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Bill Polian claims Colts had a first-round grade on Tom Brady

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Bill Polian already has made it to the Pro Football Hall of Fame. But maybe there’s an unknown higher level of the Hall into which he’s trying to nudge his bust.

Regardless, B.P. has instantly qualified for a spot in the B.S. Hall of Fame by suggesting that, 17 years ago, the Colts had a first-round grade on quarterback Tom Brady.

Asked by Sports Illustrated to name the quarterbacks he would have drafted if Peyton Manning weren’t on the roster, Polian had this to say after mentioning Ben Roethlisberger and Aaron Rodgers, via USA Today: “Tom Brady would have been a guy, and we were very high on him. Our guys really loved him, but we weren’t in the quarterback market, obviously. Those would be the guys I remember us giving solid, first-round, can-lead-you-to-a-championship grades.”

And so a guy who belongs to a very exclusive club of football achievement has instantly become a member of a far bigger group: Those who claim they knew Tom Brady was going to become Tom Brady.

Frankly, Polian is either lying or admitting to a moment of gross incompetence. The fact that the Colts had Manning, the first pick in 1998, didn’t preclude them from drafting a quarterback in 2000 at or before the Patriots got Brady at pick No. 199. In 2004, for example, Polian drafted quarterback Jim Sorgi with selection No. 193.

If Polian truly had a first-round grade on Brady, Polian should have drafted Brady. Not in the early rounds, obviously. By the time round four rolls around, however, who in their right mind would pass on a player with a first-round grade — unless the player picked instead also had a first-round grade?

For the Colts, it’s possibly that defensive tackle Josh Williams (No. 122 in round four) had a first-round grade, but he sure didn’t play like it. Ditto for guard Matt Johnson (No. 138 in round five), who never even appeared in a regular-season game.

Any time a player with a first-round grade slides, you take him. And if he ends up being better than the guy you currently have at the position, you play him or you trade him for more than you got him for.

Indeed, look at what the Patriots have done at the quarterback position during Brady’s career. They took Rohan Davey in round four of the 2002 draft, Kliff Kingsbury in round six a year later, Matt Cassel in round seven in 2005, Kevin O’Connell in round three three years later, Zac Robinson in round seven in 2010, Ryan Mallett in round three the following year, Jimmy Garoppolo in round two in 2014, and Jacoby Brissett in round three a year ago.

That’s eight quarterbacks drafted since 2002, despite the presence of Brady. And when Brady was drafted, the Patriots supposedly had a franchise quarterback in Drew Bledsoe.

Bottom line? If Polian truly believed that Brady was going to be a great player, Polian should have taken him at some point before the Patriots (a division rival at the time) got him with pick No. 199.

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104 Responses to “Bill Polian claims Colts had a first-round grade on Tom Brady”
  1. davebarnes21 says: Mar 7, 2017 12:10 PM

    his insecurity complex about Belichick is GINORMOUS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

  2. QB Film Room says: Mar 7, 2017 12:12 PM

    How Peyton Co-Existed with you for all those years really is remarkable. Bill you are annoying more often than not

  3. One For The D**k #Six says: Mar 7, 2017 12:15 PM

    The patriots have said they had a higher grade on Brady than 6th round, but they were in salary cap jail and just signed Bledsoe to a huge deal. So an was the last position they needed. But when he was still available they couldn’t pass on him again. And the rest is history.

    The truth is that every other team in football had Brady as an unstaffed free agent type player. If Polian knew then what he now claims he knew then, he would have drafted Brady in the 3rd round. He’s lying through his teeth. But I’d expect nothing less. He also acts like Manning was his unquestioned number 1 choice. Which is also bull. They went back and forth on Manning or Leaf for months before making what was ultimately the right choice. He deserves credit for choosing right, but there are very few people that exceed Polian when it comes to being disengenuous.

  4. dlw492 says: Mar 7, 2017 12:15 PM

    Yeah- okay… couldn’t do anything with the Buffalo Bills, and Peyton Manning just happens to fall in your lap… Peyton Manning even had to tell you “draft me or I will kick your @$$ for the next decade”

  5. juice08 says: Mar 7, 2017 12:16 PM

    Can we make Bill Polian go away?

