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Report: Bill Musgrave leaving the Raiders

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One of the best offenses in the NFL is seeking a new coordinator.

Raiders offensive coordinator Bill Musgrave is expected to leave the team, Ian Rapoport of NFL Network reports. Musgrave finished the final year of his contract and will not be signing a new deal. It appears that Raiders head coach Jack Del Rio decided to make a change.

The move is surprising because until Derek Carr got hurt, the Raiders had one of the NFL’s best offenses. With a lot of young talent on their offense, the Raiders would seem to be a team that would want to keep heading in the right direction offensively.

That could be accomplished by promoting quarterbacks coach Todd Downing to offensive coordinator. Downing is expected to be a candidate for the promotion.

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  1. davefromwork says: Jan 10, 2017 4:29 PM

    Good move.

  2. tylawspick6 says: Jan 10, 2017 4:29 PM

    uh oh!

    carr to regress in 2017

  3. PFTCommentSectionIsFullOfBigotry says: Jan 10, 2017 4:30 PM

    I read Ken JR is staying for now…… I hope the new OC keep Oakland moving the ball as well or better then musgrave!!!

  4. gbatap says: Jan 10, 2017 4:31 PM

    They appeared to be great against weak defenses. They’re competing with the chiefs in the west who gave up a whopping 23 points against the raiders offense. They have a lot of great offensive pieces and there are better options out there for coaches that will get more out of them.

  5. clayjtitan66 says: Jan 10, 2017 4:34 PM

    Go Chiefs

  6. kcraiderfan says: Jan 10, 2017 4:34 PM

    I think this report must be backwards, he means the defensive coordinator is leaving right? I seem to remember the offense being in the top 10 in yards this past year.

  7. swadehoo says: Jan 10, 2017 4:34 PM

    There’s nothing to see here Raider haters. The Carr offense was good despite him, not because of him. This will be a positive for the silver and black.

  8. r8danation says: Jan 10, 2017 4:34 PM

    Wrong coordinator JDR

  9. illumination666 says: Jan 10, 2017 4:36 PM

    So they fire Musgraves, but KNJ can stay?

  10. weepingjebus says: Jan 10, 2017 4:37 PM

    Is it possible to have a 0-year dynasty?

  11. imagoinin says: Jan 10, 2017 4:37 PM

    Jacksonville???

  12. imagoinin says: Jan 10, 2017 4:38 PM

    = Jacksonville???

  13. tylawspick6 says: Jan 10, 2017 4:39 PM

    how is that a “good move” to disrupt any growth
    and progress of a young qb?

    do you people drink dumb dumb juice daily or multiple
    times during the day?

    huge blow to the continuity oakland had

    add in the vegas distraction and your honeymoon 2016 season
    while feel more like a nightmare moving forward

    go ask alex smith or matt cassel how it felt to have
    a new oc every year..look how it hurt them

  14. sirjoeshmoe2015 says: Jan 10, 2017 4:40 PM

    the Raiders motto “If it works just change it!”

  15. dawsonleery says: Jan 10, 2017 4:41 PM

    Carr was caring Musgrave all season. Raiders couldn’t afford to lose Todd Downing, he’ll be promoted to OC.

  16. jdubkc says: Jan 10, 2017 4:44 PM

    Go Ducks!

  17. tylawspick6 says: Jan 10, 2017 4:46 PM

    very arrogant to think carr had another level
    and that musgrave was holding him back

    del rio and the bozo gm just sunk the raiders future

  18. blacnsilvr says: Jan 10, 2017 4:46 PM

    The Raiders won despite Musgrave not because of Musgrave. Carr excelled in spite of Musgrave not because of Musgrave. No offensive creativity whatsoever! Someone please introduce Musgrave to what we call a TIGHT END! Good riddance!

  19. softhelmet says: Jan 10, 2017 4:47 PM

    Unless there is some hidden conflict (think personalities) I don’t see a lot of sense in this move. The quote above about Alex Smith is spot on.

  20. lks311 says: Jan 10, 2017 4:49 PM

    He’d be an upgrade in Detroit.

