Yes, the Raiders may go to Las Vegas without Sheldon Adelson

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As PFT and NBC reported weeks ago, the potential relocation of the Raiders to Las Vegas may ultimately occur without the involvement of Sands casino owner Sheldon Adelson.

At Wednesday’s joint meeting of the NFL’s finance and stadium committees, Steelers owner Art Rooney II confirmed on Wednesday that Adelson could be out of the mix.

“The Raiders are looking at the potential of doing [it] without Mr. Adelson if it comes down to that,” Rooney said, via Daniel Kaplan of SportsBusiness Journal.

On both December 20 and December 12, PFT explained that Adelson has been driving a very hard bargain. There also has been an expectation that Adelson eventually will attempt to purchase a piece of the Raiders and/or seek a path to control of it. Raiders owner Mark Davis, who is intent on moving to Las Vegas, would find a replacement for Adelson, if he refuses to relent on various terms of a lease agreement for the Raiders at the new venue.

It may ultimately be multiple persons who replace Adelson with a significant private contribution toward the $2 billion venue. Nevada has passed legislation that will contribute $750 million in public money to the structure.

With no viable stadium proposal in Oakland, a move to Las Vegas is becoming more and more likely. The public acknowledge of the potential replacement of Adelson becomes the next tangible piece of proof that the wheels are in motion for the eventual rolling of the moving trucks to the south and the east.

52 responses to “Yes, the Raiders may go to Las Vegas without Sheldon Adelson

  1. I like that Davis and the league are working to keep the team in the Davis family. Mark is no Al, but toward the end, Al was no Al either. The move will be good for the team and the league, I believe, if the team stays under Davis’ control.

  2. people think raider fans will follow … not this season ticket holder or the ones I talk to on gameday in Oakland.. …. we may be the minority… but I guess it is what it is… . I wont be going to vegas to shell out my money.. best believe that man.

  3. Every few years, Cleveland Browns fan will have something to cheer about. They get to go to Las Vegas.

  4. If Adelson isn’t involved I have a hard time seeing Vegas work out. Adelson is the king of Nevada. Mark would find all kinds of politicians that are Sands stooges playing hardball with him. The permit process and building inspections not to mention “public” litigations would be a nightmare. There would also likely be union work stoppages. Anderson pulls a lot of strings in Vegas.

  5. No chance Raiders move to Vegas.

    Raiders would have to come up with a little over $1 billion.

    That includes making up Adelson proposed contribution and the NFL relocation fee. Mark Davis has nothing to offer suitors unless they relinquish a lion share of the revenue streams from a new facility or Las Vegas owns the venue and the Raiders are the primary tenant. Who is going to contribute to the Raiders hope pie without ownership???

    And if the Raiders can come up with that hefty price tag why not stay in Oakland with their loyal fan base. The league still doesn’t respect Mark Davis and will make it difficult for him to move.

    Raiders are still negotiating against themselves and will ultimately stay in Oakland Raidernation!!!

  6. Makes most sense to hook up with MGM Resorts. With over 10 properties on the strip they can give all their guest boxes and seats between the 20’s. The Venetian, and Sands Guest, well they can now get the upper nose bleeds in the endzone

  7. I live in L.A. and Vegas would be much closer for me. I will probably get season tickets, along with the thousands of other fans they left behind in L.A.
    And Vegas is way nicer and cleaner than that dump of Oakland anyway, much more things to do (besides getting mugged or stabbed)

  8. LOL, is the NFL that out of touch with reality in that they thought that they would be gifted $750 mil without some sort of stake in the organization? Sheldon Anderson is well known as one of the slimiest casino bosses in the industry.

  9. There was a great article this fall in SI on the Black Hole and some of their legendary fans. Almost to a man, they were adamantly opposed to the Vegas move. Can you blame them? Then you have Newbie Nation who just jumped on the band wagon and are happy for the ride. They don’t care. They bought a tshirt and now think they are bad azz. They are jokes.

  10. What’s funny and sad in all of this is that 750 million dollars is enough to build a fine stadium in of itself.

    Why does Mark Davis feel the need to build a Taj Mahal?

    Mark Davis is lucky that Nevada will give him any money, thus if the L.A. option never materializes for him, there is ZERO reason why Las Vegas can’t be done… other than greed of needing a wasteful mecca.

  11. Ever since the public money was approved I’ve been wondering why Adelson was needed any longer. You kept seeing reports that he wanted part ownership in the team but if Davis has financing for his stadium locked up why would he give up any ownership? It never made any sense to me. The time to lock in an ownership stake would have been before public money was approved; Adelson had little to offer after that.

  12. 750 million plus whatever Davis can add to it builds a nice stadium. The university of Phoenix stadium that tge cardinals play in was built for 450 million in 2006 and the entire field walks outside. Adjusting for inflation it adds up to 550 million or so in 2017. Even using common core math Adelsons money isn’t required to get this deal done

  13. The NFL won’t approve with Adelson as a potential owner. A guy like Adelson can’t be involved with something like the Raiders without trying to control it.

  14. The Davis family has never shown a direct committment to a community. Yes they let the players do great stuff and Raider staff help. But go read every owners media guide, community is all over there involvement with local fans and part of community boards and hospitals. mark needs to step up where ever he goes.

  15. The Raiders have been one of the greatest pro sports franchises in America for much of the last 55 years. I think they’ve sacrificed a lot by staying in Oakland. It’s been fun, but it’s time to move on. The only good thing about Oakland is the Raiders. If the City of Oakland can’t put together a plan to keep the team, it’s next man up. If Adelson can’t get it done, it’s next man up there too.

