Stephon Gilmore heading to New England

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Who says the Patriots won’t spend money?

According to Adam Schefter of ESPN, Bills cornerback Stephon Gilmore is heading to New England today.

(In a side note, it’s hilarious that every tweet of news is coming with “barring any final snags,” but also a recognition that anything can happen until 4 p.m.)

Gilmore gives them a shutdown-level cornerback to put across from Malcolm Butler, who got the first-round tender as a restricted free agent. With cornerback Logan Ryan headed to free agency, the Patriots have filled in with a significant upgrade.

The former Bills first-rounder was aiming for a huge payday, the kind the Patriots don’t hand out very often.

157 responses to “Stephon Gilmore heading to New England

  1. He’ll quickly learn that CB means “cheat better.”

  2. Sure glad the Bears are giving $15 mil a year to Mike Glennon instead of ponying up for a guy who could help their league-worst D-backfield. Not.

  3. Maybe the Patriots will coach some consistency into his game. Otherwise, it’s not an upgrade.

  4. If they pay Gilmore big money but dont get a contract done with Butler, Butler is going to be pissed

  5. Wow – did not see this one coming… Buler and Gilmore in the secondary.

    But wonder what this means for cap space and Hightower ?

  6. Can’t believe these losers are still throwing out ‘cheater’ whines – it’s OVAH – Patriots have proven themselves GOAT – it’s about time your owners, coaches, GMs and fans start focusing on your own teams instead of silly excuses.

  7. I’m saying this as a Pats fan; BB hasn’t been good at drafting CB’s. Gilmore was best available. What good is 55 million cap if you don’t use it.

  8. Multiple reports are saying that it will eclipse 14 million per year, so that’s a hefty price tag. I wonder if Patriot fans remember a couple days ago talking about how much Gilmore get beat, getting lost when he does get beat, and looking at his teammates when he do get beat.

  9. WOW! I’m really going to miss Logan Ryan. He’s a heck of a physical corner but WOW! Gilmore is a better coverage guy.

    I would have thought Ryan would have been cheaper? Then again up is now down and down is now up and Mike Glennon is making Tom Brady level money.

    I know nothing about today’s NFL.

  10. Gilmore actually isn’t good at all. Not sure why people think that. Same with Dwayne Allen, the TE. He isn’t good at all either. Not sure what all the hype is about. Maybe bc they’re going to NE.

  11. Dynasty 2014-2017… then Brady retires.. Thats why they kept Jimmy.. Book it!

    -Raider fan

  12. Belichick is ridiculous. This guy truly is the best head coach and GM in the game. Insane.

  13. North of $14 mill a year, any other team does that deal and they get laughed out of the media room but since the pats did it, it’s a great move! What a joke.

    I would have thought Gilmore had more morals than that but I guess winning at any cost means more than teaching your kids not to cheat.

    #livestrongthepatriotway

  14. You have to know Gilmore will be much improved under the guidance of Bellichick and company.

    I can just see him returning a Geno Taylor pick to the end zone.

  15. That is awesome, but I hope we can still find a way to hang on to Logan Ryan in the nickel. He got a lot better over the course of last year.

  16. Clearly a move signed in response to the Giants landing Marshall. BB is a soothsayer right pats fans? He sees the trilogy coming.

    Smart move. Looking forward to Eli – Brady 3

  17. ariani1985 says:
    Mar 9, 2017 9:08 AM
    2 yard Tom is smiling today!
    ———————
    Some YPAs for you: Montana 7.51, Brady 7.49, Matt Ryan 7.44, Dan Marino 7.34, and last and least on this list – your team’s Sam Bradford at 6.6 (wow).

  18. scmems07 says:
    Mar 9, 2017 9:18 AM
    North of $14 mill a year, any other team does that deal and they get laughed out of the media room but since the pats did it, it’s a great move! What a joke.

    I would have thought Gilmore had more morals than that but I guess winning at any cost means more than teaching your kids not to cheat.

