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Brady, Ben, Peyton are 14 of the last 16 AFC Super Bowl quarterbacks

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For the 14th time in the last 16 years, the AFC Super Bowl team will be quarterbacked by Tom Brady, Ben Roethlisberger or Peyton Manning.

That became certain when Brady’s Patriots and Roethlisberger’s Steelers won this weekend to meet in the AFC Championship Game. Either Brady will start his seventh Super Bowl, adding to his own NFL record, or Roethlisberger will start his fourth. Manning also started four.

The only other quarterback to represent the AFC in the Super Bowl in the last 13 years was Joe Flacco, whose team topped Roethlisberger’s Steelers to win the AFC North in 2012, then beat Manning’s Broncos in the divisional playoffs and Brady’s Patriots in the AFC Championship Game. Before that, the last other quarterback to represent the AFC in the Super Bowl was Rich Gannon, whose 2002 Raiders dethroned Brady’s 2001 Patriots as reigning AFC champions.

Sunday will be, incredibly, the 11th time Brady has started in the AFC Championship Game. It will be Roethlisberger’s fifth AFC Championship Game. Manning also started five AFC Championship Games.

Since 2001, the Patriots have advanced to 11 AFC Championship Games, the Steelers six (five with Roethlisberger, one without), the Colts four (three with Manning, one without) and the Broncos three (two with Manning, one without). So counting this year, those four teams will have accounted for 24 AFC Championship Game appearances since the 2001 season, with the other 12 AFC teams accounting for a combined eight AFC Championship Game appearances.

Here’s a list of the starting AFC quarterbacks in the Super Bowl for every season in the 21st Century:

2001: Tom Brady, Patriots.

2002: Rich Gannon, Raiders.

2003: Tom Brady, Patriots.

2004: Tom Brady, Patriots.

2005: Ben Roethlisberger, Steelers.

2006: Peyton Manning, Colts.

2007: Tom Brady, Patriots.

2008: Ben Roethlisberger, Steelers.

2009: Peyton Manning, Colts.

2010: Ben Roethlisberger, Steelers.

2011: Tom Brady, Patriots.

.2012: Joe Flacco, Ravens.

2013: Peyton Manning, Broncos.

2014: Tom Brady, Patriots.

2015: Peyton Manning, Broncos.

2016: Brady or Roethlisberger.

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133 Responses to “Brady, Ben, Peyton are 14 of the last 16 AFC Super Bowl quarterbacks”
  1. navyvandal says: Jan 16, 2017 12:16 PM

    Two of those franchises are phenominal, especially that one off Route 1 in Foxborough 🙂

    Sad thing is i love that goofball Peyton Manning. I was lucky enough to meet him with the pro bowl practice was held on Hickam AFB a few years back when i was stationed at Pearl. I just hate the colts. And to think Reche Caldwell dropped the game. or else it would have been Tommy in a super bowl again that season.

  2. YouCryin?PatsMustBeDoingTheirJob says: Jan 16, 2017 12:17 PM

    Brady is on the list the most! Fact.

  3. Nofoolnodrool says: Jan 16, 2017 12:20 PM

    The revisions in New England will be upset with the factual list of who has been dominating…..but they will try to spin it to be all about the Pat’s…..a very insecure group of sheep.

  4. intrafinesse says: Jan 16, 2017 12:20 PM

    Having hall of fame QBs helps in getting to the super bowl.

  5. cdysart101 says: Jan 16, 2017 12:22 PM

    Robert Kraft makes sure he gives all his players extra kisses to get them pumped up for a championship.

  6. Matt from San Diego says: Jan 16, 2017 12:23 PM

    Didn’t realize how feeble the AFC really was. No wonder they hog the top 10 of the draft every year.

  7. bleck5 says: Jan 16, 2017 12:23 PM

    Make that 15 of 17.

  8. streetyson says: Jan 16, 2017 12:25 PM

    Noteworthy:
    Belichick/Brady 6th straight CG breaks Madden/Stabler’s 5 straight.
    Belichick’s 11th CG as HC breaks Landry’s record of 10.
    (And Brady’s 11th breaks his own record for a starting QB of course).
    And of course, 15 div titles in 16yrs (the 1 missed was on an 11-5 tie break) is a huge record.

  9. churchofthehoody says: Jan 16, 2017 12:26 PM

    Nofoolnodrool says:
    Jan 16, 2017 12:20 PM

    The revisions in New England will be upset with the factual list of who has been dominating…..but they will try to spin it to be all about the Pat’s…..a very insecure group of sheep.

    ___________________________________

    Lol, yup we don’t know how many times the Pats have been to the Super Bowl…..

    Thinking, you should try it sometime….

  10. clashpoint says: Jan 16, 2017 12:26 PM

    Now that said, teams win super bowl not just a team’s qb. I think it’s more indicative of the quality of the franchises those quarterbacks played for. Whether you like them or not, Bill Belichek is the best coach and the Steelers have won 6 titles with only 3 coaches in 48 years. Compare that to the 49ers and Browns, who seem to change coaches every year.

    Go Steelers!
    Mad respect for the Patriots.

  11. YouCryin?PatsMustBeDoingTheirJob says: Jan 16, 2017 12:28 PM

    Nofoolnodrool says:
    Jan 16, 2017 12:20 PM

    The revisions in New England will be upset with the factual list of who has been dominating…..but they will try to spin it to be all about the Pat’s…..a very insecure group of sheep.
    —————————————————–
    Sure thing, tough guy. Just be accountable after the game. I know it will be difficult for you. I hope you don’t have any defenseless pets.

  12. nfliferfan22 says: Jan 16, 2017 12:28 PM

    Funny, who has Brady had to compete against in the AFC East? Tannehill, Moore, Tyrod Taylor, Fitzpatrick, Dirty Sanchez, He has faced no competition.. he has had the easiest roads of any qb and hasn’t had to beat Rodgers, Eli Manning or any team in the NFC who has always had a better league.. The joke is that this franchise(Pats) have only won once in 11 years and it was because of the incompetence of Cheat the Pete and terrible playcalling. Peyton was 3-2 vs Brady and Brady has lost two of his last 3 superbowls. Everyone acts like they have won 5 of 7. They have been consistently good in the regular season but when it comes to winning the superbowl they have been far from good, more like ordinary and terrible! GET YOUR FACTS STRAIGHT TROLLS!

