Before Super Bowl LI, teams won 99.8% of games they led by 25

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If Falcons fans thought their 28-3 lead was safe in Super Bowl LI, it’s easy to see why: Leads that big have been safe 99.8 percent of the time in NFL history.

According to the Elias Sports Bureau, prior to Super Bowl LI teams leading by 25 or more points at any time in any NFL game were 2,545-4-2 in the regular season and 102-2 in the postseason. Add it up and only six times in 2,655 games, or 0.2 percent of the time, has a team come back from a 25-point deficit to win a game.

In other words, only about once out of every 450 games in which a team takes a 25-point lead does that team end up losing.

The Patriots, however, weren’t concerned about that. Down 25, they scored 31 unanswered points to win 34-28.

134 responses to “Before Super Bowl LI, teams won 99.8% of games they led by 25

  1. Even more improbable than 6 in 2655, because those games include a mix of unbalanced quality opposition, variable refs, and random changes in weather etc. This was against a conference champion indoors with supposedly the best zebras. The only comparison is in past SB and Championship games = zero chance, never before. The greatest comeback of all time.

    Falcon fans, we feel your pain – Pats lost a perfect season to a single ridiculously lucky helmet catch after Eli just chucked it up as he was hit. You are the best NFC team and only the GOAT HC and QB could have bested you, in OT.

  2. The problem with historical win probability is that the team that was behind by 25 in those games was probably really bad about 90% of the time or more. It’s not a valid percentage. That’s why the playoff percentage is 8 times better than the overall average. The teams are at least not good enough to make the playoffs..

    The Patriots percentage would be even higher because historically they tend to come back in these kind of games, despite being in them rarely. They’ve only been successfully blown out about 5 times in the Brady era and those losses usually come early in the season.

  3. All the more reason to believe the league is rigged. Thanks for the justification stats.
    Only certain teams are allowed to win……..Steelers, Patriots, Packers, & Seahawks. These teams get abundant calls or non calls by officials and the league just looks the other way.

    Rant over. Just want clean pure football played and officiated in 2017.

  4. The falcons collapsed no question. And only one team and one QB in the history of the NFL could have come back from that. The pats and Brady, no question.

  5. The Falcons NOT setting up for a Bryant field goal attempt was the worst Super Bowl coaching decision since, well, two years ago. Quite remarkable how basic these decisions were, but somehow weren’t made.

  6. From Peter King: When Joe Greene and Jack Lambert were drafted by the Steelers, the team had control of their services until the organization didn’t want them anymore. So Pittsburgh hit the draft jackpot and won four Super Bowls and nine division titles in 13 years. That’s what makes the Patriots’ .766 regular-season winning percentage in their 16-year run so impressive…

  7. Which of course will bring the conspiracy theorists out of the woodwork, who don’t realize that it is statistically less likely for something with a .2% chance of occurring to never happen at all, than to happen about 1 in 500 times.

  8. And the league accused Tom Brady of being generally aware of footballs that were 0.2% deflated. Perfect.

  9. Usually, it’s the scrub quarterbacks who fall behind by 25 points. The chances of a comeback with a Brady or a Peyton Manning would be much higher. All it really took in the SB was that one strip sack and you could see Brady’s eyes light up and you knew we had a ball game.

  10. Falcons 2nd half tasks:

    ▫️Milk the play clock
    ▫️Run the (damn) ball
    ▫️Kick the field goal
    ▫️Win the Super Bowl
    ▫️Start your new job

    20% of the list was executed.

    Smartest guy in the room syndrome at its worst

    Congrats to the Pats

  11. When you look up the definition of “team,” in the dictionary, there is a picture of the New England Patriots logo.

    Coming back 25 points in the Super Bowl was a complete team effort.

  12. Now there’s a headline that shocked me. So you’re saying a team up by 25 pts wins almost all the time? Wow.

  13. Just think of scoring with all the ladies you ever met during your life that you thought you only had a .2 chance to be with.

    Happy FRIDAY football fans!

  14. It’s all about the collapse, baby. Plenty of other teams could have made that comeback. Just glad that the falcons were on the losing end. #riseupthis

  15. They’ve only been successfully blown out about 5 times in the Brady era and those losses usually come early in the season.
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    And usually in Miami.

  16. And now, even Arthur Blank agrees that Brady is the GOAT. It was interesting to watch Blank’s mood change on the sidelines as the game went on….probably wished he had stayed in his box longer instead of coming down to celebrate way to early.

