Report: Browns would trade 12th overall pick for Jimmy Garoppolo

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Despite reports that the Patriots will not trade backup quarterback Jimmy Garoppolo, the Browns would like to see if there’s a deal that could pry Garoppolo out of New England.

Mary Kay Cabot of the Cleveland Plain Dealer reports that the Browns’ “dream scenario” would be trading the 12th overall pick for Garoppolo after using the first overall pick on pass rusher Myles Garrett.

That, however, would probably not be enough for the Patriots to give up Garoppolo. They reportedly would want a first-round pick this year as well as a conditional pick that could be as good as another first-rounder in 2018. That might be more than the Browns are willing to deal.

But there’s more to the Garoppolo trade than just whether the Patriots and the Browns (or some other team) can agree on compensation. There’s also what Garoppolo wants to do. Publicly, Garoppolo is saying it’s out of his hands, but the reality is he can exert an enormous amount of influence over his future. If he wants to leave New England and go somewhere he can start, he could start speaking publicly about being unhappy as a backup. Bill Belichick doesn’t like having guys in the locker room who don’t buy into what the Patriots are doing, so if Garoppolo started making noises about wanting to leave, Belichick would likely move him. Conversely, if Garoppolo doesn’t want to go to Cleveland (or any other team), he can announce that he will not agree to a long-term contract extension with any team that trades for him without his consent. That wouldn’t prevent him from being traded, but it would make a trade unlikely, as teams don’t want to trade first-round picks for players who are going to leave in free agency a year later.

Until we know whether or not Garoppolo wants to play for the Browns, we can’t know how likely a trade is. But it sounds like a trade the Browns would like to make.

155 responses to “Report: Browns would trade 12th overall pick for Jimmy Garoppolo

  1. Trade for a guy who has hardly played from a franchise with tainted Super Bowl titles. So Cleveland!!!

  2. Garoppolo started 3 games before getting hurt. He has 3 total starts in his career. That’s way too small of a sample size to say he’s worth two first round picks.

  3. He Is better than any qb in this draft.
    But better than tyrod Taylor?
    105 million to spend, they might as well

  4. Also swap your #1 pick for the Patriots 32nd pick
    and your 3rd round pick for the Patriots 3rd round pick and your offer will receive consideration.

  5. If the pats were offered this deal they should jump on it. Sure, try to get a conditional pick to sweeten the deal, but it’s not going to get much better.

    Not taking it means they let him walk for nothing next year or pay him franchise tag money to not test free agency. Even if Brady were to decide to hang it up….they’d still need to give up f-tag money to keep JG in a pats uni.

  6. Few have commented that another factor here is just how comfortable the Pats are with Jacoby Brisset. They felt good enough about him to take him off IR and have a 3rd QB on the roster at the end of the year so he could learn more, quite a luxury for BB. If they feel good about JB, then working a trade to get the 12th pick and maybe more seems like it could be a steal, particularly for a team that just (ahem) won the Super Bowl.

  7. ISNT THIS KINDA TELLING THE BROWNS POTENTIAL PLANS TOO DRAFT GARRETT? DONT THINK THEY WILL GO WITH HIM AT 1 BEST THING THEY CAN DO IS TRADE DOWN GET MORE PICKS FOR 2017 AND GET ANOTHER 1st FOR 2018
    MARY KAY KABOT IS A STORY CREATOR

  8. Awesome, throw in Phillies 2nd Rd pick next year and lets get our franchise qb for the next 10-15 years (assuming garappolo is cool with playing here).

    In that scenario, we would still have picks in rounds 1-7 next year, and this year, patriots get the high picks they want.

    It’s a Win win.

  9. hcgraves says:
    Mar 7, 2017 7:42 PM

    Trade for a guy who has hardly played from a franchise with tainted Super Bowl titles. So Cleveland!!!
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    You must be confused about the tainted Super Bowl titles….Garoppolo doesn’t play for the cheating Colts.

  10. If he is the “next” Aaron Rodgers then 2 first round picks is about right.

    Maybe the Patriots should stop acting on emotion and keep the 25 yearold kid and ditch the soon to be 40 yearold.

  11. No! No, Browns! Naughty! Use your picks on players you love. Build a strong team and be patient on the QB position. You are NOT winning a Super Bowl in the next 3 years no matter who your QB is. You will be drafting near the top of round 1 again next year no matter who your QB is. Build a strong team and find a QB you love in the next 3 drafts

  12. Not enough. If the kid is good enough to be a Top 5-7 QB in this league than you don’t trade him in your own conference for that. No way. No how. Two firsts or don’t even pick up the phone Cleveland. Belichick is no dummy.

  13. Seriously what has this guy done to warrant even one 1st rounder let alone multiple picks? What has any backup to Brady done after leaving the Pats? Nothing.

  14. hcgraves says:
    Mar 7, 2017 7:42 PM
    Trade for a guy who has hardly played from a franchise with 5 Super Bowl titles. So Cleveland!!!

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    If they are thinking about drafting a college qb with that pick then this is in fact a better deal for them.