  16. I’m a season ticket holder and I don’t care if they play on Mars I’ll support them no matter what,. I may not get season tickets in Vegas because they will be too expensive, but I will at least travel to a couple games a year. From the womb to the tomb baby. Raiders all day

  17. Raiders could lose their luster and image as the old bad boys in NFL lore in Vegas.

    Who will be in the stands when the Raiders are 8-8 or worse? There are a lot of other things to do in Vegas than go to an NFL game.

    Part of the team identity is the blue-collar nature of the East Bay. It transferred well to L.A. where they became even more bad boys with South Central adopting the Raider look and image. They did not do it with the Rams.

    Oakland or Los Angeles. That is the home of RaiderNation. Not Vegas.

  18. icebowler says:
    Jan 11, 2017 5:52 PM
    I sure hope that Sheldon Adelson never becomes a majority owner of an NFL team.
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    I believe there are rules in place regarding team ownership that have stakes in gambling operations. I think Adelson could not be a majority owner.

  19. Replace Adelson? Yeah right. It’s been *his* deal from the beginning! He came up with this entire project in the first place and its his money and influence that bought the NV vote for taxpayer money. Adelson *owns* Vegas and all its politicians.

    Mark is literally swimming with sharks right now and has no clue what he’s doing.

    And this is all going to be approved in the next 30-60 days? LOL! Sure…

  20. Sometimes the ignorance of some of these Raider haters that post on Raider articles is amazing, go worry about your team. With what Mark has done with this team he is deserved respect. When he said he knows what he knows, and doesn’t what he doesn’t so he will hire a GM was humble and smart. I don’t want my Raiders to move from Oakland, but I believe in Mark Davis and whatever happens I will still cheer and bite my nails. More kudos for being patient with Reggie, something Al was not

  21. I must be the only one who is sick and tired of this team moving there; that team moving somewhere else; another team wanting blah, blah, blah.

    Why don’t you go overseas to China or something.

    I will not peruse any more of these stories, nor will I comment anymore on them.

  22. Over heard conversation at AL Davis grave site: “Daddy we are going to Las Vegas, Nevada. The prettiest town in the whole world!! And Daddy, I am going to have an elephant parade with happy clowns! Oh daddy, isn’t this grand?

  23. Regarding the “Taj Mahal” posts above; Mark Davis has said many times that he doesn’t need another Jerry’s World. If Adleson’s money is not available for whatever reason Mark wouldn’t have to close the gap on a 2 billion dollar stadium. The accommodations could be scaled back a bit and still get built with less dollars from those other than Adelson, who by current NFL bylaws couldn’t even own a small share of the team anyway, let alone control it. Research how the Steelers were forced to go forward after Art Rooney, Sr. passed.

    I don’t have the time nor do I have the inclination to address those that think Mark is out of his league, because they clearly don’t understand what’s going on. Troll on if you must, but you wouldn’t if you understood the situation completely.

  24. Let’s think about this for a minute. Vegas is a night town. Do you really think people will hang around for a hot Sunday evening, hung over from a previous night of partying and gambling? Good luck with that. In the beginning it will be nice, because it’s the new thing in town. But nothing in Vegas lasts more than 5 years before it’s torn down and rebuilt. You better think about this Mark. You’ve been warned.

  25. Sorry @mroshay but “haters” only come when someone is successful. Raiders have no haters, nobody cares about a team that hasn’t won a playoff game since George Bush was president. That’s a big reason why your team is moving, because your team stinks

  26. raiderman81 says:
    Jan 11, 2017 5:05 PM
    people think raider fans will follow … not this season ticket holder or the ones I talk to on gameday in Oakland.. …. we may be the minority… but I guess it is what it is… . I wont be going to vegas to shell out my money.. best believe that man.
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    Do you live close to Oakland? I can see you being upset that you lose local access to the stadium because of the move. But for those of us on say, the East Coast, we have to fly to see them unless they are in NY. No local access whether they move or stay.

  27. Sheldon Adelson is bad news all around. This story if true is good news. Mark Davis is showing himself to be a smart and responsible owner for the Raiders. Las Vegas will be a good home for the team.

  28. Lot of people just in denial. All the information has been out there if people cared enough to read into it.
    But all you hear from is the haters and those who choose to put their heads in the sand and make believe Vegas isn’t happening.
    Sucks they are leaving Oakland but you can thank the mayor and city officials. Sad part is there was a deal to be made in Oakland,that would have cost the city a minimal amount,but greed (not Mark Davis) won out.
    If you think I’m wrong then you haven’t been paying attention or you have been BSed

  29. Mark Davis is FOOLING himself if he thinks Sheldon Adleson allows him anywhere near Las Vegas and that 750M subsidy that HE put together.

  30. punxrawk124 says:
    Jan 12, 2017 12:50 AM

    Lot of people just in denial. All the information has been out there if people cared enough to read into it.
    But all you hear from is the haters and those who choose to put their heads in the sand and make believe Vegas isn’t happening.
    Sucks they are leaving Oakland but you can thank the mayor and city officials. Sad part is there was a deal to be made in Oakland,that would have cost the city a minimal amount,but greed (not Mark Davis) won out.
    If you think I’m wrong then you haven’t been paying attention or you have been BSed
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    When half of your stadium is tarped off because Raider fans don’t care enough to go to home games, how is this the problem of the city?

  31. dasheisenberg says:
    Jan 11, 2017 6:21 PM
    Las Vegas? I thought Hyman Roth lived in Miami…

    Thats funny. Adleson reminds me more of Jabba The Hut….

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