Browns will trade or cut Brock Osweiler

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The infiltration of baseball-style analytics has created a basketball-style dynamic in the context of a football trade.

Per multiple reports, the Browns won’t be keeping quarterback Brock Osweiler for long. They’re expected to trade him or to cut him.

If they’d trade him, it would surely be for much less than the $16 million in guaranteed salary Osweiler will earn this year. The new team would take Osweiler’s contract at a reduced rate, and the Browns would pay the difference.

The same thing will happen if the Browns cut him, however. Given the presence of offset language in the contract, the Browns would pay the difference between whatever Osweiler gets on the open market and $16 million.

It’s an unprecedented situation for the NFL, with the Browns acquiring a player who will never play for the team.

And so the Browns can now add a new jersey to the one with all the starting quarterbacks dating back to 1999. Starting in 2017, we can start listing the names on the back of a jersey of quarterbacks who will never wear the jersey.

83 responses to “Browns will trade or cut Brock Osweiler

  1. Oh those crazy analytics guys who run the Browns.

    To turn a 4th round pick into a 2nd they eat 16 million. One of the more astronomically stupid things I’ve ever seen done in professional sports.

  2. browns are playing the offseason very well so far…I really hope it translates into wins, im pulling for HUE and company

  3. At first I thought the Browns were crazy, now I think it was a good move by both teams.

  4. This is not a bad move. They have the money to spend, they basically traded $16M minus whatever Osweiller will make next year for a 2nd rounder. Not a terrible deal if their goal is to get better rather than sit on their pile of cash.

  5. Holy crap. These are actually smart moves. And their made by the Browns!

    Don’t worry. The draft is coming. Muck-up time will be back soon.

  6. The browns paid 16 mill out of their salary cap this year for a second rounder next year. Why not just pay Pryor less than 16 mill? No benefit to cutting him – might as well keep him as your backup.

  7. I know Brock is not worth the 16 or whatever million… but maybe they should keep him for the year. They run through QBs like water. Then again maybe they are worried about paying him long term due to the inevitable injury that awaits the Browns’ QB.

  8. Is a 2nd round draft pick worth 16 million? Maybe, but who knows. It would be very interesting if the NFL allowed teams to trade their draft picks for cash. So cash strapped teams could say put their second round draft pick up for auction and whatever they get for it, they could add that to their cap space. I think that’s coming eventually

  9. The picture of Osweiler is perfect. I can’t decide if it is a BOHICA or downward dog pose, but either way, he is getting screwed by the Browns! Love it! I hope they get more draft picks in a trade for him!

  10. Yeah it cost them 16 mill(like dead money teams eat every once in a while),they are going to release rg3 and go after Jimmy G hard or draft a QB and got a trade partner in the future.They are trying to plan ahead.

  11. Salary floor problem solved and they package the pick in a Jimmy G deal. Sashi and crew are on it!

    #analyticsorbust
    #harvardcrewsmarterthanyou

  12. “Oh those crazy analytics guys who run the Browns.

    To turn a 4th round pick into a 2nd they eat 16 million. One of the more astronomically stupid things I’ve ever seen done in professional sports”

    Um, okay. I’ll bite. They took an asset (cap room) and turned it into another pick for nothing to gain a competitive advantage. While the Browns have deserved much criticism over the years, how is this particular move anything but smart?

    Enlighten us with you acumen, please.

  13. Its bad when the Browns dont want you for more than an hour. I am not going to rip on them though, they have made some great pickups for their team today, so if they dont think Brock can even be a backup then let him go, they got the pick which was obviously of more importance.

  14. Oh those crazy analytics guys who run the Browns.

    To turn a 4th round pick into a 2nd they eat 16 million. One of the more astronomically stupid things I’ve ever seen done in professional sports.

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    If your owner is willing to spend the money, why not spend $16 million on a 2nd round pick if you have the cap space? If I’m a Browns fan, I’m ecstatic that ownership is willing to do this.

    Also, $16 million isn’t that bad. If it turns into a good player for 4-5 years, you’re probably paying that guy less than the price of a decent free agent even if you count the $16 million.