  6. straightfactshomie says: Mar 7, 2017 12:16 PM

    Insufferable doesn’t even begin to describe Polian. Just go away you bitter old man and keep the GOATs name out of your mouth.

  7. touchdownroddywhite says: Mar 7, 2017 12:16 PM

    HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA!!

    Ok I’m do.. HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA.

    Alright, glad that’s over.

  8. fartsmella says: Mar 7, 2017 12:17 PM

    This just in… Generalissimo Francisco Franco backs up Polians claim.

  9. superpatsfan5 says: Mar 7, 2017 12:17 PM

    Pats won. Don’t care. He lost.

  10. chuckshontaspads says: Mar 7, 2017 12:18 PM

    A serial liar just like his good friend and partner Roger Goodell. These two perennially conspired to change league rules to favor his team and hurt New England.

  11. dickwittman says: Mar 7, 2017 12:19 PM

    Po-“lian”. Or at least admitting stupidity. Clearly Bizarro these days with his recent comments.

  12. huskersrock1 says: Mar 7, 2017 12:20 PM

    If this were true then why didn’t he draft him in the 5th round and trade Manning for 3 first round picks.

  13. patfanken says: Mar 7, 2017 12:20 PM

    Now I’m starting to worry about getting older. Are these kinds of delusional statements what I have to look forward to as I age?

    Pollian’s struggles against the Pats are legendary, and for the most part failures. What he needs to do is either shut up or adjust his medication.

    He has some major accomplishments during his career in the NFL. It’s a shame to see him lose that credibility over comments like the one’s he’s recently made about Brady.

  14. patsxsaintsfan says: Mar 7, 2017 12:20 PM

    Polian is the worst person on ESPN by far. Yesterday during the scouting combine while discussing mike Williams from Clemson he said he is no Marvin Harrison just to show off the fact that he was able to draft a HOF WR. Polian didn’t have a first round grade on Brady, no one did otherwise polian or 31 other GMS would have drafted him in the first 5 rounds. You got your gold jacket already you don’t have to lie about who you wanted to draft.

  15. puckskin says: Mar 7, 2017 12:20 PM

    What a windbag. He makes this claim, but couldn’t get a legit back up behind Manning all those years. If you think a guy is first round talent floating around in the 4, 5, and sixth rounds, you take him! No question. No matter what position, it’s called taking the best player on the board.

  16. username5891 says: Mar 7, 2017 12:21 PM

    This hurts Bill Polian’s case because drafting Brady may have led to more championships with the Colts.

  17. dietrich43 says: Mar 7, 2017 12:21 PM

    Bill Polian is unbelievable, for many reasons. Can’t stand the guy, and he needs to go away.

  18. ruffbufffire says: Mar 7, 2017 12:21 PM

    Alternative fact!

  19. wigsplitta says: Mar 7, 2017 12:21 PM

    BAHAHAHHAHAHA!!!! He has said this on multiple occasions. Dude won one championship with how many hall of famers over x number of years? I mean the list is incredible. He drafted good talent but had no eye for WINNERS. You are in the HOF Bill just relax you got lucky enough to be there. I find it pretty incredible he was inducted after 1 championship.

    I get the argument for what he did with the Jags/Bills. But Peyton fell into your lap! He also over exaggerates that as well saying Leaf was a VERY close second. Gimme a break! 1 FREAKING championship!!!! LOL SMH. Shut up and go back to the world wide leader. Oh, I hope you aren’t going to be part of their purge of on air talent!!

  20. tylawspick6 says: Mar 7, 2017 12:22 PM

    LOL!!!

    This guy is as bad a liar as Goodell.

    My goodness.

    Make it stop!

  21. TB12#BLITZFOR6 says: Mar 7, 2017 12:23 PM

    Polians full of crap…..and so if everyone else or he wouldn’t have been taken in the 6th round…………

  22. weepingjebus says: Mar 7, 2017 12:25 PM

    The lies the Colts tell. Also, they didn’t Suck for Luck, and appropriately had him as a fifth round grade.

  23. sod61 says: Mar 7, 2017 12:25 PM

    Yeah and i predicted nc state would win the national championship in 1983 before thst season started. Lol.

  24. dynastyfootballforme says: Mar 7, 2017 12:26 PM

    Success has many fathers, but failure is an orphan.

