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Report: Vance Joseph wouldn’t keep Wade Phillips

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Dolphins defensive coordinator Vance Joseph is one of a handful of candidates to replace Gary Kubiak as head coach of the Broncos. If Joseph gets the job, Kubiak won’t be the only big-name coach leaving the team.

Alex Marvez of reports that Joseph would promote defensive backs coach Joe Woods to the position of defensive coordinator. This means that defensive coordinator Wade Phillips would not be returning.

Phillips already may be destined to leave; with Washington firing defensive coordinator Joe Barry, the next move could be to bring Phillips to D.C.

However it works out, the coaching carousel is spinning at multiple levels, and it’s unclear where everyone will be when the music stops.

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48 Responses to “Report: Vance Joseph wouldn’t keep Wade Phillips”
  1. cafetero1075 says: Jan 5, 2017 9:33 PM

    Wade Phillips could come to the Phins. Great coordinator, lousy head coach.

  2. richardernsberger says: Jan 5, 2017 9:37 PM

    If true, that decision alone should disqualify Joseph from the job. What, Phillips hasn’t done a good enough job? Denver has had the best defense in the league, or close to it, for the last two years. Phillips is the ONE guy you have to keep, assuming he wants to stay. His contract is up.

  3. ajgreenhof says: Jan 5, 2017 9:40 PM

    Sounds like an ego move.

    He’s a hell of a DC.

  4. couchbasher says: Jan 5, 2017 9:40 PM

    Rooney Rule

  5. bryn987 says: Jan 5, 2017 9:49 PM

    Bad idea.

    Philips will retire soon, then you can bring in your own guy. Keep Philips and you have an easier transition with senior management, fans and make it easier to manage. If Philips loses it, you replace him, give you an extra year of being safe. If he does good, you look good

  6. showtyme34 says: Jan 5, 2017 9:49 PM

    Fire Wade and let Green Bay pick him up so they release Capers. So much talent and high draft picks on GB defense yet it consistently under performs. Wade would get that defense to make them scary good!

  7. igotgamenj says: Jan 5, 2017 10:05 PM

    Report Kyle Shanahan might get the job …

  8. militantgod says: Jan 5, 2017 10:20 PM

    “Wade Phillips is a lousy head coach” is a complete myth. 82-61 record. He didn’t get ‘er done in the playoffs but to call him lousy, as if he’s Gus Bradley, is laughable. Fire KNJ and bring him to Oakland!

  9. mcjon22 says: Jan 5, 2017 10:29 PM

    Well, since he has already worked with Gase multiple season’s in Denver, I think Miami would be a logical landing spot for him.

  10. dolphansanity says: Jan 5, 2017 10:36 PM

    WOW. This is really weird for Dophins fans. We’ve gone so long without one real head coach and now we apparently have two on our staff with Gase and Joseph. Somebody pinch me. This must be a dream.

  11. IMHIM says: Jan 5, 2017 10:41 PM

    Hire Kyle and retain Wade. It’s pretty simple.

  12. suncawy says: Jan 5, 2017 10:46 PM

    It’s not the defense that needs fixing in Denver. The offense needs upgrading, so Joseph wouldn’t be a good pick.

  13. jvw1982 says: Jan 5, 2017 10:49 PM

    A defensive minded HC will always bring his guys in to run his defense….the only way Wade stays is if Elway hires a coach from the offensive side of the ball….this has nothing to do with arrogance, just common sense….

  14. scoocha says: Jan 5, 2017 10:56 PM

    Redskins defense will be much improved if so.

  15. JaminJake says: Jan 5, 2017 10:57 PM

    Denver needs to keep Philips.

    Kubiak is retiring for health reasons, but it’s clear that his offensive approach is antiquated this past year.

    Hiring Kyle Shannahan to work with the offense while retaining defensive continuity makes the most sense.

  16. scoocha says: Jan 5, 2017 11:00 PM

    …And the Broncos will be terrible with the combo of Vance Joseph and Woods.