  17. The most astute Falcon as far as I am concerned, is Ricardo Allen. Within 5 minutes of losing the SuperBowl he stated, “I will start training, probably, in two days,” safety Ricardo Allen said. “Because apparently it ain’t good enough.”

    As disappointed as he was, he was smart enough to realize that having a 99.8% win probability guarantees nothing and there was no time to lose. Although he didn’t phrase it that way, it seems like he embraced Belichick’s mantra of “No Days Off” before Belichick even said it.

    Don’t know if he will follow through. But if he does, clone the guy and then see how fast you will reach parity.

    Belichick has no secrets. Everything that brings the team success is done openly. However other teams/players just don’t want to do the work. Allen will be interesting to watch. He may be a Belichick believer.

  18. Down 25 in the 3rd quarter of the Super Bowl Brady turned to Jimmy G and said “Hold my rings, I’ll meet you at the podium.”

    The rest, as they say, is history. The stuff of legend kind of history.

  19. People will say the Falcons choked but the other element was the Pats executing perfectly on 30-40 plays. If they had failed to execute on even one of those pkays the Pats probably lose.

    Comebacks like this only happen when a team has a huge amount of heart and belief in themselves. It ould easily have ended up like the Donks losing so badly a few SBs ago. Instead the Pats reached deep inside and found the raw willpower to win

  20. changinglife2016 says:
    Feb 10, 2017 6:57 AM

    The game was handed to NE by the officials. The fix was in. May never watch NFL again.
    _________________
    I for one, will miss your keen attention to detail and your fair and unbiased viewpoints. God speed my friend!

  21. “And only one team and one QB in the history of the NFL could have come back from that. The pats and Brady, no question.”

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    I am not going to argue the point with you, and Brady is certainly a great QB, but there are several who COULD have come back from that, but they never had to. Unitas, Montana, Staubach, Bradshaw, Starr, Elway and many others were equally capable of leading a team back from a huge deficit. However, in their championship games, they were NEVER that far behind, so the point is moot. We just don’t know. However, particularly with Joe Montana, I saw him play many times and many times he brought his team back from a deficit in the last 2 minutes of a game. He may be the GOAT, I don’t know, but he is definitely the best NOW.

  22. rootpain says:
    Feb 10, 2017 9:02 AM
    The most astute Falcon as far as I am concerned, is Ricardo Allen. Within 5 minutes of losing the SuperBowl he stated, “I will start training, probably, in two days,” safety Ricardo Allen said. “Because apparently it ain’t good enough.”…

    Taylor Gabriel knows his football.

    Falcons go up 21-0…

    Gabriel: “It’s Tom Brady tho”
    Sanu: “We bout to put up 40 on they ass”
    Gabriel: “Man…. we got to”

  23. So basically there have been three storylines worked to death the last 10 days:

    1) The Falcons historic choke.

    2) The Falcons organizational implosion in the wake of their historic choke.

    3) The Patriots toolish behavior towards the Commish and the POTUS since the win.

    Eagerly waiting for the combine in hopes for some new topics to read about and I’m sure the writers are ready to cover something else by now, too.

  24. changinglife2016 says:
    Feb 10, 2017 6:57 AM
    The game was handed to NE by the officials. The fix was in. May never watch NFL again

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    This is some good stuff. Fiction at it’s best.
    This SB win has shut down the Haters arguments once and for all. They must now reach to newer and more idiotic heights than ever before to launch they’re incredibly weak attempts at disparaging the the last NFL Dynasty.

    I no longer feel any need,as a lifelong Pats fan (who goes way back before 2001, thank you morons), to respond in any fashion to the haters absurd insults and extraordinary attempts at insulting this Team or this region. 99.9% of you don’t know the first thing about New England. And I can confirm, without a doubt, that Hatriot nation created this PFT monster by continuing to insult and disparage this region and this team.

    The Pats have put this all to rest, Once and for All.
    Snipe away all you want hatriot nation.
    Your lame crybaby, idiotic outbursts and outrageous assertions FALL ON DEAF EARS HERE IN NE.
    We know what we know, and we know you know it too.
    In this modern era on the NFL, there is none higher than the New England Patriots.

  25. If pats fans weren’t already the most obnoxious on earth you had to throw this chum in the water?

    By the way– to the patronizing pats fan above, you’re right. The Eli play has now been counterbalanced by luck you got this time. Edelman. No face mask on sanu. IG in EZ on game tying drive. Any one is different, you lose.

