Teams are allowed to have walkie-talkies on the sidelines, they just can’t speak into them

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The Giants’ walkie-talkie scandal (which already has been given a couple of interesting nicknames but none I really like) gives rise to an intriguing question: How did the team happen to have a walkie-talkie on the same frequency as the coach-to-quarterback communication system readily available?

Teams are allowed to have a walkie-talkie on the sideline. It’s used, as one source explained it, to monitor the coach-to-quarterback communications. Per another source, a reminder memo sent to all teams before the 2016 regular season pointed out that the backup quarterback may listen to the communications via the walkie-talkie — but that he may not speak into it.

The same memo made it clear that the coach cannot use the walkie-talkie, in any way.

In this case, the Giants made an abrupt executive decision to let coach Ben McAdoo use the walkie-talkie once the coach-to-quarterback system stopped working. It was a clear violation of the rules.

As of Friday, the Giants were facing only a potential fine. It remains to be seen whether Hall of Fame coach Tony Dungy’s comments on the situation cause the league to take a different view of a clear and blatant violation that plenty of teams would be willing to commit if the consequence is the NFL’s equivalent of a parking ticket.

The fact that the Giants quickly confessed may help them avoid a stiffer penalty. Short of the “it wasn’t me” defense, however, there’s nothing they could have done. The video clearly and plainly showed McAdoo using the walkie-talkie.

44 responses to “Teams are allowed to have walkie-talkies on the sidelines, they just can’t speak into them

  1. After the Giants receive their $2,000 (that’s two thousand) fine, every coach should just pick up a walkie and have at it. Peanuts to pay for some extra chat time with your QB. I’d be willing to bet that somehow the penalties would be stiffer for certain teams.

  2. Seems to be an even more blatant violation of the “integrity of the game” rule than Deflate-gate.
    Why do i get the feeling the Giants will not get anywhere near the penalty as the Pats & Brady? Roger, we’re watching! I’m sure you’re going to screw it up…

  3. .

    Why wasn’t the Cowboys communication system instantly shut off also PER LEAGUE RULES?
    why no mention of that rule?
    Why is the nfl not being fined for not following the rules?

  4. They admitted to tampering with footballs and to using a walkie-talkie, why is Goodell not hiring Ted Wells to launch a multi-millionaire dollar investigation?

  5. jstamper3377 says:
    Dec 17, 2016 9:54 PM
    Sorry, no extra credit for admitting to it. The Pats admitted to spygate. Good bye 1st round pick.
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    They also got caught the year before spygate and were told to stop. Maybe that had something to do with it?

  6. This should be a 1st round pick and no Mcadoo for the playoffs.

    If Goodell can punish his former BFF Kraft he can certainly punish Mara. Might take time and cost Dallas a 1st round bye, but it will happen eventually.

  7. Why are the Giants allowed to tamper with game balls by sticking air guage needles into them during games and get away with it. Will someone tell me?

  8. bannedfromchoirpractice says:
    Dec 17, 2016 10:14 PM
    jstamper3377 says:
    Dec 17, 2016 9:54 PM
    Sorry, no extra credit for admitting to it. The Pats admitted to spygate. Good bye 1st round pick.
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    They also got caught the year before spygate and were told to stop. Maybe that had something to do with it?
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    Video taping from the sideline wasn’t against the rules the year before. Why are the Patriots the only team that have to follow rules that don’t exist yet?

  9. How is this different than Spygate in any meaningful way. McAdoo should be fined $250,000 and the Giants stripped of a 1st round pick.

  10. dansardo says:
    Dec 17, 2016 10:41 PM

    Why are the Giants allowed to tamper with game balls by sticking air guage needles into them during games and get away with it. Will someone tell me?
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    And why were the Colts allowed to get away with the same thing in January 2015?

  11. bannedfromchoirpractice says:
    Dec 17, 2016 10:14 PM

    They also got caught the year before spygate and were told to stop. Maybe that had something to do with it?

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    Except that the year before spygate it was allowed by NFL rules and it was being done by all the teams. A memo changed the location but the coach interpreted part of the memo differently than the way that Goodell wanted it to be interpreted. And Goodell didn’t like being questioned.

  12. One for the thumb says:
    Dec 17, 2016 10:44 PM

    Video taping from the sideline wasn’t against the rules the year before. Why are the Patriots the only team that have to follow rules that don’t exist yet?They didn’t have to follow rules that didn’t exist. They got in trouble for rules that did exist. Why do you guys try and twist the truth?
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    They weren’t penalized for rules that didn’t exist. They were penalized for rules that did (and do) exist. Twist the truth all you want. By the way, how’s the weather in your alternate universe?

  13. bannedfromchoirpractice says:
    Dec 17, 2016 10:14 PM

    They also got caught the year before spygate and were told to stop. Maybe that had something to do with it?
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    You must be thinking about 2006, when the Jets got caught filming the Patriots. No truth twisting there.

  14. “….nothing is close to the longtime, widespread cheating of the New England Patriots.”
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    As long as you keep your eyes closed and believe in Goodell, just follow the pied piper.