    But honestly I dont think the Patriots take that. If they do then Belichick knows something about JG the rest of us don’t. If he’s a real deal successor to Brady they just hang on even if thats a bit expensive for a year or so. A viable successor to Brady is the hardest of things to find.

  15. Even Better idea in 3 steps:

    1. Patriots receive Browns 12th overall pick.
    2. Patriots swap their 32nd overall pick for Browns #1 overall pick.
    3. Patriots swap their 32nd pick in the 4th round with Browns #1 pick in the 4th round.

    (That way the Patriots will have 3 picks in the 4th round before Goodell steals the highest one because he didn’t understand 7th grade science and then lied about it once he was told about it)

  16. dawoger says:
    Mar 7, 2017 7:55 PM
    I thought minisoda were the only hayseed dolts dumb enough to cough up that much for an unproven QB?

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    So you would smartly take a college kid instead huh?

  17. Fools. He has two career starts, and will be a free agent in a couple of years. Giving up a valuable pick for that guy is a prototypical Factory of Sadness type of move. I understand that they haven’t had success drafting and developing quarterbacks, but that doesn’t make overpaying for New England’s garbage a better strategy. Belichunk has made a career out of preying on the weak-minded in trades.

  18. (That way the Patriots will have 3 picks in the 4th round before Goodell steals the highest one because he didn’t understand 7th grade science and then lied about it once he was told about it)

    Patriots will not have 3 picks but they will keep the one that they would lose which is higher than the 32nd pick in the 4th round.

  19. So the Browns really believe Belichick would trade away a franchise QB when he will need one in a year or two?

    Tee hee!

  20. Matt Flynn
    Matt Cassel
    Nick Foles
    Brock Osweiler

    Back Up QB’s with success in a small sample size who busted.

    Matt Schaub not too bad
    Drew Brees the exception.

    Sill its the Browns
    whether its the pick or Jimmy whoever they end up with is doomed

  21. Jimmy G is the real deal, but the Browns are the Browns so if you can fleece them.do so. Personally I’d like to see them get a 1st rounder plus Joe Thomas. He doesn’t want to be there anymore and deserves a shot at a ring. Plus Pats can always use o-line help.

  22. Better idea – Patriots keep Garoppolo for one more year as insurance to a 40-year old Tom Brady getting hurt. Brady could decide to retire, especially if he wins #6. Just let this play out already. Jacoby Brissett is not ready to step in and that’s a hard reality.

  23. Anyone who pays that much for Garropolo is nuts. He has a track record of a couple games. The Vikings gave up a first and a fourth for Bradford and he had several seasons worth of data on the books. Even a single first is too much. Browns are about to get played. Again.

  24. If NE won’t do it for just the #12 then walk away CLE. He’s unproven and the #12 or second rounder could be used for a rookie QB.

  25. His leverage is not what the article posits. With a final year on his rookie deal and 2 franchise years Garoppolo would at most cost the team trading for him an average of $16.5M a year. That would currently make him the 18th highest paid QB. And that’s with Garoppolo assuming all the inherent risk on the injury front, the pressure would be on him to get a deal done every bit as much as it would be on any team that traded for him.

  26. seatownballers says:
    Mar 7, 2017 7:45 PM
    He Is better than any qb in this draft.
    But better than tyrod Taylor?
    105 million to spend, they might as well
    ________________________________________
    Better than any QB in this draft? Don’t make me laugh.

  27. Patriots need more than that to help compensate for the stolen draft picks that were taken when idiots didn’t realize that cold weather & rain lowers the PSI in footballs.

    Anyone know when the NFL plans on issuing the press release containing the PSI data that was collected during the 2015 season?

  28. Jimmy G. Better than any QB in the free agent class or draft class.

    As a Patriots fan, I would not expect this years number one.
    Give me twelve and next years one.

    Look up what the Vikings paid for Bradford. Case closed.

    #sixteenyearsofexcellence
    #doyourjob
    #letsgo
    #beantownissportstown

  29. Why do people keep trading the bank for Patriots backups? If the Pats thought Garoppolo was a franchise QB they wouldn’t be trading him away with Brady getting so long in the tooth.

    Stop chasing rainbows and groom your own signal caller or at least dont trade the farm for these journeymen. Pats keep using the draft picks they gain from trading these guys to win more Superbowls!

  30. Jimmy’s got 94 career passing attempts and 2 starts in the NFL, playing for a gimmicky scheme offense and will be a free agent next season…..buyer beware…I think he will do well in the future surrounded by talent, in which Cleveland is building if they resign Pryor….

    Foolish to give up anything more than the 12th pick though…..make Billy sweat it out

  31. Maybe bill wants to wait and see who is left on the board by the 12th pick. Then he’ll consider dealing. BB loves a good draft day deal.

  32. hockeykrishna says:
    Mar 7, 2017 7:45 PM

    Seriously the Patriots should take that deal in New York minute even without a 2018 pick.
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    Nope…need more than that.

    Garoppolo has demonstrated that he is capable of winning games in the NFL.

    All the guys in the draft are unproven beyond being good in college. Every player in the NFL was good in college. Many players that get cut before the season starts were good in college.

