Spanos admits he’s leaning toward L.A. move

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The next time the fans of the visiting team outnumber the fans of the home team in a game between the Raiders and Chargers, the home team may be in playing in the city the visiting team once called home.

Chargers owner Dean Spanos admitted on Sunday that he’s leaning toward exercising his right to move to Los Angeles.

Spanos initially made the comments to Scott Kaplan of CBS, and Spanos then elaborated after the game.

“I said I was not going to make up my mind until after the season,” Spanos said, via Kevin Acee of the San Diego Union-Tribune. “[Kaplan] asked the question, ‘Are you closer to leaving than staying?’ I said, ‘That would probably be an accurate statement.’ I also said I’m not going to make up my mind until after the season. . . . Everything is in place. I’m waiting on the city of San Diego.”

As Spanos waits, time is running out. The deadline for doing a deal with the Rams to share space in Inglewood arrives on January 15.

Spanos is widely expected to move, due in large part to the absence of any viable plan to keep the team in town. A recent non-offer to give the Chargers a 99-year, $1 annual lease, supported by two City Council members who opposed the ballot measure that failed miserably last month, rubbed Spanos the wrong way.

So did the outcome of the vote, which managed a positive outcome of only 43 percent. On Sunday, Spanos acknowledged that, if the vote (which needed to get 66 percent to pass) had gotten at least 50 percent in the affirmative, Spanos “mostly likely, probably” would have felt differently.

At this point, the Chargers “most likely, probably” will be leaving, barring a miracle even bigger than anything that could be expected on Christmas, Festivus, or any other major holiday, real or made up.

62 responses to “Spanos admits he’s leaning toward L.A. move

  1. Cheap DB. Just because you can’t get your way, you have to pick up and leave?
    I feel bad for the season ticket holders in SD and hope folks stay away from the Chargers and the Rams. It’s not like there isn’t anything else you could do in the California sun. smh

  2. Another transparent ploy. Does he think the residents of SD are that stupid? Nice to see the SD citizenry staying so classy. No more free stadiums for Billionaires.

  3. The Chargers are going to end up calling SD’s bluff. That’s the bad part of sports: “if you don’t give me what I want, [some other place] will.” With Rivers getting up there in age (as well as productivity), coupled with the “new” LA Rams’ performance, I can’t see moving to LA being a good thing right now–especially with no top-tier QBs in the upcoming draft. I would think fans would say “no thanks, we already have the Rams stealing our money…”

  4. “The next time the fans of the visiting team outnumber the fans of the home team in a game between the Raiders and Chargers, the home team may be in playing in the city the visiting team once called home.”

    What?

  5. San Diego fans would like to keep their part-time job of selling their tickets to Raider fans. Just an aside if anyone’s listening.

  6. Is it coincidence that the two California teams looking for a new location are headed up by possibly the worst owners in the league? Can either team actually afford the relocation fees without requiring help? I hate to say that I think these teams would both be staying where they are if they had better owners. You know, the kind who care about their team, city and fans. Not just the control and $$ that come with it. I would love to see both teams be sold to new owners.

  7. Lol the Rams are already losing the LA market after just one bad season. Now you want to add another bad team and have 2 black holes of suck playing there, and actually think this plan will be successful?

  8. …..can’t wait for 2020….by then the fallout will be clear on LA fans disintrest with BOTH the Rams & Chargers. The only next logical next step will be to send/force one of the teams overseas………London Chargers in 2021.

  9. “The next time the fans of the visiting team outnumber the fans of the home team in a game between the Raiders and Chargers, the home team may be in playing in the city the visiting team once called home.”

    All this sentence needed was a classic “Unless they don’t.”

  10. “Terrible owner with no other options now leaning towards his only option”

    Spanos has so little leverage they’ll be lucky if their home games don’t go off with “Rams” still painted in the end zones.

