowl titles
    Regular Season winning pct .702

    Brady and Montana are close, but Brady (and Manning) did this in the salary cap era. Brady had a completely different roster in 2014 vs. 2001. Montana did this with mostly the same great players year after year until leaving SF.

    IMO Brady is already the GOAT, with no end in sight…

  57. honkeyt says: Oct 12, 2016 11:32 AM

    Carr….again.

  58. crownofthehelmet says: Oct 12, 2016 11:34 AM

    Big Ben got robbed. And when their careers are over, Ben will be the more accomplished QB. Bet on it.

  59. whywerule says: Oct 12, 2016 11:39 AM

    If Canton has not yet broken ground on the Tom Brady Wing of the Hall-of-Fame, then they should probably get started. That wing is going to have to be huge to hold the history of all of the awards and accolades for Tom Brady, the Greatest NFL Player of All-Time. Even if the Greatest, Tom Brady, plays for another five years, and thus does not get elected into the HOF for ten years, that wing will be so large it will take some time to build.

  60. sjl1970 says: Oct 12, 2016 11:40 AM

    315judman says:
    Oct 12, 2016 10:25 AM
    what’s he doing this time? His “success” seems to come with an *, or **, or ***, or ****. Dude’s a cheater!

    If he was innocent, he’d have taken it to the Supreme Court.
    =====
    If the timing were different with regards to the start of the season, I am sure he would have taken it to the SCOTUS.

  61. beachsidejames says: Oct 12, 2016 11:43 AM

    He earned it. Being out to then come back and throw for 400 I’d say he absolutely earned it.

  62. las0023 says: Oct 12, 2016 11:46 AM

    For all the people claiming Brady is the GOAT based on team accomplishments… name another QB who played 15 years for one of the greatest teams and coaches in history.

  63. terripet says: Oct 12, 2016 11:53 AM

    Not bad for playing a pop warner team

  64. fritz96 says: Oct 12, 2016 11:57 AM

    Irrelevant, the Patriots management gave Brady great teams his entire career. Doesn’t matter if the players were different. Regardless, the 49ers were almost a completely different team in 1989 compared to 1981.

    “Brady and Montana are close, but Brady (and Manning) did this in the salary cap era. Brady had a completely different roster in 2014 vs. 2001. Montana did this with mostly the same great players year after year until leaving SF.”

  65. LyinRogerMustGo says: Oct 12, 2016 11:59 AM

    The only real “system QB” is Joe Montana. His success is due only to the great Bill Walsh’s system. The fact that Montana’s successor also was successful under Walsh proves that it was all Walsh’s system. Montana is just your above average QB without it.

    —-
    I think it’s interesting that Montana has never won a Super Bowl without a top 8 ranked defense.🙂

  66. shadywarrior says: Oct 12, 2016 12:04 PM

    Damn, it feels good to be a gangsta…

  67. bryonneufeld says: Oct 12, 2016 12:05 PM

    The idea that Roger G. has something against Tom Brady is just silly.

    Deflategate was about positioning the NFL with more leverage for the next round of CBA negotiations. The league felt they had a right to administer punishment, and they wanted to protect that right to keep a certain level of leverage against the NFLPA.

    Probably at the next CBA negotiations, the league will offer to back off on that area if they players give up something in return.

  68. blessedunliketherest says: Oct 12, 2016 12:10 PM

    For all the people claiming Brady is the GOAT based on team accomplishments… name another QB who played 15 years for one of the greatest teams and coaches in history.
    _________________________________________

    The same people who say this also like to point out that the Mannings “own” Brady in meaningful games. Why is it only a team accomplishment when Brady wins? Brady own the overall record against all the Mannings combined. It has also taken two generations and 3 total Mannings to match Brady in SB wins and MVPs.

    Regardless, that’s a baseless argument. Most people claim Brady is the GOAT based on his own accomplishments. He is top 3 in most statistical categories and owns every meaningful post season record. That’s not even getting into wins, SB titles, etc.

  69. throwingstones20 says: Oct 12, 2016 12:11 PM

    How many different offensive coordinators have the Patriots had while Brady was there?