  25. Bob says: Mar 7, 2017 12:26 PM

    “Yeah- okay… couldn’t do anything with the Buffalo Bills”

    Don’t be stupid. The Bills went to four consecutive Super Bowls with him as GM. That is a good accomplishment even if they didn’t win one. Buffalo hadn’t won anything since the ’60s before Polian got there and hasn’t won anything since 1999.

    Back on topic, if Polian was telling the truth about Brady, he would have drafted him in the later rounds just to make sure no one else got him or at least to have an asset for a future trade. That’s why you draft the best available player if all else is equal.

  26. omegalh says: Mar 7, 2017 12:26 PM

    Polian is a genius…in hindsight.

  27. irishking says: Mar 7, 2017 12:27 PM

    what a stretch by Polian.

  28. Bob says: Mar 7, 2017 12:27 PM

    “Buffalo hadn’t won anything since the ’60s before Polian got there and hasn’t won anything since 1999”

    Correction: Bills had playoff berths in ’74 and ’80/81 but didn’t get past divisional round. Point stands.

  29. fjw2 says: Mar 7, 2017 12:29 PM

    Hey Polian… your pants are on fire.

  30. pfttrollss says: Mar 7, 2017 12:33 PM

    Alternate fact.

  31. redsea1111 says: Mar 7, 2017 12:33 PM

    This guy simply has to be overseeing the tweets coming from the White House.

  32. patsfan4lifesbchamps says: Mar 7, 2017 12:34 PM

    Liar liar pants on fire. Brady was an average backup QB on a championship roster at Michigan. No way that warrants a first round draft grade. Having said that, I don’t think Brady should have fallen to 199th pick. Many teams screwed up.

  33. scw1993 says: Mar 7, 2017 12:35 PM

    Another charter member of the liar’s club, along with Goodell, Grigson, Kensil, 31 jealous owners, and “I don’t know a thing about any deflated balls” Pagano.

  34. The Dangerous Kitchen says: Mar 7, 2017 12:36 PM

    They should put up a banner for that.

  35. navyvandal says: Mar 7, 2017 12:36 PM

    Yeah i bet they had a “1st round grade.” Look, im a diehard pats fan but MAYBE 2nd-3rd round would make sense. Pennington was the consensus top QB in 2000, then Chris Redman.

    How in the hell tommy went after Giovanni Carmazzi, Spurgeon Wynn, Tee Martin, and Bulger baffles me.

    Then again, Mark Messier went in the 3rd round. As much as Kiper is a clown, he was spot on with his assessment. The bad 40 time, the average build, not a cannon like Drew/Peyton/A-Rod.

    But, thanks anyways Polian. Good to know you understand talent, and when you’re losing to have rules changed to help you out. Which is funny because Belichick DESTROYED the colts when he talked to willie at the combine the other day. Especially, the rule change.

  36. imodan says: Mar 7, 2017 12:37 PM

    I’m sorry. Couldn’t hear Polian over the loudspeakers. What did he say again??

  37. zenoracledba says: Mar 7, 2017 12:37 PM

    Polian did a wonderful job as GM in Buffalo & Indy, lets give him that. But his comments on Brady simply hold no water.

    If he really had a 1st round grade on Brady, he couldn’t possibly pass on him in round 5, unless he had 2 awesome backup qbs…which he didn’t.

    And I was an owner, and watched a GM not take a player in round 5 that they had graded as a 1st rounder, I would fire that GM the very next day.

  38. shurmanblog says: Mar 7, 2017 12:38 PM

    Next he’s going to claim he told Lincoln not to go to Ford’s theater the night he was shot .

  39. connfyoozed says: Mar 7, 2017 12:41 PM

    Oddly enough, I had an “unhireable” grade on Bill Polian, yet somehow he made the Hall of Fame. I guess you never know.

  40. blah773 says: Mar 7, 2017 12:43 PM

    clown

  41. tonebones says: Mar 7, 2017 12:44 PM

    I don’t think a retired GM should be held to a higher standard than our president. Poor Brady. He ends up in the middle of all this stuff.

  42. thewanderer says: Mar 7, 2017 12:45 PM

    Polian continues to lose credibility almost daily.

  43. lionsfan54 says: Mar 7, 2017 12:45 PM

    why are we still listening to him?