  15. Is this real life? May be a great move because of the cap space and picking up a 2nd rounder, but seeing Osweiler as the Browns QB makes me think of Weeden, Quinn, Frye, etc

  16. its a free second round pick for the browns. They can afford to cut osweiller and not have it affect their future. And they are rebuilding. Pretty savvy now that I think about it. Nobody is trading for osweiller lol.

    Texans made out well too in terms of the deal. They got rid of the guy they were most likely going to cut for a cheaper hit to their cap.

  17. I don’t understand – they gave up a 2nd for Osweiler. They are going to trade or cut him. If they trade of cut him – they have to eat the difference in his $16 million salary?!! So if no trade, they gave up their second to pay a guy that will never play?!!! What am I missing here?

  18. This has got to be one of the craziest trades in NFL history. Especially considering the Browns have NO QB.
    Money ball….it’s a new breed. If the Browns turn it around…you’ll see a lot more doing this model.

  19. This is a good move for the Browns. The new CBA has a pretty high salary cap floor…I believe 90% of the cap.

    The Browns have a ton of cap space. They get a second rounder who can hopefully become a starter on a rookie contract and I think a fourth rounder who may be able to contribute. All they had to do was trade cap space/money that they were already required to spend but judging from the hardline they held with Pryor didn’t plan to spend just to spend.

  20. It’s an unprecedented situation for the NFL, with the Browns acquiring a player who will never play for the team.
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    Only the Browns. This is very wild stuff!

  21. If the Browns agree to pay most of the salary, plenty of teams would be willing to give up a fourth round pick for a backup quarterback with starting experience. If they can pull it off, they get free second- and sixth-round picks for spending some money they can easily afford.

    I’m not sure I’m comfortable with the Browns being smarter than the rest of us.

  22. @harrisonhits

    I disagree I think this is a good trade for Cleveland. DePodesta may be a baseball guy and he used a baseball GM approach to this trade. You’ll see salary dumps all the time in baseball but not really in football because of the cap. Well the Browns have alot to spend and can afford some leeway. He turned a 4th into a 2nd and 6th by just giving up salary cap they werent going to spend anyways. If Osweiler is a sunk cost thats fine, they arent anywhere close to being in cap trouble. They still turned a 4th into a 2nd and 6th just to use up money they would have probably had left over.

  23. “And so the Browns can now add a new jersey to the one with all the starting quarterbacks dating back to 1999.”

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    But he’s never going to start for the Browns, so that doesn’t make any sense.

  24. eroschmidt says:
    Mar 9, 2017 5:09 PM

    I don’t understand – they gave up a 2nd for Osweiler. They are going to trade or cut him. If they trade of cut him – they have to eat the difference in his $16 million salary?!! So if no trade, they gave up their second to pay a guy that will never play?!!! What am I missing here?
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    Look at those trade details more closely. The Browns are GETTING the second-round pick. I had to look at it twice, too.

  25. So basically, the Browns are expecting Osweiller to get a huge contract after they cut him? If he signs for $2 million, the Browns are essentially paying $14 million for a second round draft pick.

    And the Texans giving up a second round draft pick in hopes of ridding themselves of that contract? I’m in the minority on this, but it looks like both the Texans panicked and the Browns may end up paying an extremely high price for a second round draft pick. Looks bad for both teams.

  26. Ok, Cleveland gets Osweiler, whom it will trade, a sixth round pick and a second round pick next year. It gives up a fourth round pick this year, $16 million and takes a $10 million cap hit.

    It plans to trade Osweiler to another team for less money.

    So, for $16 million minus whatever, and this year’s fourth round pick, they get next year’s second and this year’s sixth.

    So the question becomes, is acquiring next year’s second round and this year’s sixth worth losing a fourth rounder, $16 million (less whatever) and a $10 million cap hit (in a year where Cleveland is cap-rich)?

    When you net it out, it might…. might…. make sense. Won’t know for sure until we see what Cleveland gets for another team picking up Osweiler, through trade or otherwise. Crazy, yes, but crazy like a fox or like a loon?