  13. pastabelly says: Jan 16, 2017 12:29 PM

    This is why teams are always looking for franchise quarterbacks and such a big deal was made of whether Flacco was “elite”.

  14. joetoronto says: Jan 16, 2017 12:30 PM

    I don’t see any “running QB’s” on that list.

  15. vipod4ever says: Jan 16, 2017 12:30 PM

    Just like Rhodium, a great QB is an extremely rare & valuable commodity in today’s NFL.

    Think about it…would you rather have a Brady/Rodgers at 50yrs of age or an Osweiler or Smith in their prime?

  16. harrisonhits2 says: Jan 16, 2017 12:31 PM

    This is the modern NFL. Many of the owners are either silver spoon children of the original owners or business people who have purchased a team as an investment.

    None of them have any real drive to win a Super Bowl, only to keep cashing the massive checks that come from TV money and profit sharing.

    The problem with “parity” is that it can’t exist if half the owners aren’t interested in putting a winning product on the field, only in pulling every last dime they can out of their money machine.

  17. fatsolio says: Jan 16, 2017 12:32 PM

    The AFC is such a joke.

  18. celticsforever says: Jan 16, 2017 12:32 PM

    intrafinesse says:
    Jan 16, 2017 12:20 PM

    Having hall of fame QBs helps in getting to the super bowl.
    _________________________________

    Yup – Ben and TB are def. hall worthy.

    I haven’t found the “Stats-Padding” section in Canton yet. But when they do open it I’m sure PED Manning will get in as well.

  19. rjc32586 says: Jan 16, 2017 12:32 PM

    Obviously I’m not rooting for it, but PFT does realize that there is such a thing as injuries, right?

  20. tombradysdeflatedballs says: Jan 16, 2017 12:33 PM

    “YouCryin?PatsMustBeDoingTheirJob says:
    Jan 16, 2017 12:17 PM
    Brady is on the list the most! Fact.”

    Gee, did you come up with that all on your own? That’s precious…..

  21. 6ball says: Jan 16, 2017 12:35 PM

    .
    That’s why teams continually overpay for QBs. Either they’ve got one and are keeping him, or they’re desperately trying to find one.

    Coming out of college this year you have several QBs who are either inexperienced or have questions about their game translating to the NFL. People will be surprised to see the price that Jimmy Garopollo fetches on the open market.
    .

  22. billsfanmike says: Jan 16, 2017 12:36 PM

    So much for the parity league.

  23. tedmurph says: Jan 16, 2017 12:37 PM

    The revisions in New England will be upset with the factual list of who has been dominating…..but they will try to spin it to be all about the Pat’s…..a very insecure group of sheep

    Huh? Drinking before noon is not recommended.

  24. YouCryin?PatsMustBeDoingTheirJob says: Jan 16, 2017 12:38 PM

    nfliferfan22 says:
    Jan 16, 2017 12:28 PM

    Funny, who has Brady had to compete against in the AFC East? Tannehill, Moore, Tyrod Taylor, Fitzpatrick, Dirty Sanchez, He has faced no competition.. he has had the easiest roads of any qb and hasn’t had to beat Rodgers, Eli Manning or any team in the NFC who has always had a better league.. The joke is that this franchise(Pats) have only won once in 11 years and it was because of the incompetence of Cheat the Pete and terrible playcalling. Peyton was 3-2 vs Brady and Brady has lost two of his last 3 superbowls. Everyone acts like they have won 5 of 7. They have been consistently good in the regular season but when it comes to winning the superbowl they have been far from good, more like ordinary and terrible! GET YOUR FACTS STRAIGHT TROLLS!
    ——————————————————–
    I though the whole bath salt thing was a thing of the past?

  25. softhelmet says: Jan 16, 2017 12:39 PM

    Who needs a QB, right?

  26. lanman11 says: Jan 16, 2017 12:40 PM

    And now we know why footballs were “allegedly” deflated. It was to prevent these numbers for Brady from going higher. FAIL.

  27. Rdog says: Jan 16, 2017 12:40 PM

    Marcus Mariota will take over when Brady retires.

  28. YouCryin?PatsMustBeDoingTheirJob says: Jan 16, 2017 12:42 PM

    tombradysdeflatedballs says:
    Jan 16, 2017 12:33 PM

    “YouCryin?PatsMustBeDoingTheirJob says:
    Jan 16, 2017 12:17 PM
    Brady is on the list the most! Fact.”

    Gee, did you come up with that all on your own? That’s precious…..
    ——————————————————–
    Step up your game a little, will ya. You’re embarrassing.

  29. keyshawn22 says: Jan 16, 2017 12:43 PM

    The article should be titled since 2001 only Brady, Peyton, Ben or a University of Delaware Blue Hen has started at QB for the AFC

  30. mmack66 says: Jan 16, 2017 12:43 PM

    Way to go on that parity thing, Rog.

    Some day the rest of the owners will figure out that consistency wins over constant change.

  31. laces out says: Jan 16, 2017 12:45 PM

    some will see that as a parity problem while I just see it as a testament to greatness

  32. Flash1287 says: Jan 16, 2017 12:45 PM

    nfliferfan22 says:
    Jan 16, 2017 12:28 PM
    Funny, who has Brady had to compete against in the AFC East? Tannehill, Moore, Tyrod Taylor, Fitzpatrick, Dirty Sanchez, He has faced no competition.. he has had the easiest roads of any qb and hasn’t had to beat Rodgers, Eli Manning or any team in the NFC who has always had a better league.. The joke is that this franchise(Pats) have only won once in 11 years and it was because of the incompetence of Cheat the Pete and terrible playcalling. Peyton was 3-2 vs Brady and Brady has lost two of his last 3 superbowls. Everyone acts like they have won 5 of 7. They have been consistently good in the regular season but when it comes to winning the superbowl they have been far from good, more like ordinary and terrible! GET YOUR FACTS STRAIGHT TROLLS!

    People like this expose themselves as morons “terrible play call” excuse ignoring the better play made by the Defense

    And ignoring the fact that it was a fluke catch that got Seattle to 5 yard like.

    Firt is it the Patriots fault who the other QB are in the division?
    But if you want to play that argument, what great QB did Manning have to play in his division?

    And do you not realize how STUPID it is to say “they only won one SB in the last 11 years”

    Also ignoring the FACT that they have been to 6 SB in the last 15 years

    Better than your team, fact!