  70. alltee says: Oct 12, 2016 12:23 PM

    For all the people claiming Brady is the GOAT based on team accomplishments… name another QB who played 15 years for one of the greatest teams and coaches in history.

    =========================================

    you are right no qb played 15 years for the greatest coach in history, and montana playing under bill walsh the greatest coach of his era for ten years doesn’t count, because one it wasnt 15 years and two it was only for the greatest coach of his era and not the greatest coach ever

    great logic, all the great QB”s werent associated to great coaches

    now go cry yourself to sleep while the GOAT continues to steam roll opponents

  71. flash1287 says: Oct 12, 2016 12:25 PM

    las0023 says:
    Oct 12, 2016 11:46 AM
    For all the people claiming Brady is the GOAT based on team accomplishments… name another QB who played 15 years for one of the greatest teams and coaches in history.

    Why is there this false narrative that “only Patriot fans” call Brady the GOAT?

    It’s not just Patriots fans listen to any former or current coach or former or current player. Pretty much ALL of them say he is the best or top 2.

    And it’s not just based on “team accomplishments”

  72. saintdatazz says: Oct 12, 2016 12:26 PM

    Come on it was against the browns. He didn’t deserve it; there was better performances against stronger opponents.

  73. whywerule says: Oct 12, 2016 12:29 PM

    throwingstones20 says:
    Oct 12, 2016 12:11 PM
    How many different offensive coordinators have the Patriots had while Brady was there?

    Charlie Weis
    McDaniels
    Bill O’Brien
    McDaniels again

    There were two or three years in there where there was no official Offensive Coordinator although Coaches like McDaniels, and/or O’Brien were around at that time with lesser titles.

  74. inbillwetrust says: Oct 12, 2016 12:42 PM

    so basically when the haters say he is only so good because he is a “system qb” they are saying their team’s organization is not smart enough to just run the same “system”.. Because then every team would have a Tom Brady! And every team would dominate for 15 years!

    LOL

  75. joetoronto says: Oct 12, 2016 12:42 PM

    Why would the league give him this award? Don’t they hate him?

  76. veddermn8 says: Oct 12, 2016 12:47 PM

    las0023 says:
    Oct 12, 2016 11:46 AM
    For all the people claiming Brady is the GOAT based on team accomplishments… name another QB who played 15 years for one of the greatest teams and coaches in history.

    ……….

    Belichick is only 19-18 in Pats career without Brady starting. Some might say that proves Brady must have had something to do with it…

    Longevity is a bogus argument against a player or a coach, especially in the NFL where average careers are shortest in sports. Its a compliment to how good they both are.

  77. p6one6 says: Oct 12, 2016 12:52 PM

    Not bad considering they were coasting once they made it to 30 points.

  78. pastabelly says: Oct 12, 2016 12:52 PM

    Interesting note by Dan Koppen who played center in front of Brady and Manning. Brady called formations on both passing and running plays and moved around players. On Denver, Koppen had to call running formations. Brady does control all ends of his “system”. Brady’s system is a system that works bests for him and allows him to exploit opposing defenses. His recognition and awareness make him a coach on the field. You put that together with physical skills and leadership and you do get one of the greatest players ever in the game. He never really loses on his mistakes. It takes great defenses to slow him down.

  79. mmack66 says: Oct 12, 2016 1:00 PM

    crownofthehelmet says:
    Oct 12, 2016 11:34 AM

    Big Ben got robbed. And when their careers are over, Ben will be the more accomplished QB. Bet on it.
    —————————-

    Got robbed of what? Some meaningless award?

  80. maust1013 says: Oct 12, 2016 1:00 PM

    fritz96 says:
    Oct 12, 2016 11:57 AM
    Irrelevant, the Patriots management gave Brady great teams his entire career. Doesn’t matter if the players were different. Regardless, the 49ers were almost a completely different team in 1989 compared to 1981.
    ===================

    There’s a circular argument, it’s irrelevant because the Pats “gave Brady great teams his entire career” (they didn’t, take a look at the skill players on those teams from ’01-’06) but somehow it matters that “the 49ers were almost a completely different team in 1989 compared to 1981” even though they were truly great teams. The fact remains that those Niners teams had the ability to keep the best of their roster intact year after year with no real free agency and no salary cap, NE did not. The 2 eras can’t be compared.
    The only true comparison of Brady & Montana is how did they each do in comparison to their peers playing under the same conditions and rules. In terms of winning they each dominated their eras in a way none of their peers did. When it comes to winning Montana is the best QB of the pre FA and cap SB era, Brady is the best of the cap era. Both of their individual stats will be shredded in the future thanks to the patty cake era but their winning %’s and playoff success will stand the test of time.