  33. If jimmy is as good as the pats fans would have everyone believe he should jump at the opportunity to be the browns savior. Hed be immortal if he turned that franchise into perennial contenders.

  34. And how many times has an unproven QB gone to teams and misfired ? So even if you get garrapalo what good does that do ? Save your picks so in a few years they can pay off

  35. ryder09 says:
    Mar 7, 2017 8:06 PM

    These teams dont learn. Cassel, Hoyer, Mallet… Thats Garoppolos ceiling.

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    That’s silly.
    Why not say Brady is Garoppolos ceiling.

  36. Hypothetically if you could obtain an Rogers, Brady, Farve, Rothlesberger or a Manning for a first round pick and another 2nd, 3rd or 4th round pick you would justly take it fast because you are set for 10 plus years. If JG is that player (certainly a better risk than a rookie) he would be worth a lot more.

  37. So let’s see- they are willing to trade a high first round pick for Jimmy Garoppolo, who is 25 and has 2 career starts where he looked slightly above average on a great team, knowing that they will be forced to give him a Brock Osweiler type deal starting at at least $15m per year.

    They are willing to do this despite the fact that they could sign Mike Glennon, who is 27 and has 18 starts where he looked slightly above average on a TERRIBLE team, knowing they could keep their high pick and sign him for less money.

    I wonder why I keep reading all of these puff pieces about the spectacular new Browns “brain trust”. Seems like the same old Browns to me.

  38. Keep Garoppolo and drive the Patriot haters further into insanity….as Brady earns 2 more rings followed by Garoppolo earning 5 rings as the starter.

  39. Would anyone like to take a stab at giving me a strictly fact based argument detailing why Jimmy Garopollo is a better option than Mike Glennon?

    Please include what it will take to get each of them (JG: High draft pick, huge contract/ MG: No draft pick, middle of the pack contract).

    Glennon was a solid starter on a terrible team that gave him no help; Garoppollo was worse than Brock Osweiler on the best team in the NFL.

    What am I missing?

  40. I’d be cool with:
    Pick # 12 in first round 2017
    Pick # 33 in round 2 2017
    & Browns 4th round pick in 2018

    Pats get back the 2 picks the league stole for #FRAMEGATE (1&4)
    & the 2nd rounder they used to select JG in 2014

    Brown get their franchise QB for next 10-13 years

  41. .
    The idea of getting into a media war with Belichick in New England is a complete and total non starter. Fans would be demanding to trade their Garopollo jerseys for an 8×10 glossy of Roger Goodell.

    The key to the Garopollo negotiation is his agent Don Yee, who also represents Tom Brady. Yee and the Patriots are practically BFFs. I’d wager my eternal soul that the Krafts, Belichick, Casserio, Yee and Garopollo have sat together and laid all their cards face up. The parties involved have no reason to be in a contentious, adversarial relationship. Garopollo and Yee are not looking to screw the Patriots. Neither are the Patriots looking to screw Garopollo.

    If the Patriots move Jimmy G., Yee and his new employer would certainly have had conversations about a longer term contract.
    .

  42. Matt cassell went to the pro bowl and was the starting QB of a team that won its division for the first toimr in years, but he didn’t do either with the pats.

    I swear that most of the people commenting here can’t have begun watching the NFL for more than a couple of years, bandwagoners

  43. Seriously what has this guy done to warrant even one 1st rounder let alone multiple picks? What has any backup to Brady done after leaving the Pats? Nothing.”

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    This is 125% false.

    Cassel’s 2010 season was superb with a 27 TD, 7 INTS under Charlie Weis running NE’s plays and language.

    If Weis had stayed for more than just the 1 year, Cassel likely would have continued to be successful with Jamal Charles in the backfield.

    Try again, liar. Try again.

  44. browns2014man says:
    Mar 7, 2017 7:46 PM

    Dude will be a bust away from NE. Same as all the rest. Book it.

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    The draft is funny.
    Every year the bad teams line up to draft first…and they pick players that are all future 1st ballot HOF players. Yet those teams that pick high in the draft are back there year after year picking at the top of the draft.

    6 teams drafted quarterbacks ahead of Tom Brady.

  45. I do t understand why the Browns would leak this information. It does not help their negotiation strategy. It only emboldens the Patriots to ask for more.

    If I were running the Browns there is no way I would let that leak or I would fire the person who did.

    I also would be very suspect of trading for someone with such a limited sample size of snaps on tape.

  46. 6ball says:
    Mar 7, 2017 8:29 PM
    .
    The idea of getting into a media war with Belichick in New England is a complete and total non starter. Fans would be demanding to trade their Garopollo jerseys for an 8×10 glossy of Roger Goodell.
    The key to the Garopollo negotiation is his agent Don Yee, who also represents Tom Brady. Yee and the Patriots are practically BFFs. I’d wager my eternal soul that the Krafts, Belichick, Casserio, Yee and Garopollo have sat together and laid all their cards face up. The parties involved have no reason to be in a contentious, adversarial relationship. Garopollo and Yee are not looking to screw the Patriots. Neither are the Patriots looking to screw Garopollo.
    If the Patriots move Jimmy G., Yee and his new employer would certainly have had conversations about a longer term contract.

