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NFL will continue to discuss the “worst rule in football”

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The worst rule in football, as Ravens fans currently know, applies when a player approaches the goal line, fumbles, and no one recovers it before the ball crosses into the end zone and goes out of bounds, resulting in a touchback for the other team. The good news for Ravens fans and fans of any other team that could be screwed by the worst rule in football in the future is that the league will be discussing whether to change it.

The bad news is that it’s previously been a topic for the league, and that it has never been changed.

“This has been discussed in the past,” NFL senior V.P. of officiating Dean Blandino said in his weekly media officiating video. “It will continue to be discussed [and] compared to the fumble forward out of bounds in the field of play where the offense maintains possession. That has been part of the discussion. But again the Competition Committee has not felt compelled to change this rule. And I’m sure they’ll discuss it again and we’ll see where they land after the season.”

Blandino also explained the reason for the rule, which has been on the books for years.

“Because the goal line is involved — and this is a consistent application of the impetus rule,” Blandino said. “Impetus is the force that puts the ball into an end zone. So if a team provides the impetus that puts a ball into their opponent’s end zone . . . then they are responsible for it. They’re responsible for it. And if the ball gets out of bounds through the end zone then it is a touchback.”

Blandino admits that the outcome could be viewed as draconian, in relation to the reality that a fumble by the offense that doesn’t roll out of bounds remains in the possession of the offense. Still, he seems to believe that the result is fair, given the impetus rule.

“Now that may seem like an egregious penalty but again, think about it, they put the ball into their opponent’s end zone,” Blandino said. “If it’s not fourth down or inside two minutes, if they recover it, it’s a score. So that’s potentially a big play, so the penalty for not recovering it . . . has to be big as well. That’s why it’s a touchback. That’s consistent with other loose balls that go into an opponent’s end zone. Kicks, punts, fumbles, backward passes.”

Blandino noted that, prior to 1934, an incomplete pass that crossed the goal line resulted in a touchback, too. That’s a ludicrous outcome; the fact that it ever was a rule demonstrates the traditional importance that applies to the end zone.

“You’re responsible for putting the ball into your opponent’s end zone, you’re responsible for recovering it,” Blandino said. “If you don’t and it goes out of bounds or the defense recovers, they’ve defended their goal line, and they get a touchback.”

If the defense recovers, obviously they deserve possession. The lingering sense of unfairness in this context comes from the reality that if the ball had gone out of bounds at any point in the 100 yards between the end zones, the ball would have remained in the possession of the offense. Once it breaks the plane of the opponent’s end zone and goes out of bounds, possession goes to the defense, at its own 20.

So at least there’s a reason for the rule. It makes it no less unfair, but at least there’s a reason.

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  1. magnumpimustache says: Oct 15, 2016 9:51 AM

    I love the rule.

    Almost all rules favor the offense.

    And besides it’s fair for both sides.

  2. kane337 says: Oct 15, 2016 9:53 AM

    I’m ok with the rule. Don’t fumble it out of the end zone.

  3. stillers213 says: Oct 15, 2016 9:55 AM

    This is far from the worst rule in football. The worst rule in football is a toss up between fining players for minor uniform violations while allowing disrespectful, disgusting socks OR it may be the rule that teams are not allowed to wear patches that pay tribute and honor real heroes.

  4. MichaelEdits says: Oct 15, 2016 9:55 AM

    The worst rule in football is the one that doesn’t force GMs or owners to line up at QB at least once per season. Without a helmet. The fans should vote on which one they’d rather see get killed out there.

  5. MichaelEdits says: Oct 15, 2016 9:56 AM

    Actually, any rules that keep Goodell in as commissioner might also be the worst in football. He needs to spend some time in the Oklahoma Drill.

  6. omgspaz says: Oct 15, 2016 9:58 AM

    Typical Ravens…they’re fine taking advantage of the rules until it goes against them. Keep whining Harbaugh

  7. nflguy007 says: Oct 15, 2016 9:58 AM

    Worst rule in football? Not even close!

  8. johnnyhose says: Oct 15, 2016 10:00 AM

    More like Richard or “Dick” instead of Dean, Blandino, so it’s like a punt, and makes perfect sense, because every ball carrier would love to punt the ball thru the end zone rather then score with it ! What an idiot, what a joke, he may be worse then Roger, Hope that when these two kick the bucket, some one checks them for CTE, or even brains, period !

  9. melonheadsdaddy says: Oct 15, 2016 10:02 AM

    The rule is fine. All Tennessee volunteer fans can attest to that…without the rule that game never goes to overtime. Don’t fumble the ball like and we don’t have an issue.

  10. lenthevikesfan says: Oct 15, 2016 10:03 AM

    I don’t get why it’s the worst rule in football. The most basic rule I can think of is hold on to the football. If you can’t do that there should be consequences.

  11. tjacks7 says: Oct 15, 2016 10:03 AM

    This rule is actually a good one. One of the few rules left that help the defense out and allows them to make a play. I hope these guys don’t start messing with rules that actually work when they could be spending their time figuring out things like the catch rule or kick offs.

  12. meximyke says: Oct 15, 2016 10:05 AM

    That’s one of the problems with the NFL!! Quit changing the rules of the game!! You can’t even officiate the old rules!! The new rules are ruining the game!

  13. pbrady89 says: Oct 15, 2016 10:06 AM

    Yeah, before it started coming up on this site all the time I didn’t even realize that anyone had a problem with this rule.

