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The Jimmy Garoppolo reporting, which prompted on Wednesday a mild outbreak of ESPN-on-ESPN crime, continues to overlook the most important factor regarding whether a trade will happen: Whether Garoppolo wants it.

His recent “your guess is good as mine” routine conceals this dynamic, but the reality is that Garoppolo won’t be traded for significant compensation if he refuses to do a long-term deal with his new employer. If he doesn’t want to play for a given team at all, the likelihood that he’ll do a long-term deal decreases to nearly nil.

What team would give up a first-round pick and more for a player who is a season away from the Kirk Cousins franchise-tag square dance? While plenty of teams have shown over the years an ongoing willingness to do dumb things, it would be a new level of dumb to send a large haul of picks for a player who provides no guarantee regarding his ongoing employment.

Then again, there could be a team or two willing to engage in that level of dumb in an effort to find a franchise quarterback. Especially since dumb is one of the reasons some of the teams looking for franchise quarterbacks don’t have one.

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  1. nbptma1 says: Mar 2, 2017 8:53 AM

    Someone’s obsessed with Garoppolo

  2. navyvandal says: Mar 2, 2017 8:56 AM

    I like Bridgett, but I would MUCH RATHER Have Jimmy taking over for Tommy. Fluid passer, shows great poise. If the pats and him can somehow work out an extension where he gets paid good money to be a backup, then big money when Tommy retires, DO IT!

    Tom isn’t stupid, his days are numbered. Us new englanders have had it great and shouldn’t take it for granted. Watching my Sox without Ortiz will be a hard adjustment, but inevitably, Tommy won’t play forever 😞

  3. pastabelly says: Mar 2, 2017 8:56 AM

    If Jimmy G is calling the shots, I suppose Chicago has the inside track. I give up trying to guess, but my last thoughts are that he’ll back up Brady in 2017 be franchised and dealt for a second round pick next year to the team of his choice and Don Yee will work out the deal.

  4. jchipwood says: Mar 2, 2017 8:56 AM

    Desperate coaches do desperate things. I’m sure most of us remember when the Browns coach in the mid 90s was fired then got another shot to be a head coach again. He surely wasn’t going to get fired again so he resorted to cheating.

  5. deneb1973 says: Mar 2, 2017 8:58 AM

    I thoroughly agree with the analysis but think it omits two factors:

    (1) Garoppolo likely has inside knowledge of Brady’s real plans since they are both represented by Don Yee. Hence he probably has a huge advantage in determining his future.

    (2) As crazy as it sounds Belichick might decide to part company with Brady ala Vince Wilfork and Joe Montana. Though such a trade would have enormous risk but Belichick cuts players loose a year too early instead of too late. NE and Brady are working on a contract extension which might facilitate a trade.

  6. stevebowl says: Mar 2, 2017 8:58 AM

    Only the Browns. Trade #1 and #12 plus rights to Gordon for unsigned Goroppolo. Dumb.

  7. The Dangerous Kitchen says: Mar 2, 2017 8:59 AM

    It really turns on whether they truly think JG is a viable replacement for Brady. If he is then they are not going to part with something so hard to find for any amount. If they are willing to trade him even if for a ton that reveals they are less sure (even if only a little less) which should warn teams off that high price, a catch 22. Also there is the fact that the Pats spent a second rounder just to get him and have invested 3 years of development. So they have to get a first rounder for him (or maybe a huge block of second/thirds over thne next few years?) to not lose out on their investment. This means he has to be expensive even with that doubt that now shows. Then of course there is the issue this article raises. I see that as adding up to a disparity between the Pats getting their ROI and what the most a team should risk to get him. This disoarity came about because of Brady’s crazy unexpected longevity. This was never a decision that was supposed to be neccesary. And its complicated also by the fact that no one knows if Brady will go a few more years or the drop off is imminent. If it was anyone else I would be saying imminent, but Brady is tough to call this one on since he is already a freak.

  8. ibillwt says: Mar 2, 2017 9:00 AM

    Mike Lombardi broke down all the Pats options better than anyone on the Rich Eisen show recently. There’s certainly no rush.

    The more I hear Lombardi, the more I realize how superficial and uninformed most football media commentary is (Florio excluded of course).