  44. joe6606 says: Mar 7, 2017 12:45 PM

    poor analysis.

    If you have a HOF QB on your roster, you would never waste even a low round pick on Brady. He would never get 1st team reps or have been able to do anything to develop the skills that led him to become “Tom Brady” rotting the bench behind Manning. What trade value would you have ever gotten from a QB who arguably stunk in college, who has the body of a highschooler, and who would have had to experience other than playing mop up in training camp?

    The argument of the Pats drafting other QBs is bogus. None of those guys were drafted to be his replacement or even to provide reasonable competition. They were all training camp arms or drafted to be backups.

    of all the teams that passed on him, Indy is the only one who reasonably passed for legitimate football reasons

  45. terripet says: Mar 7, 2017 12:45 PM

    Polian best Gm of all time all the teams he went to were winners

  46. Insomniac says: Mar 7, 2017 12:47 PM

    No need to call BS. They had Sorgi as a 1st round grade and future All Pro.

  47. pastabelly says: Mar 7, 2017 12:47 PM

    Polian belongs in the Hall of Fame of self promoters. I’m surprised he didn’t take credit for telling Dick Rehbein about the potential of Tom Brady.

  48. backuppunter says: Mar 7, 2017 12:48 PM

    My guess is one lowly scout that nobody listened to was saying Brady was a first rounder and now Bill Polian is trying to take credit for it 17 years later.

    That’s the secret to success folks publicaly take credit for things that went right and successfully blame others for things that went wrong.

    Presidents

    CEOs

    Every human being on earth… some of us are just better at it than others

  49. tajuara says: Mar 7, 2017 12:48 PM

    Seriously Bill, the only reason you are in the hall of fame is because the coin flip was heads and then you drafted Manning, had the coin flip came up tails you were going to draft Leaf. Go away please Bill.

  50. somehomer says: Mar 7, 2017 12:48 PM

    Also picked Dewey over Truman, Ali over Liston and trump over Clinton.
    See ya in Vegas Bill !

  51. TheWizard says: Mar 7, 2017 12:51 PM

    Give it five more years. The story then will be that they were lobbying to pick Brady in round one but Irsay wouldn’t let them.

  52. d0naldjtrump says: Mar 7, 2017 12:54 PM

    A Once Great Man reduced to a ranting bag of wind Revising History One Half Forgotten Memory at a Time – SAD!

  53. fatguygolfleague says: Mar 7, 2017 12:54 PM

    Bill, where do you think the stock market will be in 2008? I trust your judgement. I wouldn’t want to lose 50% of my money. Thanks.

  54. streetyson says: Mar 7, 2017 12:55 PM

    Polian is the biggest fraud in GM and HoF history: Peyton Manning literally fell into his lap as the very first pick the year they had it and needed a QB, and then after many mostly unsuccessful wasted years with that great talent (despite moving the team from what was a tough AFCE to a cupcake AFCS as it was in those days), he orchestrates the Suck4Luck campaign and falls on his sword – fired for his “failure” but actually with a big retirement payoff and huge thanks from Irsay.

  55. bradspace says: Mar 7, 2017 12:56 PM

    Bill Polian has become an absolute a$$clown. First his stance on TO (believe me, it hurts to type that) and now this. Go. Away. Please.

  56. mikespillane337 says: Mar 7, 2017 12:56 PM

    Well,to be honest,I personally know someone that was around Brady in first grade and even remembered the grades he got.

  57. mogogo1 says: Mar 7, 2017 12:57 PM

    Because even at Round 5 the Colts had better options than making the pick their own board had as the absolute steal of the draft? In the quarterback market or not they’d have taken Brady if anything Polian is claiming is true.

  58. megnailsit says: Mar 7, 2017 12:59 PM

    Please let this shameless fraud be in the next wave of ESPN layoffs, Surprised he didn’t use character issues as an excuse for not taking Brady.

  59. bradygirl12 says: Mar 7, 2017 1:02 PM

    I never believe a word out of any Indianapolis Clown’s mouth. Please don’t even say Brady’s name.

  60. myopinionisrighterthanyours says: Mar 7, 2017 1:05 PM

    Those who claim they knew Tom Brady was going to become Tom Brady.

    You mean Tom Freakin Brady.