  11. The owners want a game in LA every week just like in NY. Spanos wants to move because it will add value to his networth being the owner of a team that’s in LA rather than SD. It’s all about money.

  12. i’ve been a long time chargers fan. But after watching them for 20+ years and seeing they’re going nowhere, i realized that there are lots of other things to do here: surfing, biking, mountain biking, hiking, soccer, walk on the beach, etc… just about anything you can do other than wasting 4 hours on Sunday watching the below average team playing football. It’s not like in Boston where it freezes your behind off and you can’t go nowhere but to stay home and watch football. So moving or staying at this point, it doesn’t bother me at all

  13. Willing to borrow money to pay relocation fee’s. Not wiling to borrow money to build in SD. Pretty much all the information needed about that JAN 15th decision.

  14. Hey Spanos. No one in here in LA wants the Chargers. We’re not going to give you a single cent of taxpayer money either.

  15. I don’t think there are many worse owners than Spanos in all of sports. This guy just doesn’t get it. Former players and coaches hate him. Everyone outside of San Diego despises this guy and hence, his team. The majority of people in San Diego despise this guy, but LOVE the team. LA will not tolerate a loser. The only way the Chargers franchise survives this fiasco is to stay in San Diego. No other market will sustain them unless under new ownership.

  16. Spanos needs to re-brand the Chargers.

    Leave the name, history, and logos in San Diego and make the team a virtual expansion team.

    That’s the ONLY way he’ll have a shot at making his team successful in LA.

  17. Spanos has to move. The ignorant morons of San Diego voted against measure C. It was a plan that TOURISTS and VISITORS would have funded. San Diego isn’t an NFL city anymore.

    Hopefully Spanos considers STL and San Antonio, but Los Angeles is there if he wants it. The era of the San Diego Chargers is over.

  18. Spanos et al would have a stadium if they’d act “in good faith” and work toward a solution at the current site. Instead the Spanos ownership has whined and disrespected a community that has supported a team that’s been a below average product for some time.

    Maybe the NFL can force the Spanos’ to sell and find an ownership group that appreciates San Diego.

  19. Spanos got greedy and tried to con voters into giving him prime downtown/east village land for free because that’s what the Padres got 15 years ago to build their stadium. He has acted like a whiny little punk throughout because voters didn’t want to hand the man a few hundred million dollars in development opportunity. If he was truly interested in getting something done, he would have worked with the city and county to build at the current site.

    He is a favorite of the NFL (that’s why he got right of 1st refusal in LA), so I’m sure the league is going to help him more than it’ll help Mark Davis (who the NFL desperately wants to have sell his team to someone who better fits their image) and will end up botching both situations by ruining two highly populated metros for football.

    As someone said above, they’ll allow him to borrow $550M to move, but not to stay…says everything you need to hear.

  20. Move your damn team already. Change the name and just move. Go to LA and have a party with Stanly Steamer and Kevin Demoff . Count all the money you will have. Never mind the fans you will leave behind that have supported your awful team for many years. Two horrible owners in the same city , perfect. LA will sure be a hot bed of football , wont it .

  21. The NFL should downsize. They could merge the Rams with the Chargers rosters and they would have a pretty good team. Merge Cleveland and Jacksonville too.

    I’m proud of the city of San Diego for not getting bullied by a $12 Billion a year industry, who want to nickel and dime fans and communities so that they can have a free billion dollar stadium. Have fun in LA trying to sell half of your tickets, while Kroneke nickel and dimes Spanos as the LA step child.

  22. The Chargers aren’t going anywhere. There is NO way Spanos will pay 650 million JUST to relocate. He’s way too cheap. He just keeps up the “we’re likely moving” as an attempt to “strike fear” in us San Diegans. Not gonna’ work.

    The City has been MORE than good to Spanos in the past with deals such as buying un-sold tickets for YEARS! And that’s just one thing.

    There is a perfectly good plan for building in Mission Valley, right next to the current stadium that he just keeps saying “No” to. My bet is that’s where they will end up when all is said and done.

