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Roger Goodell sends ominous letter to Oakland mayor

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There are certain words and phrases a city would prefer not to hear from NFL Commissioner Roger Goodell in the days before a critical relocation vote involving its local franchise.

Such language is now in the Oakland mayor’s possession.

Goodell reportedly sent a letter Friday to Mayor Libby Schaaf, a transmission Schaaf received after having sent the NFL her own letter in which she characterized the latest effort to keep the Raiders in Oakland as a “viable and responsible proposal.” Clearly, Goodell did not agree.

“Despite all of these efforts, ours and yours, we have not yet identified a viable solution,” Goodell said in the letter, which the East Bay Times reportedly obtained Saturday. “It is disappointing to me and our clubs to have come to that conclusion.”

Oakland and its partners submitted Friday a revised $1.3 billion development proposal that Goodell wrote is not “clear and specific, actionable in a reasonable time frame, and free of major contingencies,” according to East Bay Times.

A vote that could relocate the Raiders from Oakland to Las Vegas is expected as early as Monday at the NFL’s annual spring meeting in Phoenix. Twenty-four of the league’s 32 owners must vote in favor of the relocation for it to be approved.

It’d be the latest relocation for the league. On Jan. 12, the Chargers moved from San Diego to Los Angeles. The Rams moved from St. Louis to L.A. last year.

Goodell’s full letter has not been published in its entirety at this time, but its largest excerpt reads as follows, per the East Bay Times:

“We have been prepared for nearly two years to work on finding a solution based on access to land at a certain cost, without constraints on the location of the stadium or timing of construction, and clarity on the overall development,” Goodell wrote.

“However, at this date, there remains no certainty regarding how the site will be fully developed, or the specific and contractually-defined nature of the participation by Fortress or other parties. In addition, the long-term nature of the commitment to the A’s remains a significant complication and the resolution of that issue remains unknown.”

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  1. thegreatgabbert says: Mar 25, 2017 7:54 PM

    Then, the Raj delicately extended his hand for the Mayor to kiss.

  2. coltsreign says: Mar 25, 2017 7:54 PM

    Despite all of these efforts, ours and yours, we have not yet identified a viable solution,”

    This perfectly describes the NFL under Goodell.
    I hope the raiders don’t go because I’ve only known them in my lifetime as the “Oakland” Raiders.
    -Colts fan

  3. irimz says: Mar 25, 2017 7:57 PM

    And I’ll send this message to Rodger – IF YOU BUILD IT IN LAS VEGAS, WE WONT COME!

  4. THX 138 says: Mar 25, 2017 7:59 PM

    Say good bye.

  5. murphyslaw40 says: Mar 25, 2017 8:02 PM

    The “tl;dr” version:

    Oakland, you’re many days late, and many hundreds of millions of taxpayer dollars short.

  6. therealraider says: Mar 25, 2017 8:03 PM

    Translation: Too little, too late.

  7. YouCryin?PatsMustBeDoingTheirJob says: Mar 25, 2017 8:04 PM

    He’s an ominous guy.

  8. harrisonhits2 says: Mar 25, 2017 8:08 PM

    With the Trump cuts coming its insanity, and totally and utterly irresponsible to give the league 3/4 of a billion dollars, be it from Oakland, Vegas or anywhere else. Insanity and corruption.

    Let these scumbag billionaires build their own billion dollar palaces.

    No more welfare for billionaires !!!!!

  9. drunkraider says: Mar 25, 2017 8:09 PM

    Libby Schaaf has nobody to blame but herself for this debacle. She has done nothing but sabotage all efforts Mark Davis made for years to keep the Raiders in Oakland.

    now at the final min she is going to act like she is trying to keep the Raiders there? yeah right maybe its finally hitting her how much they will lose when the Raiders bounce.

    but yeah she didnt want to pony up the money because they need it for schools. Im sure all that money is going to schools right Libby? thats why Oakland has such top notch schools?

    I wished they would stay but i can see at this point Mark giving them the middle finger and leaving. he tried and tried. and in the end better Vegas than LA.

  10. jackedupboonie says: Mar 25, 2017 8:09 PM

    If only stern gave Seattle this much of an opportunity….well I guess giving your good friend a team to take to Bedbug city is different

  11. knew8411 says: Mar 25, 2017 8:10 PM

    The city of Oakland has had a good long time, to come up with a proposal that would be agreeable, to both parties.
    I am not a Raiders fan. That said, I believe the team needs to be fairly treated.
    These cities think that the NFL, and the team owes them….that is simply not the case, and with the stadium lease done…..it is time for the city to show the Raiders, that they want the team to stay in place, and not by offering some vague, last minute offer, that the team is forced to reply to, in a short amount of time.
    This should of been done months ago.
    To me the Raiders will always be “Oakland Raiders”. But this may teach some of these cities that these teams can do OK elsewhere.
    As for the stadium costs….it has been shown over time, that these stadiums generate more revenue that just that provided by the NFL team in question (ask Minneapolis (SB LII, NCAA final 4 etc.).

  12. lscottman3 says: Mar 25, 2017 8:12 PM

    Hey Raider fans, welcome to the we hate Godell club

    Patriot fans

  13. cribbage12 says: Mar 25, 2017 8:13 PM

    Screw you Roger.

