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Will the Patriots call the Texans about Garoppolo?

HOUSTON, TX - FEBRUARY 05: Tom Brady #12 of the New England Patriots and Jimmy Garoppolo #10 take the field prior to Super Bowl 51 against the Atlanta Falcons at NRG Stadium on February 5, 2017 in Houston, Texas.  (Photo by Ezra Shaw/Getty Images) Getty Images

As the football-following world tries to figure out what the Patriots will do with quarterback Jimmy Garoppolo, our good friend John McClain of the Houston Chronicle has a theory.

If the Patriots decide to try to trade Garoppolo, they’ll quite possibly call the Texans.

If the Patriots think Garoppolo is destined to become a franchise quarterback, I’m not so sure they will. The Texans have plenty of the pieces in place to become a championship contender. Why would the Patriots want to give them the one thing they’re missing the most?

While not in the same division, the Patriots and Texans will compete for playoff seeding, if the Texans ever become as good as they can be. The smarter move for the Patriots would be to trade Garoppolo out of the conference, ideally to a team that has a long way to go to become the kind of team that the Patriots may encounter in the Super Bowl.

From Houston’s perspective, trading for Garoppolo is a luxury they can’t afford. With $16 million in fully-guaranteed compensation due and owing to Brock Osweiler in 2017, the Texans will have a hard time paying Garoppolo the kind of long-term deal he’d want in order to make the trade something other than a one-year rental followed by a Kirk Cousins-style game of franchise tag.

This entire topic arises from the notion that the Patriots would even be willing to move Garoppolo. They should be willing to move him only if they’ve concluded that, come 2018, he’ll move on as a free agent (or if they secretly think he’s not very good and they’re looking to fleece someone).

If the Patriots can persuade Garoppolo to wait for Tom Brady to retire, it all becomes moot. So when Peter King of TheMMQB.com slides into his latest column a 13-word reference to his belief that Garoppolo won’t be traded, the end result could indeed be that Brady’s final handoff will entail giving his job to Garoppolo.

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  1. MichaelEdits says: Feb 13, 2017 11:31 AM

    They’ve got too much sense to get rid of Garoppolo but not enough sense to get rid of Brady. Imagine how much they could overcharge some desperate and foolish team for the geezer.

    How much time does Brady have left as a starting QB?
    Ten.
    Ten what? Years? Months? Weeks?
    Nine.

  2. pastabelly says: Feb 13, 2017 11:34 AM

    Houston is a quarterback away from competing with the Patriots. Send him where he can do as little harm as possible. That means Chicago #1, SF #2, and Cleveland #3. Houston makes no sense and O’Brien knows how to run an offense that Jimmy G can run. Seriously, NO!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

  3. jjb0811 says: Feb 13, 2017 11:37 AM

    With 2 games to study rather than 7, the Texans most likely won’t fall for that again.

  4. htown1035 says: Feb 13, 2017 11:39 AM

    Why wouldn’t they trade him to the Texans? If the Patriots are so invincible that they can’t be beaten and will go undefeated every year from now until 2035 according to their fanbase and the media then why would they worry about what another team does?

  5. joetoronto says: Feb 13, 2017 11:40 AM

    The problem with the texans is at the top, Bob McNair.

    Nothing will change as long as he’s still around.

  6. 6ball says: Feb 13, 2017 11:42 AM

    .
    Yesterday Miami Dolphins fan, Ben Volin (aka the chipster), wrote in the Boston Globe that the Patriots would be ” fortunate” to get a second round pick for Garappolo and that they should leap at the opportunity to deal him to a conference playoff team.

    Maybe if the Patriots added Gronk to the deal, they could recoup a conditional 7th too?
    .

  7. lusdawg says: Feb 13, 2017 11:45 AM

    They did try to trade Collins in return for Hopkins. Maybe they try for Hopkins again?

  8. TheDPR says: Feb 13, 2017 11:48 AM

    Bears would be ideal for him, IMO, and get him out of the conference. Other than Seattle, the entire NFC West needs QBs, as well.

    That said, I think the Patriots would be smart to keep him. Brady has had incredible injury luck during his career. It can only last so long.

  9. kurdishpats1 says: Feb 13, 2017 11:50 AM

    Prior to Jamie Collins getting dealt to Cleveland, there was talk that NE was offering him to HOU in exchange for DeAndre Hopkins.

    A Goropollo for Hopkins exchange might not be out of the equation.