    We LOVE our team… just not the owner and coach.

  23. If the Chargers move:

    1 – they have to pay a relocation fee of > $600 million to the league

    2 – the Rams locked in all the corporate sponsors and have PSL deposits. The Chargers will have a much harder time selling tickets, especially with high PSL prices.

    3 – Kroenke will drive a hard bargain and the Chargers will not get a good deal on rent or any other revenue.

    How much higher will the Chargers revenue be in LA vs San Diego? Will the PSL sales offset most of the relocation fee?

    What would really hurt the Chargers is the Rams playing well. Going 9-7 in 2017.

  24. Not much of a surprise. He’s lost his local fanbase. So if he’s going to play in front of a stadium filled with visiting fans, might as well do it in LA where he can double the franchise value while barely paying any rent in Kroenke’s house.

  25. If he wants to be the Clippers of the NFL go right ahead. If playing in a shiny stadium is more important than playing where your fan base is then have at it.

  26. “If he wants to be the Clippers of the NFL go right ahead. If servicing your vast greed by stealing hundreds of millions from the taxpayers while giving them a substandard product is more important than playing where your fan base is, then have at it.”

    There, fixed your statement for you.

  27. harrisonhits2 says:
    Dec 19, 2016 1:59 PM
    “If he wants to be the Clippers of the NFL go right ahead. If servicing your vast greed by stealing hundreds of millions from the taxpayers while giving them a substandard product is more important than playing where your fan base is, then have at it.”

    There, fixed your statement for you.

    ———–

    What taxpayer money will he be stealing? Kroenke is building the stadium, he’ll be nothing more than a tenant, but it’ll take nothing from taxpayers.

  28. Let’s be honest, LA barely deserves one team, let alone two. The city hasn’t held on to a team. The NFL wants to be there because of TV. Spanos is a douche bag billionaire who wants to screw the tax payer for a new stadium. The city sadly since they support that crap team he owns (and it’s his fault they stink) should not bend to this hump.

  29. The ownership of the San Diego Chargers have treated the local fan base horribly!! 43% of the vote on Prop C is actually higher than many thought due to Dean and his cronies trying to move to Carson all last season. Now he is up to his old tricks, don;t blame the fans that sold their tickets to yesterdays game. I was one of probably 10,000 Charger fans out of 68,000. Embarrassing!!

  30. I’m a life-long Packer fan. I’ve been to games everywhere on the west coast with the exception of The Black Hole. San Diego ABSOLUTELY HANDS DOWN is the best destination to watch a game.

    The stadium is a dive, but to abandon that market would be a colossal mistake for the NFL.

    It might be worse than the NBA abandoning the Seattle market.

  31. There is no way he will pay a relocation fee. The NFL made a deal with Spanos to remove the fee and give him first rights to LA when LA was given to the Rams. The Raiders will not pay a relocation fee to move as well. Im sure there has been many backdoor deals throughout this entire relocation process for all three teams. Greedy , slimy process that turns fans off. Seems to me that if the NFL really wanted teams in Oakland and San Diego there is enough money available to make it work. They could find the money.

  32. Greedy , slimy process that turns fans off.

    It’s smart business.

    Why would the NFL cough up +/- a billion dollars to build a stadium when a municipality would split that cost with them to create/keep jobs, and to gain revenue from concerts and events?

    I understand the NFLs mindset on this. I don’t agree with it, mind you, but I understand it.

    I don’t know why every NFL owner wouldn’t want their own ‘Jerry World’.. but I also understand that not every owner has the resources of Paul Allen and Stan Kroenke.

  33. I hate this. No way should the Chargers leave San Diego. Cheap DB of an owner should figure out a way to secure private financing for the stadium and throw in some of his own money. Chargers fans are great and deserve so much better. Moreover, I just can’t see anybody supporting the Chargers in LA.