  9. dabears2485 says: Mar 2, 2017 9:02 AM

    Speculation is great and all, but it could just be as simple as no one offered what the Patriots feel he’s worth. If Osweiller “wasn’t worth” the contract the Texans gave him with 6 starts, then how much is Garappolo worth with 2? A first round pick did s largely unproven product is a lot.

  10. exinsidetrader says: Mar 2, 2017 9:03 AM

    The consideration in accepting a trade is will he make more waiting for Free Agency than the two years of a renegotiated contract above his current pay scale (which would be over $20MIL that he could pocket by a trade to say nothing of more playing time).

    If he wants to start and make more money, he welcomes a trade. If he wants to let someone else do all the work as he collects the Rings he stays.

  11. factschecker says: Mar 2, 2017 9:05 AM

    If a QB has the mentality “I can’t succeed in X town.” or “I can’t only succeed in Y town.” then they are not ready to be a starting QB at that point in time of their career.

  12. streetyson says: Mar 2, 2017 9:06 AM

    At least commenters (like me and some others) haven’t overlooked it! And if I’m Belichick, would I prefer the uncertainty of a 1st-round pick or the certainty of a quality backup to a 40yr-old QB over the coming season? If Brady lasts beyond that, JacobyB will be another year into Belichick’s program if JimmyG is itching to start somewhere – and Belichick could do a late season trade or in 2018 offer a minimum qualifying tender contract that would still net a future pick.

  13. infectorman says: Mar 2, 2017 9:07 AM

    If he’s that good, which still remains to be see, then the Pats should keep him.
    As good as Brady is, he will not beat father time. We’d be one play away from starting Jacoby Brissett.

    The thing is, Garoppalo has played a a grand total of barely anything in the NFL. He’s completed a 63 passes on 94 attempts and taken 8 sacks, that last of which basically put him down for the year.
    No one knows what he really is yet, and if teams want to go all -in on him, then they’d have to bowl NE over to make the deal happen

  14. rea725 says: Mar 2, 2017 9:14 AM

    “Especially since dumb is one of the reasons some of the teams looking for franchise quarterbacks don’t have one.”

    Talkin’ about my Browns right there. Carr? nah. Let’s wreck this league.

  15. kenberthiaume says: Mar 2, 2017 9:16 AM

    If a team offers him a contract with big money, he’ll take it. Better than sitting on a bench for another 4 years.

  16. thecape15 says: Mar 2, 2017 9:17 AM

    I wish him well if he goes.

    And I hope he goes to a good organization.

  17. superpatriotsfan says: Mar 2, 2017 9:17 AM

    “Garoppolo trade reporting overlooks most important issue”….that the Patriots cheating in many ways?

  18. Chris Guest says: Mar 2, 2017 9:18 AM

    Teams aren’t going to trade a 1st round pick (and more) for a guy that they can get on the open market next year and only costs them a contract. What if he is BO as in Brock Osweiler…you just traded a 1st rounder and then have to go use another first rounder on another QB and you still have Jimmy on the team with his deal.

  19. steelerdeathstar says: Mar 2, 2017 9:24 AM

    It seems any team that is contemplating a trade for Jimmy G would do their due diligence with regard to his desire to do a long-term contract. However, even if that weren’t the case, a given team’s ability to franchise tag him, giving them time to work out a long-term deal, would likely override any contractual concerns they might have.
    If his prospective new team likes him that much, odds are they’re going to spend pretty much whatever they have to, in order keep him. Though having a long-term deal in place beforehand would be optimum. A Kirk Cousins-type merry go round is rare with NFL starting QB’s.

  20. oswizard says: Mar 2, 2017 9:24 AM

    Kirk Cousins would be the number 1 pick of this draft. If you don’t think there will be a push by multiple teams to get his services if he become available via trade, you are underestimating multiple teams desire to get their man now instead of waiting a year. Not only does it give multiple teams a chance to sell themselves to him, it shows a lazy attitude toward wanting him. Not that the Bears (the team he grew up loving), or the Browns or the Jets could do ANYTHING that could sway him from the Niners.

