Bills reportedly leaning toward cutting Tyrod Taylor

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Like the Jimmy Garoppolo trade market, reports are all over the place regarding the Bills’ plans for quarterback Tyrod Taylor. Most recently, Vic Carucci of the Buffalo News said that the sense emerging at the Scouting Combine is that the Bills will move on.

That may be a final decision, or it may be the next step in getting there. Ultimately, the decision should be made not by the Bills but by Taylor, if the Bills would be interested in keeping him at a reduced rate.

Here’s how it should happen (regardless of whether it will). The Bills should make their best offer to Taylor on a revised deal that pays less than $27.5 million fully guaranteed in 2017 with another $3 million of his 2018 salary fully guaranteed. Then, Taylor’s agent should gauge the market by finding out what other teams would pay Taylor if he’s available.

Would it be tampering for teams to respond? Yes. Does Taylor need to know what’s behind Door No. 2 before he rejects Buffalo’s Door No. 1 offer? Absolutely.

Although Taylor reportedly won’t accept a pay cut, if the Bills will offer him as much or more than anyone else to remain the starter, he should at least consider it. Ultimately, the Bills may be willing to pay Taylor far more than anyone else would.

There’s a chance that Buffalo could enter the bidding after the cord is cut and Taylor becomes a free agent. It seems to make more sense for everyone to work these details out in advance — especially with all teams and agents currently in Indianapolis for the annual effort to work out contracts and other contingencies regarding player acquisitions.

79 responses to “Bills reportedly leaning toward cutting Tyrod Taylor

  1. I wonder how much of this talk is based on his ability, or lack thereof to get Watkins the ball…. He’s been effective otherwise.

  2. Unfortunately our Buffalo News reporters of which Mr Carucci is one, are prone like many these days to making up stories and using personal speculation as fodder for their articles….

  3. I think this guy is pretty decent. I dont think he is a “franchise QB”, but he would make an excellent stop gap to pass on a weak QB draft class. After 2017, he could be cut or demoted to back up…or if he develops into a true starter than you probably got him for a decent contract. As Fried Toast pointed out above–SF and their new QB Whisperer coach could do a lot for this guy.

    Failing all this, you have a backup QB that is pretty darn good and has experience as a starter.

  4. You can do worse than Tyrod Taylor at QB. Anyways I think the Bills are hot for Watson, we’ll see if he falls to them.

  5. Go ahead and let him walk. Can’t go wrong this year. High quality quarter backs are available in either free agency or trade. Or there’s the draft, sure fire franchise starters in all rounds. That’s the problem with the nfl . Too many good qb’s. Not enough teams.

  6. I am on the fence about this one .. hes not worth 31 million but I dont want Trevor Simian or Brian Hoyer or Jay Cutler starting for the Bills.

  7. Doug Whaley really dropped the ball giving Taylor a contract like that.

    He should be fired ASAP if not sooner, but he won’t be.

    Oh, Buffalo.

  8. It’s a desperate for quarterbacks league…he might end up with a 3 year $45 million contract if he’s cut.

    He’s a huge upgrade for Cleveland, the Jets(but they seem to be starting over so I doubt he ends up there), and Houston. SF doesn’t have a QB on its roster.

  9. Bills would be stupid to not figure out a way to get a realistic deal dont with Tyrod. He isn’t the greatest but he is better than anything else out there. They need to get him some healthier WR to throw too. I love Watkins but he is injured way to often and with Watkins out the Bills are competing with Philly on who has the worst WR class.

    -Philly Fan

  10. No one is paying TT $27.5 guaranteed next season, not even the Bills.

    His choices are
    1) take a pay cut and stay with the Bills.
    2) get cut and take his chances.

    Either way he is not making $27.5 for the 2017 season. If he gets cut he will be lucky to make that over the next three seasons. He just hasn’t shown he is worth more than about $10 mil per.

  11. I think TT is a QB that runs a fairly dynamic offense and doesn’t turn the ball over. That has value in the NFL. The Bills will not be better off without him IMO. I hope he leaves them to play in the NFC.

  12. joetoronto says:
    Mar 3, 2017 11:26 AM
    Doug Whaley really dropped the ball giving Taylor a contract like that.

    He should be fired ASAP if not sooner, but he won’t be.

