Skip to content

Dirk Koetter takes issue with Jon Gruden’s comments about Jameis Winston

CHARLOTTE, NC - OCTOBER 10:  Head coach Dirk Koetter of the Tampa Bay Buccaneers looks on against the Carolina Panthers in the 1st quarter during the game at Bank of America Stadium on October 10, 2016 in Charlotte, North Carolina.  (Photo by Grant Halverson/Getty Images) Getty Images

And now we know why Jon Gruden has spent so much of his time as a game analyst saying positive, vanilla, non-controversial things.

On Monday night, Gruden suggested after the Buccaneers dialed up a running play on third and nine in the fourth quarter at Carolina that coach Dirk Koetter lacks confidence in quarterback Jameis Winston. Koetter took strong to quite strong issue with the assessment.

“I think Coach Koetter lost confidence in Winston after he forced the ball into a double zone,” Gruden said on the Monday Night Football broadcast, via Mark Cook of PewterReport.com.

Koetter bristled at the suggestion.

That wasn’t a lack of confidence,” Koetter said. “Again, when analysts say stuff like that, that’s like —  when Jon was coaching and someone said that about him, you know what he’d be standing up here saying? ‘That guy doesn’t know what I’m thinking or anything about my team.’ He gets paid to talk on TV. I get paid to coach the Bucs.

“Those guys can say whatever they want. Yeah, we ran it on third-and-nine. You know what? We also ran it on third-and-three and third-and-five and we were two out of three running the ball on third down and we weren’t nearly that successful throwing the ball. It had no reflection at all on my confidence in Jameis Winston. There can be no person on this planet, other than his parents, that’s more confident in Jameis Winston than me.”

Gruden’s comments carry extra weight because he lives in Tampa, he coached the team, and he had access to the organization for several days in advance of Monday night’s game, giving him an opportunity to develop opinions and perspectives that are more informed than most people in the business of expressing football-related opinions.

Koetter insists Gruden isn’t properly informed, and it’s important for Koetter to make the case that he’s confident in Winston. The organization is all in with its second-year quarterback; if ownership detects that the coach who was hand-picked to groom Winston isn’t, the Buccaneers once again will be looking for the next successor to Jon Gruden.

Permalink 30 Comments Feed for comments Latest Stories in: Home, Rumor Mill, Tampa Bay Buccaneers
30 Responses to “Dirk Koetter takes issue with Jon Gruden’s comments about Jameis Winston”
  1. MichaelEdits says: Oct 12, 2016 6:45 AM

    Gruden’s tenure was the beginning of the decline into the current mess. What the Bucs really need to do is to beg Dungy for forgiveness. Best coach they’ll ever have down there.

  2. pastabelly says: Oct 12, 2016 6:54 AM

    Koetter should just admit that it was a crappy overly conservative call. The truth is probably closer that he was afraid of taking a sack and getting out of field goal position for his crappy kicker. Who knows?

  3. blynch67 says: Oct 12, 2016 6:56 AM

    I never really cared for Gruden, or his opinions.

  4. bringbackkosar says: Oct 12, 2016 7:09 AM

    sounds like awfully thin skin on Koetter’s part, he has nothing better to do than worry about what announcers say?
    They would eat him alive in NY or Philly or Boston

  5. metspeed21 says: Oct 12, 2016 7:37 AM

    I agree with Gruden’s comment given Winston’s previous decision to force the ball. I think Gruden was referring to the current series (in scoring distance) and not in general.

  6. tacomatiger says: Oct 12, 2016 7:51 AM

    Chucky sounds a little butthurt..

  7. nflunbiased says: Oct 12, 2016 8:21 AM

    Dirk went real conservative. Anyone can label it anything. Play calling or lacking confidence or feel or whatever. My eyes saw play calling that leaned toward trying not to lose versus going for the win. Yes they did convert on their third downs but how about being more aggressive to not even reach every third down. They did earn the win but the mentality was not what I want to see in a head coach. Not saying he is terrible, don’t watch many TB games but that was a poor display of 4th quarter coaching in my opinion. It worked of course in spite of how he did it.