  21. nflfolly says: Jan 10, 2017 4:50 PM

    Raiders 4-12 next year.

  22. joetoronto says: Jan 10, 2017 4:50 PM

    His play calling was brutal, Carr deserves better.

  23. mlhigh says: Jan 10, 2017 4:53 PM

    And here we go. Fat Jack throwing good assistants under the bus when he is the one that should go. Way to stand up Del Rio! Do you know who is calling the plays yet (“Kenneth, what is the frequency?”).

  24. autumnwind999 says: Jan 10, 2017 4:55 PM

    Not going to McGloin at halftime in Houston was inexcusable. But JDR is the head coach and ultimately that’s his call.

  25. charliecharger says: Jan 10, 2017 4:58 PM

    I am not losing any sleep tonight. If Musgrave was the guy calling plays vs Houston, he should get fired. Musgrave isn’t the only boneheaded coach that thinks the way to take pressure off a young QB is running for no gain on first down, when the defense is expecting a run, then being in 2nd and long, 3rd and long, and throwing when the defense is expecting a throw. FYI Bill, that actually puts way more pressure on a young QB.

  26. jjackwagon says: Jan 10, 2017 4:58 PM

    Raiders have six games against 2016 playoff teams next season. And none of them are Houston(who the Raiders didn’t even show up for).

    If they can get to the playoffs again, they will have earned it.

  27. vikingjack73 says: Jan 10, 2017 4:59 PM

    I’d like to see Musgrave return to Minnesota
    The Vikings pass offense was a lot more creative & a deep threat with Musgrave calling plays

  28. devindenv says: Jan 10, 2017 4:59 PM

    Mr. Elway on Line 1, Bill.

  29. isleptwithoj says: Jan 10, 2017 4:59 PM

    What up Big Bad Mighty Nashun? How are those season ending hangovers??

    Sorry buds, but the football world is still laughing at you. 14 years of being the worst team in the NFL (NFL record of double digit losses in 10 out of 12 years) and finally you get it right, with help from a very soft schedule (you didnt beat anybody), and suddenly you back, bad and knocking on the Champions Clubhouse door expectin’ a seat at the Big Boys Table. LMAO, that’s rich!!

    Maybe next time stay quiet until you do something? Just sayin’ LOL! And dudes, do something about Del Rio. He is a complete idiot!

  30. raiderdave31 says: Jan 10, 2017 5:00 PM

    Play calling did suck your right and nobody who didn’t watch every snap wouldn’t notice. Real fans know that the play with cook being intercepted by clowny las sat was all risk no reward. You do not ask a rookie to make that play.

    More than that, at KC being 3rd and a yard at the 14, you run the damn ball twice and not get cute or have a delayed snap count to even let your OL jump at 4th and 1. That turned to 4th and 7 and lost the season in my book.

    Good riddance. And the only reason for the DC to stay is chemistry.
    With a couple good Seahawks players set in you wouldn’t want to screw that up. Db and DT upgrades will bring Ken back to legion of boom Vegas style

  31. isleptwithoj says: Jan 10, 2017 5:04 PM

    raiderdave31: excuses are for losers.

  32. isleptwithoj says: Jan 10, 2017 5:06 PM

    Raiders have six games against 2016 playoff teams next season. And none of them are Houston(who the Raiders didn’t even show up for).
    _____________________________________
    The Raiders beat the Texans in the regular season (the only playoff team they beat all year) with the huge help of the refs and Raider fans shining lasers into the opponents’s eyes.

  33. draculalambert says: Jan 10, 2017 5:08 PM

    heck, i could “coach” Carr

  34. tooz56 says: Jan 10, 2017 5:11 PM

    Good schemes but is play calling was plain awful and Carr audibles made the calls look better then tgey were

  35. JMClarkent says: Jan 10, 2017 5:24 PM

    Sweet baby Jebus thank you. I despise that “running out of the shotgun” crap, his playcalling is as exotic as seltzer water.