  21. 6ball says: Mar 2, 2017 9:29 AM

    .
    Another issue might be Garopollo’s personal career plan. Pro QBs have usually been ” the man” since grade school. Jimmy patiently paid his dues as Brady’s understudy, but after his quality performances last season, he has to believe that he can be a starting quarterback in the league. I would think that he wants a solid opportunity to play.

    Don’t underestimate the significance of Don Yee representing both Brady and Garopollo. Yee and the Patriots have had a symbiotic relationship for over a decade. There’s no reason for all parties not to lay their cards face up and work towards the best possible outcome for all involved.
    .

  22. ricko1112 says: Mar 2, 2017 9:29 AM

    NE could keep him this year, franchise him next year, then work out a deal with another team. They could do the same this year before trading him.

    The issue is that dumb teams do dumb things. There’s talk about teams wanting Glennon, Cutler, Krapernick, etc. That’s why bad teams stay bad.

  23. Mize says: Mar 2, 2017 9:29 AM

    Isn’t the opposite true?

    I think most would prefer the “Kirk Cousins franchise-tag square dance” to backing up a brink’s truck for the next Brock Osweiler.

    At least in a franchise tag situation you have three years covered. If you are winning enough that you still want him, sign away and break the bank.

  24. nbptma1 says: Mar 2, 2017 9:30 AM

    With all due respect, ESPN has been known to report fake news about the Patriots.

    Quoting them or referencing them cannot be considered a ‘reliable’ or ‘truthful’ source.

  25. kabasaman says: Mar 2, 2017 9:30 AM

    I don’t believe the reports that he is not available . If Bill hears the right deal, he’s gone. The rumor is that they like Jacoby Brisset ever bit as much as Jimmy G.

  26. elyasm says: Mar 2, 2017 9:35 AM

    It’s a valid point, but both Chandler Jones and Jamie Collins were traded in the same situation last year.

  27. rageviral says: Mar 2, 2017 9:39 AM

    Franchise tag a player who is unproven and only plays in the pre season and a handful of regular season games? OK then. He must be good because he backs up Brady B.S.

  28. itsfootballbaby says: Mar 2, 2017 9:46 AM

    Why is it assumed that Jimmy is a “franchise QB”?

  29. cgooch11 says: Mar 2, 2017 9:46 AM

    That’s deep.

  30. 12coltsfan12 says: Mar 2, 2017 9:47 AM

    It is not dumb to give up a boat load if he is ‘that guy’. You have a year under a rookie contract where he would be dramatically underpaid and likely willing to sign a long term deal at ‘reasonable’ starter money.

    If you think he is going to be a pro bowl level QB, he is more valuable than any draft pick.

  31. intrafinesse says: Mar 2, 2017 9:48 AM

    Of course, Jimmy would sign a long term deal because he doesn’t have a large body of work. He might turn out to be another Matt Cassell. Better to take in millions like Brock Osweiller, and leave a couple MM/year on the table than to “bet on yourself” and forgo tens of millions.

  32. tylawspick6 says: Mar 2, 2017 9:58 AM

    Anyone believing BB would leak out something so definitive 2 months before a logical trade would be made, is seriously a moron.

    Even the idea of them saying “the team does not trust Brissett right now” is complete garbage.

    If that was true, they would have forced Jimmy to play vs Buffalo and not pulled him back during warm ups before the game.

    This is a classic plant job by BB to drive price.

    Jimmy is gone.

    Someone will come in and give a strong bid and he’s gone.

    BB does not keep 3 QBs. Brissett was drafted specifically to get a year under his belt for this very purpose.

  33. pau49ers says: Mar 2, 2017 10:02 AM

    The Browns and 49ers won’t give up their top pick for him and he won’t be traded to Buffalo or the Jets. It’s the bears, Jags or someone using a second rounder on him. BB is never transparent, he will definitely trade him. No way you get nothing for him when his stock is high.

  34. jag1959 says: Mar 2, 2017 10:08 AM

    navyvandal says:
    Mar 2, 2017 8:56 AM
    I like Bridgett…
    ________________

    Who is this ‘Bridgett’ you speak of?