  33. RE LEE says: Jan 16, 2017 12:45 PM

    Enjoy watching Brady and Big Ben now. Peyton is gone. No matter what team you root for, these QBs are great at sustaining success.
    Rodgers, Ryan, and that kid Dak are fun to watch too. It’s amazing the way they play. Rodgers’ playing right now is phenomenal. Ryan is low key but lethal. I like that guy.
    Haters… Try enjoying the games, even the Patriots. We only have a few games to watch now. It’s more fun to watch games with objective eyes. But… to each, his own.

  34. spotsdad says: Jan 16, 2017 12:45 PM

    Robert Kraft makes sure he gives all his players extra kisses to get them pumped up for a championship.
    ——————————————–
    Irsay gives kisses to, ahem, escorts. Not working.

  35. tedmurph says: Jan 16, 2017 12:46 PM

    No the Pats have won 4 of 6 Super Bowls. If they get to the SBowl this year, it will be the 7th time in 16yrs, Wrap your head around that accomplishment.

  36. Flash1287 says: Jan 16, 2017 12:47 PM

    fatsolio says:
    Jan 16, 2017 12:32 PM
    The AFC is such a joke.

    Why doesn’t anyone say this about the AFC south while Manning was in his run in that division

  37. artemidorus says: Jan 16, 2017 12:47 PM

    Not their fault the rest of the AFC has been incompetent with QB’s. How many teams passed on Aaron Rodgers? Every one passed on Russell Wilson. Dolphins had a chance to sign Drew Brees and went with Daunte Culpepper instead. Any one of those 3 things flip and that list could be very different, there were just too many morons running personnel.

    The only pretty good QB in the AFC to fully overlap with all of them is Rivers, who has rotated coaches, and maybe Luck if you’re generous that he had 1 great season and a lot of mediocrity. These teams just recycle the same below-average QB’s hoping for a different outcome (Fitzpatrick, Palmer, Cutler, Pennington, etc.). How do some of these GM’s last longer than te head coaches??

  38. patsfan4lifesbchamps says: Jan 16, 2017 12:49 PM

    The Patriots would have success with anyone at QB. Take the game against the Texans this weekend for example, Brady struggled but the Patriots still won. Heck, the Patriots beat the Texans earlier in the season with Brissette at QB.

  39. dietrich43 says: Jan 16, 2017 12:50 PM

    And in that time, Ben has been a moron and accused of sexual assault, Brady has been ensnared in several cheating scandals (both business and pleasure), and Manning has been probed for PED’s. Role models all.

  40. weepingjebus says: Jan 16, 2017 12:51 PM

    “We can talk about that stuff some other time.” — Game Face Belichick

  41. greglloydrules says: Jan 16, 2017 12:53 PM

    A lot of respect to the Patriots from this Steelers fan. Always there and always relevant. No question the Pats and Steelers have been the 2 most successful franchises in football over the last 16 years. All about longevity and having a system that works with a staff that can implement it. Bill Belichik should be on the cover of every coaching book for any sport as an example of how to have success long term. The Steelers have more Super Bowls than they have had coaches in the past 60 years. Ya that’s a real thing.

  42. imodan says: Jan 16, 2017 12:53 PM

    fatsolio says:
    Jan 16, 2017 12:32 PM
    The AFC is such a joke.
    ———————————————————————-
    uh huh, 50 SB’s and the AFC has 2 less wins than the NFC. This despite the fact the NFC had a huge advantage in the early years. In the last 20 years the AFC leads 12-8. So there’s that.

  43. tennesseeoilers says: Jan 16, 2017 12:54 PM

    Hang on, folks … The AFC era of Derek Carr, Marcus Mariota, and yes, Andrew Luck is just around the corner.

  44. topwonk says: Jan 16, 2017 12:55 PM

    Since NFL teams scrapped the single wing for the T-Formation in the 40s with Sammy Baugh and Sid Luckman leading the way, and then allowed free player substitutions in the 50s, winning in the NFL has been and will continue to be all about the Quarterback.

  45. factschecker says: Jan 16, 2017 12:55 PM

    Cool to think about, since the begging the Raiders, Steelers and Colts had to stop and rebuild from time to time. Meanwhile the Pats have been chugging along for 16 years.

    I’m not bragging. I’m in awe.

  46. spotsdad says: Jan 16, 2017 12:55 PM

    Flash1287 says:
    Jan 16, 2017 12:47 PM
    fatsolio says:
    Jan 16, 2017 12:32 PM
    The AFC is such a joke.

    Why doesn’t anyone say this about the AFC south while Manning was in his run in that division
    ———————————
    Imagine how easy the AFCE would have been if Indy didn’t run away from it cuz Manning couldn’t beat the Patriots.

  47. streetyson says: Jan 16, 2017 12:56 PM

    streetyson says:
    Jan 16, 2017 12:25 PM
    Noteworthy:
    …….And of course, 15 div titles in 16yrs (the 1 missed was on an 11-5 tie break) is a huge record.
    —————-
    And I should have pointed out, for the sake of non-Pats fans, that the one missing year (2008) was when Brady was out injured after the 1st quarter of wk 1. This of course means that Brady, when active as starter, HAS NEVER FAILED TO WIN THE DIVISION! No other QB comes close. And to those fools who claim the AFCE is weak, two facts destroy your case:
    1) Brady’s record outside the Div is slightly better than inside
    2) Not including this year, the Pats have had 10 AFCCG appearances and 6 SB appearances and 4 SB victories in the past 16yrs – currently by far the best in Conference and League, any way you slice it.

  48. petedutcherjr says: Jan 16, 2017 12:58 PM

    Removed NFC because it was not as impressive I see.

  49. tajuara says: Jan 16, 2017 12:58 PM

    Impressive. This kind of show that somehow there is more parity in the NFC.

  50. jbraider says: Jan 16, 2017 1:00 PM

    fatsolio says:
    Jan 16, 2017 12:32 PM

    The AFC is such a joke.
    _____________
    It’s so funny that you would say that, because in 2 of the past 3 years, the AFC has had a winning record against the NFC

    Loser

  51. PFT loves the Steelers says: Jan 16, 2017 1:02 PM

    “Parity”

  52. aarons444 says: Jan 16, 2017 1:04 PM

    The NFL is a League of parity……….. N-O-T!!!!