  36. thefatlazygamer says: Jan 10, 2017 5:26 PM

    At least they will be able to mail him his play call sheet in a normal sized envelope with a single postage stamp.

  37. onebuffalove716 says: Jan 10, 2017 5:29 PM

    won despite Musgrave not because of Musgrave. Carr excelled in spite of Musgrave not because of Musgrave. No offensive creativity whatsoever! Someone please introduce Musgrave to what we call a TIGHT END! Good riddance!

    Maybe if your defense could stop anybody

  38. Sharksman says: Jan 10, 2017 5:39 PM

    this was so they could keep Downing
    Downing will be the new OC so the continuity will stay

  39. cobrala2 says: Jan 10, 2017 5:39 PM

    With all the hypotheticals and speculation on the site, there’s absolutely nothing offered on the reason behind the decision?

  40. Sharksman says: Jan 10, 2017 5:40 PM

    Musgrave probably thinks he is in line for HC gig lol

  41. araidersfan says: Jan 10, 2017 5:46 PM

    Whether or not Musgrave’s departure is good or bad depends upon if his replacement is an upgrade. Right now my major focus is that Carr return to full health and gets a lengthy new contract.

  42. teambringitstrong says: Jan 10, 2017 5:48 PM

    All you experts, show me your resumes.

  43. crashburn32 says: Jan 10, 2017 5:51 PM

    Hooray!! Sorry Musgrave defender’s, but having the #6 offense doesn’t mean Musgrave wasn’t screwing up:
    * Too conservative with an explosive lineup.
    * Unable to get a running game going with the best O-line in the AFC.
    * Slowed the offense with predictable and slow developing plays that usually lost yardage.

    The Raiders offense succeeded in spite of him, not because of him. The Raider O will be better next year….

  44. jvw1982 says: Jan 10, 2017 5:53 PM

    Any idea where he might end up?

  45. raiddawgz says: Jan 10, 2017 6:02 PM

    Carr was the reason the Raiders were winning. offense was okay at times but my guess is Derek made lots of calls at the line.

  46. kemp13 says: Jan 10, 2017 6:04 PM

    won despite Musgrave not because of Musgrave. Carr excelled in spite of Musgrave not because of Musgrave. No offensive creativity whatsoever! Someone please introduce Musgrave to what we call a TIGHT END! Good riddance!

    Maybe if your defense could stop anybody

    And maybe if you had a decent tight end (spoiler alert: you don’t).

  47. tonebones says: Jan 10, 2017 6:05 PM

    See what you caused Crabtree. Catch the ball!

  48. crashburn32 says: Jan 10, 2017 6:22 PM

    <<"Consistent running game"

    I notice those who think this is a mistake can't spefically say why Mussy was good, other than to keep saying, "#6 offense."
    People, most of the time, the offense only flowed because they were behind, allowing Carr to THROW DOWNFIELD, or when he called his own plays in the no huddle. Carr's play-calling was more innovative than Mussy! Del Rio and Downing know it, so he's gone. – Next year, the Raiders will be scoring 45 and blowing teams out, instead of scoring 28 and winning by 2 in a squeaker.
    If you don't know why Musgrave was fired, you either don't understand the game or didn't watch the games.

  49. ariani1985 says: Jan 10, 2017 6:36 PM

    The Raiders are brutal, their fans deserve better!

  50. gonakgod says: Jan 10, 2017 6:37 PM

    Chip Kelly 2017 raiders OC

    Chip Kelly 2018 raiders HC

  51. jspyle says: Jan 10, 2017 6:41 PM

    Always got to laugh at all of the “trolls” being on a Raider page, but that’s how some get their kicks I guess!!! I agree with CB 32 above in thinking this is a great move. Musgrave was too conservative and predictable with his play calls. His numbers looked good because of Carr calling audibles to get to a better look than what was called, not because of Musgrave’s great play calling. An example, Its 3 and 1 with Matt McGloin at QB and you throw it?????????? JDR questioned that as well. I wish Musgrave well, but Derek will be better off under someone else.

