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Don’t expect John Harbaugh to be this year’s surprise firing

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Every year it seems there’s a surprise firing in the NFL. Last year, it was former Buccaneers coach Lovie Smith. Some have speculated that Ravens coach John Harbaugh could be this year’s candidate for a bolt-from-the-blue termination.

As one source explained it, there’s “no chance” John Harbaugh will be let go by Ravens owner Steve Bisciotti. Via Jamison Hensley of ESPN.com, Harbaugh quietly has received at some point a contract extension that gives him security beyond 2017. Previously, John Harbaugh received a new contract prior to the 2013 season, after winning a Super Bowl. Rumors linking John Harbaugh to the Michigan job in 2014 may have resulted in his latest extension.

It’s possible, in theory, that Harbaugh could be inclined to move on after nine years in Baltimore. Regarded in league circles as even more intense and competitive than his brother Jim (but generally considered to be better at keeping it under control publicly), John Harbaugh potentially could reach a point at which he wants to move on, especially with the Rams job open and multiple coaches under contract with other teams reportedly interested. There’s currently no tangible reason, however, to believe that John Harbaugh has acquired a case of wanderlust.

Harbaugh took the Ravens to the playoffs in each of his first five seasons. Since then, the Ravens have made it to the playoffs only one out of four times. After reaching the final eight and nearly beating New England in the 2014 postseason, Baltimore has failed to make it to the playoffs in each of the last two years.

While that may result in some increased pressure for 2017, it’s not enough to make John Harbaugh this year’s surprise firing.

Which, of course, would definitely make it a surprise if he’s fired.

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61 Responses to “Don’t expect John Harbaugh to be this year’s surprise firing”
  1. zaphod424242 says: Dec 27, 2016 7:58 PM

    How can we expect it if it’s a surprise?

  2. exinsidetrader says: Dec 27, 2016 7:58 PM

    Very good coach.
    Many teams could do worse and have.

  3. ctiggs says: Dec 27, 2016 8:02 PM

    Well we know he wont take the job for my Niners

  4. tylereifertisunstoppable says: Dec 27, 2016 8:03 PM

    Who is “some”? First I’ve heard it mentioned.

  5. 33vikes says: Dec 27, 2016 8:05 PM

    Leave a perennial competitor for Klown Kolledge in LA?

    Nope.

  6. jvw1982 says: Dec 27, 2016 8:07 PM

    He would be picked up by Buffalo, Jax or LA before the week was out…..Balt may need a change but John would have a job with good pay and final say if he wanted too…it would work out for both of them if he was the surprise firing….or better yet just trade him to LA…..

  7. djbumbaclot says: Dec 27, 2016 8:08 PM

    I mean….. with so few competent coaches out there the Ravens would be dumb to fire him. Probably a half dozen teams out there would want him immediately.

  8. filthymcnasty3 says: Dec 27, 2016 8:09 PM

    Surprise!!!!

    Mike Zimmer.

  9. lynnko says: Dec 27, 2016 8:09 PM

    and who would be worthy of replacing him?
    this team plays hard for him, is not as talented as previous years teams and lacks playmakers
    no reasonable person wants John gone

  10. ariani1985 says: Dec 27, 2016 8:14 PM

    Mike McCheesburger in green Bay?

  11. schultzbrigade says: Dec 27, 2016 8:15 PM

    This reminds me of Philly and Andy Reid. How’s Philly been doing since he left? How about KC?

  12. valentino8100 says: Dec 27, 2016 8:17 PM

    Hard to imagine Harbaugh being let go by the Ravens. The truth is, he is a far better coach than most of his peers despite not being near as good as he thinks he is.

  13. 6ball says: Dec 27, 2016 8:18 PM

    .
    Harbaugh made sure that Tom Brady is tanned, rested and ready for the Patriots playoff run. Harbaugh elevated Jimmy Garopollo’s trade value immeasurably. Harbaugh exposed the entire league office as a ship of fools.

    Other than score a high draft choice, he’s done little to help the Ravens
    .

  14. whiteybulgersson says: Dec 27, 2016 8:19 PM

    He will be fired. Two years of no playoffs. What a joke of a coach

  15. steelerfan63 says: Dec 27, 2016 8:21 PM

    He just had his season ended by a team that had multiple players playing in their first nfl game. I report you decide.

  16. teal379 says: Dec 27, 2016 8:21 PM

    Maybe not fired but a trade to LA?

    There was talk LA was willing to trade for a coach.