  14. kurdishpats1 says: Oct 15, 2016 10:07 AM

    If you think fumbling the ball into the end zone and losing possession is the worst rule in football, you need to re-evaluate your football knowledge.

    Everyone knows the worst rule in football is pass interference being a spot foul.

    Change that to a 15 yard penalty instead and instantly the Packers and Ravens offense goes into shambles.

  15. 700levelvet says: Oct 15, 2016 10:09 AM

    The worst rule in the NFL is that Godell is the commissioner…

  16. edukator4 says: Oct 15, 2016 10:10 AM

    no problem with the rule. focus on the unfairness that is the hitting the receiver too hard penalty that extends drives plus gives field position.

  17. getyourownname says: Oct 15, 2016 10:11 AM

    Change it, don’t change it, doesn’t matter.

    But so long as it’s a rule, play like you know it’s a rule.

  18. puffnstuff5005 says: Oct 15, 2016 10:11 AM

    This rule makes sense to me. Don’t fumble the ball. It’s that simple. There are so many rules that are far worse than this one. And instead of fixing what really needs to be fixed, oh yeah… They will change this rule instead.

  19. osiris33 (bandwagon since 1976) says: Oct 15, 2016 10:12 AM

    This is far from the worst rule in football. The worst rule in football is the idiotic rule that says defensive players can’t bat the ball out if the end zone for a touchback. Sheer idiocy

  20. jag1959 says: Oct 15, 2016 10:14 AM

    It’s no different than the real world, serious screw ups carry serious consequences.

  21. yerdumb says: Oct 15, 2016 10:14 AM

    Duh. People complaining about the rule really just dont understand football or its history.

  22. bgsusteelers says: Oct 15, 2016 10:15 AM

    The forward fumble rule applies to the offense. The offense cannot advance the ball simply on the fumble alone. This rule that this article is citing should be left alone. You fumble the ball at the one and it bounces through the end zone, then it should be a touchback.

  23. thebrownswillalwaysloose says: Oct 15, 2016 10:22 AM

    As a Ravens fan I agree the rule is dumb, but it’s not why we lost the game so all in all I don’t care. Our offense (under Trestman) was awful so I get why CJ Mosley was trying to get points but still a stupid play on the fault of the player.

  24. norseyapper says: Oct 15, 2016 10:22 AM

    The great majority of the time this rule comes into play is when the offensive player is reaching out with the ball in one hand trying to touch the pylon. That is, and should remain to be, a high risk and high reward effort. If the offensive player is willing to put the ball at risk in such a way he should also be willing to accept the consequences when things go wrong.
    Leave this rule alone.

  25. Fred says: Oct 15, 2016 10:24 AM

    Go to most sports sites and see stupid Kaepernick or other useless social justice crap.

    Go to ESPN and see to morons screaming at each other.

    Go to Deadspin see every college hit should be targeting and some relabeled Gawker trash.

    Come here and see weekly complaints about players that can’t hold on to the ball not being able to keep the ball.

  26. canetic says: Oct 15, 2016 10:24 AM

    The rule is perfect. Especially when a showboating player drops the ball at the one yard line on their way into the end zone and it ends up hitting the pylon or then going out of bounds and being the other team’s ball. Or when they dive for the end zone and “throw” the ball toward the pylon as if that’s going to be a TD.

  27. 6ball says: Oct 15, 2016 10:27 AM

    .
    Has anyone considered moving the ball back to the 20, but letting the offense keep possession?

    Example : if it’s 2nd and goal from the eight and a team fumbles out of the end zone, then the ball is spotted on the 20, making it 3rd and goal.
    .

  28. rootpain says: Oct 15, 2016 10:28 AM

    Pretty rare these days. To actually have something to discuss that concerns football, that is pretty straightforward and results in a pretty interesting outcome. One of the few things left that would result in a legitimate football fan response (kinda like it used to be when a touchdown was scored and we didn’t have to wait for Pope Blandino’s blessing that the feet were in, a football move was made and the football pressure was correct for the ambient temperature conditions (oops, we are still waiting for that data aren’t we)).
    But have no fear, the NFL will throw a wet blanket on any unscheduled outbursts of emotion by immediately going to triple commercials.

  29. ipdaily69 says: Oct 15, 2016 10:30 AM

    A rule change would allow ball carriers the “free option” to perform a riskier, less secure approach to the goal line. Imagine a RB diving for the pylon, arms extended with the ball. Because his momentum is also carrying him toward the sideline, he can expose the ball knowing a lost ball out of bounds is meaningless.
    Scoring is not supposed to be easy

  30. lukedunphysscienceproject says: Oct 15, 2016 10:31 AM

    I understand the philosophy the penalty for making a bad play around the goal line and in the end zone are a little more severe. The rewards for making a good play at the goal line and in the end zone are also much greater.

    If I sack your QB in the middle of the field, my reward is lost yardage for you. If I sack your QB in the end zone, the reward is much greater- I get two points and the ball.

    The fumble rule is consistent with other rules in the game that encourage good play when it counts- at the goal line. I have no problem with it.

  31. projectshadow316 says: Oct 15, 2016 10:31 AM

    Once again, the Ravens whine about a rule that affected them adversely.

    The “ineligible receiver” set up vs. the Patriots? They lobbied HARD to get rid of that, but then used it themselves.