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    Patriot haters are not going to appreciate reading facts which contradict their emotional and biased beliefs.

  47. In Formula 1 they call this the “Silly Season”. Cleveland fans want to disparage a guy who has only played a few games in the NFL though he played those at a level that demonstrated poise, skill and accuracy. The Cleveland fans apparently want to take a rookie from a spread offense who has had no NFL starts or coaching to lead their franchise. Seriously? The track record of Cleveland’s drafted players is among the worst in the NFL so hoard the picks hoping that history will not repeat itself … again … and disregard the skilled QB that Garoppolo might become. He has been trained and schooled in the Patriot offense – widely regarded as one of the best and most diverse schemes in the NFL. But Cleveland fans want an untrained, untested rookie. Three years from now when the Browns are again rebuilding remember what could have been with Jimmy G.

  48. Cleveland needs to be kicked out of the NFL if they give the SB champs the 12th pick, much less another 1st round pick.

    Brock Osweiler 2.0

  49. onereasonableman says:
    Mar 7, 2017 8:39 PM

    I also would be very suspect of trading for someone with such a limited sample size of snaps on tape.
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    Much better to keep the draft picks to bring in a college player with zero sample size of NFL snaps on tape.

  50. therealraider says:
    Mar 7, 2017 7:45 PM
    Garoppolo started 3 games before getting hurt. He has 3 total starts in his career. That’s way too small of a sample size to say he’s worth two first round picks.
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    But it ain’t what you or any teams think he’s worth – it’s what he’s worth to the Pats. If Brady got hurt preseason, nobody would be surprised if Jimmy started and took the Pats to 10-6 or 11-5 and a playoff win. That means he’s worth a lot more to the Pats than the 12th pick. Don’t forget, Pats can still get a likely pick for him if next year they offer him a minimum qualifying tender and in the meantime have the benefit of him as quality backup all season, so any potential buyer has to make a big offer.

  51. It is easy to say Garopollo is better then any QB in the draft, but will he be better then any of these guys three years from now? I think there are guys in this draft with more upside.

  52. usa98j30t4 says:
    Mar 7, 2017 8:06 PM

    Look up what the Vikings paid for Bradford. Case closed.

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    The Vikings went full Hue Jackson because they thought they were a superbowl team. About mid December they would have gave back Bradford for the 4th rounder back.

    The 2016 week one Vikings and the Browns are two totally different stories.

  53. I’d much rather make a financial mistake (Houston/Osweiler, Chicago/Glennon) than the mistake of giving away a high draft pick on a completely unproven commodity. (I realize the irony that draft picks are also “unproven commodities”. But you get my point)

  54. Unlike Osweiler you’ll get him for one year on his rookie deal at $1 million so you’re not throwing $20-30 million at the wall to see if it sticks. If you watched him play, despite the small sample he’s the real deal.

  55. IMO, BB gets a 2nd rounder to go with the 12th overall and JG is gone.

    But, if BB does not deal him then look out world, the successor to TB12 is in da house.

  56. dansardo says:
    Mar 7, 2017 8:30 PM
    Matt cassell went to the pro bowl and was the starting QB of a team that won its division for the first toimr in years, but he didn’t do either with the pats.

    I swear that most of the people commenting here can’t have begun watching the NFL for more than a couple of years, bandwagoners

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    Then a tailspin into being a career backup.

  57. beachsidejames says:
    Mar 7, 2017 8:45 PM

    All the big talk from girly man nation and it still comes down to Carapalo sucks.

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    Dolphin fans are certainly experts at watching a team that sucks.

  58. The Patriots love him. Bill Polian said he has him as a 1st round guy in the draft 3 yrs ago. Scouts think he is better than all the guys now.

    Are you looking for best in league or guy who is top 10 top 15 for next decade?

    I’d send 12 for Jimmy G in a second if he signs a extension

  59. Jimmy’s got 94 career passing attempts and 2 starts in the NFL, playing for a gimmicky scheme offense and will be a free agent next season….

    Florio4President…..Can’t thank you enough for one of the best lines I may have EVER read on this site! “….gimmicky scheme offense…” that is absolutely hysterical! I laughed so hard, I started coughing! After the first or second Super Bowl you may have been able to still call it “gimmicky” but after the second, third, fourth, and oh yeah, FIFTH, I’m not so sure. Priceless. Absolutely priceless!!! I’m still laughing.
    Thanks. Really, thank you.

  60. Maybe the Browns can give the Patriots a 2nd round pick for the privilege of having dinner with Belichick. Or maybe a 3rd rounder to sniff Tom’s jock strap?

  61. This is the last time the Pats will have leverage over dealing JG, they’re right to hold out for as much as they can get. The Browns are also smart to not give up the world for this kid (again, it’s not just giving up the picks, Cleveland then has to PAY the guy).

    Both sides are approaching this correctly, it will be interesting to see how it all shakes out. Wouldn’t surprise me if nothing happens.

