David Carr says Osweiler didn’t get enough time in Houston

Getty Images

Former Texans quarterback David Carr, the first draft pick in franchise history, got five years to make things work in Houston. Former Texans quarterback Brock Osweiler, the highest-profile free-agency acquisition in franchise history, got 20 percent of that.

Carr, who recently spoke to Osweiler, thinks the recently-traded quarterback didn’t get a fair shake.

“Gary Kubiak’s system in Denver was so different,” Carr said, via David Barron of the Houston Chronicle. “It was completely different than what Bill [O’Brien] was asking him to do in Houston with the option routes and young receivers. There wasn’t enough time. I look at the guys they’ve had in Houston [under O’Brien] and they haven’t been given a lot of time. I don’t know how you get much continuity at the positon by rotating guys in so much, especially with the offense you’re running. There is a comfort level involved, and you can’t match that in 10 months.”

Carr didn’t blame O’Brien for that; instead, Carr realizes it goes with the territory in today’s NFL.

“Bill’s system works, and I don’t think he’s coaching it poorly,” Carr said. “But in the times we live, it’s going to be difficult for him to have enough patience to stick with one guy. And it’s not just the quarterback. It’s the combination of quarterback and receiver. Julian Edelman practically lives with [Brady] during the offseason. They go through game situations three times a week. How many times did Brock do that? Probably never.”

Carr didn’t disclose the things Osweiler said to Carr, but he admitted that Osweiler’s comments matched Carr’s perception as to how things went.

Of course, Osweiler’s time was limited not by his failure to quickly master the offense but by the Week 17 incident that became, as PFT reported over the weekend, the final straw for the Texans. But for that, maybe they would have seen enough from him in a wild-card win over the Raiders and a not-as-horrible-as-it-could-have-been loss to the Patriots in the divisional round to keep his $16 million on the books for 2017 (and in turn to keep their 2018 second-round pick).

22 responses to “David Carr says Osweiler didn’t get enough time in Houston

  1. Kubiak came in and said he could fix Carr so they gave him a new pile of money.

    You see how that worked out….

  2. I’m quick to jump on Osweiler but David Carr has a point. How many QBs has Bill gone through? At some point a good QB coach or Head Coach should be able to get something outta nothing. If in few years the Texans have gone through 2 or 3 more QBs .. At what point does O’Brian start to take some of the blame for the substandard production?

  3. The QB “guru” doesn’t need to give QBs time, he just needs to keep rotating through. How does a guy who was 15-9 as a college coach, and who’s put up three straight 9-7 seasons (with a great defense) and has gone through as many QBs as he has in those 3 years, still given any sort of credibility?

    I’d love to see Osweiler be great at his next stop just to show what a mediocre “QB guru” the Texans have.

  4. Stork had 4 years in Denver before he had to play significant minutes, like Garoppolo in NE. Once they’re on their own in a new system it’s a different ballgame. Blaine Gabbert is far better than either of them but he’s had to learn a new system every season in the league. 7 head coaches in 6 seasons. 7 position coaches, 4 general managers, 3 team owners.

  5. Was it Osweiler that couldn’t cover Edelman? Was it Osweiler who struggled to flip the field position during punt and kick returns? The defensive front of the Texans played a great game but to beat a team like the Patriots at home, in the playoffs, you need a lot more than that. You need good special teams play, good secondary play, and good offense. Even if Osweiler played the greatest game of his life, it would not have been enough. That’s on the coaching. O’Brien is just not a good head coach. The sooner the Texans realize that the better off they’ll be.

  6. When the ticket prices go UP in Houston the fans will refill the owners pockets and the ego of the general manager will be restored.

  7. Those of you agreeing with Carr need to think about something. Brock had accuracy problems. Yes his line at times was lacking but there were other times that he was just plain off target.

  8. One year starting isn’t enough for most quarterbacks. We can complain about the lack of great quarterback play, but few teams will take the time to stick with a guy and groom him. On the other hand some coaches get five more years than they should have. Jeff Fisher and the guy in Cincinnati come to mind.