  8. cuda1234 says: Oct 12, 2016 8:42 AM

    You are right about the people in Tampa knowing Gruden, who grew up and coached there.

    They understand how Tony Dungy spent 10 years turning the worst franchise in professional sports into a consistent winner and they understand that Gruden tore it down in about five years. The franchise has never recovered.

    Jay is the smart and successful Gruden. Jon is George W to Jay’s Jeb Bush.

  9. realityonetwo says: Oct 12, 2016 9:08 AM

    Sooooo, you say you converted running it on third-and-three and third-and-five, so naturally you thought it would work on third-and-nine? Really?

  10. charliecharger says: Oct 12, 2016 9:13 AM

    No wonder Jon Gruden always acts like every coach is the greatest in the world. He knows how sensitive they are.

  11. athwartships says: Oct 12, 2016 9:48 AM

    Are we paying attention to what Gruden says? I didn’t get that memo. A walking ego blow-hard who contradicts himself in real time during a game heaping hyperbolic praise on a player one second then vilifying them the next has no opinions ANYONE should care about.

  12. All-American Voltron says: Oct 12, 2016 11:03 AM

    “we weren’t nearly that successful throwing the ball. It had no reflection at all on my confidence in Jameis Winston. ”

    If you feel you aren’t as successful throwing, isn’t that the definition of not having confidence in your QB???

  13. davefromwork says: Oct 12, 2016 11:25 AM

    we ran it on 3rd and 3 & 3rd and 5, so we should run on 3rd and 9??? How does that make any sense?

    It was an overly conservative play call, as was much of the last 3-4 minutes of that game for the Bucs’ offense. Couple that with the high number of turnovers for Winston this year, his other poor throws in that game, and maybe most importantly the poor play of the offensive line, and Gruden’s comments make some sense.

  14. tef43tootef43 says: Oct 12, 2016 11:53 AM

    You have to remember that during Koetter’s tenure with the Jagturds, his idea of an offense was run Jones-Drew x 3 then punt.

  15. sgrvn329 says: Oct 12, 2016 11:58 AM

    Jameis Winston is going to be a generational QB if handled right, I agree with the way that the HC called the game you don’t want to put too much on this young QB shoulder, the Panthers have a good defense and the Bucs OL is not ready for prime time. Winston will need a strong running game for his development as Russell Wilson had with Lynch. Once he learns how defenses will attack him and he can better recogize coverages and change plays at the line of scrimmage then more can be put on him.

  16. marmac2768 says: Oct 12, 2016 12:03 PM

    “All-American Voltron says:
    Oct 12, 2016 11:03 AM
    “we weren’t nearly that successful throwing the ball. It had no reflection at all on my confidence in Jameis Winston. ”

    If you feel you aren’t as successful throwing, isn’t that the definition of not having confidence in your QB???”

    ******************************************************

    NO! It could be the defensive scheme was doing a good job on covering their receivers. Winston has been known, from time to time, of trying to force a throw into coverage and coming out with an interception. Plus, I have seen it MANY TIMES, when the defense is expecting a pass on 3rd and 9, to run the ball. I have seen it WORK many times as well. It didn’t work this time, punt the ball, play defense like you can and get it back. That is not “too conservative”, it is the way that it is done sometimes.

    The Bucs DID win, didn’t they?? Just double checking!

  17. testamentoffaith says: Oct 12, 2016 12:04 PM

    Gruden is the reason I watch MNF on mute.

  18. TheDPR says: Oct 12, 2016 12:24 PM

    Gruden’s not a great commentator but he was right about that call at that moment. He didn’t say coach doesn’t trust his quarterback. Coach didn’t have confidence in his QB on that play at that time (otherwise he’d have called a pass).

  19. Voidhelix says: Oct 12, 2016 12:45 PM

    Gruden was right. But then they didn`t have any confidence in Roberto Aguayo, either….