  62. duffelbagsports says:
    Mar 7, 2017 8:54 PM
    Unlike Osweiler you’ll get him for one year on his rookie deal at $1 million so you’re not throwing $20-30 million at the wall to see if it sticks. If you watched him play, despite the small sample he’s the real deal.
    ====

    It doesn’t work that way. You absolutely cannot trade the #12 pick in the draft for a guy you only have under contract for one year. If you trade for him, you have to sign him to a long term deal immediately.

    If you don’t and he does well next season, you’re faced with either signing him to a much larger contract next year, franchising him at $24M plus for one year, or watching him walk as a free agent.

    No smart team would do that. Of course, we are talking about the Browns so……..

  63. Scam, Scam, Scam! Bill is using a “leaked source which is probably Mike Lombardi” for that #DREAMSCENARIO so MKC (she’s been fascinated with the QB situation, especially Jimmy G) would spread the word so teams would get in a bidding war with supposedly the Browns for Jimmy G’s services. I highly doubt Triple-H (Harvard, Hue and Haslem) would use their #12 on Jimmy G (an unproven commodity) especially if they’re using analytics because the stats would tell them that would be a mistake. Tyrod Taylor is my bet if the Bills release him and they draft one of the QB’s from the Senior Bowl in a later round!

  64. I say we trade Jimmy for 12th pick and a 4th rounder and only really see two options.

    Option 1 – Use the two picks to help Tommy win his sixth ring, then in two years we hype up Jacoby to get a few more high picks for Tommy’s 7th.

    Option 2 – Use the two picks to help Tommy win his sixth and seventh rings, then in two years we hype up Jacoby to get a few more high picks for Tommy’s 8th.

  65. Would be a steal for NE GArropolo ? cmon give me a break..hes a 2 bit QB that won a cpl cupcake games with NE…stupidest trade CLeveland could ever do

  66. No matter what happens with Jimmy… the Patriots are World Champions and their superior fans are still laughing at Patriot Hater 🙂

    Q4 – (:26) (Shotgun) R.Wilson pass short right intended for R.Lockette INTERCEPTED by M.Butler at NE -1. M.Butler to NE 2 for 3 yards (R. Lockette)

    OT – (3:58) James White rush to the right for 2 yards for a TOUCHDOWN.

    Tee hee 🙂

    #SufferPatriotHater
    #Suffer
    #FeelTheAgony
    #CrySuckers
    #Cry
    #WeOwnU
    #UrNOTHINGBoy
    #DontForgetThatCupcake

  67. .
    Let’s review the Wentz – Goff trades (2016)

    Cleveland got :
    No. 8
    Third-round pick
    Fourth-round pick
    First-round pick in ’17
    Second-round pick in ’18

    Eagles got:
    No. 2 (Wentz)
    Fourth-round pick in ’17 (No.139 overall)
    ______

    Tennessee got :
    No 15
    Second round pick (43)
    Second round pick (45)
    Third round pick
    First round pick (2017)
    Third round pick (2017)

    The Rams got :
    No 1 (Goff)
    Fourth round pick
    Sixth round pick

    Nobody had any comments about their resume or bodies of work. Neither had ever taken a snap vs legitimate NFL competition, but suddenly Garopollo’s body of work is wafer thin compared to Goff and Wentz. If you add to the fact that Jimmy G was a former 2nd rounder who has three years of experience with the Patriots and Josh McDaniels, one must agree with the above experts : Garopollo is worth noting more than a conditional 7th in 2020.
    .

  68. If you could choose your quarterback by sending him to a football dedicated camp for 3 years to be trained behind the greatest coach and qb in history. Where he learns how to win, he sees how the greatest does it over and over again. He get scrutinized by the best coach of all time. He has spent his rookie years maturing in probably the best environment he could possibly be part of.

    What’s that worth to your team? Your new qb has basically gone to the MIT or Harvard of football graduate school after completing a pretty decent undergrad program.

    Trubisky, watson, kizer…probably all faster stronger and more athletic than jg…maybe one day, better qb.

    I’ll give you two 1st round top 5 picks right now if those 2 guys would train my next qb for 3 yrs.

  69. If anyone has ever read any of Mary Kay’s articles they would understand that she is her own source she knows nothing she would never make it out of Cleveland in a bigger Market because she’s horrible at her job she always has been and always will be. She is in love with every quarterback that she ever sees so this is not a surprise that she comes out with this story from her sources which none of them happen to be in Berea.

    F act of the matter is the Browns would do better with their hundred million to make a deal with New England by picking up any free agents New England once and giving them a large contract that has a signing bonus and then trade that for the quarterback if you want him.

  70. But that would only work if the browns brain trust had a brain. Instead they have a 100million jackpot to use and no players to spend it on. I would sign away with the money and either make a win now team or sign and trade for more picks,,,BUT DO SOMETHING!

  71. If I were Philadelphia, Id try and shop Daniels to Cleveland for their #12 straight up. That pick up Foles to back up Wentz. We’d dump Chase’s salary, get a comparable back-up and #12 pick. That is if the market is interested in Chase as stories have insinuated.