  52. r8dernation says: Jan 10, 2017 6:43 PM

    Thanks Bill, but we need someone that can take advantage of the RB’s we have. Sure, we may have rushed for a lot of team yards, but there’s no reason why one of them can’t be a featured back and rack up 1400 yards alone.

  53. r8dernation says: Jan 10, 2017 6:44 PM

    jvw1982 says:
    Jan 10, 2017 5:53 PM
    Any idea where he might end up?
    _____________________
    Minnesota, again.

  54. u4iadman says: Jan 10, 2017 6:48 PM

    Moronic comments for those who think Musgrave was good for the Raiders.

  55. upnorthvikesfan says: Jan 10, 2017 6:50 PM

    Carr going down just helped to0 show that anything good the the offense was doing had nothing to do with Musgrave. His play book is very limited and will never get you to the next level. We saw it when he was in Minnesota.

  56. JSpicoli says: Jan 10, 2017 7:01 PM

    Meh. We can get someone better. Not impressed with his clock management and being predictable.

  57. knew8411 says: Jan 10, 2017 7:01 PM

    I don’t have a horse, in this race. But I hope this move doesn’t come back to bite Oakland in the heiney.

  58. r8rsfan says: Jan 10, 2017 7:08 PM

    Carr checked out of the play call a LOT.
    Read Del Rio’s post game presser after the Denver game – he openly called out the play calling.
    IMO Musgrave helped Carr create a good foundation, but a new coach is needed to take it to the next level. If a team is drafting a QB I think Musgrave would be a good option.

    RN4L

  59. alleycat702 says: Jan 10, 2017 7:14 PM

    Hey isleptwithoj: Why did you pick that moniker? I’m curious.

  60. yoursoulcollector says: Jan 10, 2017 7:19 PM

    And now it begins. After their best season in a long 14 years, with considerable uptick on the horizon, the Raiders quickly revert to their own habits of self-destruction which is impossible to avoid as that is all they know.

    Via Con Ladron!

  61. xsorethumbx says: Jan 10, 2017 7:27 PM

    Is it possible to have a 0-year dynasty?

    ___

    do you remember the way the Jets and fandom celebrated losing in AFC Championship games?

  62. raiderrob21 says: Jan 10, 2017 7:30 PM

    You gotta love it. The Raiders are really back! After a 12-4 season the OC is canned and the DB coach is canned. There are high expectations in Oaktown and I love it!

    RAIDER NATION!!!!

  63. yoursoulcollector says: Jan 10, 2017 7:40 PM

    raiderrob21 says:
    Jan 10, 2017 7:30 PM

    You gotta love it. The Raiders are really back! After a 12-4 season the OC is canned and the DB coach is canned. There are high expectations in Oaktown and I love it!

    RAIDER NATION!!!!
    ____________________________________
    And yet you have a coach that doesn’t know the offensive game plan on game day and an owner that has the IQ of a 12 year old. Reggie is running the show and it is more than a one man gig! Help him!

  64. bigmark67 says: Jan 10, 2017 7:55 PM

    Raiders offense was streaky all year and disappeared at times even with Carr under center. Two years in a row Amari Cooper has disappeared late in the year. The QB coach who is replacing Musgrave was not allowed to interview with other teams to be an offensive coordinator so the raiders decided to part ways with Musgrave and keep the young up and coming QB coach. Musgrave’s play calling was suspect at times, not a bad move to bring in a new look with a bright young Off coordinator. The Raiders will be back strong next year and for years to come so get used to it.

  65. nomoreseasontix says: Jan 10, 2017 7:59 PM

    I have never seen a young QB like Carr check out of called plays so often. He was not on board with Musgrave.
    I’m guessing there was some head-butting and Carr won. Carr’s calls at the line worked more than the plays that were called, it seemed to me.
    They’ll promote his QB coach. They have chemistry.

