With extra second-rounder, Browns will now try to get Garoppolo

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By beating Brock Osweiler twice, the Patriots may have made it easier to get a big offer for Jimmy Garoppolo.

Mary Kay Cabot of the Cleveland Plain Dealer reports that the Browns will still try to get Garoppolo. The trade for Brock Osweiler gives them an extra second-round pick that can be used to make it happen.

With that extra pick, they’ll now try to put together a package that will get New England’s attention. The offer could include the 12th overall pick in the draft.

The other side of the coin will be the question of how many coins the Brown will give Garoppolo. The fact that the Browns will pay a quarterback they don’t even want $16 million this year will give Garoppolo a position of strength, to say the least.

95 responses to “With extra second-rounder, Browns will now try to get Garoppolo

  1. Saw the report that they want #1 overall for garoppolo. Goodell would shut the patriots down if they somehow got garrett.

  2. All those good moves the browns made are about to be washed down the drain for a guy who has played about 10 quarters in the NFL. You can’t take the browns out of the browns.

  3. Knowing how Bill Belichick thinks, Pats will probably keep Garoppolo and get two #1’s and two #2’s for Brady next year. Chess vs checkers.

  4. Cleveland is desperate, as the should be. If they really think Jimmy is their guy, you can’t knock them for pulling out all stops to go and get him.

    It’s going to take the 12th overall pick plus a future 1st rounder OR the 12th overall pick plus a 2nd rounder this year and a second rounder next year.

  5. The more likely scenario is that the Pats trade Jimmy for picks. Trade those picks for player(s) like the Saints WR. Bill and Brady both know they only have a few years left and then they really don’t care about the Pats drifting back to mediocrity when they leave. They’re all in for now.

  6. Brilliant on the Brown’s front office staff. Used their cap space to get a 2nd and a team out of a bind.

    Wish the Bears with all of their cap space had this foresight and a shot at JG. Instead we go from Cutler to Mike effing Glennon

  7. Garoppolo to the Browns for the #1 overall will be Bellichek’s revenge on Cleveland for firing him way back when!

  8. This would be the most Browns thing ever. Jimmy should refuse to play in Cleveland cuz he’s going to suck something terrible there. Stay behind Brady, when the time comes you will have a successful team and franchise around you. Cleveland will ruin you.

  9. “Saw the report that they want #1 overall for garoppolo. Goodell would shut the patriots down if they somehow got garrett.”

    Lol if the Pats somehow manage to fleece the top pick out of the Browns, Goodell will be seen shortly thereafter being led out of NFL HQ in little white straightjacket after having started gnawing off his own extremities.

    Imagine the looks on Goodell’s, Mara’s, Irsay’s, Johnson’s, Bisciotti’s and several other owner’s faces. Can’t even imagine the vast rages that would be taken out on everyone around them.

    I can’t think of a Super Bowl winner that ever managed to get ahold of the top pick the following offseason.

  10. Worse case scenario, the Brown’s can package all those picks next year to move up to pick #1 where the QB class is suppose to be much better than this year. They can keep Osweiler this year, cut RGIII. This would save $8mil from RGIII and cut in half the $16mil they acquired with Osweiler. Thus a 2nd round pick next year and Osweiler for $8mil. Pretty smart I think and I’m not a Sasha fan!

  11. Not sure why all the hate on Garoppolo. He was highly rated coming out of college and has three years of being trained on an NFL level. He also looked great when he was in. I went to that Miami game and I was convinced that Jimmy’s got the arm and the head to be a great one. Belichick really likes him, but I guess many here know talent better than Belichick. If Bill keeps him, that tells you all you need to know about how good this kid is.

  12. Mary Kay has no insight. The question two months ago was if Jimmy was even worth a 1st rounder. Then since Celeand had a #12, that was the new standard. Now it’s #12 and some 2nds might get it done. She just makes more stuff up as she goes. All for an unknown.

  13. The Pats are taking Osweiler, with a reworked contract, Browns eat $8 million of it, plus they get (2) 2018 Browns 2nd round picks and 2018 3rd round pick! Book it!