  53. whywerule says: Jan 16, 2017 1:05 PM

    fatsolio says:
    Jan 16, 2017 12:32 PM
    The AFC is such a joke.
    —————————–

    The AFC has won nine of the Super Bowls played since 2002.
    The NFC has won six of the Super Bowls played since 2002.

    Apparently the AFC is a better comedian than the NFC since 2002.

  54. campcre3k says: Jan 16, 2017 1:05 PM

    celticsforever says:
    Jan 16, 2017 12:32 PM
    intrafinesse says:
    Jan 16, 2017 12:20 PM

    Having hall of fame QBs helps in getting to the super bowl.
    _________________________________

    Yup – Ben and TB are def. hall worthy.

    I haven’t found the “Stats-Padding” section in Canton yet. But when they do open it I’m sure PED Manning will get in as well.

    What about the “Gate” section?? Bc I’m pretty sure Tommy boy will be in a class of his own.

  55. aarons444 says: Jan 16, 2017 1:07 PM

    Patriots fans who insist on defending the AFC East;

    Do you REALLY think Bradys divisional record would be the same if he had to play the Steelers, Ravens and Bengals 6 times each and every regular season?

    DREAM ON!

  56. 6thsense10 says: Jan 16, 2017 1:08 PM

    joetoronto says:
    Jan 16, 2017 12:30 PM
    I don’t see any “running QB’s” on that list.
    —-
    Maybe that’s because the majority of mobile or running quarterbacks play in the NFC?

    Since 2000 below are mobile quarterbacks to have played in the NFC title game:

    Cam Newton, Russell Wilson twice, Colin Kaepernick twice, Alex Smith is fairly mobile, Aaron Rodgers 3 times, Donovan McNabb 4 times, Daunte Culpepper, Michael Vick,

  57. tedmurph says: Jan 16, 2017 1:09 PM

    Nice of a steeler fan to respect the Patriots, as he should. But, to put the steelers in even the same zip code as the Pats is delusional. The steelers are one of many AFC teams that have had their little runs. As have the Titans, Ravens, Broncos, Colts, etc. They’ve all had their down yrs too. Not the Pats. They’re always there.

  58. 6ball says: Jan 16, 2017 1:10 PM

    .
    @patsfan4life – Closeted Jets fan with a fake screen name

    ” The Patriots would have success with anyone at QB. Take the game against the Texans this weekend for example….. ”

    ———-
    Taking the Texans game, it’s abundantly clear that if the teams switched QBs, the Texans win 31-10. This manure that you spread about “anybody” being able to win in the so called Patriots system is absurd.

    Green Bay has a system too. Did you see the system throw that dart to Jared Cook yesterday, while Aaron Rogers looked on cluelessly?
    .
    .

  59. idiedpretty says: Jan 16, 2017 1:11 PM

    Where is Derek Carr? Oh wait, never mind.

  60. jgedgar70 says: Jan 16, 2017 1:15 PM

    I don’t really like any of the teams still playing. But this stat says a lot about these QBs and the franchises they play for. Constant, sustained success. My team doesn’t have that. So yeah, I’m jealous. But I can admit greatness when I see it. Much respect to TB and Big Ben for their and their teams’ sustained level of success.

  61. pillowporkers says: Jan 16, 2017 1:16 PM

    Trent Dilfer won a SB…that one time…way long ago…

  62. twincities90210 says: Jan 16, 2017 1:17 PM

    Rigged. The NFL just like the NBA needs their ‘superstars’ to always be in the championship games.

  63. rollotomasi14 says: Jan 16, 2017 1:24 PM

    Sorry losers, if you take the Pats record out of the AFC East since 2002 and all the division winners during the same time period, the win % of the remaining three teams in each division gives the AFC East the second best %
    NFC East has the best. Fact

  64. factschecker says: Jan 16, 2017 1:24 PM

    Since 2000 below are mobile quarterbacks to have played in the NFC title game:

    Cam Newton, Russell Wilson twice, Colin Kaepernick twice, Alex Smith is fairly mobile, Aaron Rodgers 3 times, Donovan McNabb 4 times, Daunte Culpepper, Michael Vick,
    ———–
    The article is about Super Bowl AFC QB, not the AFC Championship game. Had it been an article about AFC championships Bradys name would have been on it 11 times since 2000. Incredible when you take into consideration that Brady was a rookie and didn’t play in 2000. And he was hurt 8 snaps into the 2008 season. 11 out of 14 is incredible dominance. Especially when the rest of the Pats has turned over 3 times over that span of time.

  65. harrisonhits2 says: Jan 16, 2017 1:25 PM

    “Do you REALLY think Bradys divisional record would be the same if he had to play the Steelers, Ravens and Bengals 6 times each and every regular season?

    DREAM ON!”

    Lol the Brady-Belichick led Pats have something like a .818 winning % vs the AFCN, its their highest winning % against any division including the AFCE. And that includes 10-3 against the Steelers.

    So yes, they would have had the same results if not better.

  66. ratsfoiledagain says: Jan 16, 2017 1:26 PM

    laces out says:
    Jan 16, 2017 12:45 PM
    some will see that as a parity problem while I just see it as a testament to greatness
    ********
    It’s not a parity issue because you just don’t see too many pure pocket passers coming out of college anymore that have the ability, and knowlwdge, that transitions to the next level. That’s what the NFL needs if you want to be successful.

    From there, greatness ‘could’ be attained.

  67. mrkbuilders says: Jan 16, 2017 1:26 PM

    Some of these Patriots fans are obnoxious and make the rest of us look bad….

    “Streetyson”, your first and second post were both WRONG. The Patriots missed the playoffs in 2002; the year NE, Mia & NYJ all finished 9-7. Buffalo finished 8-8 that year and the last wild card went to Cleveland, also at 9-7. I believe like 9 or 10 teams were all within 2 games of eachother.

    If you’re going to be loud and brash, get your facts correct!

  68. mezanine10 says: Jan 16, 2017 1:30 PM

    Look for Brock Osweiler to be on that list soon.

  69. harrisonhits2 says: Jan 16, 2017 1:31 PM

    “Where is Derek Carr? Oh wait, never mind.”

    Not very cool to gloat about a serious injury to a marquee player.

    Not sure who your team is but Pats fans know all too well what that’s like between Brady’s 2008 injury, the ones to Gronk and other important players.

    No real fan of the game relishes injury to any player. Since until the playoffs I have not watched any other NFL games except the Pats I was very much looking forwards to seeing an exciting new star in the form of Carr play.

