NFL’s position on Cam Newton: 11 quarterbacks have more missed roughing calls since 2013

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Panthers quarterback Cam Newton is right: Officials sometimes miss roughing the passer calls.

Panthers quarterback Cam Newton also is incorrect: They don’t miss more roughing the passer calls for him than they do for other quarterbacks.

Per a source with knowledge of the league’s position on the matter, the NFL would contend (and likely will contend, if Newton follows through on his vow to speak to Commissioner Roger Goodell) that, as missed roughing calls go, he’s faring better than plenty of quarterbacks.

From the league’s perspective, the officials have missed three roughing calls on Cam since the start of the 2013 season. (Yes, that seems low.) Eleven other quarterbacks, by the league’s count, have had more missed roughing calls: Jay Cutler, Alex Smith, Geno Smith, Josh McCown, Andrew Luck, Matt Ryan, Kirk Cousins, Joe Flacco, Ben Roethlisberger, Case Keenum, and Ryan Tannehill.

In the interests of clarity, PFT hasn’t reviewed the film or crushed the numbers or otherwise verified that those 11 quarterbacks have each had more missed roughing calls than Cam. Instead, that’s what the league would say to Cam.

Or, more accurately, what it will say to Cam if/when he shows up at 345 Park Avenue and asks for a meeting with the boss.

130 responses to “NFL’s position on Cam Newton: 11 quarterbacks have more missed roughing calls since 2013

  1. Only the NFL could explain away the inadequacy of their refs by citing more ref inadequacy. They truely don’t get it.

  2. Lol the NFL has a answer for everything. Very lawyer like. They missed 3 roughing the passer calls just in the Denver Broncos game.

    Goodell needs to be replaced. Until then no one will believe anything the NFL says… I’d trust Saul Goodman before I’d believe anything from a NFL led by Roger.

  3. But if those 11 other QBs went to their press conference wearing their Halloween costumes, they’d get attention too.

  4. Does the fact that they track this statistic also concern anyone? What do they do with this information? Go into a game owing a QB? They certainly don’t send them a letter apologizing for the missed call…

  5. While he does have cause to be a little upset over the missed call, he is overreacting and handling it the wrong way. He should’ve let the coach and owner handle the complaint. Much like Richard Sherman he comes across as immature.

    Immensely talented but still immature.

    Does anyone else think if the Panthers were 5-2 instead of 2-5 that he would’ve handled it differently?

    He also might want to think more about protecting himself on the field. The play, earlier this season, that gave him a concussion was entirely his fault and entirely preventable.

    He has gotten away with doing some very dumb things on the field because of his size.

  6. Really Cam, and when you show up for tea and crumpets with Roger, please don’t ware that outfit you had on at the press conference. Makes you look like the joker in a Batman movie. Hard to have a serious conversation when Roger is laughing so hard he spills his tea and sprays crumpets all over you.
    Suck it up and stop your crying.

  7. So the league is admitting the refs are HORRIBLE! It’s not just the roughing the passer either. Watched the Pats – Bills game yesterday, and the PI calls in the game were, you guessed it HORRIBLE! I hate the PI rule. It is so subjective for such a big penalty. It could be a 40 or 50 yard penalty and the refs can’t even get it close to right most of the time. #plummeting ratings.

  8. The officials missed 3 roughing calls against Cam on opening night! Give me a break…. getting sick of all their denials about everything! Show the PSI levels Rog!

  9. That is the NFL’s reply…..?

    “Oh, don’t worry, we screw up a lot more on other QBs…”

    Ayiyi. How many attorneys does the NFL employ? And they come up with that?

  10. LOL so their excuse for being incompetent is that they are even more incompetent regarding other teams/players?

    The NFL needs to get ahold of all these bad and missed calls because its turning me off to the games big time. Im sure it plays a part in ratings going south. I find myself turning the games off in disgust when teams are absolutely robbed by a bad call or miss an egregious penalty.