  14. A first and a second?

    Let’s resurrect all those annual predictable columns from the expert sports writers in Boston about what a terrible GM Belichick is – yea you Borges and plenty others.

    There is nothing to say that most of this year’s trades will work out. Never is. But Belichick knows he can’t stand pat and just pay up on the current roster to remain competitive long term under the salary cap. He has the guts to take his chances too early not too late!

  15. Browns #1 & #33…and maybe 1 other.

    Plus, Jimmy G would come back and sign w/NE next season

  16. If ever given the reins to start, Garoppolo will become Osweiler 2.0.

    ONLY the Browns would give up multiple 1’s & 2’s for an UNPROVEN QB. He’s no Tom Brady.

    Garoppolo – 63-94 67% 690YDS 5TD 0INT
    Osweiler – 488-815 59.9% 5,083 26TD 22INT

    Eventually in Cleveland, Garoppolo will turn into Crappolo.

  17. If the reports are to be believed, NE gets the best corner on the market, a replacement for Bennett via trade, Harmon is staying AND they still have Garoppolo and Brissett. Browns fans complain that the team is trading for a guy with 10 quarters of first team experience; I guess they would rather have a rookie who has NO NFL experience (and may not have ever taken a snap from center) at a time when 50% of the first round QBs fail. The Browns can draw even with the Steelers and ahead of Cincinnati if they bring in a winner like Garoppolo – as time will tell – but perhaps Garoppolo will make his point in NE. Those who object remember your objections when Garoppolo wins his first SB as the starting QB for NE.

  18. .
    Where were all of the complainers when Philly and the Rams sent multiple 1st rounders plus additional picks for Goff and Wentz? Where was their body of work?

    Okay, I get it. Brown fans are willing to give up only a conditional 7th in 2020 because Garopollo sucks . So, you stick with Osweiler and RG3 and your draft picks and finish in last place for the 20th time in 20 years The Patriots will be competing for the Super Bowl again because they have averaged over 12 wins per season since 2001 . It’s not like they need the deal to be successful. Does Cleveland?
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  19. For those of you who don’t know Mary Kay one of the most drama-filled reporters in all of sports.

    Depodesta and Sashi are about “building in the draft and supplementing with Free Agency.” They made the trade to get closer to the cap floor and get picks. Their model isn’t to trade their coveted draft picks to overpay an unknown QB just because he sat behind a legend. That would put them in the same position the Texans were in to make this trade. What sort of analytics is that? If anything involving a real QB here they would look to move up in the draft and go after DeShawn or Trubisky.

    Look for them to try to get Prior down to Earth with Britt’s deal, Coleman in Hawkins old slot spot and go defense #1 and trade up for QB after RGIII and Os are cut.

  20. If the Patriots get Myles Garrett they are my pick to win the Super Bowl, the World Series, the Stanley Cup AND the NBA championship this year.

    🙂

  21. Jesus, the Pats are going to end up with the #12 pick, 1st rounder, a couple of 2s from the Browns AND another 1st rounder when they choose not to match whatever offer sheet Butler signs

    Talk about rebuilding done right….. and they are the Frrakin Reigning SB Champs
    Sheesh

  22. Miami should make the move for Osweiler and they can have two overrated QB’s compete to finish third behind New England and Buffalo

  23. If, and I mean if, Belichick is going to trade Garopolo, it will be to the Browns. The 2 first rounder asking price was just trying to drive up the market. The offer was #12 plus a second rounder in 2018. The new offer may just be #33 plus (2) 2018 second rounders. Cleveland gets to keep their draft intact this year, including both firsts. Belichick values #33 much higher than a late first round pick, because the player is controlled for 5 years instead of 4. Two second rounders next year means Belichick has major draft capital two straight years, to do his thing. Win-win.

  24. The Browns’ FO are absolute geniuses in acquiring picks and working the cap. Problem is they have no one who can evaluate talent. They may as well pull a Ditka and give their entire draft to the Pats and light a cigar.