  35. pau49ers says: Mar 2, 2017 10:13 AM

    kenberthiaume says:
    Mar 2, 2017 9:16 AM
    If a team offers him a contract with big money, he’ll take it. Better than sitting on a bench for another 4 years.
    ——————————————————————
    Under what scenario does he sit on the bench for the next 4 years? He is an unrestricted free agent after this next season. Do you think NE will give him 20 mill per year to be Tom Brady’s backup? Someone else will give him big money after this season if he comes back to NE. He will be traded at the draft.

  36. marty2020 says: Mar 2, 2017 10:13 AM

    I disagree with the analysis. He’s got one more year on his contract, then he can be franchised twice more, so that’s up to 3 years that his new team can have to work out a deal, IF they like what they see in year 1.

    I’m not sure I’d throw a huge contract at the guy at this stage. I’d want him to prove it first. If I was a GM, I wouldn’t want to Osweiler my team.

  37. zenoracledba says: Mar 2, 2017 10:14 AM

    I’m confused by this article. Does Jimmy G have the power to not accept the Franchise tender ? Its really very simple for any team that trades for Jimmy G.

    They pick him up this year, they play him He is under contract. If he plays well, and he doesn’t want to sign a new contract with that tem, they franchise him.

    What Am I missing ?

    If fact, given what happened with Brock Osweiler, a very similar situation with regards to playing sample size, it would be a bad idea to sign Jimmy G to a long term deal. The better play is to get him, play him, and then deal with the tag or negotiate a deal.

  38. daddeeo says: Mar 2, 2017 10:16 AM

    Two Games is a pretty slim resume. Granted he did well during those games.

    NE is prolly better keeping him as he knows the system. Tom’s clock is ticking unfortunately.

    Then again Parcells himself brought Brisset to BB so maybe there is more there than we know.

    If a trade does come up, and JG DENIES the trade, that will be an indicator that Tom has made a private announcement of his retirement date.

  39. ocgunslinger says: Mar 2, 2017 10:17 AM

    Garopollo is years ahead of any potential draft QB. He did show the ability to read a defense and has a quick release. He has studied under questionably the best QB in history. I’d say he is worth a lot more than a draft pick who might be a Manzel or a RJIII.

  40. tylawspick6 says: Mar 2, 2017 10:22 AM

    Two Games is a pretty slim resume. Granted he did well during those games.

    NE is prolly better keeping him as he knows the system. Tom’s clock is ticking unfortunately.

    Then again Parcells himself brought Brisset to BB so maybe there is more there than we know.

    If a trade does come up, and JG DENIES the trade, that will be an indicator that Tom has made a private announcement of his retirement date.

    ———-

    Umm, isn’t 3 preseasons, coached by BB/Brady and 2 games better than absolutely jack squat for Watson or Trubisky?

    Just how dumb do you want to be here?

    The guy was a 2nd rd pick and lit it up at Eastern Ill.

    He has short arms and a super quick and accurate release. Great maturity, football IQ, leadership, a humble attitude, some good mobility etc.

    What more would you want??!!

    I mean, listen to yourself. Jimmy hasn’t peaked yet, but Watson likely has.

  41. midnightcusk says: Mar 2, 2017 10:23 AM

    I’m sure Yee is sniffing around for a trade deal with the Pats’ blessing, and youbcn be sure that he and Jimmy have had in-depth discussions as to which team Goroppolo would must like to go.

    Why would you rather do: trade a first round pick for a QB who has studied under Brady and has had actual success against actual NFL players (albeit in limited action), or use the pick to draft an unproven prospect in a crappy year for QBs? Seems pretty obvious.

  42. lgw91s says: Mar 2, 2017 10:29 AM

    superpatriotsfan says:
    Mar 2, 2017 9:17 AM
    “Garoppolo trade reporting overlooks most important issue”….that the Patriots cheating in many ways?
    ——————

    Its comments like these that embarrass the haters – just for a remote affiliation.

  43. harrisonhits2 says: Mar 2, 2017 10:35 AM

    “If a QB has the mentality “I can’t succeed in X town.” or “I can’t only succeed in Y town.” then they are not ready to be a starting QB at that point in time of their career.”

    You’re ignoring the reasons as to why they might feel they couldn’t be successful somewhere.