  81. las0023 says: Oct 12, 2016 1:03 PM

    “you are right no qb played 15 years for the greatest coach in history, and montana playing under bill walsh the greatest coach of his era for ten years doesn’t count”

    If Montana had another 5 years with Walsh’s 49ers he would have won at least 1 more SB.

    “Longevity is a bogus argument against a player or a coach, especially in the NFL where average careers are shortest in sports. Its a compliment to how good they both are.”

    Having longevity is today’s NFL isn’t the same as when Montana played and players got hit more often.

    “Regardless, that’s a baseless argument. Most people claim Brady is the GOAT based on his own accomplishments. He is top 3 in most statistical categories and owns every meaningful post season record”

    Brady isn’t even in the top 10 in career regular season QB ratings and in playoff ratings he’s 15th and tied with Peyton Manning. The only argument in Brady’s favor is team accomplishments and being the only player to have 15 years on one of the greatest franchises with the greatest head coach is a big contributor to that.

  82. charger383 says: Oct 12, 2016 1:05 PM

    Take that, Roger Cheatall

  83. rollotomasi14 says: Oct 12, 2016 1:13 PM

    “I have to downplay a player’s accomplishments because I have no talent of my own and my team sucks”

    Patriot haters are hilarious.

  84. dsigrey says: Oct 12, 2016 1:17 PM

    las0023 says:
    Oct 12, 2016 1:03 PM

    Brady isn’t even in the top 10 in career regular season QB ratings and in playoff ratings he’s 15th and tied with Peyton Manning. The only argument in Brady’s favor is team accomplishments and being the only player to have 15 years on one of the greatest franchises with the greatest head coach is a big contributor to that.
    ________________________
    because we all know QBR is the most important thing. Brady is the leader of nearly every list you can think of. Look it up, it’s not hard.

  85. patsfan4lifesbchamps says: Oct 12, 2016 1:17 PM

    pastabelly says:
    Oct 12, 2016 12:52 PM
    Interesting note by Dan Koppen who played center in front of Brady and Manning. Brady called formations on both passing and running plays and moved around players. On Denver, Koppen had to call running formations. Brady does control all ends of his “system”. Brady’s system is a system that works bests for him and allows him to exploit opposing defenses. His recognition and awareness make him a coach on the field. You put that together with physical skills and leadership and you do get one of the greatest players ever in the game. He never really loses on his mistakes. It takes great defenses to slow him down.

    ———-

    A high school QB could do the same. A high school QB can “call a running formation”. In the Patriots system a QB is expected to execute plays given to them by the offensive coordinator and Belichick. The plays are written on their wrist playbook band. So why Brady gets credit for something Garoppolo, Brissette, Cassel, or even a high school QB can do?

  86. wensink18 says: Oct 12, 2016 1:27 PM

    The Patriots just run a system. Anybody could do it. The system is called “winning” and involves having a superior football team over the opponent. Other teams in the league should try it some time instead of the “losing” system they like to run against the Pats…

  87. Lemmy Aksyadis says: Oct 12, 2016 1:27 PM

    12coltsfan12 says:
    Oct 12, 2016 10:44 AM
    CHECK THE PSI!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

    We’ll need a few colt lackeys with hidden gauges and a duplicitous ref first.