    #livestrongthepatriotway
    ———————-
    Josh Norman
    Josh Norman
    CORNERBACK $20,000,000
    2 Trumaine Johnson
    Trumaine Johnson
    CORNERBACK $16,742,400
    3 Janoris Jenkins
    Janoris Jenkins
    CORNERBACK $15,000,000
    4 Joe Haden
    Joe Haden
    CORNERBACK $14,400,000
    5 Patrick Peterson
    Patrick Peterson
    CORNERBACK $13,706,965

    Try to have a clue.

  19. Belichick will have to find another Rutgers product to turn into a stud……..and he will end up doing so as he has done before.

    Amazing. Wish my Bengals were run the same way. $43m in cap space and apparently they can’t sign Zeitler, Whiworth and Kirkpatrick whom each will be $10m at the most.

  20. 345 park avenue is thinking of the next scheme to stop the pats

    ————

    You got that right.

    NE is very familiar with Gilmore, so I trust BB on this one.

  21. billswillnevermove says:
    Mar 9, 2017 9:13 AM
    Guess I am wrong, being reported 14 mil per year, I can only say WOW. I am glad the Bills did not pay that much for him.
    ____________________________________
    Your right but the Bills tend to waste their money on a lot less talent.

  22. The guy will become a perennial All Pro with that coaching staff and supporting cast.

    Thanks, Logan, you did a fine job here and you learned how to be a competent CB and now you’ll cash in too. Win-win.

  23. Oh my god this dude is average on his best day! Waste of $$$. Carr is going to torch this dude in Mexico and the AFC Championship next year.

  24. Don’t know about this one. Did not like is level of competitiveness, not a great tackler either. He may have a little bit better cover skills than Ryan, but Ryan had a knack for making timely plays and is also a very sure tackler. Also has HarrisonHits says, if they don’t take care of Butler, then this move probably won’t enhance the ‘team’ sentiment among the players. It’s one thing to underpay Brady, who’s probably worth near half a billion dollars already..it’s another to underpay a guy who’s made arguably the most important play in the BB/Brady Legacy in the last 15 years AND has become a pro-bowl level CB himself.

    One thing I do love…BB is not scared and he always make this time frame interesting! NOONE saw this or Allen coming.

  25. All the New England GM’s here acting like they haven’t trashed this guy the past 4 years. The guy is terrible. Most overrated corner in the league. Just remember, Chris Hogan beat him on a go route. I hope he does sign there, then Sammy Watkins can torch his locks. Anybody that disagrees with this is a total homer, the kid is bad, you’ll regret it.

  26. I love the haters pretending they can assess NFL talent better than Belichick.

    Bill is always surprising. Two potential weaknesses if Gronk goes down or Butler moves on this year or next are now mitigated with the additions of Allen and Gilmore. If Gronk stays healthy and Butler stays its the rich getting richer. Allen and Gilmore are both hungry to win. Allen’s 27 and Gilmore is 26. The Patriots are reloading with young guys.

    And people wonder why Brady doesn’t retire. Him and Bill are serious about competing for a ring every year.

  27. I love how people knock the average annual value, as if that matters. Very few finish the deal they signed. As smart as Belichick is with the cap, you know there will be team flexibility at some point.

    Belichick is also excellent at valuing guys within the division that have played well against the Pats, and bringing them aboard.

    As far as this affecting Butler, why would it? The Patriots have a ton of cap room. They can get him done this year or next, no problem.

    Surprising with the depth at corner in the draft. But a good move nonetheless.

  28. With the Patriots, it is never about one move. All moves are tied together and this impacts Logan Ryan the same way the Dwayne Allen impacted Bennett. If the Patriots had signed a linebacker, we would all be reading this as Hightower going to Tennessee or somewhere else.

  29. Keep in mind, the draft is loaded with CBs, so BB used leverage on Butler and FA CB market, bringing in Gilmore on their terms, while again rubbing it in Buffalo’s face.

    Poor Bills fans.