  25. Nothing like collecting extra picks to take the bad contract a QB was given after just 7 starts, to then turn around and give picks, and likely a massive pay day, to a QB who’s only started 3 games.

    There would be something so Browns about that.

  26. Pats14 says:
    Mar 9, 2017 5:58 PM
    Knowing how Bill Belichick thinks, Pats will probably keep Garoppolo and get two #1’s and two #2’s for Brady next year. Chess vs checkers.

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    ^^^This. If Garoppolo is a franchise QB, Belichick will keep him. If he trades him then he is not.

  27. If I’m a GM, and I don’t have a good QB, I would give the farm away for one that can be a top 10 QB.

    The Browns (or the Jags, or the Texans, or the Jets, or the etc) can draft DE’s, RB’s and CB’s all day, but only a top 10 QB gets you the Lombardi.

    Jimmy G is NOT your average Patriots back-up QB. He is, by all insider accounts of his ability, and by proving it on the field, a potential Top 10.

    I’d give two 1’s AND a 2 for that possibility.

  28. “The fact that the Browns will pay a quarterback they don’t even want $16 million this year will…”

    Look, if you’re gonna trade for and pay a player 16 million, you sure as heck had better want him.

    But this is the Browns we’re talking about, so…

  29. If I were Jimmy G I’d stay in New England for another year, get the franchise tag that they’ll inevitably slap on him – Love my Tommy but he’s gettin’ old and anything can happy. Jimmy G in BB’s system will keep that Pats dominant for many years to come. BB wants to stick around Post Brady just to prove he can win one without Tommy.

    Brown is the color of poo and always will be.

  30. .
    Since 2001 the Browns have won 82 games. New England has won 186. Yet Browns fans continually trash the Patriots roster. Reminder : Cleveland won a single game last year while the Patriots won their fifth Super Bowl in 15 years. Go swing a deal with Jacksonville. The Patriots don’t need you.
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  31. Browns chortling about the stupidity of Houston paying a guy who only had 7 career starts in a QB friendly system, happily go the chopping block for a guy with 2 career starts in a QB friendly system. Because they’re the Browns, that’s why.

  32. All of the terrible teams should “trade” Cap space for picks until they are good enough to use that cap space for players.

    Insane as it sounds, the Browns are ahead of the curve in this regard.

  33. Browns = Desperate suckers, being played by the Cheats propaganda machine. If you’re going to give up a 1st and 2nd rounder there are much better QB choices out there than a backup QB who’s only played 3 games.

  34. If you were sure to get a franchise QB (let’s say there have only been 5 the last 5 years: Brady, Brees, AR, Ben, and Manning) just starting their career you should trade the entire year’s draft board for them.

  35. But wait…Last week Adam Shefter reported that the Patriots would hold onto Garoppolo.

  36. Garoppolo to the Browns for the #1 overall will be Bellichek’s revenge on Cleveland for firing him way back when!
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    The Cleveland Browns did not fire him ……. The Baltimore Ravens fired him……. please don’t let the facts get in the way of your great zinger!!

  37. Don’t blink Cleveland, the price will come down, if not you have enough picks over the next two yrs to find a QB…. you can count on one hand the # of games Garoppolo has played in don’t give up the farm….no more than a 2nd round pick, your bidding against yourself….the Pats will take what they get come draft day.

  38. When Garappolo becomes a top 12 QB, are all you yahoos gonna change your usernames or just disappear completely. I hope a lot of you are steeler and Ravens fans. We shall see.

  39. Garoppolo looks like the real deal to me. Was drafted higher than Cassel, Homer and Mallett and was being groomed to replace Brady. He surpassed Romo’s records at E. Illinois. Has great size, poise and intelligence. Add all that to the weak QB crop in the draft and it’s a perfect storm for the Patriots. Sell high.