    Every NFL fan was cheated of a better wildcard game when Carr went down. The playoffs are supposed to be the best games of the year, yet all 4 wild cards were terrible.

  70. teal379 says: Jan 16, 2017 1:38 PM

    Good QB’s no doubt but I see things like this as more of a testament to the team/front office. Sustained success doesn’t hinge on one position as much as it does a good team.

    TB’s very good but his TEAM also went 3-1 without him this year and went 11-5 without him in the past.

    Let me ask you this – if Rodgers was on the Pats instead of Tom – do you think the Patriots would have less success? Unlikely. I also don’t think Tom would have increased the Packers success of late either. The TEAM just isn’t there like it is for him.

  71. aarons444 says: Jan 16, 2017 1:46 PM

    Pats have something like a .818 winning % vs the AFCN, its their highest winning % against any division
    ===

    “Something like”

    While we’re hypothesizing.. I’ll go ahead and continue in my belief that there’s no chance the Pats would fare as well in a division where they had to regularly endure the blood baths the Steelers, Ravens and Bengals have put on eachother with Lewis, Tomlin and Harbaugh at the controls.

  72. aarons444 says: Jan 16, 2017 1:48 PM

    Let me ask you this – if Rodgers was on the Pats instead of Tom – do you think the Patriots would have less success?
    ===

    Would they even lose a game with Rodgers @QB?

  73. m8gaman says: Jan 16, 2017 1:48 PM

    correction, it was Welker who had the drop, not Edelman

  74. comingfromthevacuum says: Jan 16, 2017 1:51 PM

    “Patriots fans who insist on defending the AFC East;

    Do you REALLY think Bradys divisional record would be the same if he had to play the Steelers, Ravens and Bengals 6 times each and every regular season?

    DREAM ON!”

    Tom Brady is 28-7 against the AFC North in his career. \

    LMAO

  75. aarons444 says: Jan 16, 2017 1:52 PM

    ‘I haven’t found the “Stats-Padding” section in Canton yet.”
    ===

    2007-present

  76. nygnjd says: Jan 16, 2017 1:52 PM

    This is why I wanted the Chiefs to win. Nothing against the other teams still in it, I’m just tired of the same old same old. Wanted to see someone new in the SB. Maybe Atlanta will win.

  77. ftomasic1961 says: Jan 16, 2017 1:54 PM

    tedmurph says:
    Jan 16, 2017 12:46 PM
    No the Pats have won 4 of 6 Super Bowls. If they get to the SBowl this year, it will be the 7th time in 16yrs, Wrap your head around that accomplishment.
    —————————————————-

    3 wins during spygate where goodell destroyed the evidence of supposedly minor infractions according to pats fans….

    1-2 after spygate…should be 0-3 after TWCISBH.

    Wrap your head around that tainted record.

  78. pryrates2020 says: Jan 16, 2017 2:00 PM

    It became CERTAIN huh, that for the 14th team in 16 years, the AFC in the SB will be QB’d by Brady, BR, or PEYTON MANNING?

    A, there’s two teams left.
    B, Ya’ll better talk to Peyton and get yourselves a status update quick.

  79. bleck5 says: Jan 16, 2017 2:04 PM

    The Steelers play in the softest division in football.

    I wish the Pats played in the North. Also the division we sweep the most.

  80. vipod4ever says: Jan 16, 2017 2:08 PM

    patsfan4lifesbchamps says:

    The Patriots would have success with anyone at QB. Take the game against the Texans this weekend for example, Brady struggled but the Patriots still won. Heck, the Patriots beat the Texans earlier in the season with Brissette at QB.

    ——–

    I’m no Brady lover… but even for a Pats fan, that is a mighty arrogant comment.

    How does this headline sound?

    “In a surprise move, coach Belichick announces Jacoby Brissett will be the starting qb in the AFCCG vs. the Steelers on Sunday”

    Feel good about your chances?

  81. bleck5 says: Jan 16, 2017 2:10 PM

    And lol at a Packer fan talking about weak divisions. You have a team that has never won a superbowl, another that has never even been to it, a d the freefalling Bears.

    Don’t bring that padded stats nonsense here.

  82. aarons444 says: Jan 16, 2017 2:13 PM

    “The Steelers play in the softest division in football.”
    ===

    Watch the 2015 Bengals-Steelers Wild Card game again and try to convince me the AFCN is “soft”

  83. Flash1287 says: Jan 16, 2017 2:20 PM

    While we’re hypothesizing.. I’ll go ahead and continue in my belief that there’s no chance the Pats would fare as well in a division where they had to regularly endure the blood baths the Steelers, Ravens and Bengals have put on eachother with Lewis, Tomlin and Harbaugh at the controls.

    Funny Montana won 4 SB and played in crap division too

    Why is it the no one ever cries about that, or uses that as an excuse for his greatness?

    #crybabynation

  84. bleck5 says: Jan 16, 2017 2:24 PM

    Watch the 2015 Bengals-Steelers Wild Card game again and try to convince me the AFCN is “soft”

    _______
    You’re right! Soft AND classless.

  85. thefatlazygamer says: Jan 16, 2017 2:26 PM

    Man if I grew up the fan of either the Patriots or Steelers, I would be like a pig in slop. Always having a chance for glory.

    Instead I grew up the fan of a loser and pay for it every year with false hope and expectations. It probably would have been better to spend the last 20+ years rooting for the Browns, at least then I would know without question that my team did not have a chance.

  86. mrpkg says: Jan 16, 2017 2:26 PM

    Two are cheaters — one for deflating footballs and one for taking human growth hormone

  87. vicnocal says: Jan 16, 2017 2:29 PM

    And the only reason Flacco got on that list was because the Broncos totally blew that coverage on Jacoby Jones miracle TD. Otherwise it wouldve been Brady or Manning again that year.

  88. aarons444 says: Jan 16, 2017 2:34 PM

    Playoff apperances since 2001;

    Buffalo Bills – 0 (ZERO)
    Miami Dolphins – 3
    New York Jets – 6

    Baltimore Ravens – 9
    Cincinnati Bengals – 7
    Pittsburgh Steelers – 11

    AFCE > AFCN… LMAO!!!

  89. connfyoozed says: Jan 16, 2017 2:34 PM

    “The Steelers play in the softest division in football.”