  26. What were the other 5 games that were lost, when a team lead by 25 points?

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    I am sure that one of them was “The Comeback” on January 3, 1993 between the Houston Oilers and Buffalo Bills. The Bills came back from a 32 point deficit to win the game. They eventually went to the Super Bowl where they were stomped by the Cowboys.

    It’s the greatest comeback in NFL history.

  27. elmerbrownelmerbrown says:
    Feb 10, 2017 9:14 AM
    BEFORE SUPER BOWL LI THE PATRIOTS DID NOT FACE A TOP 10 QUARTERBACK EITHER

    But yet still managed to Hold the highest scoring offense to 7 points in the second half.

    So keep typing in all caps crybaby, knowing the Patriots just won Super Bowl #5 and your Giants suck!

    #trollboy

  28. A lot of people are saying it was all about Brady. Only Brady could have done that. But it wasn’t just Brady, it was the entire team that made the difference.

    It wasn’t like in many prior SBs where a team win was decided by a single play. It was a huge shift in momentum and attitude on the part of both ball clubs. It was an entire game of football that decided the eventual winner.

    The Falcons came into the game very high on adrenaline. Their youth and energy was what established their first half lead, but they also ran out of gas before halftime. You could sense the change immediately in the second half and if we could sense it watching on TV from the sofa, imagine how obvious it was to the players on the field.

    Yes, Brady is the most accomplished QB ever. The stats tell us that. Whether he is the GOAT or not is subjective, and can never be determined without bias because others played in different eras under different rules, etc.

    But after watching yet another Patriots team have the kind of success that we all just witnessed, and what has been going on in New England for the past 15 years straight, there is just no question that Bill Belichick is the GOAT NFL head coach. Arguably the best coach ever in any sport.

  29. I am not going to argue the point with you, and Brady is certainly a great QB, but there are several who COULD have come back from that, but they never had to. Unitas, Montana, Staubach, Bradshaw, Starr, Elway and many others were equally capable of leading a team back from a huge deficit. However, in their championship games, they were NEVER that far behind, so the point is moot. We just don’t know. However, particularly with Joe Montana, I saw him play many times and many times he brought his team back from a deficit in the last 2 minutes of a game. He may be the GOAT, I don’t know, but he is definitely the best NOW.

    Give it a rest. And YES Elway was that far behind and NO he didn’t come back.

  30. ^^^^^btw, in my comment, up near the top, I mistakenly stated the game was under a roof. Of course, the roof was open – sorry! – but my point about weather not being a factor still stands because had the weather been bad they would have closed it.

  31. elmerbrownelmerbrown says:
    Feb 10, 2017 9:14 AM
    BEFORE SUPER BOWL LI THE PATRIOTS DID NOT FACE A TOP 10 QUARTERBACK EITHER

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    Steelers’ fans will argue this point. Besides, the Pats defense practices against the #1 QB of all time every week. Of course all other QBs will appear weak to the Pats D.

  32. The 2 point conversion rule is a big reason they were able to come back. Not taking away anything from the Pats, because the 2 point conversion is not easy.

  33. justintuckrule says:
    Feb 10, 2017 9:36 AM

    If pats fans weren’t already the most obnoxious on earth you had to throw this chum in the water?

    By the way– to the patronizing pats fan above, you’re right. The Eli play has now been counterbalanced by luck you got this time. Edelman. No face mask on sanu. IG in EZ on game tying drive. Any one is different, you lose.
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    There was no IG; Brady was hit as he threw.

    And if anyone was going to get a face mask flag on them it was Sanu who pulled the defenders helmet clean off. Should have pushed the Falcons back another 15.

    But, it doesn’t matter know, NE has won 2 SBs since the Giants have won a playoff game, Eli is rocketing toward the end of his career and you have a coach who will never win anything of consequence.

  34. Actually, the Falcons coaches and players were only the third most embarrassed on Sunday night…behind Arthur Blank, and of course, Roger Goodell. What an awkward trophy presentation that was….and I loved it.

  35. Probably because 99.8% of those teams didn’t have an inept offensive coordinator and head coach who didn’t step in and call the plays. Ryan was never using the 40 second game clock, constantly snapping the ball with 10-20 seconds left. That alone lost the game not to even mention the 3rd and 1 and 1st and 10 from the 22. Really, how hard is it for someone upstairs to tell Ryan to use the play clock? Aren’t these suppose to be the best football minds in the world? The coaching outside of NE is the real reason why NE continues to dominate and I’m not a Pats fan (Giants fan). The Pats certainly don’t have the most talent. The coaching in the NFL is at an all time low and it makes it so easy for a well coached franchise to dominate. it’s really that simple.