  15. Pats Fan in NJ, who doesnt hate the Giants. This isnt a big deal at all, I just dont appreciate my team being punished for things that can be misconstrued as cheating and other teams not. I am not saying the Giants cheated, I am saying Goodells punishments are subjective and on the fly and it needs to stop. This wont happen until the next CBA, if then. It doesnt really matter if we cares its up to 32 billionaires.

  16. Wait, there was a league memo and a team did something to violate the directives in that memo? The NFL’s precedent is clear; the Giants should start figuring out what prospects will be available in the 2nd round of the 2017 draft.

  17. I am curious about a couple of things. First, why is NE being drug into this? Second, Stephen Jones apparently stated it had no bearing on the outcome of the game. How would he come to that conclusion?

  18. It was illegal to tape sideline coaches from the spot the Patriots were taping them the whole time Belichick was a coach of the Patriots. It didn’t just become a rule in 2007. The league sent out a memo in 2007 reminding teams of the rule as a result of the Patriots being warned about it prior to the second time they got caught

    I live in New England and it is crazy some of the misinformation Patriots fan believe about both Spygate and Deflategate. It perpetuated by the media and sports talk radio here. This is why so many Pats fans have this huge persecution complex. They believe a bunch of BS that makes the Patriots look better.

  19. Mr. Wright 212 says:
    Dec 17, 2016 10:07 PM
    Predictable… Patriots fans turn up en masse …blah…blah…blah…

    At the time you posted your message, only one known Pats fan had posted on this thread, and the above was your second post.

    Not everyone who is pointing out that the Giants were caught cheating with walkie talkies, and may in fact have been cheating for years with walkie talkies (only a thorough independent investigation, which will never happen, could determine that), is a Pats fan.

  20. Falcons got a $350k fine and lost a fifth rounder with the illegal crowd noise

    Cleveland $250k and four game suspension (and surprisingly no loss of a draft pick)

    the NY Giants are on the clock – the world watches.

  21. .
    The Goodell logic :

    ” The Giants send their plays in by walkie talkie. The Cowboys by smoke signal. They’re both methods of communication, therefore the league’s competitive balance was unaffected. ”
    .

  22. dansardo says:
    Dec 17, 2016 10:41 PM
    Why are the Giants allowed to tamper with game balls by sticking air guage needles into them during games and get away with it. Will someone tell me?

    ????????????????????????????????????????????
    I will be glad to tell you.

    Once a player intercepts a pass and he keeps the other team’s ball, it is NO LONGER is a game ball. It is his. He can stick anything he wants to it.

  23. They weren’t penalized for rules that didn’t exist. They were penalized for rules that did (and do) exist. Twist the truth all you want. By the way, how’s the weather in your alternate universe?

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    Just treat Giants the same. They intentionally broke a rule, therefore they are blatant cheaters. Lose some picks and fire up the childish, cheat themed nicknames.

  24. Spygate – Admitted to rule violation that offered no ingame competitive advantive after a memo was sent in the offseason.

    Talkie Scandal – Admitted to rule violation that offers a clear ingame competitive advantage after a memo was sent in the offseason.

  25. Mr. Wright 212 says:
    Dec 17, 2016 9:54 PM

    You can keep trying, Florio, but nothing is close to the longtime, widespread cheating of the New England Patriots.

    Mr. Wright 212 says:
    Dec 17, 2016 10:07 PM

    Predictable… Patriots fans turn up en masse trying to make this seem worse than their cheating enterprise has engaged in over the past 15 years hahaha.
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    Mr. Wright is obviously a hater and a supporter of a last-place team, Jets or Browns or Jaguars. He wishes he was a Patriots fan so he could appreciate a great team, but his ego won’t allow him to. Haters gotta hate, they hate us ’cause they ain’t us.

  26. sandman34rt says:
    Dec 17, 2016 10:48 PM
    Does any one actually care about this, honestly, who cares?
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    The rules specifically state when one side loses headset communication the other side stops using there’s until it is restored. The officials allowing the use of the walkie speaks to an inherent bias. We should all care about that.

  27. So the Giants, knowing the other team’s headsets would be shut down to the defensive side used the walkie talkie to great advantage knowing exactly what was going on.

    That should be at least a 3rd round pick they lose minimum.

  28. Can’t they just provide one more headset, sans microphone, to the back up quarterback? Seems kind of dumb to have him listening in on a walkie-talkie.

  29. I watched the Giants game and thought McAdoo was talking to the booth, not Eli… do we know that walkie went to the helmet?

    Regardless, when comm goes down they are supposed to shut the other team down too – why did no officials step in at any point here (the walkie wasn’t exactly hidden)?

    The issue here isn’t the penalty, it’s the inconsistency in which penalties are meted out. I guess the league dropping the hammer on McAdoo will make Pats fans feel better?

    NE was screwed over – way over-penalized for deflategate. Should have been a fine at best. As this should be too – two wrongs don’t make a right.

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