  11. Yea the refs miss calls but you asked to get clocked by Deon Jones when you slowed down and tried to show boat on a two point conversion. And if you are going to be a running qb as opposed to a qb that can run you will collect a lot of hits.

  12. What Cam is missing is that the majority of the “missed calls” he is complaining about, he is considered a runner.

    Now, if he would have complained about the lack of personal fouls due to high hits (head shots) or defensive players leading with the crown of their helmet against him, the NFL’s numbers might agree more with him.

  13. I’m confused!! The league has made a statement I agree with…. but I know everything they say is a lie… buy Pam..err Cam is a classic example of being a pop tart. I hate you Cam for making me agree with the NFL.

  14. Great Answer NFL. Cam . you think you have it bad, you should see how bad we have screwed other qb’s …. Like Mike Vick for example.

  15. Somehow, Blandumbo is responsible for this response. He’s admitted in the past that the referees aren’t getting worse, they’ve always sucked. The league office is basically saying the same thing: “Don’t worry, Cam. It’s not just you. We’ve been missing calls across the board pretty frequently since 2013.”

    Dummies

  16. Cam is the biggest softest qb I’ve ever seen. Nobody comes close. Well maybe Rodgers comes close. But cam is as soft as a feather pillow. Brett Favre took some of the biggest illegal hits ever, you don’t see him whining like a girl. If football is to tough for you cam, then retire and get a desk job or play golf or tennis. You just showed the whole world how soft your becoming. Your becoming afraid to get knocked out. As big as you are, you should be embarrassed. Maybe if you weren’t a showboating hotdog , defenses would respect you more. Keep showboating and disrespecting defenses and you get what you deserve. Enjoy some humble pie.

  17. NLF’s hypocrisy on player safety is almost laughable. There were two missed roughing the passer calls on Cam in this one game alone! And you expect me to believe your refs only missed 3 since 2013?

  18. Some of you people need to learn the difference between raising legitimate concerns and whining.

    Questioning the application of the personal foul rules is a legitimate concern. Posting that Cam is a “whiner” is whining.

  19. So, NFL, your defense is that we allow everyone to be in a position to receive a career-ending, life-altering injury so Cam should just shut up. Not, we are trying to get this thing cleaned up. Not, we might change the replay rules to allow coaches to challenge a missed egregious hit. Just we put everyone at risk so deal with the late, illegal hits and shut up.

  20. The NFL thinks taking the position that they missed more RTP calls for other QBs helps their argument? The problem is that these calls are being missed.

    The NFL running a hospital:
    “Yes, Mr. Newton, we botched your surgery. You shouldn’t be too upset, though, as we’ve botched more surgeries for these other patients.”

  21. Man… Cam’s true colors are coming to the surface… when it’s going well.. it’s all rainbows… unicorns.. and kissing himself all over…. when it’s blowing up in his face… it waa… waa… they hit hard… and waa….. geez… what a crybaby…

  22. NFL’s position on Cam Newton: 11 quarterbacks have more missed roughing calls since 2013…I believe the NFL 100%..tells me everything I need to know about the competency of NFL officials…

  23. Poor Cam. All he talks about is how this isn’t “fun” anymore.

    Cam needs to work a 9-to-5 for a couple of years–he might find out people have jobs to put food on the table and to support their families.

    “Fun” isn’t part of the equation, unless you are a self-entitled whiner who believes in delivering his serious dictates while wearing a Leprechaun costume.

  24. NFL office response is a joke because they’ve proven you can’t trust them. I wish Cam wouldn’t publicly whine about it, but If that happened to Brady, Brees or Rogers (the low hit on the knee), we all know they’d get that call.

  25. I know a lot of fans are going to downvote me, but this is just insane how much the league waivers between decisions.

    On one hand, you have an all time punishment coming down for something that other players get their hands slapped for, but then you have QBs like Cam Newton getting major hits (that are against the rules) “missed.”

    “Consistency” is not a word the NFL understands. It’s not just ‘safety’ that the NFLPA should be concerned about. It’s the entire package.

    Of course, Roger Goodell and friends think the fans are too stupid to understand the intricacies of the rules.