  17. tylawspick6 says: Dec 27, 2016 8:26 PM

    their arrogance in 2012 when ray ray used antler spray, they scapegoated cam cameron, and did not pay flacco on schedule, has now caused their current cap hell.

    in fact, one big reason 60% of the league is mediocre and another 35% of teams suck right now is balt’s arrogance.

    flacco makes 20 mil per because ozzie never budgeted for him prior to their sb run in 2012, so they made their choice. and now? they can lie in the bed they made that has a big bag of poo in it.

  18. kevpft says: Dec 27, 2016 8:28 PM

    The team would be absolutely insane to let him go anytime into the indefinite future.

  19. j0esixpack says: Dec 27, 2016 8:31 PM

    It’s not his fault – it’s just FrameGate karma – keeping the Ravens, Colts and Jets (well, the Jets already seemed to have bad karma) out of the playoffs – with a little playoff denial for the Broncos mixed in for good measure

    All these teams can’t accept that the reason they fail so often isn’t because “other teams are cheating” – it’s because they have bad owners and bad organizations and coaches who have a million excuses about why they “should” have won more Super Bowls

    Until they change they’re own culture the best their fans can hope for is that Brady and the Patriots’ amazing consistency falls short of Super Bowl #5

  20. sportnik2 says: Dec 27, 2016 8:32 PM

    Harwaugh is cursed by his role in Deflategate. He hasn’t been to the playoffs since and the football gods will make certain he never wins anything again.

  21. realfootballfan says: Dec 27, 2016 8:34 PM

    Bisciotti made some curious comments a couple of years ago that made me think they don’t have the greatest relationship. If I was him, I’d move on because the current group has plateaued, and I think it will be a few years before they’ll be able to stock up enough to make another legit run. That Flacco contract certainly doesn’t help that.

  22. cowboy2016 says: Dec 27, 2016 8:36 PM

    If the Patriots fired Bill Belichick, okay that would be a surprise firing.

  23. Nofoolnodrool says: Dec 27, 2016 8:37 PM

    tylawspick6 says:
    Dec 27, 2016 8:26 PM
    their arrogance in 2012 when ray ray used antler spray, they scapegoated cam cameron, and did not pay flacco on schedule, has now caused their current cap hell.

    in fact, one big reason 60% of the league is mediocre and another 35% of teams suck right now is balt’s arrogance.

    flacco makes 20 mil per because ozzie never budgeted for him prior to their sb run in 2012, so they made their choice. and now? they can lie in the bed they made that has a big bag of poo in it.

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    Report comment

    If anyone doesn’t know what dumb is ….just read that post by the Pride of the Patriots…….what a putz.

  24. squinn21 says: Dec 27, 2016 8:39 PM

    Guy would have a HC job the next day if they were dumb enough to can him. He’s a very good coach.

  25. maddenisfordorks says: Dec 27, 2016 8:40 PM

    Ladies and Gentlemen!

    Come meet our brand new … soon to be ex-coach (enter name here)!

    I think the league and fans have a serious issue with the whole coach carousel.

  26. flaccodelic says: Dec 27, 2016 8:42 PM

    Can we please have a moment of silence for all these poor, persecuted Patriots fans that still come running to posts like these to share their pain?

    PS- Harbaugh ain’t going anywhere.

  27. j0esixpack says: Dec 27, 2016 8:44 PM

    Also doesn’t help when you give Joe Flacco a $30 mil a year contract – and then to lower the cap hit give Flacco a $66 mil extension AFTER he had an ACL injury

    Flacco frankly doesn’t look the same – but in fairness spending a total of $115 mil on Flacco thus far – plus nearly another $100 mil in the coming years – doesn’t give you a lot of cap space to hire a quality 53 man roster

  28. henry53 says: Dec 27, 2016 8:44 PM

    In other words, he’s been just good enough ofr the last 4 years – and not more- to keep his job.

  29. tylawspick6 says: Dec 27, 2016 8:45 PM

    imagine if bisciotti was not aware framegate was
    going down?

    i can see that possibly being a reason they would
    cut this arrogant turd loose, sooner rather than later, but i think that
    used car salesman sleaze bucket bisciotti was in on it.

    i also don’t think two members of the same
    organization should be on the comp. committe either

  30. tedmurph says: Dec 27, 2016 8:45 PM

    In spite of his whiney, snivelling, excuse making demeanor, he is a top 10 coach. Probably top 5. I doubt he’ll get fired this yr, but he’ll be on the hot seat next yr, extension or not. Since the SBowl win, the Ravens have gone 8-8, 10-6, 5-11, 8-7. With 1 playoff win. Could be time for a change towards what everyone thinks is a plumb job in LA, and a fresh start.