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    As usual the #TragicallyCanadian who knows nothing about football and should stick to Curling the true Canadian sport….That contract would make Taylor the 18th highest paid QB in the league……

  13. A guy who wins exactly 50% of his games and throws for 300 yards in exactly 2% of his starts and everyone is acting like moving on will sink the Bills.

    He is a wonderful choice for a backup quarterback but you dont pay guys who cant get you to the Super Bowl that much money.

    He specializes in the deep ball and keeping plays alive with his feet. Cant throw down the seam to save his life.

  14. The current contract is interesting.

    Currently it represents the 17th ranked dollar average per season for a QB. This ranking will certainly go down by the end of the contract.

    Currently the CAP hit for the contract in 2017 represents the 20th ranked number for a QB for the upcoming season. The yearly CAP number will be similar for the length of the contract.

    The issue is all about the cash for 2017. It represents the #1 amount for a QB in 2017 (this may change if someone breaks the bank but will be one of the highest numbers this season). In future seasons the cash number will be remarkably low and a bargain for Buffalo.

    Buffalo doesn’t want to part with cash which is fairly unusual because most teams are more concerned with managing the cap. We always hear of “CAP casualties” being cut from teams but in this case he will be a “Cash casualty”. The contract is really quite friendly for the team in the sense that QB’s get paid bigbucks anyway and they can’t cheap out season after season and expect to improve. The contract doesn’t preclude them from operating the team in a responsible way concerning the CAP. They are just too cheap to pay the guy.

  15. By all accounts the contract was a “prove it” type contract. It wasn’t a prove you are elite QB, it was a prove you are average QB according to the dollar figures. In those types of contracts the team ponies up the most dollars after proof is given (second year of the deal rather than the first). In this case TT more than proved he is average and maybe slightly better than average.

  16. I hope they do cut him. He deserves better than this train-wreck of a team ownership and can hopefully be picked up by a team that actually knows what it wants.

    The Bills have been on the cusp of the playoffs, and now seem determined to rebuild for no good reason. If Washington wasn’t dropping the ball even harder with Cousins, the way the Bills are tripping themselves up would be getting more notice.

  17. .

    Well, first off, Joetoronto, the contract looked good at the time. Still looks pretty good, considering they can cut him and not owe him a dime. Had he developed into a true starting QB, then it would have been a pretty great deal. Now, Unclebuck, is Tyrod the 18th best QB in the league? Uh, no, not by a long shot. He’s bottom tier at best. He may have these “intangibles” that people keep spitballing at him, but be realistic. Are you going to pay a guy top-20 money to average 233 ypg? That’s total, not just passing numbers. His passing numbers hover just above 200. On top of that, there were 7 games where he failed to break 200 yards passing. Michael Vick had better numbers and arguably a worse pass catching core. The dudes not worth the money. I’m not saying he won’t be a Bill, but looks like he’s gunna have to get his feet wet before he dives into any pile ‘o cash.

  18. all of you who think this guys sucks.. did you watch a single game this year? Was his whole WR corp available? or was he missing his #1 wideout for most of the year and trying to prop up a TERRIBLE defense?

  19. It’s funny that people keep saying that Taylor isn’t worth $31 million. This isn’t a contract for 1 year $31 million. This payment is a part of a 5 year $90 million contract Taylor signed last year. Most QBs receive their big bonuses up front as a signing bonus and this protects them from getting cut since the bonuses count against the cap for years to come plus any other guarantees in the contract. Which is another reason why Osweiller will be with Houston this upcoming season despite stinking like 5 day old collard greens……he got his bonus money up front because he had leverage at the time of signing. The Bills came to Taylor and offered him a contract that looked like a 5 year $90 million contract on paper but really was a 1 year $8 million contract if they don’t pick up his roster bonus this year……which is actually a pretty smart thing they did.

    They had Taylor under a lower contract last year and wanted to give him a contract that reflected his value as a starting QB but since they weren’t sure he was actual starting material and since they had the leverage of paying him like a back up Taylor signed a seemingly huge deal which the team could walk away from….

    I personally think that $18 million per year is average for an NFL QB not on a rookie salary. The salary for a starting Franchise level star QB is likely $25-30 million per year now and I don’t think the Bills are going to find a solid veteran starting QB for less than $18 million per year.

  20. If the jills (specifically, Whaley) weren’t stupid enough to offer that outrageous contract in the first place they wouldn’t be having to make a decision like this now. Oh well, I guess being the team with the longest playoff drought doesn’t just happen on the field, huh?