    One thing’s for sure – Cleveland’s management is thinking outside the box.

  27. The key here is the Browns’ cap space. They don’t need the player, they needed his cap cost. They STILL have 84MM to spend (though it’s less after today’s activity), AND they have to reach the NFL’s salary floor levels. This helps, and nets them more draft picks.

    Now here’s the deal. Over the next 2 years the Browns currently hold 22 draft picks with multiple first round and 2nd round picks. After drafting and keeping 14 picks last season, that is clearly too many picks. They can easily afford to give the Pats a multiple pick haul (say 3 picks over the next 2 years including the #12 this year) and STILL have more picks than anyone one else in the league.

    MAKE the deal Hue if not for any other reason than it will make MY draft season that much more interesting. 😀

  28. It makes sense IF the Browns can draft a good player with that second-round pick. And there’s the rub … their drafting record over the past several years has been PATHETIC. It’s a hard thing to quantitatively measure, but I think there’s a real good chance that the Browns’ draft record over the past five years has been the worst of any NFL team in history. They keep getting high draft picks, and they keep using them on guys like Trent Richardson, Justin Gilbert, Johnny Manziel, Brandon Weeden, Cameron Erving, and on and on. You couldn’t do worse if you were TRYING to draft bad players.

    They’d better start drafting some decent football players, or 1-15 seasons are going to become the norm for them.

  29. smart move. They are now trying to trade Oz and a 7th rounder for a 2018 3rd round pick. And they are telling a potential trade partner that they will eat half of the Oz $18 million cap hit. So, they will basically end up paying $9 million for a 2nd and 3rd rounder, which they will then be used in a package to get Jimmy G. Actually, this is very smart, outside the box thinking

  30. The pundits are trying to rip the Harvard boys for pulling this deal off – but here’s where it gets juicy – the Front Office said – they are willing to eat half of Osweilers salary in a trade for a 3rd – then on top of that they will release RG3 – so they only lose a $1 million on the Osweiler deal if it comes through!!!!!!! How freakin’ dope is that! You pick up a #2 – and only lose a cool $1 million!

  31. It would be funny if the Texans gave up the forth round pic they got from the Browns to re-acquire Brock at a reduced rate… It may sound crazy but if Tony Romo gets traded to the Broncos who will the Texans get at QB??? Geno Smith?

  32. Slick move as are all the trades for picks but all of this will ultimately be decided on the talent they acquire with the picks.

  33. Can’t trade capspace in the NFL.

    This trade should be blocked by the NFL.

    The only other option is that they HAVE to keep him.

    Trading or cutting him would be a blatant violation.

  34. If they cut Brock and Griffin… they will be without a starting QB.. right back where they started.

  35. Funny, but the Eagles got ripped for signing Bradford last year, but that signing then trade to the Vikings amounted to Philly paying $11 million for a 1st and 4th round draft pick. 16 million for a #2 seems a bit high, but heck it seems just money with lots of cap to sell. Did Adam Hinkie get a job in Cleveland?

  36. Listen, this guy is such a clod I keep him on the 53 man roster but deactivate him every week, stick him on the highest stool I can find at the 50 yard line without a helmet and have him wear an old fashioned dunce cap! He’s earned it.

  37. So the Browns are essentially paying up to $16 million for a second round pick?

    Houston the clear winner here – they got rid of Osweiler without taking a cap hit. Now they can get Romo and save some change.

    Browns will never win.

  38. Not what Sashi is saying on their website.

    The Cleveland Browns have agreed to a trade with the Houston Texans that will send the Texans’ 2018 second-round pick to the Browns. Cleveland will also acquire Houston’s 2017 sixth-round pick (188th overall) and QB Brock Osweiler for the Browns’ 2017 fourth-round compensatory pick (142nd overall).

    “We’re really excited to acquire a second round draft choice in this trade,” said Executive Vice President of Football Operations Sashi Brown. “Draft picks are extremely important to our approach in building a championship caliber football team. We are intent on adding competition to every position on our roster and look forward to having Brock come in and compete.”