    If by softest you mean “least talented”, this was absolutely a down year overall for the AFC North. But the Steelers, Ravens and Bengals have all had recent runs of consecutive and frequent playoff appearances, of continued success. That suggests talent and success, not parity or mediocrity.

    If by softest you mean “least physical”, you are trolling and have no idea what you are talking about. I’m a Steelers fan. I’ve watched them for 35 years. The games against the Ravens and Bengals over the last few seasons were street fights, and some of the most physical games I’ve ever seen. I am biased, and there might be more intensely physical rivalry games out there, but I’d have to be convinced.

  90. aarons444 says: Jan 16, 2017 2:36 PM

    “Funny Montana won 4 SB and played in crap division too”

    The Rams made the Playoffs 7 of 10 years in the 1980s.

    Next!

  91. bencoates57 says: Jan 16, 2017 2:56 PM

    Gannon’s Raiders dethroned no one. The Patriots didn’t make the postseason that year. They finished in a 9 and 7 tie after the toughest sked you’ll ever see and lost the tiebreaker to the Jets … Who lost to the Raiders.

  92. baltimoresnativeson says: Jan 16, 2017 2:57 PM

    Wow I forgot The Ravens went through Brady and Manning that year back to back.
    Thats tough.

  93. blessedunliketherest says: Jan 16, 2017 2:59 PM

    “Something like”

    While we’re hypothesizing.. I’ll go ahead and continue in my belief that there’s no chance the Pats would fare as well in a division where they had to regularly endure the blood baths the Steelers, Ravens and Bengals have put on eachother with Lewis, Tomlin and Harbaugh at the controls.
    __________________________________________

    Its not something like. Brady has an .800 winning percentage against the AFCN. You are hypothesizing. I am posting facts. The bottom line is, Brady owns the AFCN. You can live in fantasy land with all your what ifs, but its only a fantasy.

  94. kd75 says: Jan 16, 2017 3:06 PM

    Parity?
    Or parody?

  95. harrisonhits2 says: Jan 16, 2017 3:16 PM

    ““Something like”

    While we’re hypothesizing..”

    No, it wasn’t hypothesizing. It was merely I couldn’t remember whether it was .816, .817 or .818.

    Brady owns the AFCN

  96. jkcranshaw says: Jan 16, 2017 3:34 PM

    The winner of this AFC Championship will lead their franchise to a record 9th Super Bowl. If it’s the Pats, Brady owns 7 of those appearances, Ben would have 4 (tied for the franchise lead with Bradshaw).

    Amazing work by two greats… All the talk of this being a function of a weak AFC… I could see if the SB outcomes were like the Bills or Vikings…

    Brady is 4 for 6
    Manning is 2 for 3
    Big Ben is 2 for 3

    At that point Divisions, Conferences, and Strength of Schedule get thrown out the window. They are beating the best on the other side 66% of the time.

  97. patsfan4lifesbchamps says: Jan 16, 2017 3:43 PM

    vipod4ever says:
    Jan 16, 2017 2:08 PM

    I’m no Brady lover… but even for a Pats fan, that is a mighty arrogant comment.

    How does this headline sound?

    “In a surprise move, coach Belichick announces Jacoby Brissett will be the starting qb in the AFCCG vs. the Steelers on Sunday”

    Feel good about your chances?

    ———————-

    Playing in this system? I sure do. Plus our defense is better than the Chiefs’ defense that the Steelers struggled with.

  98. peterguzu1234 says: Jan 16, 2017 3:44 PM

    Brady’s Record against the “vaunted” AFCN:

    Pittsburgh 9-2, includes two playoff wins both in AFCCG
    Bengals 6-1
    Cleveland 6-1
    Baltimore 6-1 regular season
    2-2 in post season – includes losses in the Wildcard round and AFCCG.

    Those are facts. This year the Pats are 4-0 against this division. Perhaps this year was a down year for the AFCN, or perhaps every year the AFCN has to play the Pats it is a down year.

  99. aarons444 says: Jan 16, 2017 3:44 PM

    The 3rd best AFC North team (Bengals) has made the Playoffs TWICE as many times as the Jets, Dolphins and Bills in the last decade. (6 to 3)

  100. justafanofnfl says: Jan 16, 2017 3:50 PM

    Since realignment in 2002 there are no teams with a winning record against the Patriots including regular season and playoff games. The NFC has 11 regular season wins against the Patriots in those 15 years. Tom Brady has a .719 winning percentage in playoff games.

  101. bullcharger says: Jan 16, 2017 4:09 PM

    Matt from San Diego says:
    Jan 16, 2017 12:23 PM
    Didn’t realize how feeble the AFC really was. No wonder they hog the top 10 of the draft every year.

    —————

    The Patriots are 51-13 (.797) against the NFC in the Brady era (since 2001).

    They are 145-47 (.755) against the AFC in that same time.

    They’ve been more dominant against the NFC.

  102. comingfromthevacuum says: Jan 16, 2017 4:17 PM

    It’s always hilarious when facts completely blow up the silly narratives of the emotional half wits that are obsessed with pummeling every Pats-related article with their delusions.

    The Patriots beat everyone, consistently. You can play your what-ifs and blah blah blah nonsense all day. Reality does not align with your emotions.

  103. mrfrostyj says: Jan 16, 2017 4:29 PM

    And Peyton is the only one that is a first overall pick in their draft. If that doesn’t tell you the NFL needs a developmental league I don’t know what does.

  104. stlouisfan says: Jan 16, 2017 4:52 PM

    That should show every NFL team the need for a dominate QB. If you don’t have one , you are not going to win. Look at the playoffs this year. The best QBs won every game.

  105. udontknowjaq says: Jan 16, 2017 5:06 PM

    The Brady record proves how pathetic the rest of the AFCE has been. The Patriots get plenty of practice against cupcakes in that division.. I guess that’s why the Pats have only won 1 super bowl in over a decade. When they get to play better competition in the AFC playoffs it’s still 50/50 they can lose & the Pats have choked more than once.. JS

  106. reddzen says: Jan 16, 2017 5:07 PM

    blessedunliketherest says:
    Jan 16, 2017 2:59 PM
    “Something like”

    While we’re hypothesizing.. I’ll go ahead and continue in my belief that there’s no chance the Pats would fare as well in a division where they had to regularly endure the blood baths the Steelers, Ravens and Bengals have put on eachother with Lewis, Tomlin and Harbaugh at the controls.
    __________________________________________

    Its not something like. Brady has an .800 winning percentage against the AFCN. You are hypothesizing. I am posting facts. The bottom line is, Brady owns the AFCN. You can live in fantasy land with all your what ifs, but its only a fantasy.