  21. whyamiacowboysfanagain says:
    Mar 3, 2017 10:52 AM

    I wonder how much of this talk is based on his ability, or lack thereof to get Watkins the ball…. He’s been effective otherwise.

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    You can’t throw to someone who isn’t on the field. I would like to see a year of Tyrod and a healthy Watkins…

  22. averagejoe5050 says:

    Problem is he doesn’t win.
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    Eh, he’s 14-14 on a 14-14 team. With a 92.3 career quarterback rating you could do worse.

  23. oswizard says:
    And a new team enters the Kirk Cousins for two first round pick sweepstakes.

    For starters, Kirk Cousins received the exclusive franchise tag from Washington, meaning he’s ineligible to negotiate with other teams, who will therefore not have the option of signing him to an offer sheet and sending two first-round picks to the ‘Skins.
    Second, while Washington is eligible to negotiate a trade on its own, NOBODY is giving up two No. 1s for Cousins.

  24. averagejoe5050 says:

    Problem is he doesn’t win.
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    This is such a tired excuse. There is more to a winning football team than the QB. Teams with bad QB’s have won and teams with good QB’s have lost. Saying a QB is not worth keeping because he doesn’t win or because the team doesn’t make the playoffs is bogus. This is a team game, it’s not golf.

  25. If he refuses to take a pay cut he will be gone. No team is stupid enough to pick up THAT contract on THAT guy. He’ll get a real dose of reality when he sees how small the market really is for his talents and what they are willing to pay him.

  26. No difference between between 7-9 with Taylor and 5-11 without him. I like the guy, but he is not the answer in my opinion, so why let him linger? I believe he can succeed in the league, just not on a team with an awful defense and the Patriots in the same division.

  27. No contract for TT looks or looked good. The goal for every team is to win the Superbowl. TT will never win a Superbowl unless the Bills D rivals the all time bests.

    Move on, easily replaceable and even if you don’t get better while trying you already know TT is at or very near his ceiling.

  28. It’s not so much that Taylor doesn’t deserve a starting job. It’s just that this particular contract is ridiculous. Bills have to cut him and then somebody else will grab him and be happy.
    Assuming that they don’t replicate Buffalo’s mistake.

  29. This is such a tired excuse. There is more to a winning football team than the QB. Teams with bad QB’s have won and teams with good QB’s have lost. Saying a QB is not worth keeping because he doesn’t win or because the team doesn’t make the playoffs is bogus. This is a team game, it’s not golf.
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    Hmmm, 28th ranked defense, your top running back had 700 yards and D Jackson as your number 1 wideout? Redskins were above 500 with Cousins. It’s a team game, but QB is so important.

    Buffalo’s had more tools than a lot of other bad teams last year.

  30. Wow, look at all the comments. You would think the topic was something to do with the Patriots. The only time any Bills’ item got this kind of response was when Rex spouted off something stupid.

  31. Hmmm, 28th ranked defense, your top running back had 700 yards and D Jackson as your number 1 wideout? Redskins were above 500 with Cousins. It’s a team game, but QB is so important.
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    Not a Redskins fan, not sure where you got that idea from.

    So what about the Saints, Chargers, Colts, you’re saying those teams should move on from Brees, Rivers and Luck?

    Or what about the Broncos during their SB run, Manning/Osweiler were some of the best QB’s that year?

    How do you explain the Panthers collapse last season? If the QB was an MVP and so good then why was the team so bad?

    This is a team game, not a QB game. Good QB’s can be on bad teams and bad QB’s can be on good teams. W/L should not be the barometer on how we judge QB’s.

  32. Agree with others that Taylor is not the answer, but it would have been smart on the Bills part to ride Taylor straight to his eventual replacement (Upgrade), but it appears they have buyers remorse on that contract so they seem to be willing to downgrade for the time being with hopes of landing that elusive franchise QB down the road. Problem is that never comes as soon as teams thought it would.

  33. So what about the Saints, Chargers, Colts, you’re saying those teams should move on from Brees, Rivers and Luck?
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    NO is aweful on the defensive side but they can still beat anyone with Breese. Yes, SD should move on from Rivers. Just because Luck was the first pick, that doesn’t male him great – he wasn’t great this year and the Colts didn’t make the playoffs.