  88. j0esixpack says: Oct 12, 2016 1:27 PM

    The outcome of Framegate thus far

    1. ) Brady – the GOAT – hasn’t played in a month and is still NFL Player of the Week

    2.) Thanks to Goodell, Garoppolo is now a commodity tradeable for a minimum of a 1st and 4th round pick if not more – replacing the draft picks that Goodell corruptly took away

    3.) The Pats also have a potential QB of the future (or additional trade fodder) in Brissette

    4.) Brady is rested with the 4-1 team seemingly ready to cruise into the playoffs in search of a 5th ring for the thumb

    So the net effect may be Super Bowl #5 – plus the Patriots finding their franchise QB for the next 15 years

    Way to go Roger – I tend to think that the corrupt owners who wanted Brady and the Pats out of the way aren’t all that happy with you.

    NFL fans sure aren’t as the ratings continue to drop

  89. Rdog says: Oct 12, 2016 1:32 PM

    Mariota deserved it more

  90. blessedunliketherest says: Oct 12, 2016 1:32 PM

    Brady isn’t even in the top 10 in career regular season QB ratings and in playoff ratings he’s 15th and tied with Peyton Manning. The only argument in Brady’s favor is team accomplishments and being the only player to have 15 years on one of the greatest franchises with the greatest head coach is a big contributor to that.
    __________________________________________

    Wrong in every sense of the word. Brady owns the record for TDs, yards, completions, wins, etc. in the playoffs. I would say those are some pretty meaningful non-team accomplishments, wouldn’t you?

    The length haters go to try and discredit Brady is hilarious. They have absolutely no clue and spew the worst arguments that a 5th grader could shut down. The guy works hard, wins, makes everyone around him great, and is the undisputed GOAT. Cherry picking one stat here or there does not make for a compelling argument.

  91. The Almighty Cabbage says: Oct 12, 2016 1:34 PM

    Brady certainly has to be in the conversation for G.O.A.T. but it’s just too hard to compare guys from different eras because of the different rules they had to contend with.

    I’d be willing to say Brady is the greatest of this era (thus far) but I don’t know how in the world you’d compare him to Starr, or Unitas, or Montana, or Otto Graham, Etc.

    I know a bunch of blind haters will jump all over this but that only speaks poorly of those haters. Believe it or not, you can acknowledge a great player even if you aren’t a fan of that player or the team for which he plays.

    ~Not a Patriots fan~

  92. maust1013 says: Oct 12, 2016 1:42 PM

    las0023 says:
    Oct 12, 2016 1:03 PM

    If Montana had another 5 years with Walsh’s 49ers he would have won at least 1 more SB.

    Having longevity is today’s NFL isn’t the same as when Montana played and players got hit more often.
    =================

    If’s are just that, if Brady had played with the skill position talent Montana had he would absolutely have more rings.

    Due to the increased number of attempts per game today’s QB’s actually get hit more often. Montana averaged 21.62 sacks a season with the Niners, Brady has averaged 28.7.

  93. veddermn8 says: Oct 12, 2016 1:45 PM

    If anyone QB could lead the Pats and be successful, why is Belichick only 19-18 without Brady starting for him?

  94. flash1287 says: Oct 12, 2016 1:45 PM

    patsfan4lifesbchamps says:
    Oct 12, 2016 1:17

    A high school QB could do the same. A high school QB can “call a running formation”. In the Patriots system a QB is expected to execute plays given to them by the offensive coordinator and Belichick. The plays are written on their wrist playbook band. So why Brady gets credit for something Garoppolo, Brissette, Cassel, or even a high school QB can do?

    Yeah guy, it’s just stupid at this point

  95. superpatriotsfan says: Oct 12, 2016 1:58 PM

    veddermn8 says:
    Oct 12, 2016 1:45 PM
    If anyone QB could lead the Pats and be successful, why is Belichick only 19-18 without Brady starting for him?
    ———————
    You forget about Pats homer’s logic

    After 3-0 “We can win with any QB”

    After 3-1 “We would have won if Brady played”

  96. mmack66 says: Oct 12, 2016 2:09 PM

    Brady isn’t even in the top 10 in career regular season QB ratings and in playoff ratings he’s 15th and tied with Peyton Manning.
    ———————

    Manning and Brady are tied at 5 in career regular season passer ratings.

    Of course that is passer rating, and not that ridiculous ESPN QBR nonsense.

  97. ftomasic1961 says: Oct 12, 2016 2:20 PM

    G.O.A.T.??????? eli owns your g.o.a.t when it counts, twice in the SB…..