  9. I hope my browns don’t keep him he looked like a dog with its tail inbetween it’s legs in houston (not that bill obrien is some qb guru) idk whats worse obrien not Learning his lesson with qbs or osweilers performance. I don’t think brock deserved to be carried by the 2 top notch defenses that did. he will he exposed in cleveland if they hold on to him even more than on the texans lol

  10. I agree with Carr! Normally it takes a QB in a new system a year to adjust to the offense and his WRs. It was crazy to expect Brock to come into O’Briens offense and not have some growing pains. The offense that Brock ran in Denver was totally different.

  11. Agree with poster number 1: Time is not an option when you get paid $18M/year. Better produce quick. Bill O’brien is not a good coach. I thought he was a QB guru. If they get Romo and can’t make the AFC conference final then he must be fired. Lastly David Carr should shut his mouth, he was a massive failure as an NFL QB. He has no credibility .

  12. O’brien is a lousy coach. If they get Romo and can’t make it to the AFC Conference Final then he needs to go. Poster number 1 is correct, time is not an option if you’re paid $18M/year, a lot more hungrier QB’s out there can come cheaper and leave for elsewhere when the time is right. Mr. Carr is not an expert on QB’s, he wasn’t good at all in the NFL. Now if he wants to talk about the college game that’s something else. He has no business talking about the pro game.

  13. I don’t buy the confrontation in week 17 as the last straw for Osweiler. If it was a problem they would started somebody else vs. the Raiders in the playoffs even if it was another guy at a different position. It’s all about money. they didn’t want to pay Osweiler the $16M sitting in the bench while not only he sulks but only Savage who’s getting paid less. It’s all about preventing a locker room disaster.

  14. patsfan4lifesbchamps says:
    Mar 15, 2017 6:18 PM

    Was it Osweiler that couldn’t cover Edelman? Was it Osweiler who struggled to flip the field position during punt and kick returns? The defensive front of the Texans played a great game but to beat a team like the Patriots at home, in the playoffs, you need a lot more than that. You need good special teams play, good secondary play, and good offense. Even if Osweiler played the greatest game of his life, it would not have been enough. That’s on the coaching. O’Brien is just not a good head coach. The sooner the Texans realize that the better off they’ll be.
    ——————————————————-
    Pats fans are hilarious.

    It was a one-score game in the 4th quarter and your QB hands the ball over to the Patriots twice deep in their own territory on stupid throws and stupid decisions. You’re not going to beat Jacksonville that way, let alone the Patriots. The fact that O’Brien has had the crap QB’s he’s had and yet the team has had a winning record every year is proof that he can coach and his team plays hard for him. The bevy of QB’s is more from the GM wanting to just put in stopgaps rather than developing anyone.

  15. O’Brien runs a complex system-this we know.

    Osweiler and O’Brien never met and discussed anything prior to signing-this we know.

    Osweiler and O’Brien did not get along at all, even prior to the Week 17 altercation-this we know.

    O’Brien has gone through many different QBs, either due to injury or poor play-this we know.

    With all of this in mind, I don’t think it’s hard to accept that Osweiler and the Texans failed on offense because of how O’Brien and Osweiler understood each other, not because of how bad he is as a player. Osweiler did play poorly, let me make that clear, but what I’m saying is that all of those other facts-facts that most of think are true-make it clear to me that O’Brien and Houston’s brass mismanaged Osweiler, which did contribute in a major way to how poorly he played. Osweiler is not absolved, that’s true, but he’s not the only one to blame. O’Brien’s system is complicated and it relies on the QB being able to execute it to a T. On top of that, O’Brien does not have any patience, and does not display a willingness or ability to simplify his offense for his players. Unfortunately for him, simplifying your complex offense for new players is a major part of coaching, especially when you bring in a guy you’ve never met to run it with a group of rookie and second year recievers and a mediocre O-line.

  16. What USB this that O’Brien won’t adjust his offense to whoever is playing qb? Please explain TJ Yates and Brandon Weeden having success when their numbers were called! Savage popped in against Jacksonville and looked like a qb when it was very clear to any Texans fan watching that game that Osweiler was going to blow the game.

Leave a Reply