  36. another record broken by the greatest franchise
    in sports history

    jimmy g to go for a 1st and a 4th to stick it up
    sheriff goebbel’s rectum

    jealousy to rage on

    what a delight being a pats fan for 35 years

  37. changinglife2016 says:
    Feb 10, 2017 6:57 AM

    The game was handed to NE by the officials. The fix was in. May never watch NFL again
    ________________________________

    Don’t let the door hit you on your way out and don’t forget to take your tinfoil hat with you. Your mom’s basement surely isn’t safe from the alien mind probes.

  38. changinglife2016 says:
    Feb 10, 2017 6:57 AM
    The game was handed to NE by the officials. The fix was in. May never watch NFL again

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    The officiating was excellent! There weren’t even any. Controversial calls in the whole game.

  39. elmerbrownelmerbrown says:
    Feb 10, 2017 9:14 AM

    BEFORE SUPER BOWL LI THE PATRIOTS DID NOT FACE A TOP 10 QUARTERBACK EITHER

    and in sb 51, they faced a huge top tier qb.. good god you are dense

  40. changinglife2016 says:
    Feb 10, 2017 6:57 AM

    The game was handed to NE by the officials. The fix was in. May never watch NFL again.
    _________________

    stop posting in online forums, that’s the best way to show your displeasure

  41. elmerbrownelmerbrown says:
    Feb 10, 2017 9:14 AM

    BEFORE SUPER BOWL LI THE PATRIOTS DID NOT FACE A TOP 10 QUARTERBACK EITHER

    I guess the other teams they face ought to develop qb’s better, ya think? maybe?

  42. I don’t think you can put a percentage on a comeback chance. Each game is different so to put a percentage on it is dumb.

    I would’ve put the comeback chances of the Pats at 100% if I would’ve been told some of the decisions and calls the Flacons had in store. It was the most epic collapse I have witnessed.

  43. There was one team in the NFL this season with the guts, the belief and the ability to come back and win that game and that was New England.

    The Steelers, Giants and Cowboys would never have done it – if they were capable of it, they’d have done it in their playoff losses and made it to the SB.

  44. Actually it was Japan who bombed Pearl Harbor. LOL

    That was a complete TEAM effort, in addition to Brady and the entire offensive playing well in the 2nd half, so did the defense, so did special teams, they forced Atlanta to return kick offs and nailed them inside the 15 on most plays.

  45. And then the Falcons played and blew it. That is what inexperience does when playing smarts guys like Brady and BB.

  46. “marmac2768 says:
    Feb 10, 2017 9:31 AM
    “And only one team and one QB in the history of the NFL could have come back from that. The pats and Brady, no question.”

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    I am not going to argue the point with you, and Brady is certainly a great QB, but there are several who COULD have come back from that, but they never had to. Unitas, Montana, Staubach, Bradshaw, Starr, Elway and many others were equally capable of leading a team back from a huge deficit. However, in their championship games, they were NEVER that far behind, so the point is moot. We just don’t know. However, particularly with Joe Montana, I saw him play many times and many times he brought his team back from a deficit in the last 2 minutes of a game. He may be the GOAT, I don’t know, but he is definitely the best NOW.”

    That is just a blatant lie. I know Elway for sure got blown out in a few Super Bowls, meaning he WAS that far behind. Montana didn’t fall that far behind in any Super Bowls, but plenty of playoff games saw him fall far behind and he was unable to recover. Bradshaw and the Steelers didn’t win every year in the 70’s, they lost a few games against the Raiders in the playoffs where they fell behind and he wasn’t able to bring them back. Staubach lost a few lopsided NFC title games in his day where he was unable to bring his team back. All QBs fall behind at times in big games.

  47. Funny how the leagues best offense all season was reduced to “inept” in the opinion of those who previously had deemed them unstoppable. So did the Falcons OC just all of a sudden lose his mind? Perhaps there’s another answer,

    the NFC is not the stronger conference. His game plan would have worked against a lesser opponent. Atlanta was ahead more due to NE gifting them pick 6’s and field position by fumbling than Atlanta overpowering NE.