  72. All these folks bash home because he is a Patriot. He has not done much, however, if he was to be coming out in this draft he would be the number one qb if not a top three. From what I saw in his 2 games I saw was a composed qb who studied and knew the offense. The Browns need an offense first

  73. Cleveland is only doing this bc “the computer” told them to. Or the baseball guy they hired from the Mets thinks Garoppolo plays baseball. Either way to good / early a pick to give up on someone we don’t even know if he’s a legit #1 QB yet. Ask K.C how they feel about the Matt Cassel/Vrabel trade long term. I know Pioli was familiar w Cassel and pulled that trade but..still was awful. Cassel hasn’t even sniffed a starting a QB job since he flamed out in K.C. Not trying to be a troll to Browns fans but just trying to be honest here.Just seems that basically the real Browns continue to make Kevin Costner look like a genius. Sorry Cleveland! Best of luck in all you do! Really, I’m sure you’ll take all the luck you can get at this point. If this does happen, I hope it works as your front office must be envisioning.

  74. Who would be available at #12 that would be more valuable to the Pats than Garoppolo?

    Heck, who would be available at #1 that the Pats would find more valuable?

    I just can’t think of any trade that would have more value than what the Pats already have. They have someone they believe is good enough to succeed Brady. What are the odds of finding that kind of value from a draft pick?

    They’ve spent more than a decade winning or contending for Super Bowls with only low draft picks. There is NO pick in this or next year’s draft that they need this much.

  75. Cabot is delusional. I mean, think about what she’s saying: draft Trubisky with the #1 overall and then also trade another first round pick for Garropollo. I mean, how many QBs does a team need to peg as an eventual starter. This obsession with the QB position has driven some in the Cleveland sports media round the bend.

  76. New England should jump at that offer. Once Brady’s achilles rolls up his calf like a window blind and Jimmy has to play a full season, his stock will fall like a stone.

  77. 1) Unlike Jerry Jones, who says he is the only one who will decide a player’s ultimate fate, Bill Belichick is the real deal. He will decide Garoppolo’s fate.
    2) All previous Patriots’ backup QBs mentioned were traded by Belichick. He knew their value as a backup for NE and he knew the threat they posed starting for any one of the other 31 teams. Both during the trade year and 3-5 years out. He still traded them. History has been kind to him.
    3) He knows the same information about Garoppolo. And without the sample size that every other team would rightly prefer. He doesn’t need the sample size. He sees him in practice every day. Belichick KNOWS what JG will do on the field. Whether with the Patriots or against them playing for your team. Only he knows better than your coach, GM and owner do put together. Belichick counts cards in a game played without cards and, unlike blackjack, uses that ability both against the house (ie the entire league) and adjacent players (ie your team).
    4) What is #1 thing all players want? To play on a SuperBowl team? #2? Being well paid. Who can guarantee that as long as you’re not greedy? Belichick. What other team can guarantee that? None.
    5) So Belichick is in a position to keep Garoppolo in a Patriots uniform for the foreseeable future (ie more than just two consecutive tags) if Belichick believes Garoppolo can do the job. But he can also count cards. And knows how to gamble better than anyone one else in the game. Against the league, against your team and against Garoppolo if need be.

  78. People of Cleveland are good people. They deserve much more of the Browns. There should be a Gameshow where America can buzz in and vote for what do do with their draft picks.

  79. If Bill trades Jimmy G it means he thinks Brady has 3 years of high quality football left. I think it also means he flips the 12th pick into multiple later round picks

  80. Why are you reporting speculation (esp. from Mary Kay Cabot) and reporting as fact?… oh wait…that’s how the world works now.

  81. Any QB drafted by the Brownies will spend several years running for his life. Roughly every other years. they have a fire sale, to sell all talent drafted by prior regime.

  82. Pats like Jacoby Brisset(whom they used a premium pick to acquire) better than Jimmy G… besides a few sheltered/well coached games by the greatest of all times he’s largely unknown…. bill polian isnt the greatest personnel evaluator.. thats likely belicheck as well…. and hes willing to roll the dice with brisset over Jimmy (hence the trade negotiations to the browns)

    I wouldnt trade w/ the belicheck… theres a pile of dead bodies of supposedly smart ppl who’ve done that before

    please browns dont make them stronger….

  83. please tell me what this guy has done to deserve giving a first round draft pick for other than being a brady backup? you act like it is insane for a team to give Glennon a big money deal but unlike garapolo he actually has shown he can be at least a competent NFL when given the chance. his only problem was Tampa hired Lovie Smith who as a coach will derail any qb, the guy has no clue offense is part of the game. if he were the coach of the pats Brady never would have gotten his chance, if rodgers had played for him you never would have heard of him, no Arron we do not throw the deep ball we get off the bus running!

  84. If BB really thinks Jimmy G is that good – I think he won’t trade him. Forget that you’ve a GOAT Tom Brady on your team. Imagine you’ve a Player A, who gives you probably 3 years of championship window and a Player B who has 12-15 years of championship window. Would you trade Player B away to win now for next 3 years with Player A or would you trade Player A next year (when he’ll have 2 more years of championship window) and get a 1st round pick in return to help setup another 12 years of championship run? If you start thinking that Player A in the above question is Tom Freaking Brady there’s no way you’ll entertain the thought of trading him next year. But if you remove the name tag from Player A, the 2nd scenario does make sense to me. And I don’t think BB looks at the names when making decisions. Maybe he’ll pull off the most ballsy of moves to trade Tom Brady next year and setup Jimmy G as the QB of future for Pats – not only because he believes Jimmy G is a good QB but also to prove that he can win even without the greatest QB to ever play the game.