    They’ll certainly try the same thing in the offseason.

    As far as the “worse rule in football” goes, the NFL doesn’t even have a concrete definition of what a catch is. How about they fix THAT before anything else? My solution: two feet down and control.

  32. johnjackguy says: Oct 15, 2016 10:34 AM

    I like the rule but I wish they would change it so you will quit crying about it, LOL

  33. troylok says: Oct 15, 2016 10:36 AM

    I saw the game and the fumble. The player couldn’t get the ball over on his own steam so he gave it a little toss, which was bone-headed and in this case it seems fair to punish the player who tried to toss his way to a touchdown. Does the punishment fit the crime? No. Should the rule punish the offender with a ten yard penalty spotted from the goal line? Yeah, that would seem a little more fair.

  34. pastabelly says: Oct 15, 2016 10:36 AM

    Enough with all of the rules changes, Thursday night football, and football overseas. Roger Goodell and company can make the game safer, but other than that, football was a great game. Leave it alone already.

  35. bender4700 says: Oct 15, 2016 10:47 AM

    Clearly that rule isn’t the worst.

    Hold on to the ball!

    Ravens always crying when they fail.

  36. rufustfirefly1303 says: Oct 15, 2016 10:49 AM

    Ben watson chased down champ bailey and knocked the ball out of the endzone with no enforcement of this rule. Still bothers me 10 years later

  37. parilli15 says: Oct 15, 2016 10:57 AM

    Keep the rule. And go one step further and consider treating all fumbles recovered by the offense like incomplete passes, with the ball being returned to the line of scrimmage or at least back to the spot of the fumble. There should be consequences for fumbling the ball. It doesn’t seem fair that a runner can carry the ball 5 yards, fumble it forward 5 yards to a teammate and thus pick up a first down. The NFL recognizes that forward fumbles can be intentional which is why already there’s a restriction on fourth down and last-two-minutes-of-the-game fumbles recovered by the offense.

  38. j huber says: Oct 15, 2016 11:02 AM

    NFL officiating is a very redundant sad joke. You will have trouble finding two refs,who call a play the same way. And then the idiots in NY, who have concepts, not in rule book. Next you have nobility, doing next to nothing, and not responsible for anything, getting huge wages for incompetence. One example is field communications problems, have existed for more than 20 years. Another is playing field conditions, like soldier field, while team color violations cost 20k, with no allowance for temporary specialized safety equipment.

    The whole system is bass-ackwards.

  39. jackericsson says: Oct 15, 2016 11:03 AM

    So for 100 yards, when the offense fumbles out of bounds, you assume it should stay with offense and can only be a turnover with clear possession by the defense. That is too one sided and the end zone fumble makes it more fair. And, as stated already, the pass interference spot foul is the worst rule in football. Personal fouls are only 15 yards. Running into the kicker is 15 yards. Pass interference shouldn’t be more than personal fouls.

  40. getadealdonealready says: Oct 15, 2016 11:03 AM

    I’m not sure it can be the worst rule in Football if it only comes into play once a year at most.

    IMO the worst rule still is PI, comes into play every week if not every game, and the consistency to what is called and not called is low, and what is called has a major impact on games.

  41. sdchicken says: Oct 15, 2016 11:05 AM

    Read the headline and about 5 worst rules popped into my head, fumbling out of the end zone wouldn’t even be on the list.

    1. Catch rule
    2. Tuck Rule
    3. Celebration penalty
    4. Illegal shift
    5. Flag for challenging under 2 minutes, when game is on the line, the other team is in hurry up, and the refs are dropping the ball on reviewing a bad play

  42. nsm70 says: Oct 15, 2016 11:07 AM

    Sorry folks, this rule needs to stay. If it were gone, OC would create plays with forward fumbles integrated. Thank the mighty Oakland raiders of the 70’s and the Holy Roller play.

  43. justintuckrule says: Oct 15, 2016 11:10 AM

    Love the rule. In fact, with rules so tilted in favor of offenses, I’d like to see that 1930 rule come back as well. Better be careful throwing those corner fades that are now either easy tds or automatic PIs.

  44. jrossizzle says: Oct 15, 2016 11:13 AM

    Letting cry babies crap on the flag?

  45. JSpicoli says: Oct 15, 2016 11:13 AM

    Saying it is a worst rule in football is saying a lot. The game is fundamentally flawed by rules, officiating and having more contact than today’s PC culture would allow.

    Football would never have been invented post 1980.

  46. usdcoyotesfan says: Oct 15, 2016 11:13 AM

    I disagree with the majority here. Why should there be a change of possession if the defense hasn’t earned it?

  47. justintuckrule says: Oct 15, 2016 11:14 AM

    Think about it. If the league was so interested in really preventing concussions, they should think about rules that reward defenses for going for the ball instead of the big hit. Anything that changes possession when balls or dropped in the end zone or fumbled out of bounds would result in more plays on the ball, stripping, etc. excitement stays, hits to the head decrease, fairness to the defense restored.

  48. leatherface2012 says: Oct 15, 2016 11:22 AM

    heres the dumbest rule …cornerback grabs a bit of jersey on 4th and 35..gets called for holding, 28 yards from where the qb threw the ball..automatic 1st down..that is beyond stupid

  49. birdsta1 says: Oct 15, 2016 11:22 AM

    It is one of the worst rules in football, for those who say “just don’t fumble the ball” then why don’t we just say anytime a player fumbles the opposing team gets the ball. The other team doesn’t even have to attempt a recovery because they would automatically get it. That’s what they do when the ball is fumbled in the end zone. The opposing team gets rewarded too much for doing less than they would actually causing a fumble and recovering it.