  61. mullman76 says: Mar 7, 2017 1:07 PM

    This guy must subscribe to the Drumph technique of media relations.

    Just lie your ass off and hope nobody notices.

    Carry on, lemmings.

    Go RAIDERS

  62. kesher10 says: Mar 7, 2017 1:08 PM

    Even as a Colts fan, I’m not a huge Polian fan. That said, you can have a first round grade on someone without thinking that he will go on to be arguably the best player at his position in the history of the game.

    Would TB have become TB if he was drafted by Indy?
    Peyton didn’t miss a game in his career until 2011 so he wouldn’t have gotten the chance due to injury. Also, Indy won like 12 games per year on average those years so PM would never have been replaced for performance by an unknown Brady.

    Also, would Brady even be Brady if he was taken in the first round by anyone and didn’t have that “198 people were drafted before me” chip on his shoulder? He’s absolutely great but I think that has fueled him to play at the next level his whole career.

    Lastly, would TB have become TB if he wasn’t coached by BB? That combination is among the most dominant duo in the history of team sports. Would TB have reached the level he has with Jim Mora or Tony Dungy? I tend to doubt it.

    Just my .02. Fully expecting the down votes due to Colts fandom. ; )

  63. psousa1 says: Mar 7, 2017 1:09 PM

    He has to come to grips w/this whole Belichick/Patriots inferiority complex.

  64. matt14gg says: Mar 7, 2017 1:10 PM

    This is an old story…Polian is doing his typical smartest guy in the room routine.

  65. brwmstr says: Mar 7, 2017 1:20 PM

    what a jacka$$…really

  66. 6ball says: Mar 7, 2017 1:20 PM

    .
    Would you give a first round grade to this guy?

    Tom Brady Positives: Good height to see the field. Very poised and composed. Smart and alert. Can read coverages. Good accuracy and touch. Produces in big spots and in big games. Has some Brian Griese in him and is a gamer. Generally plays within himself. Team leader.

    Negatives: Poor build. Very skinny and narrow. Ended the ’99 season weighing 195 pounds and still looks like a rail at 211. Looks a little frail and lacks great physical stature and strength. Can get pushed down more easily than you’d like. Lacks mobility and ability to avoid the rush. Lacks a really strong arm. Can’t drive the ball down the field and does not throw a really tight spiral. System-type player who can get exposed if he must ad-lib and do things on his own.

    Summary: Is not what you’re looking for in terms of physical stature, strength, arm strength and mobility, but he has the intangibles and production and showed great Griese-like improvement as a senior. Could make it in the right system but will not be for everyone.

    .

  67. popcherrycoke says: Mar 7, 2017 1:21 PM

    LOLOLOL

    This is dude is such a CLOWN.

  68. orrnumberfour says: Mar 7, 2017 1:22 PM

    They should put up a banner for that.
    __________

    Hahaha. Perfect.

  69. mcneezy22 says: Mar 7, 2017 1:23 PM

    this senile idiot is peddling fake news

  70. wib22 says: Mar 7, 2017 1:25 PM

    He’s going senile, just like double dealing don.

    Though it’s to be expected as he’s a disciple of his former owner who is a pill popping idiot.

  71. orrnumberfour says: Mar 7, 2017 1:29 PM

    Lastly, would TB have become TB if he wasn’t coached by BB? That combination is among the most dominant duo in the history of team sports. Would TB have reached the level he has with Jim Mora or Tony Dungy? I tend to doubt it.

    Just my .02. Fully expecting the down votes due to Colts fandom. ; )
    ______________

    I didn’t down vote you. But I will correct you. TB and BB are not “among the most dominant duo in the history of team sports”, they are THE most dominant duo. What other duo has done what they have accomplished over a 17 year period in a league designed to promote parity and a new winner every year? (Falling short in the SB is also a praiseworthy accomplishment, just like a Silver Medal.)

    BTW, they aint done yet. You know, and I know, that we’ve never seen the likes of success like this before, and neither we, nor our children will see the likes of it again.

  72. wib22 says: Mar 7, 2017 1:37 PM

    How long until chippy and his sock puppet accounts claim the brady’s overrated and a system QB?