    Maybe if their owner wasn’t running around with Goodell trying to support cheating schemes towards the Pats with other owners, BB wouldn’t be so tactical in seeking out revenge like this.

    You idiots asked for it and now you got it.

  30. .

    How cute, the Patriot Homers in full force on this one. The guy is terrible, most overrated corner in the league. Torched on a go route by Chris Hogan, then looks at his safety like it was his fault. He’s not physical. His ball skills are just as bad. Good luck with that one.

  31. None of us know for sure how the Pats moves the last two day will work out, but BB does have a pretty good track record overall (putting it mildly). Apparently BB does not plan on taking any days off from being the most interesting and unpredictable Head Coach and GM in the history of the game.

  32. Also, this means, this comes under Logan Ryan’s price in FA.

    Nothing like winning two SBs with mocked Rutgers DBs, only to pull the rug out on the market and other NFL teams, now willing to pay MORE for Logan Ryan, who won’t be as good elsewhere.

    lol

  33. I like it. He’s underwhelmed thus far in his career relative to his draft position but was a stud at South Carolina. Looks like another Belichick refurbishing of hyped prospect who has yet to live up to it.

  34. scmems07 says:
    Mar 9, 2017 9:18 AM
    North of $14 mill a year, any other team does that deal and they get laughed out of the media room but since the pats did it, it’s a great move! What a joke…
    ———————-
    LOL. What he’d demand if he’d stayed with the Bills, and what he’d get with the Pats, are not the same thing. Brady is taking $14M of the kitty this year – the next highest on the team is $11M which is what Gilmore got last season. He’ll prob get a multi-year deal that pays him modestly more but more of it guaranteed/signing – oh, and an SB ring.

  35. jchipwood says:
    Mar 9, 2017 9:10 AM
    Gilmore will definitely benefit from knowing the other teams playcalls.

    =================
    LOL…Buffalo was coached by Rob and Rex. You think they actually called plays?

  36. Listening to Florio right now (936 EST), and he’s going on about the possible ‘locker room’ problems and BB going against everything they’ve done in terms of team building over the years…and a few sentences earlier that they never know what they are going to do until they do it. They just don’t know what the Pats are thinking any more than any of us do here. Again, not a fan if the numbers look funny…but we traded an all-pro level talent in his athletic prime and still won an SB and the D got better. BB, obvious has earned the right to make pretty much any move. Doesn’t mean you can’t raise an eyebrow.

  37. Lol look at all of these Pats homers thinking Gilmore is a great sign. Chris Hogan torched this guy. Remember when the Pats homers were creaming their pants with Revis coming to NE? How did that work out?

  38. I agree that n.e. is good at assessment of talent, I just don’t think they hit a bullseye here, but until they’re proven wrong, the rest of us still have to hold down the wretching that comes with the beatings they continue to hand out.

    -a still vomiting steelers fan

  39. “Did not see that one coming”

    No one ever expects the Spanish Inquisition !

    (That’s a Monty Python reference for your millenials)

    In truth, every year during the offseason Belichick makes moves noone saw coming, and they pay off a lot more often than they don’t.

  40. “Remember when the Pats homers were creaming their pants with Revis coming to NE? How did that work out?”

    The Pats won the Super Bowl with Revis, it worked out as best as it possibly could. Then they dumped him onto the Jets after bidding up his contract and stuck them with godawful cap hits.

    What were the supposed to do, somehow win 2 Super Bowls in one season to make it worth having brought in Revis?

  41. As a Bills season ticketholder, I like Stephon. But NO WAY he is a Top 5 corner in the league. If the Patriots gave him a big payday this is a terrible move on their part. Guy can’t tackle and when he does try and put a shoulder on a guy he is on the cart headed to the locker room. God bless him is he got his $14 million a year but I glad the Bills didn’t pay him.

  42. Not a fan of Buffalo or New England, but I think 14 million is a waste of money for a guy that is average at best.

    Besides who was the last successful free agent signing that was drafted by the Bills? Bruce Smith???