    Dallas couldn’t get by GB which was crushed by Atlanta. Those were the best the NFC had to offer.

    All these debates have been settled.

  48. dcpatfan says:
    Feb 10, 2017 7:25 AM

    …..and then came The 5X Superbowl New England Patriots!!

    I am So Proud To Be a Patriot!!!
    =================================
    What position do you play?

  49. “I think Brian Hoyer and the Cleveland Browns were the last team to trail by 25 and storm back to win.”
    Cleveland would have the most opportunities to do this…

  50. elmerbrownelmerbrown says:
    Feb 10, 2017 9:14 AM

    BEFORE SUPER BOWL LI THE PATRIOTS DID NOT FACE A TOP 10 QUARTERBACK EITHER

    and this matters why?

    They beat the MVP. Not just the best QB, the best PLAYER in the NFL. Kinda makes all those “never faced a top QB” kinda pointless. What does it matter how they got there? Fact is, they beat the best the NFC had to offer.

    Game
    Set
    Match.

  51. justintuckrule says:
    Feb 10, 2017 9:36 AM
    If pats fans weren’t already the most obnoxious on earth you had to throw this chum in the water?
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    Oh come on, we don’t need Florio or PFT to help us be obnoxious. It’s a consequence of sustained excellence over 16 years and putting up with the envy of 31 other teams. Believe me, you’d love being this obnoxious if your team could do what the Patriots do.

  52. To the poster above who asked, here’s a list of games where teams came back from 25+ point deficits:
    Cardinals defeat Buccaneers, 10/08/87 – 25 Points
    Browns defeat Titans 10/05/14 – 25 Points
    Bills defeat Colts 09/21/97 – 26 points
    Colts defeat Chiefs 01/04/14 – 28 points
    49ers defeat Saints 12/07/80 – 28 points
    Bills defeat Oilers 01/03/93 – 32 points

  53. Offsetting fouls Carlos. Replay down. Changes everything. You’re dreaming on the IG. Ball was out before he was hit. He clearly threw it to an open space. You’re silent about Edelman. You’ve been crying for 10 years that Samuel should have caught it.

    This isn’t about Eli. I know bashing him makes you feel 1% better but at the end of the day, they’ll still be a big fat “yeah but” on your saint Brady’s tombstone.

    Cheers.

  54. marmac2768 says:
    Feb 10, 2017 9:31 AM

    I am not going to argue the point with you, and Brady is certainly a great QB, but there are several who COULD have come back from that, but they never had to. Unitas, Montana, Staubach, Bradshaw, Starr, Elway and many others were equally capable of leading a team back from a huge deficit. However, in their championship games, they were NEVER that far behind, so the point is moot.
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    It’s win or go home so every playoff game is the equivalent of a championship game for the loser. In the SB era Unitas lost a playoff game by 21 points, Montana by 46, Staubach by 24, Bradshaw by 19, Elway by 45 and Brady by 19 but only one of them ever came back from a 25 point deficit on the world’s biggest stage

  55. Patskrieg says:
    Feb 10, 2017 9:36 AM
    I guess it pays to have a quarterback who’s better than 100% of quarterbacks of all time.

    OK, kinda dickish but you understand you just said Brady is better than himself, right?

  56. cardinealsfan20 says:
    Feb 10, 2017 5:38 AM

    .2% chance is still a chance. It’s not over until it’s over.

    As anyone who plays poker knows – even a 1-outer is 10 X MORE likely to hit than coming back from a 25 point deficit.

  57. justintuckrule says:
    Feb 10, 2017 10:55 AM

    Offsetting fouls Carlos. Replay down. Changes everything. You’re dreaming on the IG. Ball was out before he was hit. He clearly threw it to an open space. You’re silent about Edelman. You’ve been crying for 10 years that Samuel should have caught it.

    This isn’t about Eli. I know bashing him makes you feel 1% better but at the end of the day, they’ll still be a big fat “yeah but” on your saint Brady’s tombstone.

    Cheers.
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    Nonsense. And revisionist history. And blatant homerism. The Giants have lucked into more SB wins than anyone starting with the Norwood shank.

    I’m quite satisfied with the 5 SB titles.

    Let me ask you this: If Brady wins #6 before he retires, will you finally admit he the GOAT? I’d like to just get this in print here so we can avoid the silly backtracking down the road.