  14. patfanken says: Mar 25, 2017 8:17 PM

    What Goodell SHOULD have written in his letter was this: “Hey, the (corrupt) state of Nevada, just gave us $750MM in taxpayer dollars to build this stadium. You know no other municipality in the country, let alone California, is going to match that.

    You should know by now that fan loyalty, tradition, and certainly not integrity is what moves the NFL. We follow the dollar’s, sweatheart. Your city and state wouldn’t help pay for our personal playground, and now you are going to lose it.

    When are you going to learn. We are the NFL. We do what we want, whenever we want and are ultimately NEVER accountable to any laws, regulations, or even the laws of phyisics

    Thank you for thinking of us, and don’t forget to buy your pink breast cancer jersey on NFL shop.com (we make a lot of money on those too.).

  15. learysdisciples says: Mar 25, 2017 8:18 PM

    So what you’re saying is that there is still a chance?

  16. ariani1985 says: Mar 25, 2017 8:18 PM

    Will roger fleece the fan base with fake stock? Only time will tell!

  17. BIGGSHAUN says: Mar 25, 2017 8:19 PM

    In other words “you haven’t offered us enough money.”

  18. nyneal says: Mar 25, 2017 8:22 PM

    If I were Mayor Schaaf, I’d tell Goodell and the Raiders to kiss her behind and don’t let the door hit them on the way out.
    The Raiders have treated Oakland like second citizens for years, having moved once already to Los Angeles.
    I’m sick of these NFL teams, with all their billions of dollars, trying to force these already strapped cities to come up with money they don’t have by sticking it to the tax payers even more.
    If the NFL wants the Raiders to remain in Oakland, fine. Let them put up the money to build a new stadium and all the accompanying infrastructure. They can certainly afford it.
    Face it. The NFL doesn’t give a damn about Oakland or any other city. They just want to line their pockets more.
    Let Las Vegas have the Raiders. It’s the perfect location for the players to live the night life, which is most important to many of them anyway.

  19. fanfrommontreal says: Mar 25, 2017 8:26 PM

    Dispite all efforts, ours and yours, Rodger?
    Your “effort” was to ask for freebees from public money or else!
    Such a little man…

  20. patsfan says: Mar 25, 2017 8:28 PM

    “Dear Mr. Mayor.

    I will sic ted Wells and Exponent on you. I can pay them to, er, I believe we can tie you to that Hoffa thing.

    PS. Where were you when the Archduke was assassinated.

    Your pal,
    Rog.”

  21. seanx40 says: Mar 25, 2017 8:28 PM

    The city of Oakland has been promising to help with a new stadium since the 1970s. The Raiders left once. Then were lured back with the promise of a new stadium. Decades later, still no stadium. The Raiders are completely right to leave. If some city is dumb enough to spend hundreds of millions to lure them, the Raiders would be stupid not to take it.

  22. jerseyraider says: Mar 25, 2017 8:39 PM

    It is what it is… I don’t blame the city of Oakland. They certainly have bigger issues than providing a home for a football team, and the lack of an ability to fund it was obvious. I don’t blame the Raiders organization. They’ve been sharing a rundown, sewage infested hellhole with a professional baseball team leading to a dirt field for the first 6 weeks of every season. I don’t blame Las Vegas or the state of Nevada. They believed that the addition of an NFL team would add value to its citizens and businesses and worked out a financing arrangement that they felt they could live with. It is what it is… Welcome to the Las Vegas Raiders.

  23. alonestartexan says: Mar 25, 2017 8:42 PM

    patfanken says:
    Mar 25, 2017 8:17 PM
    What Goodell SHOULD have written in his letter was this: “Hey, the (corrupt) state of Nevada, just gave us $750MM in taxpayer dollars to build this stadium. You know no other municipality in the country, let alone California, is going to match that.
    ——-

    I’d be willing to bet that if the NFL at this point said they guaranteed they’d give a team to St. Louis, San Diego, San Antonio, Birmingham, Memphis, Orlando, Columbus, Portland, or any other metropolitan area if they produced $750M for a stadium, all of the above would find a way.

    Hell, St. Louis’s first offer to the Rams was a $750M complete renovation of the Edward Jones Dome.

  24. lurch61 says: Mar 25, 2017 8:42 PM

    irimz says:
    Mar 25, 2017 7:57 PM
    And I’ll send this message to Rodger – IF YOU BUILD IT IN LAS VEGAS, WE WONT COME!
    *******************************
    Yeah we will!
    Signed,
    Long time raider fan living in Vegas

  25. denverdave3 says: Mar 25, 2017 8:44 PM

    Ye hypocrites, ye.

    We say we hate the billionaires yet we support their enterprises.

    The riotousness rings hallow lest we run off the games once and for all.

  26. maust1013 says: Mar 25, 2017 8:46 PM

    I particularly enjoyed the wording in the latest non-proposal proposal that Fortress would provide the financing on the same terms that Bank of America is for Vegas even though they have no idea what those terms are.

  27. RandyinRoxbury says: Mar 25, 2017 8:48 PM

    When will Roger apologize to the great TB?
    Like judge Smales said in Caddyshack……..
    “Well we’re waiting!”