  43. I told you the crybabies would tell us he sucks.

    He had a slow start last season but…

    Gilmore turned in better performances over the second half of last season, snagging two interceptions in a Week 11 win over the Cincinnati Bengals and improving his PFF ranking to 61st among cornerbacks by the end of the season. Gilmore was rated as PFF’s 14th-best cornerback in 2015.

  44. superFAKEpatriotsfan says:
    Mar 9, 2017 9:40 AM
    ….. Remember when the Pats homers were creaming their pants with Revis coming to NE? How did that work out?
    ————————————————-

    Revis helped the Pats win won Super Bowl in his one Pats season, so it worked out well for the Pats, and lousy for you and all the other Pats haters.

    Gilmore, OTOH, is likely to help the Pats win multiple Super Bowls.

  45. “Remember when the Pats homers were creaming their pants with Revis coming to NE?”

    You mean the winning the Super Bowl, and then releasing him before paying him big bucks and watching his skills decline?

    Yeah, I remember that.

  46. Remember when Pats homers were all stoked about Scott Chandler joining the Patriots? How’d that work out Pats homers? Oh wait, you live in your world of denial just like cheating.

  47. These same bills fans who are saying he’s not very good
    Said the exact same thing last year about Chris Hogan.

    “He drops balls” “he can’t get open” blah blah blah…

    They will be wrong about Gilmore too. He has a real coach now

  48. Did anyone else actually watch this guy play cornerback last year? He looked like a make a wish kid..

  49. Hahahaha. Enjoy Gilmore for that money. New England will learn real quick you better have safety help for him.

    ———-

    You do realize NE plays plenty of Cover 2 and single high safety looks with a Pro Bowl Safety named McCourty, right?

    We don’t need to “learn quickly” either. We’ve been watching BB as the greatest GM and coach in NFL history for over 15 years.

    NE ain’t Buffalo.

  50. The one thing Bill doesn’t do is let agents drag him out with no other options than to sign their guy. If there is a price difference he either trades the player in advance of free agency (Jones, Collins) or lets a player test his market value in free agency (McCourty, Hightower).

    Guys know they can sign but it won’t be a max contract. Bill seems to have an innate ability to assess who will go and who will stay and he trades the guys he know will go.

  51. This is another example of why the Patriots are the best organization in the NFL.
    They lose a CB and don’t flinch. They just get another one who’s better.

  52. Remember when Pats homers were all stoked about Scott Chandler joining the Patriots? How’d that work out Pats homers? Oh wait, you live in your world of denial just like cheating.

    ————

    Chandler had some injury issues, which caused his retirement.

    Not really the same discussion.

  53. To all the Bills fans saying this guy sucks, can’t cover, can’t hit, etc – all I’ll say is that he’s going from Rex Ryan to BB. Gilmore will quickly learn what its like to actually be coached and taught how to play D in the NFL.

  54. Gilmore has hit paydirt:

    1. Going to a winning team.
    2. Best organization in football.
    3. He will not have to face Tom Brady twice each year any longer.

  55. Gilmore can’t tackle.

    Hogan had same numbers with Buffalo and NE.

    Congrats on the 14 mil. Don’t think he is worth it. Can’t believe that pats are paying it.

  56. “Besides who was the last successful free agent signing that was drafted by the Bills? Bruce Smith???”

    Chris Hogan. Last year to the Pats.

  57. justintuckrule says:
    Mar 9, 2017 9:24 AM

    Clearly a move signed in response to the Giants landing Marshall. BB is a soothsayer right pats fans? He sees the trilogy coming.

    Smart move. Looking forward to Eli – Brady 3


    Should that be the case it will be fun. We shall see.

  58. Flash1287 says:
    Mar 9, 2017 9:52 AM
    These same bills fans who are saying he’s not very good
    Said the exact same thing last year about Chris Hogan.

    “He drops balls” “he can’t get open” blah blah blah…

    They will be wrong about Gilmore too. He has a real coach now
    ___________________________________
    Double clutch Hogan? Have you ever seen him make a clean catch on the first attempt without juggling the ball?