  58. I’m the homer? Yah, ok.

    He doesn’t need to win a 6th. I’ve thought he was the goat for years now. So defensive you are. Lol

    And way to avoid everything I said. You’re clearly running in circles here.

  59. “The officiating was excellent! There weren’t even any. Controversial calls in the whole game.”

    Actually there was. The penalty on the Pats for the LB jumping Atlanta’s Oline was incorrect. They called him for jumping the center which is illegal, when replay clearly showed him jumping the gap between center and guard which is legal.

    Thankfully that made no difference in the outcome and as far as blown calls there have been many that were far worse.

  60. Proof I’m less homer than you’ll ever be, I’ll even say that he’s the greatest football player ever. I’m putting him ahead of the great LT. Feel better now mr. Insecurity?

  61. I just listened to Mike Francesca’s SB recap on the radio.

    He says that even though it was obvious PI vs Martellus Bennett in OT, that should not have been called since it’s the SB and you need to “let them play”.

    So when a Giant toadee sees a call in the Patriots favor, he says it was over-officated.

    Yet when a no call favors NE, justintuck is in here arguing for more calls.

    It’s just clear as day the Gaints fans are miserable and having a tough time watching NE win a 2nd SB since the Giants have even won a playoff game.

    Who can blame them – they had a good season, seemed poised for their once every 5 year title run and then imploded in GB putting up a miniscule effort in a big game.

  62. “The pats gagged 2 4th q sb leads too. Just sayin”

    That statement actually takes away from your own team’s accomplishments.

    I would think instead you would say Eli and the Giants offense played great on the final drives in both those games.

    And c’mon man. You know as well as anyone that Tyree could have had 20 careers as long as he had an never made that helmet catch again. He was out of the league before the middle of the following season and has never played again.

    That said with Edelman’s miraculous catch Pats fans now have our own equivalent and should never complain about Tyree again.

  63. ” If you wanna see someone walk on water tonight give Tom this ball back with any time on that clock.” —- Vincenzo Williams

  64. marmac2768 says:
    Feb 10, 2017 9:31 AM

    I am not going to argue the point with you, and Brady is certainly a great QB, but there are several who COULD have come back from that, but they never had to. Unitas, Montana, Staubach, Bradshaw, Starr, Elway and many others were equally capable of leading a team back from a huge deficit. However, in their championship games, they were NEVER that far behind, so the point is moot.

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    Elway? Elway led teams that got crushed in both the playoffs and the SB!!!!

  65. Dude. You’ve clearly left the reservation. I’m glad they didn’t call the earlier penalties. I’m just pointing out that the calls could have easily went against you. Henceforth and to wit 07 and 16 luck factors are now awash. Capeche?

  66. justintuckrule says:
    Feb 10, 2017 11:26 AM

    Proof I’m less homer than you’ll ever be, I’ll even say that he’s the greatest football player ever. I’m putting him ahead of the great LT.
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    See? That wasn’t so hard.

    And wouldn’t the “insecure” guy be the Giant fan following every single Patriots article injecting irrelevant comments David Tyree and Eli Manning?

  67. I know the Brady family and others in the organization went through hell in connection with Deflategate but the way the Patriots won two years ago against Seattle and this year against the Falcons is a real life Count of Monte Cristo epic.

    As Joe Thomas said, the rats are scurrying but history has their number. To the victor goes the spoils but Goodell, Grigson, Wells, Irsay, Mortensen and other rats will own what they did forever.

  68. justintuckrule says:
    Feb 10, 2017 11:40 AM

    Dude. You’ve clearly left the reservation. I’m glad they didn’t call the earlier penalties. I’m just pointing out that the calls could have easily went against you. Henceforth and to wit 07 and 16 luck factors are now awash. Capeche?
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    Not even close.

    The Tyree catch only counts because the refs decide to let blatant holding against multiple Giant O-lineman go uncalled.

    The league obviously did not want the Patriots to go undefeated that year and they made sure of it in the SB. It’s as simple as that.

  69. I remember, prior to the first time I stepped in horse manure, there was a 100% chance I didn’t track it onto the carpet in my parents home…

    Trying to draw a comparison here…

  70. elmerbrownelmerbrown says:
    Feb 10, 2017 9:14 AM
    BEFORE SUPER BOWL LI THE PATRIOTS DID NOT FACE A TOP 10 QUARTERBACK EITHER
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    Seems by his play, Ryan shouldn’t have been a top 10 quarterback now does it ?!?!?!