  73. maniacwithaknife says: Mar 7, 2017 1:38 PM

    Off topic, but Polian, like Cris Carter, uses the Hall of Fame as a means to justify his worth to the game. The Hall of Fame is a joke. Since when do the archaic opinions of a couple dozen dinosaur sports writers mean anything?

  74. jmull23 says: Mar 7, 2017 1:39 PM

    The more he talks, the clearer it is that he has no business in the HOF.

  75. dsigrey says: Mar 7, 2017 1:46 PM

    Sure he did…

  76. floriosnuts says: Mar 7, 2017 1:47 PM

    Let’s hope that Polian is on the list of on-air ‘talent’ the world wide leader will make walk the plank over the next few months.

  77. abninf says: Mar 7, 2017 1:55 PM

    Frankly, Polian is either lying or admitting to a moment of gross incompetence. The fact that the Colts had Manning, the first pick in 1998, didn’t preclude them from drafting a quarterback in 2000 at or before the Patriots got Brady at pick No. 199. In 2004, for example, Polian drafted quarterback Jim Sorgi with selection No. 193.
    =====================================

    Umm, HE WAS ASKED WHO HE WOULD HAVE DRAFTED IF HE DIDN’T HAVE MANNING. ONCE MORE… “IF HE DIDN’T HAVE MANNING”. IF. IF. IT’S STATED IN YOUR OWN ARTICLE.

  78. sidelinecameraman says: Mar 7, 2017 2:06 PM

    Not sure if this is a sign of dementia, because he definitely can’t smell the garbage he is spewing.

  79. kesher10 says: Mar 7, 2017 2:18 PM

    I didn’t down vote you. But I will correct you. TB and BB are not “among the most dominant duo in the history of team sports”, they are THE most dominant duo. What other duo has done what they have accomplished over a 17 year period .
    ________________________________

    I heard that Phil Jackson and Michael Jordan had a pretty good run in the 90s if you go by championships (which is how most TB fans like to frame the discussion). This is in basketball where 1 player can turn a franchise around immediately. Every year, every team drafted a potential game changer before the Bulls picked anyone.

    Also, I said I was a Colts fan… you have to recognize how difficult it was to write a post praising TB and BB despite their obvious abilities.

  80. killxswitch says: Mar 7, 2017 2:25 PM

    patsxsaintsfan says:
    Mar 7, 2017 12:20 PM
    Polian is the worst person on ESPN by far. Yesterday during the scouting combine while discussing mike Williams from Clemson he said he is no Marvin Harrison just to show off the fact that he was able to draft a HOF WR. Polian didn’t have a first round grade on Brady, no one did otherwise polian or 31 other GMS would have drafted him in the first 5 rounds. You got your gold jacket already you don’t have to lie about who you wanted to draft.
    ————–

    And Polian didn’t even draft Harrison. He did have the chance to draft Harrison when he was still in Carolina. He drafted a bust RB instead.

  81. The Dangerous Kitchen says: Mar 7, 2017 2:37 PM

    abninf says:
    Mar 7, 2017 1:55 PM

    Umm, HE WAS ASKED WHO HE WOULD HAVE DRAFTED IF HE DIDN’T HAVE MANNING. ONCE MORE… “IF HE DIDN’T HAVE MANNING”. IF. IF. IT’S STATED IN YOUR OWN ARTICLE.

    ———————

    If I gave a qb falling to me in the draft that I already know to be that good (this is Tom Brady we are talking about) I dont care who I already have Im grabbing him. Ill figure out the log jam later but no I would not just pass over a TB level qb if I already know how good he is.

    If Polian really did decide to pass on TB all the time knowing how good he was then I dont know what to say to that. (Except I really dont believe his claim that he knew)

  82. beeallendall says: Mar 7, 2017 2:48 PM

    Not only did Polian not have Brady in the first round, he came within an hour of taking Ryan Leaf instead of Peyton Manning. He’s a fraud who got where he is by feeding the press information they desired and in return he gets voted into the HOF. The one thing I’ll give him is he’s the luckiest con artist that has ever worked in the NFL. The Bills had already drafted Jim Kelly, not him. Peyton fell into his lap, (and he almost blew that one). Andrew Luck fell into his lap but he and his kid were fired before they could draft him. His drafts stunk after he got rid of all his experienced scouts and put his kid in charge. He couldn’t draft a letter on his own. He signed every free agent available when he went to Carolina, had a great year and then almost plummeted the franchise into bankruptcy and they only been in the league for a couple of years. He’s a fraud and the media plays along to get what they want and all they have to do is perpetuate his version of how he sees his legacy.