  59. Gilmore was also the QB on Jadaveon Clowney’s high school team, where he rushed for 1,331 yards and 23 touchdowns and passed for 1,771 yards with 14 scores in his senior year. He played CB too

  60. I thought patriot fans always said he was overrated and constantly got burned by their WR now they are happy with this signing at $14mil?!?! Lol ok

  61. shocked, not in a good way either. Doesn’t seem really physical. Way overpriced. Draft is rich in CBs too, so it makes no sense.

    Love the “cheating” references. Bunch of losers. Love it.

  62. nbcwantsitsmoneyback says:
    Mar 9, 2017 9:48 AM
    Not a fan of Buffalo or New England, but I think 14 million is a waste of money for a guy that is average at best.

    Besides who was the last successful free agent signing that was drafted by the Bills? Bruce Smith???
    —————————–
    Marshawn Lynch.

  63. Raiding weak teams in transition for talent (especially when it weakens a division opponent) helps to make up for players with superbowl creds who are trying to cash in at high market rates… this is how the Pats win the offseason so that they remain Superbowl favorites.

    Same thing they did with Welker, Corey Dillon, Hogan, Dion Lewis, Marty B., J Sheard, the list is very long. Take advantage of front offices in transitions, or who are in salary cap hell, by low, sell high, collect extra picks. Wow, I feel bad for other teams, a little bit anyway.

  64. CB is one of the most important positions on the field, to stopping a passing game. If the Pats think he is a good one, it makes sense to spend the money there.

    And, the way Brady’s contract is set up allows them a little more cap space than other teams that have a high salary at QB. That helps the Pats have a little extra cap space to use on a player here and there.

  65. jchipwood says:
    Mar 9, 2017 10:04 AM
    _______________________________
    Double clutch Hogan? Have you ever seen him make a clean catch on the first attempt without juggling the ball?

    _______________________________

    I saw him light up the playoffs like Julio Jones, for 180 yards, nine catches and two touchdowns in one game against Pittsburgh… you mean that one?

    Yeah, that was two games ago…

    I will have to go back and look at the tape to see how much juggling he did.

  66. wow…..there are a lot of butt-hurt fans from other teams commenting on this thread…..

    Pats fans trust BB. He’s pretty good. If he believe Gilmore will be good for the team then we trust his judgement. Gilmore certainly has raw talent……BB will coach him into a great player….on that I have no doubt.

    Go Pats!

  67. If this is a replacement for Logan Ryan…

    I just want to be on record as saying that I have always been a big Ryan fan.
    Whatever happens, good luck to Logan Ryan! I hope that he somehow ends up staying here.
    Unlikely, I realize.

  68. Rumor: Pats to trade Malcolm Butler to NO for Brandin Cooks!

    WOW! What did I tell you about the other shoe dropping!

    Would be sad to see Butler go but man I LOVE this team! 🙂

  69. There’s a rumor that Pats may be in talks with Saints again, this time Butler for Brandin Cooks with some picks also involved. Fun football day!

  70. Can we have another cheating scandal and just suspend the entire organization until Belichick forgets how to football? Pretty please?

    Signed,

    Fans of 31 other teams

  71. The Pats fans here remind me of the Trumpbeciles. Living in a state of denial. They think the hoodie is going to take a 26 yr old marginal player and make him a star. Good luck with that. As for Hogan, he had the same numbers with the hood that he had with Wrecks….And Tom quit the fight because he knew he was guilty….innocent men dont admit guilt……

  72. There’s a rumor right now that the Patriots are considering trading Malcolm Butler for Brandin Cooks. If they pull this off, who would they move over to fill Butler’s spot? Keep Logan Ryan or through the draft?

  73. tim8450 says:
    Mar 9, 2017 10:10 AM
    Same thing they did with Welker, Corey Dillon, Hogan, Dion Lewis, Marty B., J Sheard, the list is very long.
    =================

    Same thing? Welker, Dillon and Bennett were acquired through trades. Lewis was a street FA that didn’t see the field in 2014, Hogan a RFA and Gilmore a legit Pro Bowl FA.