  28. ariani1985 says: Mar 25, 2017 8:53 PM

    Notice that buffalo doesn’t get these letters?

  29. mistercue62 says: Mar 25, 2017 8:53 PM

    Libby Scaaf is so completely full of s#%t! The vague “proposal” to ostensibly keep the Raiders in Oakland which she waited until the last possible second to submit to the NFL should have been submitted practically verbatim 2 years ago! This isn’t a meticulous & comprehensive proposal at all; rather it is a fairly general starting point for long-term negotiations disguised as a final solution. Shafa has either completely ignored Davis and the Raiders or has blocked their attempts at serious negotiation at virtually every turn and opportunity, apparently believing that the team was bluffing with it’s threats to uproot the franchise and relocate it to Sin City, further choosing to do essentially nothing (including a long-standing definitive refusal to commit a single dime of taxpayer revenues to the construction of a new facility) once she began to finally realize that the Raiders meant business, evidently convinced that the NFL would never approve the relocation of any of it’s teams to the gambling capital of the world. And now that she’s been caufpght with her pants down ;so to speak), she’s pathetically finger-pointing & deflecting her own culpability, publically preaching her latest mantra “this is THEIR decision, not mine…I tried everything I could to keep the Raiders in Oakland!”

    Absolute nonsense! For once Goodell is right…her so-called “proposal” is nothing more than a beefed–up, floral-scented reworking of the Lott proposal which the league had long ago summarily rejected for, among other glaring shortcomings, it’s lack of specifics regarding revenue distribution, ownership, clarity concerning just what exactly “multi-use” facility would entail and most importantly, how the Athletics will factor in to the stadium and it’s property.

    This is nothing more than an incompetent mayor transparently attempting to save her reputation and subsequently, her political career. I for one hate the fact that the Raiders appear destined to leave Oakland but it became apparent to me well over a year ago that the current political administration in that booming metropolis was never going to work with the Raiders on a new stadium, something that’s at least a decade overdue; rather they expected the Raiders to remain indefinitely in that dilapidated, disintegrating, glorified toilet indefinitely while continuing to pay exorbitant rent for the privilege!

    Good luck in the next election Scaaf in a Raider-less Oakland! Win or lose (and I strongly suspect it will overwhelmingly be the latter), you’ll forever be known as “The Mayor Who Lost the Raiders”.

    Nice going!

  30. jander05 says: Mar 25, 2017 8:55 PM

    Maybe someone needs to remind the NFL of the trust exempt status they enjoy when they use their power and exclusivity to uproot a franchise from a cities that have been key in allowing them to enjoy their success.

    This is BS. NFL cities make up an entire fan base for the NFL franchise and when their ratings are down these are the kinds of things that can push people away even further.

    I’m not for a franchise getting the shaft by any city but when public tax dollars are being used to pay for stadiums while these billionaires rake it in, there isn’t something right about that.

  31. RyanToCollinsAndBrown says: Mar 25, 2017 8:56 PM

    Hey, NFL: If building a billion dollar stadium in Oakland (or anywhere else) is such a smart financial endeavor, why aren’t the the owners doing it on their own? Why insist on taxpayer involvement? Buy the land, wrestle some tax breaks, and then have at it you brilliant entrepreneurs! The world is your oyster. If it’s a sure thing, it’s still a sure thing whether or not you’re using OPM. In fact, several of you have done it or are in the process of doing it.

    Or could it be that erecting a giant building to be used a guaranteed minimum 8 to a maximum 14 times a year isn’t as risk- free as you suggest? That your business model is now ridiculous because it requires a god-awful expensive physical plant just to present some occasional entertainment that is now more comfortably viewed from home? That it’s too hard to justify when a baseball facility is less expensive to build and maintain even if it’s used 80 times a year?

    In other words, maybe you’ve just priced yourselves out of most municipal markets?

  32. throwingstones20 says: Mar 25, 2017 8:57 PM

    It would be very disappointing if the Raiders leave Oakland. They have a great fan base there. Hopefully something can be worked out so they don’t leave. From a Patriots fan.

  33. youknowiknowitall says: Mar 25, 2017 8:58 PM

    I love professional football but I sure hate the (greedy) NFL.

  34. curtj5 says: Mar 25, 2017 8:58 PM

    What a clown. The NFL should disband and the teams should operate as private corporations.

  35. jasons81 says: Mar 25, 2017 8:58 PM

    (Drops mic)

  36. ricko1112 says: Mar 25, 2017 8:59 PM

    “So, let’s make up another way to blame this on NE and steal 2 more draft picks!”

  37. curtj5 says: Mar 25, 2017 9:00 PM

    You know. Oakland isnt really a rich town. The ticket buyers mostly arrive from the surrounding rich towns.