  26. If you believe anything the league office sends out, I’ve got a bridge that goes from Manhattan to Brooklyn I can sell you at a good price.

    Hey Roger, if PSI #’s are so important to the “Integrity of the game”, why haven’t you published them?

  27. pftcommenter2 says:
    Oct 31, 2016 7:17 AM

    2013 is an arbitrary number. I wonder why they started there.

    Probably because that’s when Cam joined the NFL?

  28. he whines about missed calls, how about a touchdown that wasn’t, a fumble that wasn’t, a game he didn’t really win. but still he whines. race card next.

  29. superpatriotsfan says:
    Oct 31, 2016 9:11 AM
    Funny, if Brady said the same thing, homers would be agreeing with him.
    __________________
    Except that Brady isn’t a crybaby and would never complain.

  30. The leagues response should have been…”Roughing calls? Hahaha, we miss so much more than roughing calls. We can’t even agree on what a catch is! Roughing calls? Have you seen how many holding and PI calls we miss?

  31. Notice who is not on the list…Tom Brady. Why? The MOST protected QB in the league. If defensive players get too close to Tommie boy and pass gas, they draw a 15 yard penalty.

  32. You know Cam, you’d have more credibility if hadn’t gone from spending all last season hamming it up on the sideline, pretending to be superman and posing for selfies every game

    Only to be caught diving away from your own fumble on the worlds biggest stage in front of 120 million viewers with the game on the line…

    grow up cupcake…

  33. Let me talk this through ’cause I sometimes have a difficult time understanding abstract concepts: the league is essentially saying “Mr. Newton, you have no complaint because, in a QB – driven league, our semi – elderly, part time officials have bleeped up calls more often for eleven other guys than is the case with you.”

    Only at 345 Park Avenue would chronic incompetence be acknowledged and offered up as a defense.

  34. I’m betting you the 11 or so guys who have gotten more calls wrong on them DON’T include Brady, Manning, Brees, etc i.e. the guys they tell the refs to protect.

    The guys who have more missed calls are probably other mobile QBs and also 2nd tier QBs they don’t care about.

    The refs are bad, and between either inconsistent and intentionally biased towards certain teams/players.

  35. Could you imagine Johnny Unitas or Sam Huff or Fran Tarkenton in today’s league??? How about Bobby Layne and Archie Manning?? QB’s are treated like they are made of glass and here this prima dona wants to whine about how they don’t call roughing on him??? Give me a freaking break!!

  36. superpatriotsfan says:
    Oct 31, 2016 9:11 AM
    Funny, if Brady said the same thing, homers would be agreeing with him.
    **********************************************
    Brady knows better than to say something like this because it’s a no win sure fire loss.

  37. NFL responded to Newton in 12 hours, they still have not corrected the original PSI numbers from January 18 2015 or released PSI data from last year. Restore INTEGRITY and fire the serial liar Goodell.

  38. Notice that 9 of those QBs are garbage.
    Or at the very least, not considered great. So, the league does protect the special qbs and not all.

  39. A fair percentage of those called are borderline so they’re either admitting the officials are blind or a bunch of these “misses” would be what the fans would call clean plays.

  40. manzoa says:
    Oct 31, 2016 9:40 AM
    Notice who is not on the list…Tom Brady. Why? The MOST protected QB in the league. If defensive players get too close to Tommie boy and pass gas, they draw a 15 yard penalty.

    Hey Manzoa, there are probably 40 plus additional QB’s that have played in the NFL since 2013 who are not on this list, yet you pick out Tom Brady for special treatment.
    It seems you may have some kind of MANZOA crush Tom Brady.

  41. The NFL shouldn’t have a position on cam. The ONLY reason that they do is because of a butter soft schedule last year exposed the player you see today. Mold grows in the shadows, let him grow.

  42. Hey Cam, maybe you should go whine to your GM and tell him to get you a better offensive line…

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    Also..

    superpatriotsfan says:
    Oct 31, 2016 9:11 AM

    Funny, if Brady said the same thing, homers would be agreeing with him.