  74. The Pats fans here remind me of the Trumpbeciles. Living in a state of denial. They think the hoodie is going to take a 26 yr old marginal player and make him a star. Good luck with that. As for Hogan, he had the same numbers with the hood that he had with Wrecks….And Tom quit the fight because he knew he was guilty….innocent men dont admit guilt……
    __________________________________________

    There is so much laughable waste in this post, I don’t know where to start. For 17 years, BB has shown he can take marginal players and turn them into stars or close to it. UFA, Malcolm Butler comes to mind.

    Hogan in 2015 (Bills): 36 recs, 450 yrds, 2 TDs
    Hogan in 2016 (Pats): 38 recs, 680 yrds, 4 TDs

    Same numbers? Based on the planet you are living on? These don’t even include his lights out AFCC performance against the lowly Steelers.

    And the grand finale, TB was guilty. Contrats, you are among the 5 people left on the planet that actually believe that. That is not a good thing. Look at the other 4 and ask yourself about the company you keep.

  75. Can we have another cheating scandal and just suspend the entire organization until Belichick forgets how to football? Pretty please?

    Signed,

    Fans of 31 other teams
    __________________________________________

    Sure. Just have Goodell and the owners manufacture another one. It didn’t quite have the impact as hoped, but I’m sure they can just suspend Brady for the season this time for making it rain in Foxboro on a Sunday.

  76. unclebluck says:
    Mar 9, 2017 10:27 AM

    The Pats fans here remind me of the Trumpbeciles. Living in a state of denial. They think the hoodie is going to take a 26 yr old marginal player and make him a star. Good luck with that. As for Hogan, he had the same numbers with the hood that he had with Wrecks….And Tom quit the fight because he knew he was guilty….innocent men dont admit guilt……

    ======================

    “State of denial”? BB turned an undrafted CB from West Alabama into a Pro Bowl corner. And Brady never admitted guilt, he stopped because he didn’t want to miss potential games at the end of the year and his mom had cancer.

    Find your seat and fold your hands.

  77. As a Pats fan, I was never a big fan of Gilmore. I loved his size, speed and talent, but it never seemed to translate onto the field as well as you would have liked.

    My only hope is that Bill has seen this kid play twice a year for 5 years. Apparently HE thinks he can make him into a quality big #1 CB worthy of the big money. He did amazing things for Rowe coming off a horrid season in Philly. Maybe he can turn Gilmore’s career around too. Let’s see.

  78. BB about to be brought up on bizarre “cheating” charges by Goodell, Irsay, Johnson, Mara, Rooney, Bisciotti, and as always, Jerrah Jones, for good measure.

    lol

    ESPN ready to profit in the midst of more layoffs for fraud reporting in recent years.

    Love it!

    Go Pats!

  79. BB hasn’t been perfect with his personnel decisions but he understands leverage.

    Ryan and Butler are pretty much trying to break the bank… (I know Butler is) and BB says , this is what we feel is fair… if you say no… that’s it … hasta la vista … and then he does this … and your like … oh … you don’t need me anymore.

    I am pretty sure Butler is gone… They ain’t signing him. I think this move confirms that. This is not about Ryan leaving , its about Butler leaving. I think Ryan was leaving anyway, I don’t think they feel he is the big money corner he thinks he is.

  80. …so much for “home-grown” and “next man up” nonsense…if BB is such a great evaluator of talent, why is he shipping off Jones, Chandler, Ryan, et al?

    tylawpick6 – welcome to your own caphell with that contract…

  81. Raidershavemovedintoirrelevance says:
    Mar 9, 2017 10:00 AM

    Hogan had same numbers with Buffalo and NE.
    ———-
    Same numbers? Maybe targets/receptions were almost equal. But he had twice the TD’s, and about 50% more yards and catch average. Oh and a SB. First year in the Pats system and he played pretty good, he’ll be even better next season.