  66. tedmurph says: Jan 10, 2017 8:04 PM

    Last in the league in sacks, last in the league in big plays given up, something is wrong here. The personnel is not living up to their talent. It’s spelled c-o-c-h. Norton should go

  67. v2787 says: Jan 10, 2017 8:37 PM

    “vikingjack73 says:
    Jan 10, 2017 4:59 PM
    I’d like to see Musgrave return to Minnesota
    The Vikings pass offense was a lot more creative & a deep threat with Musgrave calling plays.”

    Sorry, but I disagree. Musgrave was horrible in Minnesota. His offense consisted of Adrian Peterson left, AP right, then incomplete pass on third down. It was incredibly unimaginative and I was glad when he left. Norv Turner was a much better OC than Musgrave ever was.

  68. canadaldavis says: Jan 10, 2017 8:50 PM

    Always got to laugh at all of the “trolls” being on a Raider page, but that’s how some get their kicks I guess!!!

    That is because the fire that burns the brightest,”the will to win!”draws everybody to the flame,Mr. JSPYLE.

    Most other teams have no meaning and thus their fan bases are jealous .It irritates them that even though we have walked through the valley of despair for 14 years,the Raider Nation grew and grew ,in spite of the losing.This does not happen with other teams except for 2 ,maybe 3;Green Bay,Pittsburgh and perhaps Dallas and maybe,just maybe a 4th,,,,the Giants.That’s it.

    The Patriots,Broncos,Chiefs,Seahawks,Falcons,Dolphins,Colts,Chargers,etc. are just not National Teams.They do not matter except to their home city and only when they have their little fling in the” sun of temporary winning” that all teams do from time to time.

    For example,as representative of the Nation, I was at the Tuck Game and a rookie QB had the Patriots within 3 points at half time.The Bostonian people in attendance booed the Patriots into the locker room as they left the field.Those aren’t fans and just about every Patriot fan outside of Boston will disappear as soon as Brady retires and their fling ends.

    But not us,win or lose,the Raider Nation thrives.

    The trolls don’t get it because their team stands for nothing and they never will.Deep down the trolls know that.

  69. toolbelt1 says: Jan 10, 2017 9:18 PM

    So the coach that was the reason they were winning is being run out of town? Is that what the Raiders are telling the world…that if you succeed so much so that people know your name that you have to go? Is Norton Jr. keeping his job because he didn’t succeed…even after all the draft picks and moves the team made to bolster that defense? Are they pulling another “Gruden” move where he is successful and ends up being pushed out of town because of a personal beef? If that is the case then the team and the Davis’ need to change the team’s motto to “Just Win as long as management likes you…otherwise we will push you out for winning too much”. This is why Madden is the winniest coach in the teams history, because he retired after he won a SB…why is that? Why didn’t Madden come back and keep coaching? Is it because Davis came and said you are getting bigger then the team and we need you to go?

    We will take him here in Seattle if the Raiders would like to take Bevell off our hands!

  70. idiedpretty says: Jan 10, 2017 10:05 PM

    Sorry pal, my team is the reigning SB champs and over the last 30 years, we have owned your azzz. I am going to put you down and keep you down and no, I don’t want to be you or part of your Tarp Homeless Tribe. Better luck next year and memba, everything can be gone in a “snap.” LOL!

  71. scorpionking247 says: Jan 10, 2017 10:09 PM

    Not a Musgrave fan but when you’re team is top 10 on offense, regardless to who likes the play calling you don’t change that until forced to do so. KNJ is horrible! The Raiders defense gave up 27 to Brock Osweiler! He was benched because of his horrible play, yet looked like a top tier QB against a KNJ defense. If they keep KNJ the team will continue to suffer with better competition bound to see the Raider schedule next season. Cook also was not ready and that’s on JDR for putting the fish in with sharks in a playoff game. I’m hearing MM could have played but JDR vetoed that idea. On the other hand we don’t know, the “behind the scenes” scenarios with JDR and Musgrave, which could have factored in him not being resigned. In any event KNJ is not a DC, he’s over his head. That should have been obvious when JDR stepped in a few times this year because of the horrible play calling on D. The OAK defense ranked bottom 10 in the league in several defensive categories! There are too many studs on D to have those numbers…too many!