  38. deneb1973 says: Mar 25, 2017 9:01 PM

    Maybe facts will clarify the invective: Oakland is proposing the Raiders forgo $700 million CONTRIBUTION to a $1.9 billion (Nevada value)stadium for a LOAN (according to some commentators – Breer) presumably secured by team ownership on SIMILAR Conditions to the BoA financing in Nevada for a $1.3 billion (California value) stadium. The mayor of Oakland is trying to dress up a pig and say it’s a super model – and Goodell called her on it. The superior position of the A’s in Oakland is not even addressed! While I share the disdain of most commentators for Goodell he is correct that this “offer” is nothing more than a political smokescreen designed to influence the less astute owners into hamstringing the Raiders – now and into the future. The letter apparently had none of the contractual conditions, land use permits, etc. The City of Oakland has just been betrayed by their elected officials. If the owners buy it, they’re buying into an anti-trust lawsuit that will destroy the current business structure of the current NFL.

  39. i10east says: Mar 25, 2017 9:07 PM

    Call them the California/Nevada Raiders; play one game in OAK to keep them satisfied, kinda like the Packers used to play in Milwaukee. Voila problem solved!!

  40. JSpicoli says: Mar 25, 2017 9:08 PM

    Call me when they stop negotiating.

  41. radrntn says: Mar 25, 2017 9:09 PM

    Well one thing we all know is Roger is just an employee- it really comes down to the owners who get to split the relocation fee among themselves

  42. mheader says: Mar 25, 2017 9:13 PM

    Viva Las Vegas!

  43. President Ackbar says: Mar 25, 2017 9:13 PM

    No other city wants the Bills.

  44. thepopefromtv says: Mar 25, 2017 9:14 PM

    I live in Las Vegas and I love the Raiders, but the taxpayers gain nothing for footing a bill to line more pockets of millionaires and billionaires.

    I will love the Raiders regardless of where they reside, but I prefer they pay for their own stadium and don’t use Adelson as an excuse to bilk taxpayers of their money.

  45. twoteamsforlosangeles says: Mar 25, 2017 9:21 PM

    I think I saw Roger and Libby singing “Two Faces Have I” together. ..Just move, baby!

  46. akboot says: Mar 25, 2017 9:39 PM

    harrisonhits2 says:
    Mar 25, 2017 8:08 PM

    harrisonhits2 says:
    Mar 25, 2017 8:08 PM

    With the Trump cuts coming its insanity, and totally and utterly irresponsible to give the league 3/4 of a billion dollars, be it from Oakland, Vegas or anywhere else. Insanity and corruption.

    Let these scumbag billionaires build their own billion dollar palaces.

    No more welfare for billionaires !!!!!

    65-10
    —————————————–
    Ha, we know at least 10 owners were here.

  47. pilingon57 says: Mar 25, 2017 9:39 PM

    Hey Rog how do you feel for Oakland still on the hook for around 100 million for the stadium the Raiders remodeled?

  48. zaphod424242 says: Mar 25, 2017 9:50 PM

    Buh-bye.

  49. eroschmidt says: Mar 25, 2017 10:07 PM

    This perfectly describes the NFL under Goodell.
    I hope the raiders don’t go because I’ve only known them in my lifetime as the “Oakland” Raiders.
    -Colts fan

    ——————————————————–

    You’re young, buts it’s not Goodell – it’s the owners. Go to Baltimore and ask anyone over 50 about “your” Colts….

  50. babygaga19 says: Mar 25, 2017 10:12 PM

    Libby + proposal = cya political cover

  51. jayhawk6 says: Mar 25, 2017 10:18 PM

    Just how much longer does Roger Goodell think that the NFL can continue to act like Donald Trump?

    It is the fan base in cities like Oakland that has allowed the NFL to grow to gargantuan dimensions. It is likely to ultimately choke on this Las Vegas debacle and it will be sorely deserved.

  52. babygaga19 says: Mar 25, 2017 10:20 PM

    Libby, dont cry. The Raiders will come running home in a couple years with their tails tucked. It’s The Raider Way! Am I lying?

  53. thrifty says: Mar 25, 2017 10:20 PM

    The raiders deserve to lose. Their fans deserve far better.

  54. jjfootball says: Mar 25, 2017 10:21 PM

    Libby Schaaf is just trying to make it look like she tried, when we all know she didn’t.
    Oakland has nobody to blame but that idiot Libby Schaaf!

  55. mousietongue says: Mar 25, 2017 10:21 PM

    It’s just football….. How ominus could it be??? Perspective people….

  56. jjfootball says: Mar 25, 2017 10:22 PM

    RAIDERS RULE WHERE EVER THEY PLAY!

  57. 1pavikingfan says: Mar 25, 2017 10:23 PM

    In the mafia community it’s called a “shake down”. The fans make the game great. Sadly the NFL has forgotten.

  58. murfdeezy says: Mar 25, 2017 10:28 PM

    This type of “business” practice is nothing more than short sighted cash grabbing. I think these smug billionaires are grossly underestimating the “cash value” of loyalty. You don’t build a fan base over night, and they don’t simply materialize in your new locations. They also are not promised to travel with you, so you can go pick up your check. My point is that if you keep relocating teams to chase stadium money, eventually there will be far less, if any, emotional attachments to NFL franchises. Once that goes, so do the merchandise sales, the “regular (non millionaire)” ticket sales, and your bankable game day viewership. Sell all the corporate suites and PSLs that you want. They won’t support your teams or your franchises. They are hollow partnerships…because they are just in it for the money…like you, and the rest of the good ol’ boys Roger.