    The rule should be if you fumble the ball through the opposing teams end zone you get the ball placed at the 20 yard mark. If it was first down when the player fumbled then it would be 2nd down and 20 so on and so forth. If it was a return, like the Ravens, then 1st and 20.

  50. rportkid says: Oct 15, 2016 11:23 AM

    The NFL is imploding thanks to the corrupt commissioner and his buffoons running the league. Sad but true.

  51. timothy131 says: Oct 15, 2016 11:24 AM

    they wont change it because it would allow runners to fake a fumble and toss it accross the line.Maybe change it so that the fumbling team gets the ball on the twenty five YL

  52. pourman says: Oct 15, 2016 11:26 AM

    Don’t even talk about it until you figure out what a catch is. Whole sport has become based on the forward pass and no one knows what constitutes a catch. Idiots.

  53. dsigrey says: Oct 15, 2016 11:32 AM

    Hold on to the ball. Stop whining. Typical Ravens

  54. stew48 says: Oct 15, 2016 11:37 AM

    Actually, a very good rule, one that will not be changed.

  55. skinstowin says: Oct 15, 2016 11:38 AM

    It’s a fair rule and explained perfectly by the NFL….defense didn’t earn it and got careless…if he fumbled and it rolled out at the 1 inch line, ravens get it at one inch line….that no name LB decided to try to stretch out the ball, lost it, and it went thru the endzone….doesn’t deserve to keep possession.

    theres a zillion other rules way “dumber” than this in the NFL….catch rule, tuck rule…PI calls, celebration penalties….

    another one of the 1.5 million issues and topics I disagree with florio on.

  56. Xenu D. Alien says: Oct 15, 2016 11:42 AM

    I think the excessive celebration penalty is the worst rule. We watch to be entertained, let the players be entertaining. If it drags on too long, give them a delay of game penalty and be done with it.

  57. amaf21 says: Oct 15, 2016 11:52 AM

    this your new crusade since your buddy petey king’s team lost because of this rule?

  58. imodan says: Oct 15, 2016 12:02 PM

    The Ravens, nuff said. They refuse to accept any responsibility for losses. The other team cheated, the ref’s screwed us, blah, blah, blah. There’s no bigger whiner in sports than Raven organization and Raven fan. Shut up and play ball crybabies!!

  59. th56 says: Oct 15, 2016 12:06 PM

    The only time you ever see this happen is when the player stretches out, hanging on to the ball with one hand, trying to squeeze it across the corner of the end zone. If you you chose to take that kind of chance with the ball, you need to suffer the consequence if you fumble.

  60. mullman76 says: Oct 15, 2016 12:12 PM

    The worst rule if football is the Tuck Rule.

    Oh wait, they waited for Al Davis to die before changing the rule that shifted the course of the league forever.

    There was NO WAY the league was going to allow the RAIDERS to defeat the Patriots after 9/11.

    The league won and a “dynasty” begun.

    “….and that’s just the way it is, baby. Just the way it is…”

  61. torchsandaardvarks says: Oct 15, 2016 12:31 PM

    Keep this rule. The game helps offense too much already. I hope they make a change like all fumbled out of bounds balls are now given to the defense.

  62. factpurveyor says: Oct 15, 2016 12:43 PM

    When will the NFL discuss the results of the PSI tests that were performed on footballs in games during the 2015 season?

    The NFL is keeping that PSI information secret is equivalent to the NFL admitting that the information exonerates Tom Brady and the Patriots.

    It’s time to award the Patriots draft picks to make up for the 2016 1st round draft pick that was stolen. It’s also time to give the stolen 2017 4th round pick back. Its also time to award a 1st round pick for making Brady miss 25% of the 2016 season.

  63. dynalee10 says: Oct 15, 2016 12:43 PM

    Blandino is a complete shill for he owners . he uses jus enough double talk to make fans believe he is seriously considering something when is jus gobbledegook . I feel the worst rule in football is when he QB gets and nenional grounding call because they lose both the distance and the down . The only penalty that you get a double whammy . Well unless your Arron Rogers and you get offsides on the defense and they let you run the play anyway half the defense is standing around and the Packers get a free pass . I truly believe this is part of their playbook . All the other teams they blow the whistle and stop play.

  64. johnwaldron8 says: Oct 15, 2016 12:43 PM

    My vote for “worst rule” is an application of the illegal forward pass rule. This only happens every few years, but here is the scenario:

    A receiver makes a diving catch to convert a key 3rd or 4th down. Without being touched by a defender, the receiver gets up and spikes the ball to celebrate the catch and gaining a 1st down. By rule, the offensive player is penalized 5 yards for an illegal forward pass. The yardage gained and the first down count. It’s now just 1st and 15.

    This should be a fumble. It’s a live ball and the offensive player is intentionally throwing it away. They shouldn’t be “rewarded” by keeping possession and only losing 5 yards.

  65. stealthscorpio says: Oct 15, 2016 12:47 PM

    THIS IS THE MOST JACKED UP RULE IN FOOTBALL:

    The worst rule in football is the inconsistency in downing punts. Take Thursday night’s game…

    Coverage team touches ball in motion at the 6 yard line but doesn’t stop it’s momentum…

    Ball is stopped by coverage team at the 1.