  83. patfanken says: Mar 7, 2017 2:52 PM

    orrnumberfour – Generally Pats fans won’t give you a down vote because of what team you are a fan of even if its the dispicable Colts. You get down votes because of what you say.

    What you said was reasonable and probably true. If the Colts had picked Brady in the 4th or 5th rounds, he likely woud have wound up being Manning’s back up for 4 years and have become a FA, where he would have gone to another team and become what he became, a star NFL QB.

    No Pats fan would ever tell you that Brady in 2001 would become the GOAT. At the time we were happy he was a competent QB who didn’t lose games. It wasn’t until the 2003 Superbowl and the 2004 season that we knew we had an elite QB. But it wasn’t until the 2007 that we got an incling of what he could become. Then we saw what we THOUGHT was the standard age decline in 2012-2013 where he was good but not great…..and no honest Pats fan would tell you we expected him to actually IMPROVE his game from 2014-to the present.

    Now would he have been as great with another team, and another HC, I don’t think so. But there is no doubt in my mind he would have ended his career as one of the best QB’s of his era regardless of the team he was with.

  84. edelmanfanclub says: Mar 7, 2017 2:54 PM

    You dont let a player regardless of position fall that late into the draft if you have a 1st round grade on them. There is no way Polian had a 1st round grade on Brady, but if he did he looks like more of a moron. His teams were never built on depth which is why Peyton had great numbers on offense but their team couldnt survive injuries or properly allocate money for anything but Peyton’s toys. It got him a bunch of records but when the offense flopped they were done, even if the defense played well and that happened pretty frequently in the postseason when Manning wasnt able to run up the score with his offense. Polian gave Manning a great offense, a good defense and great defensive coach but he never gave the Colts depth.

  85. bradygirl12 says: Mar 7, 2017 3:48 PM

    Why didn’t they draft Brady then? This guy is some piece of work.

  86. gilperreault says: Mar 7, 2017 4:06 PM

    Bill shouldn’t have put all his chips on the table and lied and said they had a 1st round grade on Brady. He should have lied and said they had a 3rd rd grade and he MAY have been able to have some people believe him and his ego would have been boosted. Now, he just looks like an insecure fool.

  87. harrisonhits2 says: Mar 7, 2017 4:11 PM

    “Bill Polian has become an absolute a$$clown.”

    What do you mean “has become”???? He’s always been an absolute a$$clown. And that was on his good days.

  88. joshgordonsbong says: Mar 7, 2017 4:14 PM

    Man he doesn’t work for the colts anymore but def still parties with Irsay…Go home Bill you’re drunk

  89. thegreatgabbert says: Mar 7, 2017 4:36 PM

    If Bill recalls his own scouting report on Brady correctly he mentioned “future HOF type”, “could win multiple SBs” “Everyone will regret passing on this guy…”

  90. tigerlilac says: Mar 7, 2017 4:45 PM

    If he is so good at rating QBs, why didn’t he have a replacement for Manning? Or is he admitting “suck for Luck was a real strategy approved by him”?

  91. soaringelvis says: Mar 7, 2017 5:33 PM

    Hey, Mr. Polian, there’s a reason that your rear-view mirror is so small and your windshield is so large.

    Stop with the revisionist history, it’s a bad look for you. But I know that it’s all you have to hold onto now. We are all created equal, but some of us excel at a much faster rate than others. Hence Mr. Belicheck, every presser he holds reminds me of a line in the movie Gumball Rally, ‘What’s behind me doesn’t matter!’

    We’re on to #6…Move over Pittsburg.

  92. mrclutch5569 says: Mar 7, 2017 5:46 PM

    So tired of this crusty old geezer. He always has to say outlandish things so we talk about him. He was bailed out by Peyton his whole career and is a highly overrated GM for talent assessment. The zombies at ESPN apparently still have use for you though…

  93. jag1959 says: Mar 7, 2017 6:22 PM

    And yet he is in the HoF while Flores and Coryell are not

  94. ibillwt says: Mar 7, 2017 8:38 PM

    Wonder if Polian passed by Belichick at the combine while he had his worn-out rumpled 6-Rings shirt on?