    —-

    They do not play the AFCN 6 times year on year. Big difference. You play a bunch of teams that until that are very rarely playoff bound, 6 times a year, every year. This isn’t a linear equation.

  107. comingfromthevacuum says: Jan 16, 2017 5:15 PM

    “The Brady record proves how pathetic the rest of the AFCE has been. The Patriots get plenty of practice against cupcakes in that division.. I guess that’s why the Pats have only won 1 super bowl in over a decade. When they get to play better competition in the AFC playoffs it’s still 50/50 they can lose & the Pats have choked more than once.. JS”

    Tom Brady is 23-9 for his career in the playoffs. Try again sweetie!

    Facts are fun.

  108. mark4steelers says: Jan 16, 2017 5:15 PM

    Cheating has been fruitful for the Patricheats!

  109. aarons444 says: Jan 16, 2017 5:16 PM

    The Patriots beat everyone, consistently.
    ===

    Brady, Belichick, Patriots – 0-1 Vs Aaron Rodgers

  110. slatetundra07 says: Jan 16, 2017 5:20 PM

    AFC is weak. Go figure why Brady’s always in the mix. No competition.

  111. aarons444 says: Jan 16, 2017 5:23 PM

    They do not play the AFCN 6 times year on year. Big difference. You play a bunch of teams that until that are very rarely playoff bound, 6 times a year, every year. This isn’t a linear equation.
    ===

    The Patriots failed to sweep Harbaughs Ravens in the two seasons they opportunity to do so. The Patriots WERE swept by the Ravens in 2012.

    This is the first season the Patriots and Steelers will have faced eachother twice in one year.

    Harbaugh and Tomlin are 5-9 against the Pats since they took over their respective jobs (.357)

    The Patriots wouldn’t win at an 80% clip in the AFCN.

  112. blessedunliketherest says: Jan 16, 2017 5:25 PM

    They do not play the AFCN 6 times year on year. Big difference. You play a bunch of teams that until that are very rarely playoff bound, 6 times a year, every year. This isn’t a linear equation.
    __________________________________________

    That does not negate the fact that Brady is .800 against the AFCN. It doesn’t negate the fact that the Pats win percentage outside of the AFCE is on par with inside. In layman’s terms, the Pats are equal opportunity winners. They pretty much beat everyone consistently, except for the Broncos. Your argument would only hold water if the Pats winning percentage was significantly higher inside the division compared to outside.

  113. blessedunliketherest says: Jan 16, 2017 5:27 PM

    Cheating has been fruitful for the Patricheats!
    __________________________________________

    Rich, coming from a Steelers fan.

  114. harrisonhits2 says: Jan 16, 2017 5:38 PM

    “Brady, Belichick, Patriots – 0-1 Vs Aaron Rodgers”

    Unfortunately with Rodgers in the NFC we’ll never get any significant sample size. One game does not demonstrate much for a long term analysis.

    If Rodgers was in the AFC we’d likely have the kind of rivalry that we saw with Brady and Manning and its the results of 15-20 games that give us better football and a better sample to analyze.

    With these 2 guys it might end up being 50-50. They’re both fantastic players.

  115. thirdand43 says: Jan 16, 2017 5:38 PM

    That is a mind boggling fact! Wow!

  116. mmack66 says: Jan 16, 2017 5:39 PM

    Brady doesn’t need or want to play in a division full of scumbags, headhunters, and cheap shot artists like the AFCN Pink and Blue division.

    Humpty Dumpty Ben might not be hurt all of the time if he played in a more civilized division.

  117. csb28 says: Jan 16, 2017 5:44 PM

    baltimoresnativeson says:
    Jan 16, 2017 2:57 PM
    Wow I forgot The Ravens went through Brady and Manning that year back to back.
    Thats tough.

    Good for you. At least you have that to hang onto.

  118. exinsidetrader says: Jan 16, 2017 6:14 PM

    Joe Flacco is not elite.

  119. factpurveyor says: Jan 16, 2017 6:20 PM

    mrpkg says:
    Jan 16, 2017 2:26 PM

    Two are cheaters — one for deflating footballs and one for taking human growth hormone
    ——————————————————————
    Except – the NFL told the judge that they had no direct evidence of anyone letting air out of footballs.

    Except – scientists from universities all over the USA stated that the weather explained the deflation.

    Except – you can search for a video online and watch the PSI drop in footballs when they are moved to where it is cold. The PSI numbers then go back up when the footballs are put back where its warmer. Search for “DEFLATE GATE & WHY SCIENCE SAYS THE PATRIOTS DID NOT TAMPER WITH FOOTBALLS”

    Except – the NFL can’t release the PSI numbers they obtained during the 2015 and 2016 seasons because the numbers would show that footballs deflate in all cold weather games if the footballs were inflated indoors where it is warm.

  120. styro1 says: Jan 16, 2017 6:43 PM

    nfliferfan22 says:
    Jan 16, 2017 12:28 PM
    Funny, who has Brady had to compete against in the AFC East? Tannehill, Moore, Tyrod Taylor, Fitzpatrick, Dirty Sanchez, He has faced no competition.. he has had the easiest roads of any qb and hasn’t had to beat Rodgers, Eli Manning or any team in the NFC who has always had a better league.. The joke is that this franchise(Pats) have only won once in 11 years and it was because of the incompetence of Cheat the Pete and terrible playcalling. Peyton was 3-2 vs Brady and Brady has lost two of his last 3 superbowls. Everyone acts like they have won 5 of 7. They have been consistently good in the regular season but when it comes to winning the superbowl they have been far from good, more like ordinary and terrible! GET YOUR FACTS STRAIGHT TROLLS!
    ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
    Notable AFC QB’s the Pats have faced; Ben, Peyton, Flacco, Gannon, Alex Smith, Luck, Rivers and McNair.

  121. z0inks says: Jan 16, 2017 7:12 PM

    It’ll be interesting to see what the AFC landscape looks like in five years after Ben and Brady have retired.

    Carr and Mariota are leading young teams that appear to be on the rise; perhaps they’ll be the ones to lead the next generation.