    Ball goes to 6 where it was first touched…

    Had it gone into the endzone it would have come out to the 20, eveen though it was touched at the 6.

    It the player who stopped the ball at the 1 had his foot in the endzone it would have been a touchback, even if the ball does not even approach the plane of the goal line…on any other play involving the goal line, a touchdown or a safety, the location of the players body is of no consequence. Just the position of thee ball and the goal line. Breaking the plane for a touchdown or completely out to avoid a safety.

    The ruleshould be the ball should be placed where the ball is first touched OR downed (stopped). Just pick one and stick with it, I don’t really care, but just pick one. Downed makes more sense to me, but I could go with touched just as easy. The goalline should only matter with the ball position itself, just like any other play.

    Who over-engineered this rule?

  66. steves11 says: Oct 15, 2016 12:47 PM

    “So at least there’s a reason for the rule. It makes it no less unfair, but at least there’s a reason”

    That’s like saying that there’s a reason why the guy with the gun robbed you of your money because he was broke and needed some. It makes it no less unfair, but at least there’s a reason.

  67. stealthscorpio says: Oct 15, 2016 12:55 PM

    PS – Basically the same fumble out of the end zone rule happens in rugby. A 22 drop out (the other team get’s control of the ball). So the rule and concept has been around a while!

  68. rynehawk says: Oct 15, 2016 1:03 PM

    Don’t worry everyone! Blandino is on the case!

  69. stuartscottslefteye says: Oct 15, 2016 1:08 PM

    Redskins throw an interception from their own two yard line and the resultant outcome of the play is they get the ball back and gain 18 yards. Yeah, makes sense to me.

  70. laserw says: Oct 15, 2016 1:13 PM

    There is nothing wrong with the rule.

    It is fair.

    The worst rule in the NFL is when an offense gets to profit off a defensive penalty and gets the option for a free play.

    This needs to be changed where an offensive penalty for illegal motion, formation, or otherwise type of play allows the play to continue where the defense gets to have an equal time to profit from an offensive mistake. The offense should be forced to go through with the play or to call a timeout. At no point should the defense not get an equal opportunity to use the Cheesehead loophole for themselves.

    We also need to ban any type of showboating into the endzone without being contested – no more high stepping, backwards runs, or acrobatic leaps into the endzone without being challenged. As this is unsportsmanlike conduct that is in fact taunting, the play should be nullified once the action is taken, the ball brought back to the original line of scrimmage and 15 yards enforced from that spot to the detriment of the offense. Any score should be taken off the board and the offense should be forced to conduct their business without acting like children.

  71. jag1959 says: Oct 15, 2016 1:16 PM

    osiris33 (bandwagon since 1976) says:
    Oct 15, 2016 10:12 AM
    This is far from the worst rule in football. The worst rule in football is the idiotic rule that says defensive players can’t bat the ball out if the end zone for a touchback. Sheer idiocy
    _______________

    Nothing wrong with the batting rule except it is seldom enforced correctly. As the defensive team did not have possession the intentional batting of the ball out of the endzone should be a penalty and definitely not result in a change of possession never mind a touchback. The operative word is intentional, if a defensive player attempts to make a play on a loose ball in the field of play and it goes out of bounds without being recovered they aren’t awarded the ball, why should they be awarded it if it occurs in the endzone? All the defensive player needs to do to prevent the illegal batting penalty is attempt to actually make a play on the ball rather than trying to keep someone else from doing it.

  72. lightninglucci says: Oct 15, 2016 2:13 PM

    “So at least there’s a reason for the rule. It makes it no less unfair, but at least there’s a reason.”

    Every time you post about this, we give you the same good and fair reasons. Here we are yet again and you still seem convinced the rule is 100% unfair.

  73. factpurveyor says: Oct 15, 2016 2:22 PM

    mullman76 says:
    Oct 15, 2016 12:12 PM

    The worst rule if football is the Tuck Rule.

    There was NO WAY the league was going to allow the RAIDERS to defeat the Patriots after 9/11.

    The league won and a “dynasty” begun.

    “….and that’s just the way it is, baby. Just the way it is…”
    —————————————————————–
    You neglected to mention a few items related to the Patriots and the Raiders…

    If you want to go back in the past to see a team actually get cheated by a call in a game that would have put them in the superbowl just look on the same online video site for “1976 PATRIOTS”.

    The Raiders won the superbowl that year after advancing in the playoffs due to a bogus roughing the passer call. Even by todays quarterback friendly rules that would be a bad call.

    How about the tuck rule:
    First of all the Tuck Rule was already a rule in the NFL rule book so the fact that the referees called it according to the rule book was what it was their jobs to do.

    If you look for a video online titled “THE TUCK RULE – 10 YEAR ANNIVERSARY” you can see #21 Eric Allen Raiders cornerback standing on the Patriots sideline as the Patriots are talking about the play the Patriots are going to run.

    In the video Eric Allen is interviewed and admits that the told the Raiders that information and the Raiders put a defense in to specifically cover the player that Tom Brady was going to pass to. That is why Tom Brady had to tuck the football in the first place.

    So if the Raiders did not steal the play call with that sleazy tactic, then the tuck rule play never happens and Tom Brady likely completes a pass to win the game. Tom Brady obviously had the skill to do it.