  31. xsm941f says: Dec 27, 2016 8:49 PM

    I’m a Pittsburgh resident. There are few coaches I respect more. Can’t stand the Ravens but totally respect how hard and tough they almost always play.

  32. chargerdillon says: Dec 27, 2016 8:51 PM

    My guess would be it’s Rivera this year. Any time you have a coach and qb publicly squabbling it’s usual a death sentence for the coach.

    Hope that happens because I’d take Rivera any day of the week when Mike McCoy gets let go

  33. tylawspick6 says: Dec 27, 2016 8:51 PM

    a top 10 coach in a crap
    league with fat, happy and lazy owners in charge, ain’t saying much

  34. maust1013 says: Dec 27, 2016 8:52 PM

    I know not this ‘some’ you speak that have speculated Harbaugh could be shown the door. While no one is as good as Harbaugh thinks he is he is a damn good coach and there certainly isn’t anyone better hanging about clamoring for that job. You don’t give up on very good unless you can trade up to great. Short of the team tuning him out, and there is plenty of evidence they haven’t, what’s to be gained by firing him when there isn’t a better candidate available?

  35. buckethead1 says: Dec 27, 2016 8:53 PM

    The Immaculate Extension!

  36. riraider says: Dec 27, 2016 8:54 PM

    #7 on your team cheats !

    #15 Patriots

  37. jimlahey916 says: Dec 27, 2016 8:54 PM

    Yeah because teams with instability at head coach are always so successful you should fire your super bowl winning head coach because he didn’t land them in the Super Bowl this year. Im a Steelers fan and seen 3 head coaches in my life time. They have a plan they stick to it and see it through. The Bills firing Rex Ryan just set that team back again. You don’t bring in a new coach and voila have an optimized championship caliber roster. It takes a good 4-5 years to build a legit contender through the draft that can compete year in and year out.

  38. riverhorsey says: Dec 27, 2016 8:57 PM

    John Harbaugh is like Marty. Consistently there every year. No way I can Harbaugh.

  39. carloswlassiter says: Dec 27, 2016 9:07 PM

    Ridiculous. He’s not going anywhere.

  40. uscoach says: Dec 27, 2016 9:23 PM

    I’m a Ravens fan and I can tell you that I’ve never talked with anyone who is sane that isn’t sold on Harbaugh. After 2012 when he first Cam C and led this team to victory, all the while curbing his ego and letting Ed and Ray lead the crew to an extent….he’s just a great leader for our team in Baltimore. Many of us would be devastated if he wasn’t the Ravens coach. The Ravens are not far away from being a great team again, and even though we didn’t make the playoffs most people feel good about where we are going. We do need the draft a QB for the future though!

  41. uscoach says: Dec 27, 2016 9:23 PM

    I mean’t “Fired” Cam C

  42. kevinlawrencecantor says: Dec 27, 2016 9:37 PM

    He won’t be fired, but he probably should have.

    You have to think about the future, not the past when you make decisions. This is why they are in the Joe Flacco situation.

    Is there reason to believe the Ravens will be BETTER next year? No. Steve Smith is most likely gone. Terrell Suggs will be a year older. There’s no game-changing corners in the draft.

    You have to think that Denver will get things turned around. Oakland, Tennessee and Kansas City will still be there. Indianapolis and Houston may be better next year. I wouldn’t bet on Miami being back in the playoffs next season, but who knows. And then you have the usual New England and Pittsburgh. The Bills have been in the mix until the final weeks the last three years with Kyle Orton at QB and Rex Ryan as a coach.

    You have to evaluate whether Harbaugh has what it takes to go through the whole process again with a new group of guys. We know what he did with the Flacco/Lewis/Rice/Ngata/Reed/Suggs era team. That team is mostly gone. Is he going to be around for another 5 years to rebuild a new core? I just don’t see it.

  43. tomtravis76 says: Dec 27, 2016 9:42 PM

    Everyone who makes the decisions within the Ravens is on the same page with the culture of stability that has been created. The only position on the coaching staff that needs to be addressed is an offensive coordinator that understands Joe Flacco’ s strengths and weaknesses.

  44. Cleanosaur says: Dec 27, 2016 9:53 PM

    decent coach.

  45. PCa Survivor says: Dec 27, 2016 10:03 PM

    riverhorsey says:
    Dec 27, 2016 8:57 PM

    John Harbaugh is like Marty. Consistently there every year. No way I can Harbaugh.
    ___________________________________

    If by “every year” you mean once in the past four years, then sure, he’s there every year. Not a great coach, more of a cheerleader guy.