    It’s a shame. I’m a Raiders fan living in RI. I’ve never even been there, but Vegas still won’t feel the same. Also, maybe if they weren’t a disgrace for 15 years, they would be dirt poor and scrambling. That’s not the city of Oaklands fault. Now they start winning and sell themselves as contenders to another city? Nobody was kicking down that door when Oakland stood by them. See if that happens in Vegas. Better hope they don’t slump…like ever! That’s when you can measure your loyalty dollars.

  59. phaktor333 says: Mar 25, 2017 10:31 PM

    Can someone tell me what sustainable, non gambling industries exist in Vegas? In order to build and cultivate a fan base, I’d figure that you’d need to be able to forecast exactly who these people are and how many of them will be around for the long haul. Yes, the tourists would come, but you can’t build a tradition around transient people. Also, what happens when the bottom falls out, ownership goes the way of the 49ers example, the team doesn’t win and Jamarcus Russell’s son is at the top of the draft board in 20 years?

  60. rootpain says: Mar 25, 2017 10:35 PM

    Doesn’t matter. With free agency, there is no such thing as team/player loyalty anymore. And that’s in spite of the fact that only the Patriots have really learned how to play that game.
    It’s disgusting at every level. You have blog posters that only care about clicks. You have owners who only care about revenue streams. You have municipal politicians that only care about augmenting the retirement find. You have blog posters who are faux SJW who only care about today’s issues so long as they can be turned into clicks. And you have fans that are generationally polarized, with the newest ones not really caring who they are rooting for.
    It’s just all too much for a lousy 19 games a year.

  61. sopadegato says: Mar 25, 2017 10:39 PM

    Goodell’s “at a certain cost” means “We want it cheap, and the taxpayers get to foot most of the cost”.

  62. dawoger says: Mar 25, 2017 10:42 PM

    The Raiders should pack up and move to minisoda. They’ve already bilked the idiot citizens for a billion dollar monument to their stupidity. All their in need of now is a professional football team!

  63. tonebones says: Mar 25, 2017 10:42 PM

    The mayor is just to stay employed so there is a last minute PR stunt that Goodell isn’t buying

  64. Slapshot says: Mar 25, 2017 10:43 PM

    Mayor Schaaf and the taxpaying citizens of Oakland got the best of the deal. They did not fund a new stadium that the greedy owners and league refused to do. Let the Raiders go to Nevada . . . good riddance.

  65. charger383 says: Mar 25, 2017 10:44 PM

    Goodell did something I like, I am not sure how to act

  66. babygaga19 says: Mar 25, 2017 10:47 PM

    OMG, fan boys! Goodell is now telling the mayor of Oaktown to F it. We must super hate him now. This is terrible! Roger has ruined our lives, yes?

  67. pilingon57 says: Mar 25, 2017 10:57 PM

    I can’t wait to hear the fans who say they will follow the raiders to Vegas when the flights go up and the hotels cost more start whining. This smells. At least Jerry Jones will win when his company builds the stadium.

  68. xavier179 says: Mar 25, 2017 11:22 PM

    Has anyone considered why type of pull the Las Vegas Mob has on the outcome?

  69. denverscott says: Mar 25, 2017 11:53 PM

    It takes a special kind of person to twist this around to make this move Goodells fault. There seems to be a lot of special Raiders fans.

  70. snnyjcbs says: Mar 26, 2017 12:22 AM

    You would think such a rich and large market as Oakland keeps telling folks they are would have been able to come up with a few dollars. They do not spend on police, schools or firefighters.

    Vegas is deep pockets and will give the Raiders one of the best stadiums in the NFL. Only time you hear anything out of Oakland is when news breaks on Vegas. This has been a done deal for awhile. The great part for NV is it is the tourists that will flip the bill, some of the 40 million folks that come to Vegas from around the World each year.

  71. sorosbolshevism says: Mar 26, 2017 12:25 AM

    Las Vegas Raiders sounds as crappy as Indianapolis Colts. The glory days of the Raiders will belong to Oakland just as the glory days of the Colts still belongs to Baltimore! Just finish it already Goodell–Memphis Steelers…San Antonio Giants…Utah Dolphins…Portland Eagles??? You are annoying the fan base to the point of indifference!

  72. bucnasty says: Mar 26, 2017 1:16 AM

    It’s sad it’s all about big business in the end the NFL doesn’t care about the fan they care about the dollar point proven with the rams / chargers I really hope all the recent moves fail seeing it all happened out of greed and lately with the fantasy gambling it’s really turning the game into a gambling format almost like horse racing and Jerry jones and Robert craft are big contributiors to draft kings weird how there franchises are among the top I just think it’s time for a big change at commissioner a new guy that the owner don’t have in there back pocket some one to really crack down and make the game genuine again

  73. rooneyruleblues says: Mar 26, 2017 2:14 AM

    San Diego losing the Chargers is really a disgusting thing. I cant wait for CTE to swallow the NFL, and it will. Colleges are next on the horizon for litigation, then high schools. And then football will be dead. Greed will be their demise. You cannot stop the brain from bouncing around in the skull unless you stop tackling. Enjoy it while it lasts : )

    Glorious.

  74. weege001 says: Mar 26, 2017 2:20 AM

    As a Bronco fan, I welcome our new Las Vegas Raiders. Get to drive from Phoenix to Vegas in 4.5 hours vs taking a flight to Denver..