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    This just in: fans of NFL teams would prefer to not have their quarterback take cheap hits. Studies indicate that these fans would agree with their team’s QB if he said he was getting missed calls. This is a wild twist to the developing situation that is unfolding here in this comment section, where fans that dislike a QB from another team are disagreeing with that QB. We’ll update this story as we get more details.

  43. Then why doesn’t the NFL fine and/or suspend these officials who constantly screw up?

    Nevermind, it’s because second to the packers, the officials are the most protected in the No
    Fun
    League

  44. OH! I know why it seems like Cam get’s hit more and get’s less calls than those other QB’s…..because those other 11 qb’s, or any of the other one’s in the NFL don’t cry and pout about it at the press conference after the game.

  45. Keenum has 22 starts and is on the list with 4+ already?

    wow. The NFL is going to get that guy killed.

    Smith, Cousins and McCown all have 32 or less starts. Just two years to make the list.

    The Bills game yesterday had three instances where roughing the passer could have been called. Hightower makes initial contact with Taylor just as he goes out of bounds (and releases a pass) but hangs on and Taylor goes down hard about 10 yards OOB. This was a pretty blatant penalty to me but it wasn’t called. Later in the game Brady is hit late on two separate plays. Neither is a hard hit. The Lawson play was ridiculously late and drew a flag. The first play was less obvious and wasn’t penalized.

    All QB’s get calls missed. Some less than others and it probably has something to do with their status. I don’t think it is league mandate to favor some QB’s over others. I just think human nature is difficult to remove from a referee.

  46. Regardless of the roughing non-calls, Cam’s fashion statement at the post-game presser was awesome. I’m sure it gave the haters a little break from their depression and despair at having such dull personalities. Cam is pretty cool that way. Always working to lift the spirits of the downtrodden in life.

  47. “From the league’s perspective, the officials have missed three roughing calls on Cam since the start of the 2013 season. (Yes, that seems low.)”

    No, it doesn’t seem low. It seems like a bald-faced lie. There were more than that in the first half of the first game.

  48. No way I buy that list. I don’t buy that at all. Half of these QBs have been injured half the time. I also don’t buy that they’ve had someone reviewing all games since 2013 to look for missed roughing calls. Hilarious.

    Secondly, their response to missing a bunch of calls against Cam is…

    We screwed up worse on other QBs so shutup? Really?

  49. Forget the Denver game, the refs missed 3 roughing the passer calls on Cam YESTERDAY.

    Good thing the NFL has a track record of being upfront and not lying to cover their own behinds.

  50. Cam wants every call, every time. That is simply never going to happen. There are 22 players on the field and seven officials.

    It’s simple math. Once in a while, the officials have to avert their gaze from His Royal Majesty and pay attention to the other 21 guys.

  51. And the NFL wonders why they are losing fans. Anyone with eyes to see can tell the refs treat quarterbacks differently in this league and Newton has called them out on it. The right thing to do is own it and fix it. Instead the NFL leadership explains statistically that Newton is correct, and therefore its OK to ignore it. Brilliant!!

  52. somethinsbruin says:
    Oct 31, 2016 6:52 AM
    Only the NFL could explain away the inadequacy of their refs by citing more ref inadequacy. They truly don’t get it.

    Hit the nail on the head, my friend.. The NFL’s reasoning is “Its ok, we’ve missed plenty more than that”.

    Seems legit.

  53. If Cam was the size of Doug Flutie he might get those called,
    he’s NOT – He’s a BIG, physical & mobile QB..so quit whining about him getting belted if he’s stupid enough to stand in the pocket while it’s collapsing around him – you may consider a talk with OLC on some better pass protection!

  54. blackqbwhiterb says:
    Oct 31, 2016 7:50 AM
    If you dress like that in a press conference you deserve what you get
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    So you feel that if a person wears clothes that you don’t like, than anything bad that happens to them at anytime is their own fault? Because they have different taste in clothes than you?! Are you pretending to be stu.pid or are you for real?