  82. Butler for Cooks makes sense for the Saints as their entire defense needs an upgrade and Brees can make any WR look good.
    As for the Pats, BB must’ve really seen something in Gilmore to plug him in as the #1 guy for those dollars. Personally, I think losing Butler>gaining Cooks, but what do I know.
    In BB we trust.

  83. bubbybrister/shovelpass says:
    Mar 9, 2017 10:51 AM

    …so much for “home-grown” and “next man up” nonsense…if BB is such a great evaluator of talent, why is he shipping off Jones, Chandler, Ryan, et al?

    tylawpick6 – welcome to your own caphell with that contract…

    ===============

    Uh, because not only is BB good at evaluating talent, but he is good at determining when a player becomes overvalued cap-wise. He’d rather get rid of a player a year early than too late and be stuck in a big contract. Those players will all have picks coming back to the Pats

  84. Lots of sour grapes again from Pats haters. Gilmore and Butler and MCCourtey give the Pats a very strong secondary. And what are the Bills going to replace him with? Rookie? Backup from last year?

    14 million is a lot but they have 55 million in cap room. So why not use it?

  85. bubbybrister/shovelpass says:
    Mar 9, 2017 10:51 AM
    …so much for “home-grown” and “next man up” nonsense…if BB is such a great evaluator of talent, why is he shipping off Jones, Chandler, Ryan, et al?

    tylawpick6 – welcome to your own caphell with that contract…

    ———

    The Patriots currently have a ridiculous amount of money to spend under the cap. There is never “cap hell” when the Patriots are involved. They’re much too prepared for that to happen.

    That, and you asking “why” BB does things as he’s rattling off Super Bowls in the face of them is laughable.

  86. “welcome to your own caphell with that contract…”

    Jenny Ventras @ SI had a great article about how the Pats approach free agency and manage their cap. You may wish to read it and learn their approach.

  87. “Gilmore gives them a shutdown-level cornerback …”

    I almost choked on my drink reading that.

    It’s like Patriots fans have forgotten that they’ve seen Gilmore twice a year for 5 years now.

    He isn’t very good. Certainly NOT better than Logan Ryan.

  88. …bchap17 says:
    Mar 9, 2017 11:34 AM
    ….
    It’s like Patriots fans have forgotten that they’ve seen Gilmore twice a year for 5 years now….
    —————————————————–

    Many Pats haters, and some Pats fans, seem to have forgotten that it makes more sense to trust Bill Belichick’s judgement than it does to trust the judgement of anyone who posts on this site.

  89. superpatriotsfan says:
    Mar 9, 2017 9:40 AM
    Lol look at all of these Pats homers thinking Gilmore is a great sign. Chris Hogan torched this guy. Remember when the Pats homers were creaming their pants with Revis coming to NE? How did that work out?
    ______________________
    He gave up 1 TD all year and NE won the SB…

  90. Guys – what do care how much money Kraft holds onto? While you have Tawmy, they should be using every dollar to field the best team around him. But every year, you bring in junk like Ocho, Haynesworth, Adalius, Donald Brown, EJ Biggers, Knighton.

    stop pretending its your money…are they lowering ticket prices for you with the saved cap space?

    you went to a Superbowl with Danny Whitehead as your best RB? seriously?! I like him as much as the next guy…but you fans deserve more…

  91. I wish Stephon well. He’s being setup to be able to be great. He was good with Buffalo.. but in a totally different situation. New schemes and coaches every year. No consistency, and never had an offense that could bail the defense out. Now he gets to be a cog in a better system, and he’s going to shine.

  92. Watching the Bills all year made me realize that Rex’s awful defense made it virtually impossible for their corners to succeed unless they got consistent pressure on the QB. There won’t be any surprises in how Gilmore performs and that’s what BB desires. Buffalo wasn’t giving him the contract he wanted, so it was inevitable he sign with another team. A QB who renogotiates his deal and cap space allows for a signing like this.