  34. To be fair, this dude is between a rock and a hard place. He will not get a deal from the city of San Diego. He will not get a deal from the LA Rams. No city is clamoring for the Chargers. The only option available being one of the poorest owner in the league is to sell the team since he can’t finance his own stadium. Saint Louis Chargers? San Antonio Chargers? That’s not happening. The LA Chargers sound like a bad joke.

  35. If I was an NFL owner, why would I want to forgo my share of the relocation fee (almost 20MM) to let either the Chargers or Raiders move?
    Would I make it back via higher ticket sale revenue in a short time?
    If not, I’d vote against it.

  36. If the Chargers move:

    1 – they have to pay a relocation fee of > $600 million to the league

    2 – the Rams locked in all the corporate sponsors and have PSL deposits. The Chargers will have a much harder time selling tickets, especially with high PSL prices.

    3 – Kroenke will drive a hard bargain and the Chargers will not get a good deal on rent or any other revenue.

    —————————————
    1. The league raised the debt ceiling. The Chargers can get a loan for the relocation fee.

    2. Stop lying sir. The Rams can’t even sell PSLs until the Chargers and Raiders stadium situations are sorted out.

    3. The NFL oversaw the lease agreement and insured the Chargers got a sweetheart deal from Kroenke. The lease agreement has already been signed.

    Thank you. Come again.

  37. We luv sd. Bed there three times to visit. Cant afford to live there in retirement with the horrid taxes. I see one big problem, huge bars in the gas light district make football watching more enjoyable then a stale stadium. Thus the people voting dont care about new stadium. They want to drink beer party and enjoy the game without the hasxle of tickets.

  38. Not talking about NFL owners building a stadium for other teams. Im talking about investors. It is a greedy , slimy process. If they cant get what they want from the city they play in , they move. That’s the NFL. That turns fans off. Do that enough times and it will be the end of the NFL as we know it now. Cities are backing away from financing stadiums . Its not a good deal for anyone except the owners. I don’t see it as smart business. I see it as greedy rich old men trying to squeeze every dollar they can out of the fan with no thought of taking away the years of support and dedication these fans put into a team. I know that doesn’t matter to any owner. Has anyone heard any news of Stan paying his relocation fee ? I haven’t .

  39. I am a HUGE Charger fan. Was at the SD Oak game yesterday. It was pathetic. Ill be glad to see Spanos leave. My loyalty is to whatever team plays in my city. Im not blindly following Spanos wherever he goes. And when the NFL puts another team here (lets face it- 8th largest city & a great destination place to travel) thatll be my new team. There’s no way the NFL avoids such a huge market. The NFL will be back. With a much more competent owner who may actually be the guy to bring a championship to a truly beautiful city.

  40. The AFC West is going to look very different next year with the Raiders in Las Vegas and the Chargers in STL, San Antonio, or Los Angeles.

    We could get the Los Angeles Rams vs Los Angeles Chargers in preseason. No travel expenses there. They should play the old Randy Newman tune, “I Love L.A.”

  41. The Rams have not started selling PSLs. They have taken $100 deposits on season tickets but lets see how many people actually buy the PSLs once they find out what the price is. With the horrible season they have had and another team coming to LA that is talking about rebranding with suggestions from fans , it will be interesting to see how many they sell. Demoff cant blame the coach anymore. This will be his hire . If he doesn’t get it right , LA will finally see what the problem is.

  42. Only a dummy goes to a NFL game when the team has stated it is going to move.

    Chargers have a great fan base, but they are not dumb.

    The Chargers will leave their name and uniforms.

    L.A. costs too damn much tax wise and relocation fee wise- and nobody will go to the games.

    The second NFL team in L.A. will be called Los Angeles Football Team with black and white colors.

    The Chargers could get a great deal in San Antonio, where Spanos would be given a venue and the Chargers would have a Home Field- due to South Texas caring and loving pro football.

    San Antonio Chargers or destroy the franchise.

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