    Or what about the Broncos during their SB run, Manning/Osweiler were some of the best QB’s that year?
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    Yes, Manning played in the Superbowl – do you think he sucks? Who are you comparing him too? He could still run an offense as good as anyone. That question is a joke.

    How do you explain the Panthers collapse last season? If the QB was an MVP and so good then why was the team so bad?
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    It’s one year, but they put too much on him. Cam Newton didn’t play well and he said “our failure this year was my fault” .

    This is a team game, not a QB game. Good QB’s can be on bad teams and bad QB’s can be on good teams. W/L should not be the barometer on how we judge QB’s.
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    With Tyrod Taylor the Falcons, GB, Seattle, Steelers, Chiefs, Lions, and Raiders wouldn’t have made the playoffs last year.

    What else do you have about the un-importance of the QB possition?

  34. I think this guy is pretty decent. I dont think he is a “franchise QB”, but he would make an excellent stop gap to pass on a weak QB draft class.
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    Not at $27 million. But “pretty decent” does describe him. However, like RGIII , one shot to the legs and it’s see ya 🙂

  35. Even with sports writers (or insiders) “everybody’s got their opinion”. It’s all about Clicks….
    Pretty obvious nobody knows bc 3 reports out today. One says they keep him, one says he’s gone and the other says the front office and coaching staff are so far apart there’s been no decision.
    What I do know is if Russ Brandon is involved (which also WAS reported) the Bills are doomed.
    Talk to me in a week….

  36. abninf says:
    Mar 3, 2017 1:06 PM
    averagejoe5050 says:

    Problem is he doesn’t win.
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    Eh, he’s 14-14 on a 14-14 team. With a 92.3 career quarterback rating you could do worse.

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    14-14 is kind of deceptive. Yes, the Bills had a banged up receiver corps last year, but they still had some capable receivers. He was horrendous in the 4th qtr when they were tied or down by a TD. He couldn’t hit Sammy Watkins when he needed him. He either can’t or won’t throw over the middle of the field, wasting a valuable weapon in tight end in Charles Clay. His tendency is to look at one receiver and then run. I don’t believe he can read a defense. All of which takes him out of consideration as an elite QB. I say cut him, sign an experienced QB and draft someone in the 3rd or 4th round to develop for a couple of years. Personally I like Chad Kelly, but there are others. I’m really sick of the running QB that can’t read defenses in the NFL. And , Yes, I think Tom Brady would have had this team in the playoffs with these receivers.

  37. Yes, Manning played in the Superbowl – do you think he sucks? Who are you comparing him too? He could still run an offense as good as anyone. That question is a joke.
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    9 TD’s and 17 int’s, couldn’t throw the ball more than 40 yards downfield…. Broncos questioned bringing him back because of Brock Osweiler…..yes, Manning “sucked” his last season in the NFL. They won because the defense shut down the MVP of the league.

    With Tyrod Taylor the Falcons, GB, Seattle, Steelers, Chiefs, Lions, and Raiders wouldn’t have made the playoffs last year.

    Taylor is not as good as Ryan, Rogers, Big Ben, Stafford or Carr, but he probably could have made the playoffs with KC, and Seattle would have won the SB and made the playoffs with Taylor at QB, that team is good because of the defense. If you actually watched the games you would know that the defense runs that team. Go look at Wilson’s record when the defense is not playing “elite”, 3-16.

    Buffalo did not have a good team, guys were injured and the coaching was bad. That team would have been much worse without Taylor and wouldn’t have won any more games with Wilson or Newton playing QB.

    Your the kind of guy who claims QB’s like Brad Johnson and Trent Dilfer are better than Dan Marino and Jim Kelly.

  38. The info in this article is misleading. The guaranteed 27 million is basically for a two year deal that averages out to mediocre starting QB money. If the Bills move forward with this deal they’re financially committing to TT for two years…and it’s a reasonable deal for two years of service. If the Bills let him walk, he’ll probably easily do as well or better finding another job paying him as the 20th best QB in the league, which is where that 2 year commitment the Bills are looking at slots him.