  40. pigskinjunkie66 says:
    Mar 9, 2017 6:51 PM
    But wait…Last week Adam Shefter reported that the Patriots would hold onto Garoppolo.
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    Last week, they had every intention of keeping Garoppolo. The Browns and Bears were making lame offers and not in the ball park of getting a guy like Garoppolo. A drastic change in the market has a funny way of changing circumstances and getting deals done. A second round pick would be an insult to Garoppolo. He WAS a second round pick and the Patriots invested three years getting him NFL game ready. He beat Arizona on the road and lit up Miami. He’s game ready. These kids who will get drafted in the first round don’t even understand the NFL game. To Belichick, if he values his own guy more than you do, he won’t trade you that guy. That’s good business.

  41. So what is Cleveland’s fallback strategy if they don’t get Garappolo? Play Osweiler? Terrelle Pryor? Sounds like a high wire act without a net to me.

  42. desertviking64 says:
    Mar 9, 2017 6:46 PM

    Remember how good Matt Cassel was in NE.
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    Cassel didn’t even take any snaps in college at USC. Was a Kate rounder and a project. Still was developed into a decent NFL starter. Garoppolo was picked in the 2nd round and broke all Tony Romo’s records in college. No comparison.

  43. packmangamble says:
    Mar 9, 2017 5:58 PM

    Don’t be stupid and give away a first and a second for a QB who has hardly played any football.

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    It seems that many arm chair managers have this notion that if you save your draft picks you can draft players out of college that already have a resume of several years of NFL experience.

  44. If the patriots really believed Garrapolo was THAT good, no package of draft picks could get them to part with him — they’re not moving someone they think would be hard to replace. The pats know they can fleece the browns for a glimmer of hope. The smart play for any GM is to fight the urge to commit career suicide, leave Garrapolo in NE another season, and see what they do next year. They’ll either have to pay him big money (if they really think he’s worth it), or they’ll have to let him go. And get nothing in return. No draft picks.

  45. Nothing like collecting extra picks to take the bad contract a QB was given after just 7 starts, to then turn around and give picks, and likely a massive pay day, to a QB who’s only started 3 games.

    There would be something so Browns about that.

    .
    Not quite as brilliant as going into a season with all the experience of Seimian and Lynch, No OLine or running gm, and being surprised Denver didn’t make the playoffs. Now they have to hope they get a broken down, 37 yr old TRomo who I think has won 2 career playoff gms, so they have some chance next yr. BRILLIANT, I SAY!

  46. No. They’re not.

    No one is trading a 1st for Garropollo. Sorry, Patriot fans. I’m skeptical that anyone would trade a high 2. Especially not with the level of talent in this draft, one of the best of the last 20 years.

    I find it ironic all of the analysts and fans trashing the Glennon deal, yet he didn’t cost a single draft pick. He’s also significantly bigger with a stronger arm. People talk about Garoppolo having some sort of special attribute because he’s been on the Patriots roster this whole time. But I think that’s actually a detriment. Whatever they’re doing in NE, it’s obviously working. But do you think that will be the same in Cleveland? Do you think their organization has the same level of structure as NE’s? Do they have the same level of coaches breaking down film and gameplanning? The same talent to surround him? What happens when he goes from one of the best organization in the league to arguably one of the worst ?

    NE will hold onto Jimmy G as a cheap backup for one more year, then get a compensatory 3rd when he signs as a FA next year.

    Cleveland will be happy to improve their team in areas that won’t lead to more wins this year (an offensive line without a QB or skill players doesn’t do much good), so they are in position for one of the elite QB prospects next year, like Darnold or Rosen.

  47. 3 games of NFL staring experience is still more NFL starting experience than anyone that the Browns can draft.

    Browns in great position: Trade for Jimmy or, if not, start Brock and stink again to get another number 1 overall pick next year.

  48. I say offer #12 and one of their 2nds this year plus one of their 2018 seconds.

    They don’t have to pay Garapolo anything right now, he’s still under a cheap rookie contract. They could even keep Brock as backup and the total cost of the QB position would be right around $20 million.

    Then they could cut Brock next year, take no hit, and franchise Garopolo.