  95. ghostperception says: Mar 8, 2017 12:03 AM

    How is this guy employed? He is always full of S..t. Tries to always take credit for other peoples good decisions, and then (obviously) forsaw other peoples mistakes. Why doesn’t he have 10 or 12 super bowl rings?

  96. bertilfox says: Mar 8, 2017 7:15 AM

    Remember….it’s not a lie if YOU believe it!

  97. bearflagfan says: Mar 8, 2017 9:48 AM

    Surely the Colts produced a draft binder in 2000. Show us the pages. Or relegate this to a Trumpian Claim.

    (A Trumpian Claim is a statement about a past event that has no factual backing but is intended to make the person making the claim appear smarter than they actually are.)

  98. patsrthegreatest says: Mar 8, 2017 11:18 AM

    Sounds like uncle Jimmy must’ve passed Bitter Bill the cookie jar a few times…he’s high all right, but not on assessing talent

  99. rc33 says: Mar 8, 2017 12:10 PM

    Well this is interesting. Tell ya what Bill, as has been reported numerous times over the years, prior to the 2000 draft, the Patriots were the only team to request tape on Tom Brady from Michigan.
    So you guys had a #1 grade on a player you never bothered to request tape on.
    Okey doke…
    And I love how he drops Roethlisberger’s and Aaron Rodgers’ names too.
    Let me guess; he liked Ben over Eli and Philip Rivers all along (despite both being drafted ahead of Roethlisberger). Of course he did!
    And he also loved Aaron Rodgers much more than Alex Smith, who went 20-something picks ahead of AR. Well, of course he did again!
    This guy’s amazing!!

  100. thirdistheworrd says: Mar 8, 2017 2:25 PM

    QB Film Room says:
    Mar 7, 2017 12:12 PM

    How Peyton Co-Existed with you for all those years really is remarkable. Bill you are annoying more often than not
    ___________
    Can you provide an example of him not being annoying?

  101. npadln says: Mar 8, 2017 10:09 PM

    His “old man smell” is so sour I can smell it through my monitor and TV screens.

  102. grumpysal says: Mar 9, 2017 3:12 PM

    Some other things Bill Polian has done:

    1) sent telegraph to Titantic about an iceberg dead ahead
    2) warned of potential stock market “disruption” in 1929
    3) warned FAA on 9/11 to shut down flights, on a hunch
    4) informed Darren Bevell to run the ball because he had 1st rd grade on an unknown rookie named Malcolm Butler

  103. revelation123 says: Mar 10, 2017 8:20 AM

    Brady was considered a 3rd round pick at the time. Nothing about what Polian said indicates that he’s lying.

  104. veddermn8 says: Mar 10, 2017 12:03 PM

    joe6606 says:
    Mar 7, 2017 12:45 PM

    poor analysis.

    If you have a HOF QB on your roster, you would never waste even a low round pick on Brady. He would never get 1st team reps or have been able to do anything to develop the skills that led him to become “Tom Brady” rotting the bench behind Manning. What trade value would you have ever gotten from a QB who arguably stunk in college, who has the body of a highschooler, and who would have had to experience other than playing mop up in training camp?

    The argument of the Pats drafting other QBs is bogus. None of those guys were drafted to be his replacement or even to provide reasonable competition. They were all training camp arms or drafted to be backups.

    of all the teams that passed on him, Indy is the only one who reasonably passed for legitimate football reasons

    =================

    poor analysis.

    Colts drafted a late round QB more than once during the Manning era (Curtis Painter, Jim Sorgi) AND they drafted a late round QB in the same draft as purported sure thing Andrew Luck. Pats have also shown the value in this as evidenced by the Cassel trade and the current boosted value of Garappolo. And the Packers as well when they picked Rodgers who slipped to them. I mean Mike Glennon, who didn’t play last year just got a big contract and the starting job from the Bears. To say Indy is the only team that passed on Brady based on “legitimate football reasons” also doesn’t hold up as there were many great QBs in the NFL in 2000 whose teams were all set at QB, including the Patriots.

    And Brady didn’t “stink in college”, he went 20-5.

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