    The problem with all this is, well, Tyrod is somewhere around the 20th best QB in the league. Maybe 5 slots higher if we’re feeling generous. Considering the team has a number of holes to fill, limited cap space, and a tough schedule next year, they’re probably looking at another .500 record if they’re lucky. Tyrod is the kind of guy they could have used the last couple years when the roster was in a better shape to compete, if not for the crappy job Wrecks did with the underachieving defense. This team will probably need a QB that can carry them on his back to win games…and Tyrod hasn’t shown to be that guy. This season should be about finding their next franchise QB and either getting really lucky with a rookie or Cardale, or being bad enough that they’re in position to draft a guy next year instead of going all out to try and win 7 or 8 games again.

  39. I think this contract is brilliant for the Bills. They get a decent evaluation period at a very affordable cost as most of it is late year roster bonus’s most likely.

    Why would Tyrod Taylor ever sign this type of contract knowing it is a “prove it” deal.

  40. “buffalosunshine says:
    Mar 3, 2017 12:27 PM
    all of you who think this guys sucks.. did you watch a single game this year? Was his whole WR corp available? or was he missing his #1 wideout for most of the year and trying to prop up a TERRIBLE defense?”
    FYI, I tape every game because I look back to see what went right and what went wrong in each game. That means nitwit I do know he is not a good QB. He is “Fool’s Gold” like you, the Fooled. There are many fails he has in the position. I will list a few for you. He can not see the whole field. He rarely throws over the middle which makes Clay seem bad to the dumb. Clay is a good TE who get’s very few passes thrown his way by Tyrod. He rarely goes to a second option on pass plays. He runs way too quick. He has no poise in the pocket. As soon as he thinks there’s pressure he tucks tail and runs. He is timid at the position. He never ever throws in tight circles, hence his timidity. That line about the WR’s hurt is also dumb. Every game there were WR’s and Clay open sometimes WIDE open, yet he either never looked or just plain ignored them. The Ravens game showed how bad he truly is. The very 1st drive. Remember that one? 2 consecutive obvious runs for a total of 4 yards which brought up 3rd and 6. What does he do? He throws the 1st of many dump off passes to Lesean. Lesean was double covered? He caught the pass anyway. The pass was low and at his knees?? The completion was for 4 measly yards making it 4th down and a Punt?? Meanwhile Sammy was open, waving his arms and screaming for the ball. No look, no pass. That was bad enough but there was worse. Robert Woods was WIDE open 30 yards up field!! The nearest defender was 13 yards away!! 13 Yards, let that sink in. He just is not good period. This kind of thing happened a lot all year long. He is exciting true but a QB not hardly.

  41. Tyrod Taylor is an average starting QB. His cap hit is that of an average starting QB. The real question is is it better to keep an average starting QB at an average starting QB cap hit or is it better to start over, save the cap space (important for a team like buffalo in their situation), and hope to find a long term answer while understanding it’s very possible that they do much worse at QB for a few years and everyone is fired.

    I don’t know which is a better option, but his contract is not this way out of whack deal that everyone thinks it is. If he hits free agency with teams like the 49ers and Browns out there with loads of cap space, he will get even more than he is from Buffalo.

  42. I think the Bills are dragging their feet on this decision because they could be looking for a trade partner. Tyrod could bring them another 2nd round pick which would allow them to draft Patrick Mahomes in the first round at #10 and then have two selections in the 2nd to grab a WR and safety or OT.

  43. Dude stinks. Anyone advocating for him will realize that soon enough. He just cannot read thru progressions. It’s look for bomb, tuck and run. Then someone tells him to use his safety valve. So he dumps it to a smothered RB for an 8 yard loss.

  44. As always, the top clown from Toronto has the IQ of a bag of rocks, not to mention he doesn’t have an NFL team and never will. He should try and help out the Canadian economy and get a job for once in his life.

  45. I don’t know why this guy is even in the league. Just goes to show you why so many coaches and GMs keep getting fired. If you actually watch this guy play QB, and then make him an offer, you’ll be unemployed soon.

  46. I do not think folks are taking a close enough look at TT’s contract. The 27.5 million folks are talking about IS guaranteed money, but it is for two years, not for one. So if the Bills exercise his option he is guaranteed 27.5, but that is over the 2017 AND 2018 seasons. So the Bills get a starting QB at less than 14 million per season with a cap hit about 1 million over that. Yes, if they cut him next year they still owe him around 14 million in guaranteed money.

    The purpose of the contract was to see if TT either flopped or excelled. He was in the middle and thus the dilemma for the Bills. If he was a total flop in 2016 the Bills cut him with little cap hit. If he excelled they get him under a very cap friendly contract for a starting QB.

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