  17. thebillscouldeventuallymove says: Jan 5, 2017 11:03 PM

    Be sweet if the Raiders fired KNJ and hired Phillips to coach their defense.

  18. unbiased8383 says: Jan 5, 2017 11:04 PM

    Wade is an all time great defensive coordinator and his group won them a super bowl and was very good again this year. To say you’re going to get rid of him should disqualify you for the job.

  19. fordbw says: Jan 5, 2017 11:11 PM

    Sorry Vance. We like Wade Phillips a lot more than we like you.


  20. harlosite says: Jan 5, 2017 11:19 PM

    BIG mistake if we let Wade go. Makes no sense to get rid of him with the production we’ve had on defense.

  21. iseek11 says: Jan 5, 2017 11:24 PM

    mcjon22 says:
    Jan 5, 2017 10:29 PM
    Well, since he has already worked with Gase multiple seasonā€™s in Denver, I think Miami would be a logical landing spot for him.

    Gase left with Fox. Phillips came in with Kubiak. Gase and Phillips have no history.

  22. genericcommenter says: Jan 5, 2017 11:31 PM

    I thought Phillips was unemployed. If so, it’s not a matter of keeping but proactively re-hiring. I know plenty of people who’ve had to reapply for their jobs after a regime chance.

  23. pkrlvr says: Jan 5, 2017 11:32 PM

    There’s one reason he’d give Woods the DC job. One.

  24. stampnhawk says: Jan 5, 2017 11:42 PM

    Not sure why this surprises anyone. NFL and most sports leagues is about who you know, who you trust, or maybe best put, how best you can look out for yourself. He knows Phillips wants something more and may undermine him, meanwhile, this Woods guy will work like a dog if given the chance and Joseph has complete control of Woods.
    Goes for players too. You know the right coach or assistant or quality control guy, you’ll have a better chance coming of the practice squad then some guy who may have more talent, but no one really knows.

  25. mystereo says: Jan 5, 2017 11:50 PM

    Joseph will be gone quick just like Josh McDummy. Firing a Super Bowl-winning DC for a no name like Joe Woods just because he’s black is a pathetic move. If Elway was smart, he would avoid Joseph and just hire a legit candidate.

  26. bighairbingopro says: Jan 6, 2017 12:47 AM

    Bring back Joe Collier. J/K. Denver needs Wade.

  27. rooneyruleblues says: Jan 6, 2017 1:32 AM

    Where come dem Rooney Rule Blues… šŸ˜¦

  28. whodatnhollywood says: Jan 6, 2017 1:35 AM

    Why wouldn’t any coach keep Wade Phillips? Defense was definitely NOT the problem for Denver. The man has forgotten more about football than these young wanna be head coaches will ever know about it! Don’t play with fire, youngsters!

    If Denver doesn’t want him, I hope the Saints kick no-talent Dennis Allen to the curb and get Wade to come back home. I bet he’d have that defense playing far superior~with the same talent!

    I have tons of respect for Wade Phillips. The game hasn’t passed him by. This time last year he was about to win a Super Bowl with a ferocious defense!

  29. wahoo21 says: Jan 6, 2017 1:38 AM

    This Guy is a joke….already deciding who he is going to replace before he even gets the interview or the job

    not only no but hell no

  30. td30 says: Jan 6, 2017 1:46 AM

    Then I dont want Vance Joseph

  31. history says: Jan 6, 2017 5:20 AM

    This has nothing to do with Joseph being black or some Rooney rule. This guy would have been the DC beore Phillips if Cincy would have allowed him to interview for the job years ago. Philips was only hired because they couldn’t get him. So, yes, he would have been the natural replacement Rooney rule or not. Now, let’s get out there and make America great again.

  32. brianav036 says: Jan 6, 2017 5:26 AM

    I am a Dolphin fan and I believe that Joseph is a good coach but I don’t understand how he received amso many interviews. Miami won despite its defense this season not because of it. They have the 30th ranked defense. They have a ton of injuries but again how does a first time cordinator running the worst defense in the NFL get interviews with 5BEL teams?