  75. skins26portis says: Mar 26, 2017 5:08 AM

    Im a Vegas resident and not a Raider fan. I think this is great for the economy of Las Vegas and NFL fans from near by states of CA,AZ, and UT will come to watch the games. Im a Redskins fan so I can’t wait to see them play the Raiders. I just hope we don’t get that criminal Raider crowd in Vegas to cause problems. I do know that our Metro PD wont tolerate their nonsense. If you screw up in Vegas you will get slammed by the judical system. Vegas isn’t soft on crime like California. ASK OJ.

  76. omeimontis says: Mar 26, 2017 7:41 AM

    I hope they move. I get to see more games on TV. Right now, it is often either the Raiders or no other NFL games on TV on some afternoons or mornings.

  77. omeimontis says: Mar 26, 2017 7:44 AM

    I loved it when the Raiders were in LA. I got to watch more games on TV on Sundays back then.

  78. omeimontis says: Mar 26, 2017 7:47 AM

    Raider fans should know that the team does not give a rat’s rear end about them because Al Davis never apologized to the fans for moving the Raiders to LA, and he said that the reason he moved back to Oakland was because he thought the enthusiastic crowd in Oakland can mean that he will win a few more games per season.

  79. tonebones says: Mar 26, 2017 7:49 AM

    I live about an hour away from Oakland, and I see hundreds, if not thousands of Raiders fans wearing jerseys, T-shirts, and sporting bumper stickers. Their kids are diehard Raiders fans too, and they’ll likely be for the rest of their lives. The overwhelming majority of them have never driven to Oakland to attend a game. They watch and cheer for their team from their living rooms. Most of these people couldn’t care less if the Raiders play in Las Vegas. They’ll still watch the games on TV, and continue to wear silver and black. In fact, I’d be willing to bet a lot of these fans will actually make a point to fly to Vegas to see a game. Now their is another excuse to go to Vegas, and their wives will be interested in going too. There is a certain loyalty to silver and black that you don’t see with most other pro sports teams.

  80. footballboozer says: Mar 26, 2017 8:24 AM

    It amazes me how the NFL would put this clown in charge.
    I don’t blame him, it’s the corrupt owners who did nothing to have an NFL franchise, the only thing they did in life was be born into the family.

  81. murphyslaw40 says: Mar 26, 2017 9:14 AM

    I simply do not understand why stadiums must cost $1.5B+ nowadays.

    University of Houston, TDECU Stadium, opened 2014, capacity 40,000, cost $128M.

    Baylor University, McLane Stadium, opened 2014, capacity 45,000, cost $266M.

    Colorado State University, Sonny Lubick Field, opens 2017, capacity 41,000, cost $220M.

    University of Minnesota, TCF Bank Stadium, opened 2009, capacity 51,000, cost $304M.

  82. gohawks2015 says: Mar 26, 2017 9:17 AM

    I hope the raiders don’t go because I’ve only known them in my lifetime as the “Oakland” Raiders.
    -Seahawks fan

  83. weepingjebus says: Mar 26, 2017 9:43 AM

    Goodell is a liar. This all men know.

  84. drocity says: Mar 26, 2017 9:44 AM

    Well, one thing is for certain. All of the progress the team made this year on the field will be flushed down the toilet. All this turmoil will result in a sub-par year on the field. St. Louis and SD were both already bad, so their shared LA misery won’t be a surprise, but Oakland was close to challenging NE, Pitt, & Denver for a seat at the head table of the AFC. But alas, it was all for not.

  85. idun215 says: Mar 26, 2017 9:53 AM

    I don’t blame the NFL and Raiders for saying No to Oakland. Who wants to stay in Oakland when Las Vegas has a much better offer and its a football only stadium in a brand new market. No offense to Oakland but pound sand and count the days until the A’s leave.

  86. otheirony says: Mar 26, 2017 10:11 AM

    Well, it’s moves like this that have left me emotionally attached to only one team-my fantasy team. I will watch very few NFL games, don’t care about “my packers” anymore, and will only care about my fantasy team(s). I feel for folks from Oakland, St. Louis, Cleveland, Baltimore, etc…Only time before others leave.

    The NFL is dying.

  87. murphyslaw40 says: Mar 26, 2017 10:33 AM

    Oakland could build a decent stadium, on Coliseum land, after the Warriors move to San Francisco (2019, I believe).

    A basic, new 50,000 seat stadium will run around $400M. If the NFL is willing to put up a $200M loan, and Davis is willing to pay $350M relocation fee, and they were planning on $300M in PSL sales… then they can pay to add the rings of luxury suites on top of the basic stadium.

    Get yer heads outta yer rear-ends, and get a deal done already.

  88. countyk66ers says: Mar 26, 2017 10:43 AM

    Pete Rozelle would never had allowed Las Vegas to be considered as an NFL city”

  89. MTLighthouse69 says: Mar 26, 2017 10:48 AM

    I wonder at what point the NFL reaches that tipping point where fans abandon the sport and tell the NFL to stuff it.

    How many fan bases can they really afford to tick off and truly expect people to put up with the league’s nonsense?