  98. raylewisandhisteeth says: Oct 12, 2016 2:21 PM

    dirtyback says:
    Oct 12, 2016 10:42 AM
    Big Ben had a better week against a better opponent. 4 TDs and 380 passing yards.

    Exactly.

  99. veddermn8 says: Oct 12, 2016 2:33 PM

    superpatriotsfan says:
    Oct 12, 2016 1:58 PM

    You forget about Pats homer’s logic

    After 3-0 “We can win with any QB”

    After 3-1 “We would have won if Brady played”

    ………..

    I’ve seen more anti-Pats/Brady fans making that “point” than homers. Either way, it doesn’t hold up to the fact that Belichick has a 19-18 record without Brady starting.

  100. dsigrey says: Oct 12, 2016 2:53 PM

    Most of you trolls have no idea what you’re talking about, no real knowledge of the game of football.

  101. thevoice0freason says: Oct 12, 2016 2:57 PM

    “las0023 says:
    Oct 12, 2016 1:03 PM

    Brady isn’t even in the top 10 in career regular season QB ratings and in playoff ratings he’s 15th and tied with Peyton Manning. The only argument in Brady’s favor is team accomplishments and being the only player to have 15 years on one of the greatest franchises with the greatest head coach is a big contributor to that.”

    And coincidentally Brady’s regular season QB rating (96.7 and climbing) is exactly the same as “the greatest regular season QB of all time” (Peyton).

  102. stevegrogannakedbootleg says: Oct 12, 2016 3:09 PM

    Cue the duckboats.

  103. justafanofnfl says: Oct 12, 2016 3:23 PM

    The Patriots have been tied or behind in the 4th quarter of 18 out of 31 Tom Brady starts in the playoffs. 22-9 GOAT!

  104. nhpats says: Oct 12, 2016 3:33 PM

    patsfan4lifesbchamps says:
    Oct 12, 2016 1:17

    A high school QB could do the same. A high school QB can “call a running formation”. In the Patriots system a QB is expected to execute plays given to them by the offensive coordinator and Belichick. The plays are written on their wrist playbook band. So why Brady gets credit for something Garoppolo, Brissette, Cassel, or even a high school QB can do?

    —————-

    Then why can’t your Jets do the same?

  105. jmdanieli says: Oct 12, 2016 3:37 PM

    Tom Brady unlike HGH Manning has NEVER been embarrassed in a Super Bowl, NEVER. Yes Tom may have lost 2 of his 6 Super Bowl games, but I repeat again ,has NEVER been embarrassed like Denver was in their 43-8 loss against Seattle. Seattle ,the same team that Tom rallied from 14 points behind in the 4th quarter to beat, to win his 4th Super Bowl.
    That should end the GOAT discussion!! No question it’s Tom.

  106. justbegbaby says: Oct 12, 2016 3:45 PM

    Wow, he may be retired, but Peyton Manning still casts a long shadow on the board. LOL!

  107. justafanofnfl says: Oct 12, 2016 4:16 PM

    The Patriots have been tied or behind in the 4th quarter of every Superbowl they have played. 4 and 2 with the GOAT!

  108. mmack66 says: Oct 12, 2016 4:31 PM

    patsfan4lifesbchamps says:
    Oct 12, 2016 1:17

    In the Patriots system a QB is expected to execute plays given to them by the offensive coordinator and Belichick.
    ———————–

    Like every other quarterback is, in every other system? That’s the secret to the Patriots success?

    Since the Patriots are perennially successful, I would have though that some other team would catch on to this easy system by now.

  109. rootpain says: Oct 12, 2016 4:34 PM

    pastabelly says:
    Oct 12, 2016 12:52 PM
    Interesting note by Dan Koppen who played center in front of Brady and Manning. Brady called formations on both passing and running plays and moved around players. On Denver, Koppen had to call running formations. Brady does control all ends of his “system”. Brady’s system is a system that works bests for him and allows him to exploit opposing defenses. His recognition and awareness make him a coach on the field. You put that together with physical skills and leadership and you do get one of the greatest players ever in the game. He never really loses on his mistakes. It takes great defenses to slow him down.
    ==========================
    One of the most informative posts I’ve read in a long time. It’s certainly a unique perspective and pretty compelling. Thanks for sharing it.