  93. We want 6!!!

    We want six!!!

    We want 6!!!

    We want six!!!

    Patriots are reloading and positioning for another “Run for the Ring”

    They’ll go 14-2, enjoy a bye, clean house in the Playoff’s and secure a win for Super Bowl LII

    I think Jimmy should play the first 4 games, let Tommy rest and then sail the ship to victory… Again…

  94. superpatriotsfan says:
    Mar 9, 2017 9:40 AM

    Lol look at all of these Pats homers thinking Gilmore is a great sign. Chris Hogan torched this guy. Remember when the Pats homers were creaming their pants with Revis coming to NE? How did that work out?

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    I like hot nonsense just as much as the next guy, but even this is a little too spicy for me…

    Revis worked out perfectly for the Pats. He got his ring, pumped up his value, and created a albatross contract for a division rival. Questions?

  95. Looks like Gilmore found yet another way to avoid tackling Gronk after a catch.

    Good move for the Pats, though. Gilmore is a good, but not elite CB and doesn’t deserve 14 mil a year…but he’s good nonetheless and the Pats have the cap space and not a lot of needs so they can afford to overpay.

  96. bchap17 says:
    Mar 9, 2017 11:34 AM

    It’s like Patriots fans have forgotten that they’ve seen Gilmore twice a year for 5 years now.

    He isn’t very good. Certainly NOT better than Logan Ryan.
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    It’s like you have forgotten that Belichick has seen his team face Gilmore’s twice a year as well.

  97. “Remember when the Pats homers were creaming their pants with Revis coming to NE? How did that work out?”

    Revis played at an All-Pro level for a season and the Pats won a Super Bowl? Is there anybody who thinks that didn’t work out well for the Pats?

  98. Any chance it is a Ryan resign and a Butler trade?

    Well, anything is possible, but I’d say this is less likely than retaining Butler and letting Ryan walk. Butler is considered the better of the two and also he’s likely to be cheaper. He’s a restricted free agent, so he’s less likely to get offers from other teams. Any other bidder would have to not only pay Butler but they’d also have to give up a 1st round pick should they actually sign him.

    For sentimental reasons I’d prefer to see the Pats sign Butler to a long-term contract, but as we all know, it’s unwise to be too sentimental when Belichick gets involved in contract negotiations.

  99. BB has seen this guy up front and personal 10 times over the past 5 years…I think he knows what he is getting.

    Consider this…in three games last year he faced the Cards, Cincy and Pittsburgh..in those three games, all teams that spread the defense out, he had 8 passes defended, 5 interceptions and 135 Int Ret Yards.

    If this guy had a drop off last year, I would guess it had much to do with Rob Ryan’s defense and how he used the guy; and I’m sure BB know that. Ryan has managed to destroy every defense he has touched, even on teams that give him a huge cushion on offense.

    My guess is that BB knows this guy is a smart ballplayer and can play much better utilizing the right game plans and schemes. BB has a lot of flexibility in how he builds the defense for next year; let’s see where this all plays out with the rest of the FA’s on defense.

  100. I keep seeing mentions of Derek Carr in these posts and have to ask why.

    Look at his stats 81 TD’s to 31 INT’s.

    Translation.. A 40% give away is NOT gonna scare anyone, let alone the Patriots.

    Enjoy the success you had playing a 15th ranked schedule.

    It’s gonna be a bit rougher next year, up here with the big boys!

  101. Hey haters, you know your salty tears and crybaby, sore loser ways provide us with endless laughter, right?

    Listen up. If you truly DON’T know that we’re laughing at your pathetic hater posts, then that ignorance on your part provides us with even MORE sweetness and laughter.

  102. “Hey haters, you know your salty tears and crybaby, sore loser ways provide us with endless laughter, right?

    Listen up. If you truly DON’T know that we’re laughing at your pathetic hater posts, then that ignorance on your part provides us with even MORE sweetness and laughter.”

    Listen up. Every football fan still knows the Patriots are cheaters.

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