    For example I don’t believe ANY QB can be successful in Cleveland unless they fix their Oline in a big way. That line gave up a whopping 138 QB hits and 68 sacks last year, worst in the league by far. No QB is going to stay healthy or be successful there until the Oline is fixed. Has nothing to do with whether a QB is “ready or not”

  44. chippys lost binky says: Mar 2, 2017 10:38 AM

    jchipwood says:
    Mar 2, 2017 8:56 AM
    Desperate coaches do desperate things…
    ++++++++++++++++++++++

    …like flood fields before playoff games against a faster opponent.

  45. campcouch says: Mar 2, 2017 10:56 AM

    Since the Brady era began, every QB who wandered away from New England has returned to form as a backup. Their system creates success and Brady excels in it. Don’t anoint this gentleman without seeing how he performs outside the Patriot way.

  46. bigcid10 says: Mar 2, 2017 10:58 AM

    I’m not turning off my add blocker

  47. alreidtx says: Mar 2, 2017 11:02 AM

    Buyer Beware! In the same way that Osweiler was a product of the system in Denver, the same should be said of Garoppolo. While he fits into NE system… And is blessed with coaching that quickly adapts the offense to the QB’s strengths, you don’t have to look any further than the Texans to see the potential train wreck of a weak offensive system and a rookie QB. O’Brien better hope the Texans sign the likes of a Romo or Rivers if he plans on coaching there beyond 2017.

  48. gregfalco15 says: Mar 2, 2017 11:09 AM

    People keep forgetting that Garoppolo’s at peak value right now, whatever that value is. A year from now, the two games he started this season will be a distant memory after another full season where he probably won’t even be featured at all because if he’s as good as gone or if his relationship with the Patriots turns dour due to trades that fell through because of him, the Patriots will use Brissett instead in mop up duty since Jacoby will be at least the backup of the near future.

    Even if Jimmy isn’t smart enough to realize this, his agent definitely is and I doubt they’d gamble against these odds.

  49. factschecker says: Mar 2, 2017 11:13 AM

    For example I don’t believe ANY QB can be successful in Cleveland unless they fix their Oline in a big way. That line gave up a whopping 138 QB hits and 68 sacks last year, worst in the league by far. No QB is going to stay healthy or be successful there until the Oline is fixed. Has nothing to do with whether a QB is “ready or not”
    ———
    The reason Jimmy may disagree with you is QB play has a direct impact on O-line performance. He may very well feel that his quick release would allow him to succeed behind any o-line. That type of no excuse attitude should be exactly what teams are looking for in a franchise QB.

    A good portion of the 138 hits and 68 sacks are actually because the QB didn’t properly read the defense and set the correct protection. Another portion of those hits and sacks are due to not making quick enough decisions.

  50. maestro1899 says: Mar 2, 2017 11:13 AM

    “While plenty of teams have shown over the years an ongoing willingness to do dumb things…”

    LOL, always making friends here!

  51. superpatriotsfan says: Mar 2, 2017 11:16 AM

    Lol Pats homers thinking Jimmy G is another HOFer QB. Looks like reality is going to really sting the Pats homers after Brady retires.

  52. TheWizard says: Mar 2, 2017 11:18 AM

    Something else overlooked – is Jimmy willing to be paid comfortably, but not break the bank? If he wants to be the highest paid, he’s gone. The opposite, he may be a Patriots quarterback for a decade if it works out.

    He’s not Cassel. I watched Cassel’s whole 08 season. He started out shaky but by the end of the year was a pretty decent quarterback. Jimmy started out looking like Cassel ended.

    Also, Reiss said when Brady took days off at the end of the year, Garoppolo ran the offense ‘seamlessly’.

  53. Flash1287 says: Mar 2, 2017 11:21 AM

    jchipwood says:
    Mar 2, 2017 8:56 AM
    Desperate coaches do desperate things. I’m sure most of us remember when the Browns coach in the mid 90s was fired then got another shot to be a head coach again. He surely wasn’t going to get fired again so he resorted to cheating.

    Poor poor little Chippy…

  54. harshedmellow says: Mar 2, 2017 11:29 AM

    Ok, so you are literally contending for a title every year- which takes a TEAM- and your HOF quarterback is 40 years old and you’ve got what appears to be a plug-and-play replacement for him already on the team? In a league where there’s a severe SHORTAGE of those guys?