  110. maust1013 says: Oct 12, 2016 4:46 PM

    ftomasic1961 says:
    Oct 12, 2016 2:20 PM
    G.O.A.T.??????? eli owns your g.o.a.t when it counts, twice in the SB…..
    ===================

    And Montana lost NFCCG’s to Jeff F Hostetler and Joe Theismann somehow that is better?

  111. lanman11 says: Oct 12, 2016 4:51 PM

    Had Hogan not slowed down to look behind him on that bomb, where he then got tripped up from behind at the 5 yd line, it would have been 4 straight TD’s to start the game/season.

  112. ampatsisahypocrite says: Oct 12, 2016 5:09 PM

    In other news, Steeler fans did NOT engage in a week-long crying fest even though their QB put up about the same QB rating and threw for one more TD.

  113. ibillwt says: Oct 12, 2016 9:00 PM

    No matter which records Brady or Manning finish with, everyone knows which one was clutch in the biggest moments and who always gagged.

    Beyond the indisputable fact that Brady has the rings, what’s more impressive is that even in the tough losses, Brady did more than his part.

    Whereas even in Manning’s two wins, he wet the bed. And in the losses, well let’s just say he ought to be shilling Exlax instead of pizza.

  114. las0023 says: Oct 12, 2016 9:35 PM

    The Patriots last 3 AFC championship game losses came on Brady interceptions. The last one was particularly sad. Brady had Gronk wide open in the end zone but threw into double coverage and got picked off instead.

    “No matter which records Brady or Manning finish with, everyone knows which one was clutch in the biggest moments and who always gagged.”

  115. 46namredyps11 says: Oct 12, 2016 10:29 PM

    If all goes well this happens 11 more times.

  116. fritz96 says: Oct 12, 2016 11:42 PM

    The Patriots last 3 AFC championship game losses came on Brady interceptions. The last one was particularly sad. Brady had Gronk wide open in the end zone but threw into double coverage and got picked off instead.

    “No matter which records Brady or Manning finish with, everyone knows which one was clutch in the biggest moments and who always gagged.”

  117. veddermn8 says: Oct 13, 2016 11:08 AM

    fritz96 says:
    Oct 12, 2016 11:42 PM

    The Patriots last 3 AFC championship game losses came on Brady interceptions. The last one was particularly sad. Brady had Gronk wide open in the end zone but threw into double coverage and got picked off instead.

    “No matter which records Brady or Manning finish with, everyone knows which one was clutch in the biggest moments and who always gagged.”
    ……

    Brady single handedly clawed the Pats back into last years AFC title game after being hit more times in a game than any other QB in any game all of last season. His line was in shambles and Gostowski missing an extra point were the back breakers. It ended with a bad pass, but its ridiculous to say Brady was the problem that day.

    Also Brady owns the NFL record for playoff 4th quarter comebacks.

  118. sn19 says: Oct 19, 2016 1:55 PM

    This Bears fan is constantly cheering for Brady at this point. The more the league comes down on them, the harder I pull for them.

  119. bdevil1952 says: Oct 19, 2016 4:40 PM

    Let me say this about Montana’s teams from the 80’s, they were very good teams but the AFC teams that they faced in their Super Bowls were all second rate teams. Look at some of the one sides games that were played then. The NFC was a much more powerful conference in the 80’s when you think back. Imaging scores like 49-10 the Bears pounding the Patriots and Steve Young’s 49ers team putting up 55 points on San Diego, I think it was. The Giants won twice in that decade, The 85 Bears and the 49ers won multiple times and then right into the 90’s with the Dallas Cowboys and their multiple titles.

    The balance was definitely tilted in the direction of the NFC. I don’t think anyone can say that now. It’s more of an even playing field and Super Bowl games now always seem to be decided on last minute plays. As a Pats fan, I can recall two painful losses to the Giants because of last minute heroics. There is a certain parity in the league and going to the SB 6 times and winning 4 of them is very comparable to what Joe Cool did in the 80’s. It’s much tougher now and much more balanced.

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