  33. bronx33 says: Jan 6, 2017 6:25 AM

    mcjon22 says:
    Jan 5, 2017 10:29 PM
    Well, since he has already worked with Gase multiple seasonā€™s in Denver, I think Miami would be a logical landing spot for him.

    Phillips never worked with Gase in Denver.

    Joseph’s name just came off the Denver list.

  34. bronx33 says: Jan 6, 2017 6:25 AM

    mcjon22 says:
    Jan 5, 2017 10:29 PM
    Well, since he has already worked with Gase multiple seasonā€™s in Denver, I think Miami would be a logical landing spot for him.

    Phillips never worked with Gase in Denver.

    Joseph’s name just came off the Denver list.

  35. brendafortheboyz says: Jan 6, 2017 6:31 AM

    Letting Uncle Wade walk, is the most idiotic thing I read so far today!!!!!!!

  36. saddolfinfan says: Jan 6, 2017 6:55 AM

    What has Joseph done to deserve a head coaching job? Dolphins defense has been pretty bad all season and below league average in every key stat. As a dolphin fan, I wouldn’t be upset to see him go.

  37. stevejjones says: Jan 6, 2017 9:34 AM

    This is a hostage situation for Wade. His son works for the Redskins. If they want him, do they hint its a package deal?

  38. alonestartexan says: Jan 6, 2017 9:47 AM

    It’d be cool if Son of Bum would come to Nashville and work with Dick LeBeau, eventually replacing him.

    Granted, he’s not a spring chicken either but he’d be welcomed back to the franchise!

    Luv Ya Blue!

  39. silvernblacksabbath says: Jan 6, 2017 10:18 AM

    Elway won’t hire this dude…. It’ll be a Shanahan…

  40. silvernblacksabbath says: Jan 6, 2017 10:24 AM

    Oakland would welcome Wade for sure… Bye bye Norton

  41. dsheik says: Jan 6, 2017 10:50 AM

    John Elway isnt this stupid to allow the D side of the ball to be dismantled. I doubt Vance Joseph is even a serious candidate. More like a name thrown out to fulfill the Rooney rule. If he was a serious candidate he isnt one now.

  42. thejesusofcool says: Jan 6, 2017 10:52 AM

    If Joseph promotes Woods, how is this bringing in one of his own guys?

  43. thejesusofcool says: Jan 6, 2017 10:55 AM

    Oakland would welcome Wade for sureā€¦ Bye bye Norton
    Oakland would never hire Phillips while Del Rio is the HC. Wade humiliated Jack by taking his same 11 defensive starters and turning them into a legendary, SB winning defense. Jack doesnt want to be reminded of that, ever!

  44. patsfan4lifesbchamps says: Jan 6, 2017 11:25 AM

    Elway just checking the Rooney rule box before hiring someone else.

  45. somethinghappeninghere says: Jan 6, 2017 12:48 PM

    I don’t get it–Denver would hire Vance Joseph because….he worked with Gase? Seriously? and if Fins let Joseph go, then I am sure Wade Phillips would do a better job on Miami’s D than Joseph (really, for first time in forever, Miami’s O was far betteer than Miami’s D, which basically blew the Pats game in Miami! but I am sure injuries had something to do with that…no safeties, no LBs, etc.)

    But Phillips ain’t coming to Miami, so let’s keep ol’ Vance, shall we?

    Oh,, and or those who wonder why Vance is getting all these interviews? Rooney Rule. Period. End of story.

  46. polegojim says: Jan 6, 2017 3:19 PM

    Joseph a ‘heck of a D coach’… on what PLANET?

    29th out of 32 in the league? Seriously?

    Guy should be FIRED, not promoted.

  47. codiablo says: Jan 6, 2017 4:38 PM

    Happy to have Phillips in Minny…”Sorry George Edwards”

  48. toybkshr says: Jan 10, 2017 1:16 PM

    Can’t help but think that this would play out like Rex Ryan’s “fixing of the Bills defense” that wasn’t broke.

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