  49. I really hope the browns just keep their draft picks and build besides over paying for a backup QB with limited exposure to the fire. I’m not saying Garoppolo will be terrible but you will always over pay for a Patriot player. The true kings of the deal those Patriots. Gotta respect it…

  50. stevebowl says:
    Mar 9, 2017 7:07 PM
    desertviking64 says:
    Mar 9, 2017 6:46 PM
    Remember how good Matt Cassel was in NE.
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    Cassel didn’t even take any snaps in college at USC. Was a Kate rounder and a project. Still was developed into a decent NFL starter. Garoppolo was picked in the 2nd round and broke all Tony Romo’s records in college. No comparison.
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    The fact that Garopollo broke Romo’s records at Eastern IL isn’t any kind of indicator how Garropolo will do in the NFL. Take a look at the career NCAA leaders in yardage or TD passes, for instance: Not a Hall-of-Famer among them, and you’d want very few of them ever starting for your team.

  51. Personally I say keep JG. If BB convinces the Browns to give up the number one and a number two don’t ya just know Goodell and his little band of half a dozen slimy owners will be screaming at Cleveland “Don’t do it! Don’t you bleeping dare do it!!” Best part is it’s Cleveland and we all know darned well they would make the deal.

  52. geemoney9 says:
    Mar 9, 2017 6:58 PM

    This guys gonna be a bust just like Matt cassel, I’m sure of it
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    Cassel went 11-5 replacing Brady. Then went on to a Pro Bowl season. For a guy who never took a snap in college behind Matt freakin Leinart and who after 10 seasons is still on an NFL roster I’d say he’s been anything but a bust.

  53. wib22 says:
    Mar 9, 2017 5:56 PM
    Saw the report that they want #1 overall for garoppolo. Goodell would shut the patriots down if they somehow got garrett.

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    Roger can’t do a thing about it. It would be a fair trade. If CLE used it to take the top QB it would be worse than picking Jimmy G at this point.

  54. The Browns have to be nuts if they’re dealing a 1st-round pick away to the Pats for Garropolo.

    Draft talent, load up on picks if they can, and upgrade the overall talent level of the squad…go 2-14 and hope there’s a stud qb at the top of the draft next season.

  55. mrclutch5569 says:
    Mar 9, 2017 7:40 PM
    I really hope the browns just keep their draft picks and build besides over paying for a backup QB with limited exposure to the fire. I’m not saying Garoppolo will be terrible but you will always over pay for a Patriot player. The true kings of the deal those Patriots. Gotta respect it…

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    Cleveland are going to use the number one or number 12 on a QB anyway and the QB class is weak. They need somebody good.

    The Patriots wouldn’t be giving him away if they thought that they could sign him next year. They likely cannot.

  56. bullcharger says:

    Cleveland are going to use the number one or number 12 on a QB anyway and the QB class is weak. They need somebody good.

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    And there’s no evidence Garoppolo is as good as those top picks even in a weak class.

  57. I think this trade is going to happen, and it will be a heist. The Pats are going to be swimming in draft picks.It will be like the Hershel Walker trade years back. BB is a mechanic.

  58. maestro1899 says:
    Mar 9, 2017 7:27 PM
    No. They’re not.

    No one is trading a 1st for Garropollo. Sorry, Patriot fans. I’m skeptical that anyone would trade a high 2. Especially not with the level of talent in this draft, one of the best of the last 20 years.

    I find it ironic all of the analysts and fans trashing the Glennon deal, yet he didn’t cost a single draft pick. He’s also significantly bigger with a stronger arm. People talk about Garoppolo having some sort of special attribute because he’s been on the Patriots roster this whole time. But I think that’s actually a detriment. Whatever they’re doing in NE, it’s obviously working. But do you think that will be the same in Cleveland? Do you think their organization has the same level of structure as NE’s? Do they have the same level of coaches breaking down film and gameplanning? The same talent to surround him? What happens when he goes from one of the best organization in the league to arguably one of the worst ?