  20. Mr. Wright 212 says: Oct 12, 2016 12:45 PM

    Gruden’s comments carry extra weight because he lives in Tampa, he coached the team, and he had access to the organization for several days in advance of Monday night’s game, giving him an opportunity to develop opinions and perspectives that are more informed than most people in the business of expressing football-related opinions.
    ==========

    This is rubbish.

    Gruden’s comments carry extra weight because the parrots who watch the games take it as gospel and repeat it. The whole “he coached, lives in, has access to Tampa” stuff means nothing.

  21. lambeaudungbarn says: Oct 12, 2016 12:50 PM

    When I watch Winston play I get the same taste in my mouth as I get watching Teddy Bridgewater. it is almost there but he will spend the rest of his career JUST about hitting those big plays the elite QB’s make.

  22. tbrucemom says: Oct 12, 2016 1:08 PM

    I thought it was a bad call to run on 3rd and 9. I don’t know if it’s because of a lack of confidence or just a bad coaching call, but it was not the right call.

  23. tatatoothy68 says: Oct 12, 2016 1:22 PM

    Keotter will be fired after this season. Hes awful.

  24. bigirv1971 says: Oct 12, 2016 1:42 PM

    I am really tired of hearing Gruden speak. That guy gets way too much credit for winning a Super Bowl with a team that Tony Dungy built. That was evidenced by the fact that he only made the playoffs twice in 5 years after the Super Bowl with a team that could have inserted any coach and won after the work Dungy did. The Bucs franchise has been in continual decline since Gruden took over.

  25. bigirv1971 says: Oct 12, 2016 1:47 PM

    cuda1234 says:
    Oct 12, 2016 8:42 AM

    “You are right about the people in Tampa knowing Gruden, who grew up and coached there.

    They understand how Tony Dungy spent 10 years turning the worst franchise in professional sports into a consistent winner and they understand that Gruden tore it down in about five years. The franchise has never recovered.

    Jay is the smart and successful Gruden. Jon is George W to Jay’s Jeb Bush.”
    ————————————————————–

    I do not know why so many people gave you a thumbs down. I think your comment is spot on.

  26. southernmaster says: Oct 12, 2016 3:01 PM

    What Koetter should have said was, “Everyone’s entitled to their opinion, even if it’s wrong. Next!”

  27. tyelee says: Oct 12, 2016 4:04 PM

    It must have been gratifying for Gruden to watch his old team play so horribly… For the nation to see for themselves that the bucs are still the same ole bucs since firing him!

  28. keifer1751 says: Oct 12, 2016 9:36 PM

    I never thought Chucky was a great Head Coach. Yes, he won a SB but that was Tony Dungy’s hand built team. When you put him behind a microphone, he becomes a bonehead. I typically watch his games with the sound off. He and Sean have zero chemistry, so Mute is the best way to watch the game for me.

  29. bythebay15 says: Oct 17, 2016 8:41 AM

    Folks, here’s a question for you:

    If Gruden won with Dungy’s Team, whose team did Bill Callahan (Raiders coach during SB XXXVII) take?

    Get me?

    The NFL is full of coaches hired to take an already strong team to the next level (anyone remember Marty Schottenhiemer’s firing?), but there are very few who actually get the job done. By your logic, Gruden took not one, but TWO teams to the Super Bowl that year, as his opponent in the championship game was none other than his former team, the Raiders.

    If you’re looking for the point when the Bucs organization went into decline, you need to look post-Gruden, because what Gruden did was to actually WIN a Super Bowl (the only one in team history), make the playoffs three times in six years and get fired after two consecutive 9-7 seasons (which the Bucs haven’t had since his firing).

    Class dismissed.

  30. cmoney20 says: Oct 17, 2016 8:32 PM

    That was easily one of the worst coached games of the season by Koetter. The fact the Bucs won that was nothing short of a miracle.

Leave a Reply

You must be logged in to leave a comment. Not a member? Register now!