  85. ton of passionate boston pats fan pushing Pro-jimmy … dont fall for it….

    as a cowboys fan would I trade Dak for 2 1st rd picks and keep romo as the starter for 1 yr?…. no, so similarly if they really thought he was the real deal no way they’d want to deal him

    trade a conditional pick ranging from 1st all the way to 5th rd

  86. This would be so cool. After taking 2 DEs and a QB in the first 3 rounds last year, they will take a DE and QB in the first round this year! Because, you know, you start 3 DEs and 2 QBs, smh. Looking ahead to the 2018 draft, it will be curious to see what QBs and DEs they will add early then, too. Luckily the Browns have the luxury of being so stacked at every other position, they can focus exclusively each year on DE and QB.

  87. Pats would be lucky to get the 12th pick for Garoppolo. He hasn’t really proved much at all. The Bears are apparently headed for Glennon (a wise choice, as the Bears are returning to Bears football, running the ball first).

  88. Cassels had one good year and the list of QB’s that had one good year is a long one. Nick Foles had a one fantastic year and did nothing since. These guys are career backups and you don’t give up the 12 th pick in the draft for that. If the Browns were smart they would continue to build and wait another year to draft a real franchise guy. You NE fans make me laugh because you see an opportunity to ripoff Cleveland and will do and say anything self serving. Even trying to use reverse phsycholo. Laughable.

  89. Garoppolo has two super bowl rings. That’s two more tha Marino, Rivers, Romo and Cousins combined.

  90. The Browns have suffered enough. While Garroppolo MIGHT end up being a good QB, his NFL sample size is way too small to spend a 1st rounder on. I know he’s being groomed behind Brady, but look what my Texans did based on a “but he’s groomed behind Peyton” narrative. Draft Garrett #1 and either draft an O-Lineman or trade for more picks with #12.

  91. All recent “in the know” type of reports out of Foxboro are that he’s staying put, and they’ll figure out how to do it. Until recently, I was convinced that they would trade him. If they can compensate him enough until Brady either declines or walks away, at the vey least, the Patriots would have a smooth transition at QB with high upside at the position.

    For this to work, he has to accept that he’ll be 27 or 28 before his time comes.

  92. Hell to the naw! Pull a profit on another team patriots yall are the reason my team the browns stays at the bottom screw this trade I hope they don’t even give up a 4th round pick for jimmy g he isn’t even close to being worth some of the talent at 12 overall not even close

  93. What a mistake. Jimmy is working in the easiest system in all of football. Ask yourself how many plays in a given game (or year) that tom brady makes that no one else could have done. Its not many at all!!!! Its all screens and slants and he just plugs away with high percentage passes that everyone in the NFL can make. A rookie third stringer when 2.5 games with 0 int’s and beat a playoff team by more points than tom beat them in the playoffs. It’s a dummy proof offense. Tom brady is a 7 and looks like a 10 in that easy offense, Jimmy is about a 7 too and his stats looks phenomenal in that offense. Jacoby is about a 4 and looks like a 7 in that offense. Dont waste your money Browns, get a guy who makes plays no one else can. A guy who if removed changes your offense, if Tom goes down that team is still a 12 win team. So any qb on that roster you cant bank on to step into an offense and actually make the hard throws, stand in the pocket and take hits as they deliver the ball, drop back and use great footwork, read through progressions- these are all things that no NE qb does. Its 2 step drops and quick slants and screens.

  94. I can’t believe the people on here saying that the Patriots should ask for more. Are you out of your mind? A pick in the top half of the first round for your backup QB? You are delusional if you think that’s not enough.

    If the deal doesn’t happen, it won’t be because the Browns didn’t offer enough. It will be because either a) it was never offered and this is just a false rumor or b) the Patriots have no intention of trading JG at all.

  95. What alot of people are missing here..is if Jimmy G walks next year. The patriots get a compensation 3rd rounder. So they wont completely lose out on him. Bill will most likely trade the #12 anyway for a 2nd and 3rd or something. So he is weighing the insurance purpose of Jimmy G. add a 2nd rounder..and lose him. Or just carry on like usual..gain a 3rd rounder if he leaves…and we have the insurance of keeping him..just in case Brady gets hurt. I doubt he will decline. Brady is as good now as hes ever been. He is a freak. Me personally..I would trade JG for the #12..and get a bunch of 2nd rounders. make a few deals..and own the 2nd round

  96. That sounds like something the browns would do. And that is why they stink every year.

  97. Unless the pats think Brady is going to retire before Garoppolo gets his next contract, you do the deal. Use the 12th to get another qb if necessary. The pats won’t have a shot at a high pick as long as Brady plays. Might as well get the most for polo, and the 12th pick is a cheap talented immediate starter.