    As I said before, I believe the owners are only as loyal as their next stadium deal.

    IMO, this isn’t on Goodell, this is an owners issue.

  90. 1964bclions says: Mar 26, 2017 11:23 AM

    thegreatgabbert says:
    Mar 25, 2017 7:54 PM

    Then, the Raj delicately extended his hand for the Mayor to kiss.
    ———————————————————-

    Post of the Month, Classic!

  91. keys2heat says: Mar 26, 2017 11:45 AM

    I feel for the die-hard fans; but as you know, fans don’t mean squat to the billionare$.

    One thing I know, the Redskins will NEVER leave NOVA/Maryland/DC…..yeah….DC where they will be soon once money is pony’d up for a new stadium next to the DC Armory right where RFK is. The liberals screamed about not putting them in DC because of the name Redskins, but now they have ran off to their safe-spaces and the cute little crusade has run out of steam……Redskins to DC soon! They will always be the Washington (city of DC) Redskins (name will never change snowflakes).

  92. babygaga19 says: Mar 26, 2017 12:02 PM

    Fab fan boys, today is Super Hate Roger day because he has ruineD our lives and the world. At 5 eastern, every body quietly close your eyes and day “I HaTE you Roger!” That will get him! I just know it will.

  93. swhughes81 says: Mar 26, 2017 12:10 PM

    I hope they move to Vegas. Their bathrooms are a lot cleaner than Oakland

  94. socalraider says: Mar 26, 2017 12:21 PM

    Elections have consequences, vote more liberals in Oakland. Unfortunately we’re just as dumb in So.Cal

  95. coloradofort says: Mar 26, 2017 1:32 PM

    If anyone thinks this will work out well in Vegas with respect to attendance they are crazy………too transient, to many things to do, too many weekenders…..

    But they may in fact be more successful then the LA Chargers which is going to be a semi-pro environment….

    I guess the NFL will have to start looking for new towns to try and fleece after this latest round of teams moving……San Antonio your up

  96. Slapshot says: Mar 26, 2017 1:40 PM

    The local football telecasts here in the Bay Area maybe now will include more teams for us to watch. After being stuck with the Niners and Raiders for years and years, there isn’t much left. Ugh! Thank goodness for NFL Red Zone.

  97. omeimontis says: Mar 26, 2017 1:48 PM

    It will be a tougher sell in Vegas than in Oakland or LA. Unless they are a winner, they won’t be drawing a lot of people because there are so many other things to do in Vegas. It is worse than being in LA, which also has a lot of things to do, because lots of people in LA drive to Vegas on Friday nights. The Raiders couldn’t draw sellout crowds in LA and they won’t do it in Vegas unless they are as good year in and year out as the New England Patriots has been for the past 15 years. Good luck.

    I can see them leaving town ten years later, just like they left Oakland, LA and Oakland again. May be they are singing Bruce Springsteen’s Born to Run. “Tramps like us, baby we were born to run.”

  98. omeimontis says: Mar 26, 2017 1:54 PM

    I don’t think the NFL is in love with a team being in Vegas. I think they are giving a go ahead to avoid another potential loss in the courts.

  99. omeimontis says: Mar 26, 2017 2:02 PM

    Raiders will be competing against Britney Spears and other entertainers for tourist dollars.

  100. pastabelly says: Mar 26, 2017 3:25 PM

    omeimontis says:
    Mar 26, 2017 2:02 PM
    Raiders will be competing against Britney Spears and other entertainers for tourist dollars.
    =================================
    Or maybe tourists come in for the weekend, see a show, gamble, and then go to game.

  101. sportsfan8888 says: Mar 26, 2017 3:57 PM

    JUST SAY NOT TO CORPORATE WELFARE AND EXTORTION TACTICS BY BILLIONAIRE NFL OWNERS AND THE COMMISSIONER.

    WHY SHOULD THE TAXPAYERS OF THE AREA GIVE A BILLION DOLLAR PLUS SUBSIDY TO A OWNERSHIP OF A PRIVATE BUSINESS?!

    IF DAVIS/RAIDERS WANT TO STAY IN THE BAY AREA, THEN HE/THEY CAN PLAY THEIR GAMES IN LEVIS STADIUM IN SANTA CLARA(SHORT DRIVE DOWN THE FREEWAYS).
    THERE IS ALREADY AN OFFER ON THE TABLE BY THE OPERATORS OF LEVIS STADIUM FOR THE RAIDERS TO SHARE THE NEW 49ERS STADIUM IN SANTA CLARA. EACH TEAM PLAYS ONLY 8 HOME GAMES A YEAR PLUS A FEW PLAYOFF GAMES IF THEY MAKE THE PLAYOFFS?!
    WHY SPEND ANOTHER BILLION OR TWO ON ANOTHER NEW STADIUM IN THE SAME REGION THAT WILL ONLY BE USED 8-10 TIMES A YEAR?!

    OTHER NFL TEAMS HAVE SHARED STADIUM AGREEMENTS LIKE THE: NY GIANTS/JETS AND LA RAMS/CHARGERS.

    THIS IS ALL ABOUT RAIDERS/DAVIS/NFL GREED AND WANTING HUGE CORPORATE WELFARE FROM TAXPAYERS…AND NOTHING ELSE..