    Voting for trump/drumpf, yeah?

  55. If it was Tom Brady whining like that after a game, Goodell wouldn’t even give him an appointment. Some games there aren’t enough flags thrown, others where there is one every other down. It’s frustrating, but that is the NFL as we know it. I’m not sticking up for Cam Newton, but there should be some type of consequences for the refs too. They are NFL employees as well, but I doubt anything will change. In Newton’s case, unless he stops playing balls to the wall, the hits will keep on coming, and not every one will draw a roughing the QB penalty.

  56. chaseutley says:
    Oct 31, 2016 11:40 AM
    Cam wants every call, every time. That is simply never going to happen. There are 22 players on the field and seven officials.

    It’s simple math. Once in a while, the officials have to avert their gaze from His Royal Majesty and pay attention to the other 21 guys.

    Sadly, that’s not true. The umpire is responsible for anything in the pocket (ie, holding, qb hits, etc…), and hes right behind the play. That’s his job. He is right there watching the play, especially when the QB drops back to pass and is NOT a runner (yet), in Cam’s case. Once he takes off, all bets are off. But on this play, he stood in the pocket, released the ball, THEN was hit low. Really low. They gotta call that. The rules should be the same for everyone, regardless of what you wear to the post game presser.

  57. Wait. I meant the Referee is behind the play. Umpire is behind the defense. My bad, but the argument still stands.

  58. if the officials are so bad they have missed numerous roughing the passer calls, they need to be firing more officials every year. Worried about player safety my Goodall

  59. patsfanintn says:
    Oct 31, 2016 9:34 AM

    pftcommenter2 says:
    Oct 31, 2016 7:17 AM

    2013 is an arbitrary number. I wonder why they started there.

    Probably because that’s when Cam joined the NFL?
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    Incorrect. Cam’s rookie year was 2011. The Panthers have played 80 regular season games and 6 playoff games in that time, and Cam has started 83 of them (3 missed games all regular season games). They missed 4 in the Denver game (they threw one flag but offset it with an intentional grounding flag on the same play, as apparently when you get clubbed helmet-to-helmet, you are still required to get the pass beyond the line of scrimmage, so that counts as a missed call). They missed 2 yesterday.

    All those that are calling Cam a whiner would be saying the same things Cam did if it was the QB of their favorite team not getting the calls – especially Brady. I love the “Brady wouldn’t whine” lines. The Panthers beat the Pats at home in 2013 on a Monday night on a questionable game-ending play that could have had a pass interference call, and you didn’t need any lip-reading skills to see that Brady was calling the ref every filthy name in the English language on the way to the locker room. Last year at Minnesota, Teddy Bridgewater got his clock cleaned on an illegal hit, no flag. Later that game, a Vikings defender got flagged for hitting Rodgers in the side with his shoulder. If you don’t believe the NFL has specific standards for about 4-5 QBs and lower standards for the others, you are a complete fool.

    And are you fools really saying that Cam deserves to get hit helmet-to-helmet and in the back of the knee because of his wardrobe? C’mon, folks. It’s time to join 2016. No matter how much ‘Bama fans scream it, Cam did not get paid at Auburn, he is not a cheater, and he is no more evil than the rest of us. It’s time to put down your irrational hatred that is based on a lie and look at things clearly. Cam Newton is NOT the only one who does end zone dances. Cam Newton is NOT the only one with rotten fashion sense. Cam Newton does NOT deserve to get hit helmet-to-helmet or in the back of the knee when he is standing in the pocket.

    Y’all are calling for Cam to grow up when you are the ones that need to grow up.

  60. We all know Cam whines a lot but this isn’t JUST about HIM. I agree with some here that say there has to be some form of consequence for the Refs that miss these type of calls. If players don’t feel safe out on the field then they are going to take their money and start retiring early. Imagine what that will do to the game if these guys start bailing after two or three years? It will crush the NFL and the viewership. The league needs to get on top of this issue quickly before the game (and GOOD players) starts to disappear altogether.