  98. really???
    – name me one pats back up that worked out elsewhere?

    new england is a unique place, skeletor is a evil mastermind who could win 10 games with the kfc guy as starting qb.
    they have the best system in place in the history of football

    so, sure keep on sending 1st round picks to boston for the malletts-hoyers-cassells-huards-gutierrez & co

  99. hcgraves says:
    Mar 7, 2017 7:42 PM

    Trade for a guy who has hardly played from a franchise with tainted Super Bowl titles. So Cleveland!!!
    Says a guy who obviously doesn’t pay attention.

    therealraider says:
    Mar 7, 2017 7:45 PM

    Garoppolo started 3 games before getting hurt. He has 3 total starts in his career. That’s way too small of a sample size to say he’s worth two first round picks.

    That’s still more games than any player in the draft has started in the NFL. And it was 2 games. The way Garoppolo was driven into the turf would have injured any QB.

  100. The price is that high because the Pats don’t want to give him up. If the Browns want him, it’ll take two 1sts. Have fun in the draft/FA, Cleveland

  101. Patriot fans with their Garoppolo is the best thing since sliced bread attitude is nauseating. Sure we know you want the high pick, but please don’t come here with this backward logic to justify why it should be done. Have some honest perspective and some of us might have a little bit of respect for you as sports fans who can be objective from time to time if you acknowledge Cleveland would be nuts to do this.

    After 2012, just about every team might have traded their first rounder for Griffin with Washington. How’d that work out. Garoppolo just has 1/6 of that starting experience and numerous reports from your own Patriot boot licking beat writers of being a horrible practice player. Yeah, let me sign up to get that from a franchise that rarely ships players out that are later productive elsewhere, especially at QB, to come in and be the alpha dog of a dumpster fire.

    Also, I love the guy talking about not knowing what a spread QB could do and already knowing Garoppolo can win games in this league. Ryan Leaf won his first 2 starts too, and Garoppolo came from a college spread. What makes this a move you don’t do is the compensation needed to get him and the contract you have to do to keep him. The one great thing about hitting with a young QB and growing is the rookie contract. Belichick won 11 games with Vinny Testaverde at QB and didn’t hide him. Any time he’s selling you a QB, remember that.

  102. A fool and his draft picks are soon parting. I could see the Browns letting this happen and being played by Belechick, Kraft like a grand piano. They’re too stupid not to.

  103. Players in the New England scheme are system robots. They could not play anywhere else. That is the genius of BB. I am racking my brains and without getting out my books I am struggling to remember anybody that has left BB that has excelled especially QB’s. Even Brady would struggle somewhere else. Again I am being very lazy here but I can’t recall any QB that has excelled coming in for a starter who got hurt and later traded only to be axed a season or two later. I wouldn’t call Brees a backup just incase his name pops up. Even if The Grop is the exception to the rule going to Cleveland would be a disaster for his career, although his bank manager might think differently.

  104. “These teams dont learn. Cassel, Hoyer, Mallet… Thats Garoppolos ceiling.”

    Technically, since the Pats also drafted Brady, wouldn’t that be considered his actual ceiling? Since they thought enough of him to keep him as the 4th QB on the team his rookie year?

  105. patriotsdefense says:
    Mar 7, 2017 7:49 PM
    If he is the “next” Aaron Rodgers then 2 first round picks is about right.

    Maybe the Patriots should stop acting on emotion and keep the 25 yearold kid and ditch the soon to be 40 yearold.
    ————————————–
    Since when has BB and Mr. Kraft acted on “emotion” in regards to the roster. The last time was with Troy Brown, BB relented to Robert and kept Troy one more year. And BB was right that last year was one to many, I say that with him being one of my all time Pats players. They didn’t call him Mr. Patriot for nothing.

  106. realfootballfan, you could of used half the space you did to convince us that you don’t know squat about the potential of Jimmy G. I hope they keep him and let Brady go. In the future save yourself some time.

  107. Who’s worse: the Pats fans who think Jimmy G is worth two first-rounders (if not even more), or the anti-Pats posters who insinuate that one of greatest QBs of all time is a product of the system?

    Anyone who watches football much knows enough to know that the odds are in favor of New England winning any deal or the lack thereof and that Cleveland is likely to do whatever ends up being the worst (if they’ve not already done that buy trading for Oswiler).

  108. How about the Patriots trade Tom Brady to the 49’ers for first round draft pick from this year and a second rounder next year. Brady gets to close out his career as the QB for the team he grew up cheering for and the Jimmy G. era begins in New England.

    I hate even saying this as a die hard Patriots fan. But wouldn’t that be poetic justice that the greatest QB of all time could live out his boyhood dream and maybe bring back a shred of excitement for that moribund franchise in the Bay Area. Think about it, but not for long.

  109. Let’s make believe for a moment that the unquestioned best QB of this draft had ALSO spent time as Brady’s backup on a Belichick coached team and even started a few games and did pretty damn well.

    Would the top college QB pick be worth a little more than just a #1 to a team needing a franchise QB?

    I’d say so. If teams were willing to draft a guy with no NFL experience at #1, the best QB of this draft should easily fetch well over a #1

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