    So they’re gonna trade him. Got it.

  55. LyinRogerMustGo says: Mar 2, 2017 11:32 AM

    This QB draft class reeks. That alone boosts Garoppolo’s value compared to other years.

    They get a third round comp pick anyway should keep him and then move on. So the price must be a lot higher than that. If ya want him… pay up.

    🙂

  56. jchipwood says: Mar 2, 2017 11:33 AM

    chippys lost binky says:
    Mar 2, 2017 10:38 AM
    jchipwood says:
    Mar 2, 2017 8:56 AM
    Desperate coaches do desperate things…
    ++++++++++++++++++++++

    …like flood fields before playoff games against a faster opponent.
    * * * * *
    That’s strategy……… two teams playing on the same field, same surface, and same conditions. Schula did nothing except told the ground crew not to tarp the field before a game being played OUTSIDE. I guess it’s his fault they had to play in the rain too. Now its ridiculous I have to explain it like I’m explaining it to a 3rd grader but I imagine that’s how you receive a lot of your information.

  57. joseferreira1967 says: Mar 2, 2017 11:38 AM

    As a Pats fan I’m already tired of this story so I can imagine fans of other teams.

    Garapollo has played less than 3 games as a starter. He got hurt on a play where he should have just thrown the ball away isntead of taking that hit. For all purposes he’s, in terms of experience, a rookie…that has had great teachers for sure but greatness doesnt’t rub off.

    Does he have potential? Yes he does…but certainly more for the Patriots than anyone else.

    Why would the Browns give up their 12th pick for him is beyond me.

    So let it go…please!!!

  58. breadmeatcheese says: Mar 2, 2017 11:38 AM

    doy. a first rounder has always been a pipe dream, and so was more than one pick.

    soon to be FA players always have all of the leverage by simply playing the extension card.

    NE likely has decided keeping him for insurance this year, and the last few years was more valuable than trading him, and they were right.

    hope he signs with the illinois team next year considering he went to college at eastern illinois.

    go bears, the rebuild is nearly complete!

  59. weepingjebus says: Mar 2, 2017 11:44 AM

    I like how the fact that other Patriots QBs have struggled on other teams is spun as a criticism of the Patriots instead of those bad teams. The finest general in the world will still lose battles if his army is a bunch of varsity jacket wearing goofballs.

  60. maust1013 says: Mar 2, 2017 11:48 AM

    jchipwood says:
    Mar 2, 2017 11:33 AM

    …like flood fields before playoff games against a faster opponent.
    * * * * *
    That’s strategy……… two teams playing on the same field, same surface, and same conditions. Schula did nothing except told the ground crew not to tarp the field
    =========================

    Hysterical, almost as funny as when you you insisted Dirty Don had nothing to do with the contract he signed with Miami. As you said about spygate, if there was no advantage then why do it?

  61. carloswlassiter says: Mar 2, 2017 11:52 AM

    I reserve judgement on any situation until I hear what Chipwood has to say.

    That guy is a sage – like prior to every Dolphin-NE game in the last few years when he has correctly predicted that “Suh will break Brady in half”.

    Oh wait, he was totally wrong about everything. Nevermind.

  62. nomar8477 says: Mar 2, 2017 12:05 PM

    he will back up next year..go to free agency..and the pats will get a comp 3rd or 4th round pick. im certain that will happen

  63. bkostela says: Mar 2, 2017 12:16 PM

    Suppose in 2008, a team traded the Packers a first and second round pick for Aaron Rodgers. You would have called them dumb back then. What would you call them today?

  64. tylawspick6 says: Mar 2, 2017 12:18 PM

    I reserve judgement on any situation until I hear what Chipwood has to say.

    That guy is a sage – like prior to every Dolphin-NE game in the last few years when he has correctly predicted that “Suh will break Brady in half”.

    Oh wait, he was totally wrong about everything. Nevermind.

    —————

    Pats Haters being so wrong all the time must drive them insane, don’t you think?

    If Freud was alive today, he’d coin their mental illness “PatsHateritis”.

    I have never seen anything like this in over 35 years of watching and following pro sports.

    Even Sox fans were nowhere near this insane when being jealous of the Yanks back in the 1970s or late 1990s.