  72. 1pavikingfan says: Jan 10, 2017 10:32 PM

    How about Norv Turner to Oakland as OC?

  73. bassplucker says: Jan 10, 2017 10:44 PM

    Despite all the B1G fanboys proclaiming otherwise, Connor Cook is garbage who got owned by an Alabama defense that would be middle of the road in the NFL. No OC is winning anything with him under center but apparently Musgrave was the fall guy in this case.

  74. TomsulasMustache says: Jan 10, 2017 11:28 PM

    Fan boys talking like they can call plays better than Musgrave. Defending Jack Del Rio’s decision – the “defensive minded” coach that led a historically bad defense. Then makes a scapegoat firing of the DB coach and takes no responsibility for poor performance.

    Musgrave was a top 3 OC this year. These guys questioning a few specific calls are playing MMQB. Agree there were some questionable ones but all coaches make mistakes. Overall he had a great year. Insane to blame him for McGloin and 3rd string rookie Cook starting his first NFL game ever in the playoffs.

    Now they give the reigns to an unknown that has never called plays. Which also breaks up continuity for young QB and offense.

    But fan boys will insist and trust it’s better because they trust in whatever Marky mark and Jack the coward do. Just like they all jumped on the McGloin train bandwagon. But watch they’ll talk mess on Reggie who has actually built a great roster.

    Tomorrow they’ll tune into JT the homer Brick and defend the now 15 years of continued dysfunction

  75. ron69 says: Jan 10, 2017 11:29 PM

    Todd Downing got the well deserved promotion, he was one of the hottest guy around, Raiders were smart to keep him.

  76. thevikes99 says: Jan 10, 2017 11:36 PM

    Musgrave its terrible him and his notepad as a playbook. When he was with the Vikings he had a small cue card for running such a complex offense. The guy is trash

  77. puddinpouch says: Jan 11, 2017 6:05 AM

    Musgrave….Musgrave….sure, I remember that guy. Resurfaces with the Titans every five years.

  78. nbcwantsitsmoneyback says: Jan 11, 2017 8:07 AM

    Obviously anybody who thinks this is a loss didn’t watch very many Raider games this year.

    Would come out with very vanilla plays for most of the game and wouldn’t get creative until they got behind by two scores late in the game.

    If it wasn’t for Musgrave, Carr wouldn’t have needed so many late game heroics..!

  79. vipod4ever says: Jan 11, 2017 9:01 AM

    To be an “elite” qb you need to take the next leap in play calling and have a symbiotic relationship with your hc & oc.

    Based on play calling either early in the game or late when leading, it didn’t appear Musgrave & Carr were on the same page and you can tell JDR mirrored their frustration.

    This move will either elevate Carr to that “on field general” status that’s reserved for the greats (Montana/Manning/Brady/Rodgers) or the entire offensive unit will struggle, especially early in the season.

    Stay tuned…

  80. 81TinaKane says: Jan 11, 2017 11:03 AM

    v2787 says:
    Jan 10, 2017 8:37 PM

    “vikingjack73 says:
    Jan 10, 2017 4:59 PM
    I’d like to see Musgrave return to Minnesota
    The Vikings pass offense was a lot more creative & a deep threat with Musgrave calling plays.”

    Sorry, but I disagree. Musgrave was horrible in Minnesota. His offense consisted of Adrian Peterson left, AP right, then incomplete pass on third down. It was incredibly unimaginative and I was glad when he left. Norv Turner was a much better OC than Musgrave ever was.
    _________________________________

    Musgrave’s offenses in MN ranked 18th, 20th and 13th in total offenses with the likes of washed up QB D. Macnabb, Rookie C. Ponder, and Matt Cassell. Turners Offense in MN with far superior talent ranked 29th and 31st in his too full seasons, not to mention a ton of 5 and 7 step drops to expose the weak oline. Turner sucked and you must be blind to make that type of comment, there is a reason he was pushed out in MN by shurmer, Musgrave wasn’t perfect, but his results were far more impressive with less talent then turners with more talent

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