    So the tuck rule was immediate karma for Raiders cornerback Eric Allen stealing the Patriots play call for the very play that would become known as the “tuck rule play”.

  74. bleedingfacemask says: Oct 15, 2016 2:24 PM

    Every time I read the words “worst rule in football”, I read the rule as written, consider other rules of what constitutes a TD or fumble or touchback, and the rule then makes perfect sense.

  75. screamingyellowzonkers says: Oct 15, 2016 2:28 PM

    If the offense fumbles the ball out of their own end zone the defense gets a safety for doing nothing.

    Why?

    Isn’t this the same issue?

    Why is there no outcry about this rule?

  76. bigoldred says: Oct 15, 2016 2:29 PM

    The Ravens would whine about sunshine. The worst rule by far is the pass interference as a spot penalty. Maybe 5 yds for accidental, 15 for intentional (like the running into the kicker penalties). If a PI is truly egregious (like tackling a receiver early) then maybe a spot foul.

  77. factpurveyor says: Oct 15, 2016 2:35 PM

    mullman76 says:
    Oct 15, 2016 12:12 PM

    There was NO WAY the league was going to allow the RAIDERS to defeat the Patriots after 9/11.

    ———————————————————–

    Except the NFL allowed the RAIDERS to do just that in 1976 when the country was celebrating its Bicentenial (200th anniversary). How awesome would it have been for the PATRIOTS to win the superbowl that year.

    Instead the refs allowed the RAIDERS to beat the PATRIOTS with a game changing bogus roughing the passer call that would be considered bogus even by todays QB friendly rules. That bad call was captured on video so there is no disputing it.

  78. streetyson says: Oct 15, 2016 2:35 PM

    nsm70 says:
    Oct 15, 2016 11:07 AM
    Sorry folks, this rule needs to stay. If it were gone, OC would create plays with forward fumbles integrated. Thank the mighty Oakland raiders of the 70’s and the Holy Roller play.
    ———————
    You almost hit the nail on the head! That is exactly what used to happen and exactly why the rule was put in place all those decades ago! Teams would deliberately fumble or bat or kick the ball into the opposition endzone and then try to reach it for a score, as a “trick” play to fool the defense. As usual, Blandino has done a terrible job of explaining – but I’m surprised Florio didn’t know the real AND IMPORTANT reason for the rule. (Btw, I say “trick” but in fact I think it harks back to when football was more like rugby.

  79. primemundo says: Oct 15, 2016 2:36 PM

    Isn’t the tuck rule the worst?

  80. factpurveyor says: Oct 15, 2016 2:38 PM

    mullman76 says:
    Oct 15, 2016 12:12 PM

    The worst rule if football is the Tuck Rule.

    There was NO WAY the league was going to allow the RAIDERS to defeat the Patriots after 9/11.

    The league won and a “dynasty” begun.

    “….and that’s just the way it is, baby. Just the way it is…”

    —————————————————————–
    Its time to get over that…

    First of all the Tuck Rule was already a rule in the NFL rule book so the fact that the referees called it according to the rule book was what it was their jobs to do.

    If you look for a video online titled “THE TUCK RULE – 10 YEAR ANNIVERSARY” you can see #21 Eric Allen Raiders cornerback standing on the Patriots sideline as the Patriots are talking about the play the Patriots are going to run.

    In the video Eric Allen is interviewed and admits that the told the Raiders that information and the Raiders put a defense in to specifically cover the player that Tom Brady was going to pass to. That is why Tom Brady had to tuck the football in the first place.

    So if the Raiders did not steal the play call with that sleazy tactic, then the tuck rule play never happens and Tom Brady likely completes a pass to win the game. Tom Brady obviously had the skill to do it.

    So the tuck rule was immediate karma for Raiders cornerback Eric Allen stealing the Patriots play call for the very play that would become known as the “tuck rule play”.

  81. johnodocks says: Oct 15, 2016 2:48 PM

    I don’t remember reading where the Ravens complained about this rule.

  82. RegisHawk says: Oct 15, 2016 2:51 PM

    The field of play is from the 0 to the 0. Different rules apply for the goal zone areas. This is the 3rd time you’ve been told that and still don’t get it.

  83. boobsmcgoo says: Oct 15, 2016 2:55 PM

    My favorite rule!

  84. jag1959 says: Oct 15, 2016 2:59 PM

    primemundo says:
    Oct 15, 2016 2:36 PM
    Isn’t the tuck rule the worst?
    _______________

    No, because there is no tuck rule. It was eliminated in 2013

  85. chippys lost binky says: Oct 15, 2016 3:05 PM

    mullman76 says:
    Oct 15, 2016 12:12 PM
    The worst rule if football is the Tuck Rule.
    +++++++++++++++

    It was repealed 3 years ago, way to keep up.

  86. scoocha says: Oct 15, 2016 3:18 PM

    How about a compromise?
    Ball knocked through endzone still goes to the defense but it comes out to the yard line where it was fumbled instead of all the way to the 20.

  87. mullman76 says: Oct 15, 2016 3:47 PM

    @chippys lost binky:

    Read the entire post before you respond.

    Try again.

    Thanks for playing.

  88. mullman76 says: Oct 15, 2016 3:51 PM

    @ chippys lost binky:

    mullman76 says:
    Oct 15, 2016 12:12 PM
    The worst rule if football is the Tuck Rule.