  10. maust1013 says: Feb 13, 2017 11:51 AM

    “The smarter move for the Patriots would be to trade Garoppolo out of the conference, ideally to a team that has a long way to go to become the kind of team that the Patriots may encounter in the Super Bowl.”

    Like SF for example. Houston is more likely to be calling the Pats than they are to be calling Houston. There probably isn’t enough a team as close to being a serious contender as Houston could give New England that would make The Hoodie pull the trigger on improving the competition that much. The cap impediment of extending Garoppolo for Houston is somewhat overstated. Signing and roster bonuses along with simple incentives can kick the cap impact forward to 2018 when cutting Osweiler would cost $6M but still free up $15M.

  11. Kapodaco says: Feb 13, 2017 11:54 AM

    Hey, guys. Remember what happened the last time the Texans went after the Super Bowl-winning team’s back-up quarterback?

  12. htown1035 says: Feb 13, 2017 11:55 AM

    6ball says:
    Feb 13, 2017 11:42 AM

    .
    Yesterday Miami Dolphins fan, Ben Volin (aka the chipster), wrote in the Boston Globe that the Patriots would be ” fortunate” to get a second round pick for Garappolo and that they should leap at the opportunity to deal him to a conference playoff team.

    Maybe if the Patriots added Gronk to the deal, they could recoup a conditional 7th too?
    ———————————————
    Teams would be absolutely brain-dead to give up anything more than a 2nd for him. He has 2 NFL games, one which he got hurt. All of the previous backups for the Patriots have had less than stellar careers after leaving, regardless of how good they looked in the Pats system. Doesn’t matter how he looked, with precedent it would be a stupid move by any other team to give up too much.

  13. factschecker says: Feb 13, 2017 11:55 AM

    Cleveland, SF and Chicago probably have more to offer than Houston.

    And it may not even be an “outright” trade of a pick? Perhaps they swap draft positions instead? That way a team gets their QB but still also gets to draft in the first round albeit at #32 instead of #1, #2 or #3.

    Since Jimmy G was originally a 2nd round pick the asking price is going to be a lot higher than just a 2nd round pick or we’ll just keep him for ourselves since our starting QB will turn 40 during the 2017 training camp. Using the franchise tag in 2018 on Jimmy G would not be out of the question if Tom decides to (or it’s even possible “god forbid” he has to retire) after next season. The Pats are not trying to give him away. There will be no discount just to unload him.

  14. savethebs says: Feb 13, 2017 12:00 PM

    I get that Jimmy G had a really good game & a half. But why is everyone all of a sudden all over this kid? I’m sure some team is dumb enough to send a 1st round pick to the Pats for him with no real evidence he will turn into anything. But that doesn’t mean they should. And if they don’t, why would the Pats trade him?

  15. harrisonhits2 says: Feb 13, 2017 12:01 PM

    “The smarter move for the Patriots would be to trade Garoppolo out of the conference”

    Or they’ll trade him to the Browns where the worst Oline in the league will get him repeatedly injured. The Browns will never be a threat to anyone with that owner.

  16. dickebyrd says: Feb 13, 2017 12:12 PM

    Did someone really suggest a Jimmy Grapes for Hopkins trade??? HAHAHA You Patsies fans are delusional.

  17. jag1959 says: Feb 13, 2017 12:14 PM

    htown1035 says:
    Feb 13, 2017 11:55 AM

    Teams would be absolutely brain-dead to give up anything more than a 2nd for him.
    ________________

    Garoppolo was originally a second round pick and he’s since had 3 years getting used to a pro style offense. The sample size may be small but he is certainly more pro ready than anyone coming out in the draft. Whatever your anti Patriots stance may be it shouldn’t cloud your judgement about his value. If he is moved the return will be substantial, a mid round 1st and a 3rd or the equivalent in multiple rounds and/or future drafts would not be at all surprising.

  18. raymondtx says: Feb 13, 2017 12:14 PM

    No thank you.

    Signed,
    HTown

  19. stexan says: Feb 13, 2017 12:18 PM

    Houston’s already tried 2 Brady BUs without much success. Then overpaid for a BU that won a SB in Denver – with more experience and tape than this guy.
    Are they really dumb enough to fall for it again?

  20. valentino8100 says: Feb 13, 2017 12:22 PM

    NE can’t trade Garoppolo. He’s proven too capable in their system and even a 1st round pick is certainly no guarantee that a given rookie qb will ever progress his current level. You’d like to think that Brissett is that guy, but it’s too early to tell.