  39. Cleveland is loading up for a trade proposal for Garoppola……..they needed that 2017 2nd rounder for the offer to the Patriots.

    Great moves by Cleveland……

  40. I actually kind of like this move by the Browns. They just may be able to trade for a decent QB now. It’s kind of a sneaky-cool thing in a way. Time will tell, of course, but just maybe this is a way to jumpstart something in Cleveland. Wouldn’t that be amazing?

  41. riraider says:
    Mar 9, 2017 4:55 PM
    There must be more to this story. Who is the QB next year?
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    In Cleveland, Jimmy Garoppolo
    In Houston, Tony Romo
    In Denver, Not Much

  42. Garropolo’s going nowhere. Osweiler will be this years Browns QB. There’s a dearth of experienced QB’s in the NFL. Contrary to 95% of fans and pundits, Osweiler got solid potential under the right coach.

  43. Washington will need a QB soon… 4th rounder for him? lol Washington If Cleveland be smart to pull this off… Kinda rooting for this trade to work out.

  44. The Texans front office just truly sucks. Having to use the Browns to bail them out of one of their worst moves ever … can’t make this stuff up.

  45. NFL should nix this trade. It’s a farce and makes
    a mockery of the game. Let the Texans eat that
    contract and pay for that mistake.

  46. I gotta say.. friggin’ brilliant!

    I’m waiting from someone from the NFLPA to scream “COLLUSION!”

    What a great way to dump a bad signing!

    Cleveland Browns = Pawn Stars!

  47. Well it is illegal to trade picks for cash, but that’s essentially what they’ve done and I think it is brilliant. This is something even Bellicheck has never done and this will be a move he admires and steals. If you think that pick can be a 4 year starter at an avg of $1M/yr on a rookie deal would you pay an extra $2.5M/yr for whomever it ends up being? If the guy is a bust you haven’t spent much. It is a reverse mortgage kinda deal for CLE. There aren’t very many starters in the NFL who wouldn’t be worth $3.5m/yr.

    But let’s say there is a 50% chance the pick is stud/bustand Brock chooses to retire if you release him (unlikely, but I’m setting up just about the worst case for CLE) you’d pay an avg of $9M/yr ($2M/yr to the player who you pick and $8M/yr for Brock) for a 2 year starter (50% chance you get a 4 year starter and 50% chance zero year starter, so you project 2 years) at whatever position. Right now, in the NFL, there aren’t many positions where that amount would be ridiculous for a starter. Let’s say Brock signs somewhere for $6m/yr with $10M guaranteed, then the math starts to look AMAZING for CLE. If they turn this into Jimmy G and Jimmy turns out to be who so many seem to think he will be then CLE will have pulled off one of the most brilliant FA moves ever.

  48. Osweiler is not as good as compared to other playoff QBs. However, he is an upgrade compared to the other QBs on their roster, so cutting him and eating $16M is as dumb as it gets. No wonder the Browns could never get above the basement.

  49. If Elway can improve that OL, Siemien is a better QB than Romo. Siemien was running for his life most of the time last year and still produced a 9-7 season. Romo would have been in the wheelchair for life. The Texans can have Romo.

  50. This Bears fan is looking forward to the day the Browns can pick themselves off the mat. Honestly, I think this trade is brilliant.

    Now, in just about four years or so, the Browns fans can start rooting for the Bears to pick THEMSELVES off the mat. Other than Cleveland and Washington, I cannot think of a more poorly run franchise than my hometown Bears.

  51. Using cap space money to acquire more draft picks is brilliant. The old regimes have spent too much on veteran free agents that are basically Re-treds and missing on the draft. The more darts you have in the game, the more chances you have to hit the bullseye. BRILLIANT MOVE SASHI!

  52. vailskier99 says:
    Mar 10, 2017 4:15 AM

    If Elway can improve that OL, Siemien is a better QB than Romo. Siemien was running for his life most of the time last year and still produced a 9-7 season. Romo would have been in the wheelchair for life. The Texans can have Romo.
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    “Son, I’m only gonna tell you this one time….
    Lay off the drugs”. -Coming To America

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