  46. codiablo says: Dec 27, 2016 10:10 PM

    Joe Flacco contract – Delaware sux!

  47. jtownsfine5t says: Dec 27, 2016 10:15 PM

    Im gonna say John Fox, Ron Rivera, Chuck Pagano, Mike McCoy and MAYBE Chip Kelly

  48. brenenostler says: Dec 27, 2016 11:12 PM

    I can’t figure out why the Rams job is believed to be so attractive. You’ll be a doormat to the Seahawks tasked to turn Goff into an NFL QB(which probably isn’t gonna happen) and then be fired after three years when Goff fails.

    Why would any coach want to leave a team where he already has a franchise QB?

  49. descendency says: Dec 27, 2016 11:16 PM

    What? Some people thought this might happen? Do they know anything about football?

    Who would fire a top 5 HC? Like, the only team stupid enough to do that is San Francisco. Look at how well that worked out for them so far.

  50. trollaikman8 says: Dec 28, 2016 12:40 AM

    Wait wasn’t he once a Special Teams coach?
    Why does Baltipoor’s ST suck so bad?

  51. tyelee says: Dec 28, 2016 1:20 AM

    It could be:
    Browns
    Jets
    49ers
    Chargers
    Bears
    Colts

  52. Boris Yeltsin says: Dec 28, 2016 1:53 AM

    Don’t worry. I don’t expect anything that surprises me.

  53. bomatdaman says: Dec 28, 2016 1:56 AM

    Harbs is OK. Unfortunately, many of the assistants aren’t. In fairness to the Ravens org, many very good coaches have been hired away over the past dozen years. It’s not easy to reload every year.

    More than coaching, Baltimore has one of the weakest O Lines in the league. When you compare the O Lines from Oakland, Dallas, New England, & Pittsburgh, Flacco is clearly at a disadvantage.

  54. jetsstillsuck2015 says: Dec 28, 2016 5:59 AM

    Jerk

  55. jtownsfine5t says: Dec 28, 2016 6:34 AM

    Sorry not all of those coaches will be fired. Just making some who I think might be fired

  56. xxsweepthelegxx says: Dec 28, 2016 7:56 AM

    No way he goes. I think he is top 2 on the whiners list, but he’s also top 5 on the can coach list. If he leaves, it’s on him and his choice alone, looking for a fresh start.

    Although competitive, their record hasn’t been all that great since SB win in 2012.

    He could probably make more money and get a 3-4 year deal somewhere else. Imagine him in JAX with their young, talented roster, and a much worse division than the AFC North.

    With all that said, he’s got a good paying, steady job right now and I don’t see him walking away

  57. Footballfanz says: Dec 28, 2016 7:58 AM

    Take over the Bills. They have probably the most talent on defense in the league. So go there, bring Jim Schwarts with you (who was the defensive coach in buffalo when they were ranked 4th best 2 years ago). Find yourself a good offensive coordinator and go from there.

  58. evrybdyhas1 says: Dec 28, 2016 8:56 AM

    The Ravens were two dropped passes in the end zone and nine seconds away from sweeping Pittsburgh again and being in the playoffs. The Ravens personnel department has been the primary reason for the downturn. They let go of quality players (Osemele & McPhee) and invest too much time in high round draft flops like Arthur Brown. This years flop is Kamalei Correa while they lost Victor Ochi on the practice squad. In the meantime the Steelers draft LeVeon Bell and Antonio Brown while the Ravens have Buck Allen and Breshard Perriman. IMO another coach doesn’t win half as many games.

  59. guitarkevin says: Dec 28, 2016 9:57 AM

    If anyone should be in the hot seat in Baltimore, it’s Ozzie.
    John can’t be blamed for the lack of talent on the roster. He’s just the coach.

  60. kgunforhire says: Dec 28, 2016 11:15 AM

    Amazing how success can skew expectation. Harbaugh with track record of success on hot seat for recent down years. Buffalo would take his down years in a heartbeat.

  61. sbchampsagain says: Dec 29, 2016 2:26 PM

    Put things in perspective people!

    The Ravens were playing for a division title on Christmas!

    Even after the loss, Baltimore is 4-1 in the division, with a chance to be 5-1 this week.

    Smart NFL fans would LOVE that. Most years 1 division loss is enough to take the division. This year it’ didn’t. Tough, but such is life.

    Harbaugh will be fine and should be in no danger of losing his job. Especially if the NFL expands the playoffs by 1 or 2 more spots like it’s been talking…

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