  21. mototax says: Feb 13, 2017 12:23 PM

    The Texans could make a deal with the Pats that included JJ Watt. The Texans’ defense is top notch without him, maybe crazy good with him. BUT… They could get Garoppolo plus picks by trading JJ.

  22. jcbalance says: Feb 13, 2017 12:24 PM

    MichaelEdits says:
    Feb 13, 2017 11:31 AM
    They’ve got too much sense to get rid of Garoppolo but not enough sense to get rid of Brady. Imagine how much they could overcharge some desperate and foolish team for the geezer.

    How much time does Brady have left as a starting QB?
    Ten.
    Ten what? Years? Months? Weeks?
    Nine.

    ————–

    Eight. It’s been eight years of people saying Brady’s downfall is coming.

  23. patfanken says: Feb 13, 2017 12:26 PM

    Some comments on the comments:

    1. The Pats won’t be making any calls about JG; they will be TAKING them.

    2. Any fan who actually watched the 2 games JG played KNOWS that he is far better than any QB you can get in the draft and better than all but Romo among the vets.

    3. It’s just dumb to compare him to past Patriot back ups. Cassell actually had a probowl year in KC didn’t start a game in college and was a 7th round pick. Hoyer was an UDFA, and Mallett came in the 3r or 4th IIRC. And its funny that, although none of them are starters in the league now, they are all still IN the league

    None of them came into the league with the pedigree of JG, who many thought would go in the 1st if he’d played at a big school.

    4. The Pats got lucky to be looking to trade JG in a year where the QB’s available in the draft are more risky than usual. So if you are a team needs a QB if there was one worth taking in the first round (a 50-50 proposition at best) , it would seem to be a no brainer to spend that first rounder on JG, who comes with a higher floor and a high ceiling than what’s currently out there.

    5. So I believe the Pats will get that first rounder plus more. It just too good a value for a team, especially when he’ll cost less than $1MM next year.

    6. The ONLY way the Pats would keep him would be if he agreed to some 2 year extention deal, that would keep him under contract until after 2019. (the end of TB’s current contract) And I don’t think he’ll do that. He wants to play. He deserves to play.

    7. The Bears make the most sense, since he’s from that area and would be worth it just for the excitement he’d bring. They also have a HC on the brink, who can’t wait for any QB to develop. I see 2 possible deals that would work. One is the Bear’s 2nd and 5th round picks this year and a first and 4rd next year. The other is the Bears #3 pick, and a conditional 3rd next year, that drops to a 6th if JG doesn’t play 85% of the snaps.

  24. htown1035 says: Feb 13, 2017 12:26 PM

    jag1959 says:
    Feb 13, 2017 12:14 PM

    htown1035 says:
    Feb 13, 2017 11:55 AM

    Teams would be absolutely brain-dead to give up anything more than a 2nd for him.
    ________________

    Garoppolo was originally a second round pick and he’s since had 3 years getting used to a pro style offense. The sample size may be small but he is certainly more pro ready than anyone coming out in the draft. Whatever your anti Patriots stance may be it shouldn’t cloud your judgement about his value. If he is moved the return will be substantial, a mid round 1st and a 3rd or the equivalent in multiple rounds and/or future drafts would not be at all surprising.
    —————————————-
    Sounds a lot like Ryan Mallett.

  25. ikeclanton says: Feb 13, 2017 12:27 PM

    dickebyrd says:
    Feb 13, 2017 12:12 PM
    Did someone really suggest a Jimmy Grapes for Hopkins trade??? HAHAHA You Patsies fans are delusional.

    This is why some teams can never be winners, this thinking right here.

    You currently have an incredibly incompetent quarterback. It clearly held you back from potentially moving forward. Wide receivers are not nearly as valuable as having a franchise QB for 10 years. Garoppolo has a chance to be that. Not guaranteed of course, but these guys don’t grow on trees, and he looks like the real deal.

  26. amanistumor says: Feb 13, 2017 12:29 PM

    He’s Fool’s Gold.

    Just like almost any backup that has ever had a solid couple games that gets dealt the next year. Flynn, Castle, any Andy Reid backup, etc.

  27. jjackwagon says: Feb 13, 2017 12:33 PM

    Oh yes…because Patriot B/U QBs have all been so successful!

    Seriously, any team stupid enough to trade for a Pats B/U QB deserves what they get.