    Oh wait, they waited for Al Davis to die before changing the rule that shifted the course of the league forever.

    There was NO WAY the league was going to allow the RAIDERS to defeat the Patriots after 9/11.

    The league won and a “dynasty” begun.

    “….and that’s just the way it is, baby. Just the way it is…”

    Being a Raiders fan, I am well aware that the Tuck Rule was repealed.

    @chippy and the patsy fans: Here is the post I referenced.

    It was roughing the passer in 1976, good call.

    It was a fumble by Tom Brady. Bad call.

    Carry on.

  89. mullman76 says: Oct 15, 2016 3:53 PM

    Also, I’ve seen the ’76 video many times.

    Good call.

  90. pastabelly says: Oct 15, 2016 4:01 PM

    factpurveyor says:
    Oct 15, 2016 2:38 PM

    Its time to get over that…

    First of all the Tuck Rule was already a rule in the NFL rule book so the fact that the referees called it according to the rule book was what it was their jobs to do.

    If you look for a video online titled “THE TUCK RULE – 10 YEAR ANNIVERSARY” you can see #21 Eric Allen Raiders cornerback standing on the Patriots sideline as the Patriots are talking about the play the Patriots are going to run.

    In the video Eric Allen is interviewed and admits that the told the Raiders that information and the Raiders put a defense in to specifically cover the player that Tom Brady was going to pass to. That is why Tom Brady had to tuck the football in the first place.

    So if the Raiders did not steal the play call with that sleazy tactic, then the tuck rule play never happens and Tom Brady likely completes a pass to win the game. Tom Brady obviously had the skill to do it.

    So the tuck rule was immediate karma for Raiders cornerback Eric Allen stealing the Patriots play call for the very play that would become known as the “tuck rule play”.
    =================================
    I’m a huge Pats fan and never knew that Allen admitted that he stole Brady’s signal. You are 100% correct. Oakland cheated.

    factpurveyor says:
    Oct 15, 2016 2:38 PM
    mullman76 says:
    Oct 15, 2016 12:12 PM

    The worst rule if football is the Tuck Rule.

    There was NO WAY the league was going to allow the RAIDERS to defeat the Patriots after 9/11.

    The league won and a “dynasty” begun.

    “….and that’s just the way it is, baby. Just the way it is…”

    —————————————————————–
    Its time to get over that…

    First of all the Tuck Rule was already a rule in the NFL rule book so the fact that the referees called it according to the rule book was what it was their jobs to do.

    If you look for a video online titled “THE TUCK RULE – 10 YEAR ANNIVERSARY” you can see #21 Eric Allen Raiders cornerback standing on the Patriots sideline as the Patriots are talking about the play the Patriots are going to run.

    In the video Eric Allen is interviewed and admits that the told the Raiders that information and the Raiders put a defense in to specifically cover the player that Tom Brady was going to pass to. That is why Tom Brady had to tuck the football in the first place.

    So if the Raiders did not steal the play call with that sleazy tactic, then the tuck rule play never happens and Tom Brady likely completes a pass to win the game. Tom Brady obviously had the skill to do it.

    So the tuck rule was immediate karma for Raiders cornerback Eric Allen stealing the Patriots play call for the very play that would become known as the “tuck rule play”.

  91. thewanderer says: Oct 15, 2016 4:09 PM

    Love the site, hate your stance on this rule. If you fumble out of the endzone, you pay the ultimate price for turning it over at the most crucial place on the field.

  92. pancaketaco says: Oct 15, 2016 4:12 PM

    Not the worst rule…

    Add / Change this any loose ball that doesn’t cross the line of scrimmage is a fumble.

    Also, I still think it BS when it’s a one on one tackle that forward progress is applied. (if the CB hits a WR and he falls back 3 yards spot the ball there…)

  93. mullman76 says: Oct 15, 2016 4:22 PM

    @factpurveyor and pastabelly

    I’m over it, but it was clearly a fumble. Clearly.

    Tommy thought so too.

    That roughing the passer call from’76 could’ve gone either way, I guess.

    Hardy har har….

  94. elvoid says: Oct 15, 2016 4:26 PM

    Your obsession with hating this rule is getting comical. There is nothing wrong with this rule.

  95. bigdingyguy says: Oct 15, 2016 4:43 PM

    The worst rule in football is when an offensive fumble goes out of bounds, and the offense gets to keep possession. If an offensive player fumbles the ball, it should be their responsibility to recover it; anything else should be a turnover.

  96. justbegbaby says: Oct 15, 2016 4:48 PM

    The worst rule in the NFL is that there can be no emotion. No celebrating whatsoever. The NFL wants to be the one hand clap of the Masters!

  97. shaggytoodle says: Oct 15, 2016 5:29 PM

    All these people claiming the PI should be 15 yards need to cut it out.

    If you’re watching your fave. team, and the opponent scores with a 45 seconds left in the game to go up by 2. The offense gets the ball at the 25 after the Touch Back. A WR puts a move on a defender screaming down the field and gets tackled at the opposing 35 yard line before the ball gets there, because the defender knows instead its just the ball at their own 40.

    So instead of a FG chance, your team is back on their own 40 Yard line with less than 40 seconds on the clock. and the defense is rewarded for an illegal play.