  102. mdintino1420 says: Mar 26, 2017 4:28 PM

    Roger Goodell should have told Libby Schaaf to get lost when he wrote back to her. Oakland has had nearly 20 years to resolve this matter. Congrats to the southern Nevada region for getting the Golden Knights and the Raiders. A new modernized football stadiums is just what the doctor ordered for Las Vegas.

    When NV lawmakers approved a hotel tax increase to raise $750 million toward the new stadium, Oakland’s fate was sealed. Certain clueless idiots do not understand how money works in the NFL world. Libby Schaaf is a moron and a disgrace!!!

  103. mdintino1420 says: Mar 26, 2017 4:38 PM

    There seems to be a misconception here. People on these message boards act like Las Vegas is next door neighbors with Los Angeles and Phoenix. It isn’t. Las Vegas is 270 miles rom Los Angeles and 300 miles Phoenix. Mark Davis said he isn’t counting on “out of town visitors” to attend games. He will establish and market his team in the southern Nevada region.

    Southern Nevada is its own market and a great market for the NFL to get into. The NHL was aware of this, and the Vegas Golden Knights will start play this coming fall.

  104. cadreamer1969 says: Mar 26, 2017 4:52 PM

    RyanToCollinsAndBrown says:
    Mar 25, 2017 8:56 PM


    Or could it be that erecting a giant building to be used a guaranteed minimum 8 to a maximum 14 times a year isn’t as risk- free as you suggest? That your business model is now ridiculous because it requires a god-awful expensive physical plant just to present some occasional entertainment that is now more comfortably viewed from home? That it’s too hard to justify when a baseball facility is less expensive to build and maintain even if it’s used 80 times a year? …

    AT&T Stadium in Dallas is quite busy with among other things concerts, soccer, high school and college football. They have a lot more than 14 events.

  105. Phil Nelson says: Mar 26, 2017 5:54 PM

    Screw Goodell and the greedy as hell NFL. The stadium deals they demand are practically extorion. I hope the NFL collapses. I love the Raiders, been a fan for years and frankly don’t care if it goes on.

  106. A happy green parrot says: Mar 26, 2017 6:23 PM

    “If you dont build us a stadium the tuck rule is going back in”

  107. A happy green parrot says: Mar 26, 2017 6:27 PM

    Phil Nelson says:
    Mar 26, 2017 5:54 PM
    Screw Goodell and the greedy as hell NFL. The stadium deals they demand are practically extorion. I hope the NFL collapses. I love the Raiders, been a fan for years and frankly don’t care if it goes on.

    ———————-

    I have thought it would be amusing if just once a city told the NFL to stay away from their town and walked away from the table.

  108. ibillwt says: Mar 26, 2017 7:21 PM

    Does anyone doubt that the puppet will do what Vegas says?

  109. A happy green parrot says: Mar 26, 2017 7:38 PM

    When you look at how much money Bob Kraft made from building the stadium himself and then a complex around it I dont see why more owners aren’t into following that model. He isn’t in any profit sharing deals, he gets all the money that place rakes in hand over fist every day of the year. Having it all be 100% his with no one else to answer to or deal with offers him so many advantages.

  110. RyanToCollinsAndBrown says: Mar 26, 2017 7:42 PM

    cadreamer1969 says:
    Mar 26, 2017 4:52 PM

    AT&T Stadium in Dallas is quite busy with among other things concerts, soccer, high school and college football. They have a lot more than 14 events.

    ==================================

    Cool. Please give Mark Davis a call and let him know that he’s passing up the opportunity to both line his pockets and be a hero to Oakland by building his own stadium to host all similar such events. I’ll bet there are no competing venues in or around Oakland for such events, huh?

    Yes, I’m being facetious.

    Apparently, most NFL owners don’t want to own and operate a stadium 365 days a year. In fact, they’d rather pay hundreds of millions of dollars to move instead of sinking it into owned facilities. I think it’s safe to assume it’s because the acquisition, building and maintenance costs don’t pencil out.

    I wonder what it costs just to open the doors at AT&T Stadium?

  111. soaringelvis says: Mar 27, 2017 11:56 AM

    omeimontis says:
    Mar 26, 2017 2:02 PM

    Raiders will be competing against Britney Spears and other entertainers for tourist dollars.
    ———————

    I don’t think Britney holds her concerts at 1 PM on Sunday afternoons… If you build it, they will come.

  112. factpurveyor says: Mar 27, 2017 9:23 PM

    Will the NFL play a recording of crowd noise if the stadium in nearly empty?

    They could take the recording of Goodell being booed during the last superbowl trophy presentation and play it on a loop over the stadium speakers.

    That way the sound that the NFL carefully edited out of the superbowl retail DVD’s wont go to waste.

    Pathetic that Goodell didn’t have them omit mentioning deflategate at the beginning of the DVD. Also pathetic that Goodell has carefully hidden the PSI information from the 2015 season.

  113. mmack66 says: Mar 30, 2017 5:20 PM

    ariani1985 says:
    Mar 25, 2017 8:53 PM

    Notice that buffalo doesn’t get these letters?
    ———————-

    Goodell already tried to shame Pegula into building a new stadium.

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