    And yes, I agree that the fact they are tracking these stats but not doing anything with them is alarming. The NFLPA should be too.

  61. ricko1112 says:
    Oct 31, 2016 9:37 AM
    superpatriotsfan says:
    Oct 31, 2016 9:11 AM
    Funny, if Brady said the same thing, homers would be agreeing with him.
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    Except that Brady isn’t a crybaby and would never complain.

    OMG! I cant believe that even a homer would write that. Brady is the biggest whiner/crybaby for calls and sulks when losing. Even cries on the sideline. What Brady are YOU watching?

  62. As a die hard Bears fan I knew Jay Cutler would be on the list. I say at least 3 times a game “If that was Aaron Rodgers that would have been a 15 yard penalty”
    Sucks that certain QB’s get the calls and others do not.

  63. I can vouch for Cutler. He never gets calls and people beat the crap out of him on a regular basis. Newton used to get calls then he complained about the ref and they suddenly started missing hits on him.

  64. “We all know Cam whines a lot but this isn’t JUST about HIM. I agree with some here that say there has to be some form of consequence for the Refs that miss these type of calls. If players don’t feel safe out on the field then they are going to take their money and start retiring early. ”

    When Quinton Burfict’s coach and the union stop defending his assaults and batteries, then I’ll feel more like it’s just the refs’ fault.

  65. NFL: “It’s not a problem. We let all kinds of quarterbacks get hit illegally. The quarterback protection rules are only to be used when it helps a Darling Team, like the Packers.”

  66. They have something in Hockey the NFL could easily adopt. You take a dive and its considered a dive its 15 yards against you.

    Yesterday one pass rusher who tried to pull up and not hit the QB after he threw the ball, barely touched the guy and the QB went down and rolled over like a truck hit him. thats bs too.

  67. Okay so the list includes several QBs that are injured every year, or beaten down every game on poor teams. That really is setting the gold standard there NFL. Protect the shield though right.

  68. Remember the thumb-rub rule? It says, “Any touching of a Packer quarterback’s facemask by an opposing thumb automatically extends the game if it helps the Packers”

  69. The Packers hit the Bear’s quarterback in the head twice. They hit him low. They hit him high and low at the same time. They broke his arm.

    Not one penalty was called.

  70. The dude is mentally SOFT!

    * Gets out of the way instead of diving on loose ball in SB.
    * All dancing and fun when going well, hiding under a towel or whining and moping when things get tough. Has been this way his entire professional career.
    * Walks out of press conferences when he didn’t win.
    * Complains about inequality in roughing of him when he isn’t the most roughed QB yet he runs (holds onto the ball) the most.

    Maybe someday his mental ability will catch up with his physical ability.

  71. You knew Flacco and Roethlisberger were on the list – amazing that they’ve won superbowls. Very interesting who isn’t on the list ie Brady, Manning, Brees, Rodgers. Maybe its easier to be good when they’re not allowed to touch you

  72. The League has credibility issues because the refs are inept. To the point you question if it isn’t manipulating the outcomes of games, more often than we are use to. The refs do not know what a catch or fumble is. 23 calls the Jags sent to the league office after the opening game 27-23 loss to the packers.23 calls.

  73. This “stat” about Cam is a flat out lie. Don’t tell me that you all trust the NFL now…

    Yeah, I wish Cam had left out the line about not having fun. It overshadowed his point and gave the haters something to focus on besides the real issue. But lets be real, he’s speaking live to the media moments after a game. You morons have unlimited time to type out your comments and proofread them before posting and most of you still can’t publish anything that resembles intelligent thought.

  74. Goddell : ” there are eleven QBs that we’ve missed more roughing calls on than Cam. Well ten plus Tom Brady. So there are ten QBs that we’ve missed more roughing calls on than Cam”

  75. This guy is a big baby. When he wins he rubs it in with his antics on the field . (Why no taunting calls against him?). When he loses he cries. He may have ” man” football skills but his maturity level is strictly “child”.

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