    I also feel this rule shoulddn’t change because then players could fumble it forward to the end zone OB with out consequences. any time inside the 5 they could technically get the ball at the goal line. What is the other option the offense gets to keep it but they move back to the 50 yard line?

  98. factpurveyor says: Oct 15, 2016 5:32 PM

    mullman76 says:
    Oct 15, 2016 4:22 PM

    @factpurveyor and pastabelly
    I’m over it, but it was clearly a fumble. Clearly.
    Tommy thought so too.
    That roughing the passer call from’76 could’ve gone either way, I guess.
    Hardy har har….

    —————————————————————
    Really cant go either way if you put the call in context.
    Back in 1976 the QB’s were fair game to being hit really hard. Also consider that historically even to this day – the refs usually swallow their whistles during playoff and superbowl football games and they let football players hit more than during regular season games.

    So a season altering call at that point in history was hardly the right call since it was so close. The offense should have blocked the defender better and the ref should not have rewarded the offense for not doing their job during a playoff game. It was a bad call.
    Carry on!

  99. skunkb3ar says: Oct 15, 2016 5:38 PM

    6ball says:
    Oct 15, 2016 10:27 AM
    .
    Has anyone considered moving the ball back to the 20, but letting the offense keep possession?

    Example : if it’s 2nd and goal from the eight and a team fumbles out of the end zone, then the ball is spotted on the 20, making it 3rd and goal.
    ——————————————————————-

    With all due respect, that is one of the dumbest suggestions I have ever heard. Either it is a TB or the ball is spotted at the point of the fumble, OR on the half yard line. What kind of randomness are you suggesting?

    Moot point though, the rule is fine and makes perfect sense as is. It SHOULD be a touch back for the defensive side.

  100. magicmtndan says: Oct 15, 2016 5:51 PM

    Leave it to Florio to call it the worst rule in football when it clearly is not. Oh the drama!

  101. bigd9484 says: Oct 15, 2016 5:52 PM

    Florin – please stop whining about this rule. No one on the competition committee feels strong enough to change it, which means it doesn’t warrant changing or there is no alternative that makes more sense. If you want to keep possession of the ball, don’t fumble it out of the end zone. Pretty simple.

  102. rainsarge says: Oct 15, 2016 6:36 PM

    I’ve never heard players or coaches complain about the rule. Just sports writers with $250 haircuts. Don’t fumble out of the endzone the end.

  103. maust1013 says: Oct 15, 2016 6:54 PM

    factpurveyor says:
    Oct 15, 2016 5:32 PM
    Really cant go either way if you put the call in context.
    ==============

    Raider fans can’t put anything in context.
    If they could they would admit that tuck rule call, the correct call but a bad rule, saved them from the undressing they would have taken at the hands of the Steelers or had a miracle happened and they got past them even worse from the Rams. Look what happened to them in the SB the next year against TB, what an embarrassment that was. They haven’t had a winning season since.
    Even fish fans get to laugh at them

  104. winged warrior says: Oct 15, 2016 7:19 PM

    this says it all :
    “You’re responsible for putting the ball into your opponent’s end zone, you’re responsible for recovering it,” Blandino said. “If you don’t and it goes out of bounds or the defense recovers, they’ve defended their goal line, and they get a touchback.”

  105. LyinRogerMustGo says: Oct 15, 2016 7:27 PM

    I say the tuck rule is by far the greatest rule in the history of pro sports.
    🙂

  106. fwippel says: Oct 15, 2016 7:35 PM

    This rule is perfectly fine as is, and quite frankly your whining about it is becoming almost as annoying as your push for the Redskins to change their name.

    My response to both is the same: get over yourself, and quit trying to drum up a controversy when none exists.

  107. Anicra says: Oct 15, 2016 7:57 PM

    Looks like 8000 to 3 think it is a good rule.

  108. stevegrogannakedbootleg says: Oct 15, 2016 8:17 PM

    Change all rule till the Ravens win ready hike

  109. stevegrogannakedbootleg says: Oct 15, 2016 8:17 PM

    Change all rule till the Ravens win ready hike

  110. montrealraider says: Oct 15, 2016 8:34 PM

    You dont get the logic of the game if you think this is a bad rule. What should it be? Get a mulligan at the 1 yard line, 1st & goal? You lose it just too bad for you.

  111. grandstandrice says: Oct 15, 2016 8:40 PM

    “Impetus is the force that puts the ball into an end zone. So if a team provides the impetus that puts a ball into their opponent’s end zone . . . then they are responsible for it.” Either team may have provided the impetus. Is he saying the rule applies only if the team possessing the ball provides the impetus? That isn’t how it’s applied.

    “So that’s potentially a big play, so the penalty for not recovering it . . . has to be big as well.” On other fumbles the big penalty for not recovering it is that the other team has the opportunity to recover it. That seems like a big enough penalty.

    Maybe Blandino should go back to the “bad visual” excuse.

  112. pga33 says: Oct 15, 2016 8:53 PM

    Who cares? It’s one team’s fans whining about it. Meaning 31 teams fans, players, coaches don’t care.
    The worst thing in pro football, besides the commissioner no one can stand, is the Competition Committee. The only thing they do is shape the sport’s rules to benefit their own teams.

  113. Lemmy Aksyadis says: Oct 16, 2016 7:41 AM

    Never mind the poor Ravens,
    There’s worse things. Intentional grounding is allowed if you cross the nebulous “tackle box” line. This rule is applied with curious frequency.

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