  28. firedog784 says: Feb 13, 2017 12:36 PM

    >>> The sample size may be small but he is certainly more pro ready than anyone coming out in the draft.<<<

    I absolutely agree with you. Take a look at the first round QB busts over the last 10 years. At the very least he's been on a roster learning behind Brady and that coaching staff for three years. And the number of snaps he's taken though a small sample are better than no pro game snaps that these kids coming out of college have that may be #1 round picks.

    He looked great in those two games he was in and at the age of 25 or whatever he is I would rather trade a #1 round pick on him than to keep it and use it on one of these college kids.

  29. htown1035 says: Feb 13, 2017 12:48 PM

    jag1959 says:
    Feb 13, 2017 12:43 PM

    htown1035 says:
    Feb 13, 2017 12:26 PM

    Sounds a lot like Ryan Mallett.
    __________________

    You just can’t fix stupid. Congrats you’ve earned your sign for today.
    —————————–

    You’re the one who suggested the moronic take in the first place. And yeah, they said the same stuff about Mallett…and Hoyer…and Cassell…

  30. htown1035 says: Feb 13, 2017 12:49 PM

    ikeclanton says:
    Feb 13, 2017 12:27 PM

    dickebyrd says:
    Feb 13, 2017 12:12 PM
    Did someone really suggest a Jimmy Grapes for Hopkins trade??? HAHAHA You Patsies fans are delusional.

    This is why some teams can never be winners, this thinking right here.

    You currently have an incredibly incompetent quarterback. It clearly held you back from potentially moving forward. Wide receivers are not nearly as valuable as having a franchise QB for 10 years. Garoppolo has a chance to be that. Not guaranteed of course, but these guys don’t grow on trees, and he looks like the real deal.
    ——————————————
    And this is why PFT commenters should never become general managers, this thinking right here.

  31. 6ball says: Feb 13, 2017 12:51 PM

    .
    @htown

    “Teams would be absolutely brain-dead to give up anything more than a 2nd for him. He has 2 NFL games, one which he got hurt. All of the previous backups for the Patriots have had less than stellar careers after leaving, regardless of how good they looked in the Pats system. Doesn’t matter how he looked, with precedent it would be a stupid move by any other team to give up too much”

    ——–

    1. Wentz and Goff brought a king’s ransom in trade.

    2. Wentz and Goff took a grand total of zero snaps vs NFL competition. Garopollo has won NFL games and thrown TDs against professional defenses.

    3. Who cares what previous backup QBs did? Steve Young was once a backup in SF. Is Blaine Gabbert another Steve Young?

    4. I’ll let Belichick know that you’ve set the market and he should respond accordingly.

    PS – Brain dead is signing a 72 million dollar QB who couldn’t hit the floor if he fell on it.
    .

  32. nard100 says: Feb 13, 2017 12:52 PM

    Somewhere Scott Pioli is screaming, “Don’t do it! Remember Matt Cassell!” This is one of the reasons why the Pats keep their dynasty going. They throw junk bones out there to teams that feel they are “One player away” and that just because the player knows, “The Patriot W”, they going to be awesome anywhere they go. Never works that way though once they leave the patriots. it will make more sense when someone’s tell-all book exposes all the ways NE cheats because that’s the only real explanation of why players can go from stud to dud going from one team to the next so consistently. ‘Til then, we’ll just have to watch another team (Houston) waste draft picks.

  33. silvernblacksabbath says: Feb 13, 2017 12:55 PM

    They won’t get rid of Jimmy. He’ll be the starter next year after Brady/Pats win #6!!!

    Book it

    Patriots to win 2018 Super Bowl +500 🙂

  34. valentino8100 says: Feb 13, 2017 1:01 PM

    savethebs says:
    Feb 13, 2017 12:00 PM

    I get that Jimmy G had a really good game & a half. But why is everyone all of a sudden all over this kid? I’m sure some team is dumb enough to send a 1st round pick to the Pats for him with no real evidence he will turn into anything.
    ————————————–

    Because it’s arguable that he’d be the first qb taken if he were in this draft. What he has shown in relief of Brady indicates that his first years in the league were well spent, and provides much more evidence toward a successful future in the league than does a rookie whose never set foot on an NFL practice field or taken a single snap in an NFL game. Far too many high draft pick busts at that position with an admitted lack of pro-ready qb’s coming out of the NCAA. You could draft 10 qb’s in the 1st rnd and not end up with someone who progresses to the point Garoppolo has. No way I can see them trading him for that reason alone.