  71. nhpats says:
    Feb 10, 2017 11:38 AM
    marmac2768 says:
    Feb 10, 2017 9:31 AM

    I am not going to argue the point with you, and Brady is certainly a great QB, but there are several who COULD have come back from that, but they never had to. Unitas, Montana, Staubach, Bradshaw, Starr, Elway and many others were equally capable of leading a team back from a huge deficit. However, in their championship games, they were NEVER that far behind, so the point is moot.

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    Elway? Elway led teams that got crushed in both the playoffs and the SB!!!

    **************************************************

    He also held the record for most fourth quarter comebacks in history for a while.

  72. Carlos – Icouldnt be more secure. I come to these threads for fun fun fun. My team has two glorious rings. It’s you guys that feel the. We’d to minimize them. It doesn’t bother me in the least. We beat the greatest player ever TWICE! I root for the pats as my #2 team believe it or not.

  73. The statistic is skewed… “teams leading by 25 or more…” The games with teams leading by more than 25 points should be excluded from the analysis.

    On the other hand, the statistic of teams losing games after having a lead of 20-25 points in mid third quarter would be interesting.

  74. Elway? Elway led teams that got crushed in both the playoffs and the SB!!!

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    He also held the record for most fourth quarter comebacks in history for a while.
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    The most overrated line of thinking in sports. And did Elway fall behind in all those games because he was killing it out there?

  75. dansardo says:
    Feb 10, 2017 6:12 AM

    The falcons collapsed no question. And only one team and one QB in the history of the NFL could have come back from that. The pats and Brady, no question.

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    Actually Frank Reich was able to do it against the Oilers in the playoffs down 32 points. Oddly enough, he also owns the largest comeback in CFB as well (31 points down versus the “U”).

    Montana brought the Niners back from a 28 point deficit against the Saints in 1980 (sans Jerry Rice).

    Manning in his prime would be capable – scoring 21 points against the Pats in the AFC Championship.

    Man, but SBLI was crazy. Good stuff.

  76. ustintuckrule says:
    Feb 10, 2017 1:19 PM
    Carlos – Icouldnt be more secure. I come to these threads for fun fun fun. My team has two glorious rings. It’s you guys that feel the. We’d to minimize them. It doesn’t bother me in the least. We beat the greatest player ever TWICE! I root for the pats as my #2 team believe it or not.
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    So then you come here to troll with the statement that “If pats fans weren’t already the most obnoxious on earth …” to be nothing but a dick for “fun, fun, fun” and still try to claim your security? From my perspective you’re exactly that – an insecure trolling dick. Grow up the hell up, kiddo.

  77. georgeremus says:
    Feb 10, 2017 10:04 AM

    The Pats certainly don’t have the most talent.
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    Is this really true?

    Perhaps the average fan has no idea how to evaluate talent? Fans fall in love with the famous names and don’t notice that a guy is not playing at an elite level anymore )if he ever was to begin with). Belichick always talks about players improving during the season, fans assume a guy is permanently at whatever level they perceive or have been told he is.

    My sense is that NE has plenty of talent, far better depth than most teams and a locker room full of guys that are absolutely fixated on winning. If they aren’t, they’re gone.

  78. I just watched that incredible SB victory for the ages again. And WOW, again!

    And the icing on the cake? The NE haters here on PFT don’t seem to be taking things too well. I can only imagine their emotional swing as it all began to come apart for them.

    While SB49 was like a knockout punch to the jaw by MButler, this one was like body shot after body with a few haymakers thrown in before the final knockout. This one appears to have really left a mark.

  79. Seems like you guys have experienced the last NFL 15 years or more. The NFL agenda has gotten so blatant that from week to week to create storylines, ratings, drama and this one put it over the top.

    Follow the money, Goodell has 34 million reasons a year to be the bad guy. The owners support him because they all win with profits, currently around 16 billion per season? The goal is 25 billion.

    The globalization isn’t working, Toronto Bills, fail, London Jaguars? Fail. Why 2 LA teams now? Revenue. The sad part is having the taxpayers fund the owners new stadiums. Sad. They are all billionaires.

    The large market teams create revenue for media (6 billion to the NFL). The media will not exploit the envolvment to be black balled.

    My two cents beyond the zebras and GOATS is bigger, its entertainment. Sorry all you Santa believers. I can’t watch this.

  80. I also heard that Arthur Blank ordered Heimlich maneuver posters be hung up in the Falcon’s locker room.

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