    Luck has the talent, but Irsay seems intent on making a mockery of his own organization. Inherent dysfunction is hard to overcome.

    Can Tannehill and Dalton take their games to the next level? Can lightning strike twice for Flacco? Can Rivers pull an Elway and get a ring before riding off into the sunset?

    Lots of questions being asked…and few answers being offered.

  122. philtration says: Jan 16, 2017 7:39 PM

    You removed my comment explaining why I was rooting for the Chiefs to win the Super Bowl?
    No foul language, no insults, no mocking the moderators, no out of place political rant….
    Just saying why I wanted the Chiefs to win.

    I don’t know if that is pathetic, bizarre or both.

  123. phx1sjc says: Jan 16, 2017 7:51 PM

    Tuck Rule

  124. audient says: Jan 17, 2017 11:11 AM

    We can pick on basement dwellers in the AFC like the Browns and the Jags. Point is, if you don’t have an elite QB, a Manning or a Brady or a Big Ben, you’re on the outside looking in. This is true for the Browns, sure, but it is true for the Chargers, the Chiefs, the Dolphins, the Bengals, the Jets, and on and on, everybody but three teams for most of 16 years.

  125. brooks33blog says: Jan 17, 2017 5:59 PM

    And the only reason Flacco got on that list was because the Broncos totally blew that coverage on Jacoby Jones miracle TD. Otherwise it wouldve been Brady or Manning again that year.
    __________________________________________________________

    And the only reason the Patriots got into the Super Bowl in 2012 was because Lee Evans dropped the game winning TD

  126. aj66shanghai says: Jan 18, 2017 3:09 PM

    Patriots fans still trotting out the win % argument as though it proves anything.

    Yes, Jets/Bills/Dolphins are good for 7-9 wins every year. This makes it seem like the division is overall more winning than others, and it is, but that’s all it is. Patriots have never had any real competition from their division. Look at the last 20 years, Jets/Dolphins/Bill have 11 total playoff wins. For you Pats fans, that’s less than one per team every FIVE years. That’s what you call “competitive?” That’s why people can’t stand you, because lie about everything. Nobody has a problem with the Patriots, we just want them to lose so you’ll shut up, if only for 10 minutes.

  127. inozwetrust says: Jan 18, 2017 5:51 PM

    Flacco beats Ben, Peyton and Brady on way to Super Bowl MVP. 11 TD passes and no interceptions in run to championship. That was only done one other time – and not by Ben, Peyton or Brady. Just a barely average QB – right ?

  128. veddermn8 says: Jan 19, 2017 11:26 AM

    inozwetrust says:
    patsfan4lifesbchamps says:
    Jan 16, 2017 12:49 PM

    The Patriots would have success with anyone at QB. Take the game against the Texans this weekend for example, Brady struggled but the Patriots still won. Heck, the Patriots beat the Texans earlier in the season with Brissette at QB.

    ==================

    Brady got knocked around by the #1 defense in the NFL and still hung 27pts on them even though the Pats spotted the Texans some points with bad turnovers.
    If the Pats would be successful with any QB, why is Belichick only 18-19 without Brady starting? Why didn’t he trade Brady for picks and cap space a while ago like he has so many other really good players who started making more money?

  129. veddermn8 says: Jan 19, 2017 11:28 AM

    inozwetrust says:
    Jan 18, 2017 5:51 PM

    Flacco beats Ben, Peyton and Brady on way to Super Bowl MVP. 11 TD passes and no interceptions in run to championship. That was only done one other time – and not by Ben, Peyton or Brady. Just a barely average QB – right ?
    ==============

    Flacco had one great playoff run, but that doesn’t mean he is the Reggie Jackson of the NFL playoffs. He’s more like the Jim Leyritz.

  130. veddermn8 says: Jan 19, 2017 11:32 AM

    aj66shanghai says:
    Jan 18, 2017 3:09 PM

    Patriots fans still trotting out the win % argument as though it proves anything.

    Yes, Jets/Bills/Dolphins are good for 7-9 wins every year. This makes it seem like the division is overall more winning than others, and it is, but that’s all it is. Patriots have never had any real competition from their division. Look at the last 20 years, Jets/Dolphins/Bill have 11 total playoff wins. For you Pats fans, that’s less than one per team every FIVE years. That’s what you call “competitive?” That’s why people can’t stand you, because lie about everything. Nobody has a problem with the Patriots, we just want them to lose so you’ll shut up, if only for 10 minutes.

    ===========

    Another argument basically saying “well your winning more than other teams so the other teams must be terrible, you can’t possibly be that good”, which doesn’t really hold up when you understand that the Patriots have played a first place schedule for 13 of last 15 yrs.

  131. veddermn8 says: Jan 19, 2017 11:44 AM

    aj66shanghai says:
    Jan 18, 2017 3:09 PM

    Patriots fans still trotting out the win % argument as though it proves anything.

    Yes, Jets/Bills/Dolphins are good for 7-9 wins every year. This makes it seem like the division is overall more winning than others, and it is, but that’s all it is. Patriots have never had any real competition from their division. Look at the last 20 years, Jets/Dolphins/Bill have 11 total playoff wins. For you Pats fans, that’s less than one per team every FIVE years. That’s what you call “competitive?” That’s why people can’t stand you, because lie about everything. Nobody has a problem with the Patriots, we just want them to lose so you’ll shut up, if only for 10 minutes.

    ===========

    Pats have played a 1st place schedule 13 of last 15 years and have both the most regular season and playoff wins. They always end up playing the best teams, irrefutable.

  132. captainoffense says: Jan 20, 2017 12:30 AM

    The NFL can preach as much as it wants about parity, but having a Hall of Fame caliber QB is one of the only three ways a team can win a Super Bowl. Having the best Defense in the league is another and the last option is by pure luck (Flacco and Eli twice). Some might argue that Eli is a hall of famer, so I guess it would just be the 2012 Ravens that were lucky in that case. Since the 2000 season the breakdown goes : HOF QB 11/17 (not counting Wilson or Eli as hall worthy) ; Special Defenses 3/17 (BMore ’00, Tampa ’02 and Seattle ’13) ; Pure Luck 3/17 and even those teams had top 15 in the league Qbs with awesome pass rushers. This year will be no exception since all 4 of these quarterbacks are going into the Hall one day.

  133. silvernblacksabbath says: Jan 26, 2017 9:42 AM

    Can you say FIXED???

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