    Nowhere near it.

  65. bkostela says: Mar 2, 2017 12:24 PM

    nomar8477 says:
    Mar 2, 2017 12:05 PM
    he will back up next year..go to free agency..and the pats will get a comp 3rd or 4th round pick. im certain that will happen
    _______

    Why would the Pats want a comp 3rd or 4th in 2019 if they could get a 1st or 2nd now?

  66. goodellisruiningtheleague says: Mar 2, 2017 12:24 PM

    Can’t imagine Garoppolo wants to spend his whole career sitting on the bench behind Brady

  67. maust1013 says: Mar 2, 2017 12:29 PM

    tylawspick6 says:
    Mar 2, 2017 12:18 PM

    Haters being so wrong all the time must drive them insane, don’t you think?

    If Freud was alive today, he’d coin their mental illness “PatsHateritis”
    ====================

    I believe Freud would find the already in use term of patsanoia acceptable and call it’s acute manifestations chipwoodian.

  68. patsfan4lifesbchamps says: Mar 2, 2017 12:32 PM

    If Belichick believes in Garoppolo, he will not deal Garoppolo. He will deal Brady instead because that is what makes the sense for the Patriots long term. You don’t pass up potential 10 to 15 years of stability at QB for 3 to 4 more years with Brady.

  69. blessedunliketherest says: Mar 2, 2017 12:37 PM

    Lol Pats homers thinking Jimmy G is another HOFer QB. Looks like reality is going to really sting the Pats homers after Brady retires.
    __________________________________________

    Its bad when you are someone who posts tons of articles on a sports site showing you have no life. Its worse when you make up a screen name pretending to be a fan of a certain team.

    A small part of me wishes the Pats would give someone else a chance to win so all these whining fans of other teams would just go away. Or at least be able to back up their trash talk.

  70. edavidberg says: Mar 2, 2017 12:47 PM

    The bottom line is that nobody knows what is going to happen. All sides are just posturing. There are reasons to believe that teams would and should hesitate from offering a first round pick for Garappolo considering he will have to be signed to a long term and expensive deal. However, there are reasons why the Pats may prefer to keep Garoppolo for another year as a cheap backup if all they are getting is a second round pick. And lastly, the NFL has seen a ton of teams fall in love with players and give up way too much to acquire them. They usually stink for about 5 or 10 years.

  71. maust1013 says: Mar 2, 2017 12:54 PM

    carloswlassiter says:
    Mar 2, 2017 11:52 AM
    I reserve judgement on any situation until I hear what Chipwood has to say.

    That guy is a sage – like prior to every Dolphin-NE game in the last few years when he has correctly predicted that “Suh will break Brady in half”.

    Oh wait, he was totally wrong about everything. Nevermind.
    ====================

    Yeah, dude kills it. We should do a chipsters greatest hits review. I can’t decide between these 2, so help me out. Thumbs up for:
    jchipwood says:
    Sep 27, 2016 6:44 AM
    Patriots probably won’t win another game all year.
    (they only won 14 more)

    Down for:
    jchipwood says:
    Nov 10, 2016 7:54 PM
    Tonight the Browns will shut down the ravens weak run game and get pressure on Flacco. They will run on the Ravens. Book it.
    (Cle ran for 33 yds, Balt ran for over 100 yds & Flacco threw 3 td’s)

  72. infectorman says: Mar 2, 2017 12:55 PM

    jchipwood says

    says:
    Mar 2, 2017 11:33 AM
    chippys lost binky says:
    Mar 2, 2017 10:38 AM
    jchipwood says:
    Mar 2, 2017 8:56 AM
    Desperate coaches do desperate things…
    ++++++++++++++++++++++

    …like flood fields before playoff games against a faster opponent.
    * * * * *
    That’s strategy……… two teams playing on the same field, same surface, and same conditions. Schula did nothing except told the ground crew not to tarp the field before a game being played OUTSIDE. I guess it’s his fault they had to play in the rain too. Now its ridiculous I have to explain it like I’m explaining it to a 3rd grader but I imagine that’s how you receive a lot of your information.

    ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^

    I love the use of the word “strategy” here. Chippy, ever the optimist. What Shula did is called Cheating. It’s cheating because the NFL rule was broken , intentionally to gain a competitive advantage. The rule for the AFCCG was for the host team to “cover the field” before the game to prevent exactly what happened. Do some research you sorry Shula shill.
    Shula = the Original Cheat Master hack who couldn’t win a single SB with one the best QB’s ever in the NFL.
    #HACK
    #shula*

  73. firecracker87 says: Mar 2, 2017 1:14 PM

    Something I have not seen any comments on. Is it not historic and amazing that a team can have such a talented depth chart at QB all the way to 3rd string? I mean essentially they have 3 starters. That’s just crazy!

  74. wib22 says: Mar 2, 2017 1:16 PM

    Chippy is obsessed with the pats. Sad!

  75. ill42 says: Mar 2, 2017 1:20 PM

    Prediction: Jimmy G to the Bears for picks 36 and 111

  76. brettsmyboi says: Mar 2, 2017 1:21 PM

    Everyone is over thinking this from the standpoint of whether he is/isn’t a franchise QB.
    Teams draft rookies with no NFL experience to be the next “Franchise QB” teams will evaluate Jimmy G compared to the draft class if they like him more then the draft class why wouldn’t he be worth a 1st round pick someone is gonna spend one on Mitch Turbisky even though he has one year of good college tape. At least Jimmy G has played in the NFL. You can trade for him and in waiting to discover whether or not he’s they guy realistically you have up to 3 years to make that evaluation based on having one year left on his deal and worst case scenario you tag him the following 2 years.

  77. shiftyshellshocked says: Mar 2, 2017 1:25 PM

    You guys went nuts when Spielman traded a first for Sam Bradford. Name one of these rookies coming out this year that you wouldn’t give up for a quarterback like Sam? Tough accurate and poised in the pocket. No brainer.

  78. bullcharger says: Mar 2, 2017 2:40 PM

    Garoppolo should get money now if he can. Sign a new deal with the new team while he is worth so much. If he doesn’t play a snap in 2017 except maybe in garbage time his FA value will go way down. It could be worse if he does start and has a bad game.

    He can’t do anything if BB isn’t going to trade him, but he shouldn’t be turning down a chance to be a starter and be set for life financially.

  79. fishyinalittledishy says: Mar 2, 2017 2:52 PM

    The genius behind the Patriots is BB and the way they can slot in key positions and still perform to an elite level. They are all system players that are interchangeable. Even when Brady’s missing they don’t miss a beat. When he was out for the season they finished 11 & 5 and nearly got into the playoffs and this was Matt Cassell, and look how good he was after he left. Would even Brady be as effective away from New England. I beleive he knows the answer to that. I can’t believe these days another team will fall for another BB mirage. If you can’t see that you don’t know football.

  80. razzlejag says: Mar 2, 2017 3:15 PM

    Cleveland will cave and BB knows it. They see JG as the face of the franchise- he’s also drop dead good looking and they see him as their poster boy for years.
    BB is sitting back, feet on desk, filing his nails and waiting for the phone to ring. He will get the 12th overall plus next year’s 3 and then will deal the 12th for a couple 2’s and a couple of 4’s.

  81. phinatic29 says: Mar 2, 2017 3:23 PM

    i wouldn’t give more than a 4th in 2017 and a conditional 5th in 2018 provided he starts more than 50% of the games.

  82. jjackwagon says: Mar 2, 2017 3:39 PM

    I am sure JG will go on to great success as all Brady’s backups have do….nevermind.

  83. footballmaven says: Mar 2, 2017 3:53 PM

    If a team offered BB two first rounders for Brady, wonder if he’d take that deal ?..

  84. tedmurph says: Mar 2, 2017 4:12 PM

    If the dolphins could get Garoppolo, it would probably solve their Tannehill problem. But they can’t. They’re stuck tryng to make chicken salad out of…I wonder if dishy could hold a clinic for those of us that don’t know FB. Maybe a video?

  85. pittsburghdamned says: Mar 2, 2017 4:34 PM

    Pats are rebuilding. They keep him

  86. mark0226 says: Mar 2, 2017 10:21 PM

    Name one former Patriots QB who has had success as a starter after moving teams.

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