    NE will hold onto Jimmy G as a cheap backup for one more year, then get a compensatory 3rd when he signs as a FA next year.

    Cleveland will be happy to improve their team in areas that won’t lead to more wins this year (an offensive line without a QB or skill players doesn’t do much good), so they are in position for one of the elite QB prospects next year, like Darnold or Rosen.

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    Mike Glennon? Really?

    Garoppolo can go through his progressions quickly, is very accurate, has a very quick release and throws a nice deep ball. Plus he is pretty mobile.

    Glennon stinks

  59. steelercrazy says:
    Mar 9, 2017 8:34 PM

    And there’s no evidence Garoppolo is as good as those top picks even in a weak class.
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    There is some preseason film and regular season film showing Garoppolo playing against NFL defenders at the speed of the NFL. And he broke Romo’s records while in college.

    The majority of the defenders that played against those top picks are still in college or are selling insurance or selling cars.

  60. The Browns will more likely sign Jay Cutler rather than waste a 1st and 2nd rounder on a backup. Sorry Pats fans, unlikely this deal will happen.

  61. What exactly has j g ever done.time is running out for the cheats.they will be just like the 49ers a team that won for a long time.partially because they cheated .then they will suck for 30 years.

  62. Brock Osweiler is a better QB than Jimmy Garoppolo. This will be really funny when Bill Belichick ends up signing Osweiler for next to nothing. Then when Brady retires, Osweiler steps in and wins a super bowl or two. OMG this is going to be hilarious.

  63. The Browns should wave a couple mid-rounders at Cincy for McCarren, the Patriots asking too much. Cincy needs the picks since their OLine disappeared today.

  64. Brock is now the King Pin of the all ski-mask team.

    They’re going to pay this dude NOT to play in Cleveland.

    Hate it for Jimmy G though. If they offer the Pats a 1st and 2nd rounder this year I’m not sure how they could say no.

  65. carrcoreyr87 says:
    Mar 9, 2017 6:06 PM
    Garoppolo to the Browns for the #1 overall will be Bellichek’s revenge on Cleveland for firing him way back when!

    ________

    You do realize that Browns were en route to Baltimore at that time.

    Probably not, but live in your alt-world.

  66. Over the years the Browns have got pretty good. Pretty good at stockpiling backup quarterbacks.

  67. Hue Jackson gave Carson Palmer a second chance at his career. Hue Jackson turned 2014 Andy Dalton into 2015 Andy Dalton. Granted, neither are superstars, but they were both much, much better after being coached by Jackson.

    If Hue sees something in a QB out there that he thinks he can work with, Cleveland should do everything they can to help him get his man.

  68. Cleveland should trade Osweiller and picks to Washington for Cousins. Get a proven qb instead of a guy with just 2 games experience.

  69. It remains to be seen if the Browns are going to get swindled by trading for a QB who hasn’t proven squat in the NFL.

    Instead, they could take a real winner like Watson in the draft and develop him within a few years. Considering his pedigree and accomplishments at the highest level of college football, they’d be nuts to chase a guy who’ll most likely be a second stringer his entire career. I just feel bad for those great fans of Cleveland.

  70. maestro1899 says:
    Mar 9, 2017 7:27 PM
    No. They’re not.

    No one is trading a 1st for Garropollo. Sorry, Patriot fans.
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    Cleveland already offered the 12th overall pick. That means it was a first rounder.

  71. Garappolo’s value will likely never be higher. Cleveland will make an offer, but it won’t be two first round picks. If we wanted to give that up we’d trade two first round picks for Cousins. If New England chooses to keep Garappolo, Cleveland will go with the QBs they have on their roster and grab a QB in the 2018 draft.

  72. Ain’t done yet……

    If y’all think Garoppolo to the Browns for maybe R1#12, R2#52 & R2-2018 is it; think again.

    Belichick will trade that #12 down twice and pick up 2 or more 2/3/5th rounders to replace that 4th stolen by God-elle.

    Bill ain’t done yet. By the time he’s done, he’ll have more picks this year than The Browns……

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