  35. damcmp says: Feb 13, 2017 1:10 PM

    McClain is an Idiot… he started the Mallet crap and look where that got them…. O’Brien is a average coach that has been in some really good situations.. He has done nothing here with about 10 name QBs no counting Savage to work with….

  36. kevinlawrencecantor says: Feb 13, 2017 1:12 PM

    Some of you people are absolutely crazy.

    The Patriots would be lucky to get ONE 3rd Round Pick for JG.

    I’m a Patriots fan, he’s a good player, but people thinking you’re getting multiple picks, including a 2nd rounder, are insane.

  37. patsfan4lifesbchamps says: Feb 13, 2017 1:18 PM

    If Garoppolo was any good, Belichick would not trade him especially when the starting QB is just a few years away from qualifying for AARP membership. Belichick is not stupid people.

  38. redlikethepig says: Feb 13, 2017 1:21 PM

    If Belichick thought he was the next Tom Brady do you think he’d be available for a trade?

  39. htown1035 says: Feb 13, 2017 1:32 PM

    kevinlawrencecantor says:
    Feb 13, 2017 1:12 PM

    Some of you people are absolutely crazy.

    The Patriots would be lucky to get ONE 3rd Round Pick for JG.

    I’m a Patriots fan, he’s a good player, but people thinking you’re getting multiple picks, including a 2nd rounder, are insane.
    ———————————————-

    Wow, one sane one in the whole bunch.

  40. texansfan82 says: Feb 13, 2017 1:38 PM

    As a Texans fan I like the idea of acquiring him and leaving him on his present deal. That will give us time to absorb Osweiler’s hit from next year, and pave the way to sign Jimmy long-term after next season. At worst we will have the luxury of applying the franchise tag for a season while negotiating a long-term deal. After that point if he’s not worth signing to a big contract, you have gotten two years of service out of him and can continue the search.

  41. truths4all says: Feb 13, 2017 1:41 PM

    Silly article.

    The Patriots hold the winning hand with regards to Jimmy G, just as they ended up holding in the SB.

    Patience will produce desperate suitors who may offer up deals far too good to pass up.

    If not, keeping Jimmy G and Jeremy B as the next tandem in the bullpen makes the most sense as drafting for other positions of need can be addressed, unless another unrecognized and overlooked QB talent of the decade comes along.

    Its better to be lucky than really good when you look back at overlooked and undervalued available draftees such as Brady, Warner, David Johnson, Montana, and even Prescott (maybe, keep in mind what happened to Rams’ phenom Gurley).

  42. yahdoood says: Feb 13, 2017 2:19 PM

    Patriots should and likely will squat on him for one more year. And they could / should even consider franchising him for the year after that with a wink that it’s his gig as soon as Brady falls off.

    Brady has a few good years left in him but as we saw with Bledsoe anything can happen, and as much as I love me some Tommy Brady the show must go on. We’ve all seen (cough cough Raiders cough cough) teams completely collapse due to having scrubs and re-treads as backups, Pats can afford to keep Jimmy G hangin’ around. He’ll have the starting gig sooner or later.

  43. sidepull says: Feb 13, 2017 3:37 PM

    This team
    Prolly a QB away from deep playoff contention.

  44. solo681 says: Feb 13, 2017 5:18 PM

    redlikethepig says:
    Feb 13, 2017 1:21 PM

    If Belichick thought he was the next Tom Brady do you think he’d be available for a trade?
    ++++++++++++++

    The “next Tom Brady” does not exist.

    The Coalition of Greatness that made TB is :
    1.) Kraft
    2.) BB
    3.) TB
    4.) McDaniels
    5.) Scarnechia
    6.) all Others

  45. magnumpimustache says: Feb 13, 2017 5:34 PM

    Best option is to Cleveland for their 1st two round picks.

    You’re nothing without a franchise QB.

  46. tagtak2000 says: Feb 14, 2017 8:04 AM

    Houston could make another big blunder….Jimmy G is just not tested in this league. Neither was Osweiler and look at the contract they gave him and look at the results. This is why all the other teams in the league lose to the Pats…they are “starstruck” and don’t think about what is best for their franchise….don’t put your franchise in another bad contract position for another 10 years….

  47. bemylovetractor says: Feb 14, 2017 2:29 PM

    No, the Texans will be calling the Patriots.

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