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Vegas gambling issues falling on deaf ears within NFL

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When it comes to the potential practical consequences of putting a professional football team in Las Vegas, the NFL isn’t completely ignoring the situation. It seems, however, that not nearly enough people are taking the situation as seriously as they should.

Per a source with knowledge of the situation, some are indeed sounding alarms about moving a team to the nation’s gambling capital. Those alarms seem to be obscured by the sound of the league’s looming jackpot.

As noted on Saturday, the NFL can’t (and thus isn’t even trying to) reconcile its desire to put a team in Las Vegas with its supposed aversion to all things gambling. But if, after the owners get together this week with a chance for any opponents to chime in, the league gives the Raiders the green light to leave Oakland for Las Vegas, it will be important for both the team and the NFL to have clear plans in place for plopping players, coaches, executives, and other team employees into a place where gambling is more prevalent than good food quickly.

Put simply, players and their families will be moving into a place where gambling is everywhere. While some have argued that nearly any player on any team already is within driving distance of a casino, casinos in most places are destinations. In Las Vegas, where both casino games and sports betting are legal, a player can’t walk out of his apartment without being smacked in the face by the “here it is, why aren’t you here?” prevalance of it.

At some point, the lure of gambling will tempt everyone — even those who believe they are sufficiently self-disciplined to avoid it. At some point, someone connected to the team will develop a gambling problem. At some point, someone with a gambling problem will develop a significant gambling debt. At some point, someone with a significant gambling debt will be ripe to be compromised.

The league needs to be ready to prevent it (which may be impossible) and to spot it when it happens (which may be just as difficult). And even if the league manages to keep it from ever happen for the duration of the Raiders’ stay in Las Vegas, the league needs to be ready to hear more of the same-old conspiracies about corrupt officiating and points shaving, realizing that a layer of craps-table felt will make the tin-foil hats seem less nutty.

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  1. billypogo says: Mar 26, 2017 12:59 PM

    Gambling BAAAADDD. Profit GOOODDD

  2. therealraider says: Mar 26, 2017 1:01 PM

    There will definitely have to be an onus on drafting high character guys. Derek Carr probably see’s sin city as an opportunity to preach, where as Johnny Manziel would be eaten alive.

  3. stoneydog1000 says: Mar 26, 2017 1:01 PM

    Say it ain’t so, Mike. Say it ain’t so.

  4. redsea1111 says: Mar 26, 2017 1:04 PM

    And then when refs start desperately wanting to work the Vegas games….

  5. bannedfromchoirpractice says: Mar 26, 2017 1:05 PM

    Funny we’re so worried about playing games in Las Vegas, when we are so willing to play games in Mexico, the very place we’re going to wall ourselves off from.

  6. redstar504 says: Mar 26, 2017 1:06 PM

    The only concern I would have is easy access to sports books. Here in Louisiana we have a casino 8 blocks from the Superdome but sports books are illegal in Louisiana. If an NFL player wants to drop 250 k on blackjack that’s one thing dropping 250 K on a Pats vs. Raiders game and you play for the Raiders is a whole other issue.

  7. irishgary says: Mar 26, 2017 1:07 PM

    If it were not for gambling on the NFL, it would be as popular as hockey

  8. jchipwood says: Mar 26, 2017 1:07 PM

    The NFL is a money machine that only cares about money….not the game. And we the fans are the ones funding it and only ones seem to care about the actual game of football.

  9. tonebones says: Mar 26, 2017 1:08 PM

    Anyone in the world can pull their phone out of their pocket and place a bet on NFL football games. I also know people who live in Vegas and are raising families, but never step foot into a casino. I understand about the gambling debt, etc., but that could happen in any city. It could already be happening. It would be easier to get away with it in another city where everyone won’t be watching for it. But I see Florio’s point, and he’s probably a lot smarter than I am.

  10. livenbreathefootball says: Mar 26, 2017 1:13 PM

    I can guarantee there is already someone on a team with a gambling problem.

    Believe it or not, there are plenty of people in Vegas who go to the grocery store, out to dinner, take their kids to school, etc and do not gamble while doing those things.

    You are way overhyping this.

  11. denverscott says: Mar 26, 2017 1:13 PM

    At some point, the lure of gambling will tempt everyone — even those who believe they are sufficiently self-disciplined to avoid it.

    Yup. Not one person will resist. Lawdy Lawdy save them sinners from themselves Lawd. Because right now, nobody in the NFL can place a bet from their sofa. Heck, if this move goes through there could be players at nightclubs deep into the night. Lawdy Lawdy.

  12. kmdp4 says: Mar 26, 2017 1:16 PM

    This could happen to any team you don’t have to be based in Las Vegas to have issues with gambling.

  13. bigdogsolec says: Mar 26, 2017 1:17 PM

    heck i live in Minnesota and within driving 1.5 hrs of 4 casinos , The vikings ,”and who ever they play at home” are within 20 Mns of the states biggest ” MYSTIC LAKE ” .
    so arn’t they just as likely to go to a casino ?.theres other teams that are close to them also LA ,San Diego “when they had a team “the Giants ,Jets , Pats , Ravens list go’s on out east.
    There’s more to casinos than gambling ” the buffets , the concerts
    Joan jett ,Boston ,Santana, Tony Bennett ” YES TONY BENNETT ” isn’t he MR. Las Vegas ?
    there’s more to them than gambling

  14. rcali says: Mar 26, 2017 1:21 PM

    Daily leagues are gambling so nothing to see here.

  15. lukedunphysscienceproject says: Mar 26, 2017 1:22 PM

    I am quite literally stunned By this post. Never in 1 million years would I have thought that somebody who typically has modern and enlightened positions on social issues would buy into this type of nonsense.

    First off, next time you are in Las Vegas, do yourself a favor and wonder three blocks off the strip. Your charicature of LV as nothing more than a cesspool of vice is horribly old fashioned and touristy. It is, in fact, quite easy to live in LV and never get within a mile of stepping foot in a casino.

    In any events, the presence of legal sports books will not increase gambling amongst players – only the most stupid would walk into a public book and place a bet. These places would be far too easy for the league to watch. No- gambling players will continue to gamble the way they always have.

    I think the same thing about gambling that I say about smoking pot- Nobody that wants to do it will care whether it is legal or not, and no one who doesn’t want to do it will do it whether it is legal or not.

  16. exinsidetrader says: Mar 26, 2017 1:23 PM

    I would take these concerns more seriously if the Refs were not part-time and many penalties are not subject to challenge thus giving Refs and incentive and opportunity to shave points/fix games.

  17. jag1959 says: Mar 26, 2017 1:24 PM

    Somehow it’s more of a concern to have a team in a city where sports gambling is legal and prevalent than it is to have it in a city where it is illegal and prevalent? Doesn’t it stand to reason what happens legally has a smaller potential for breeding criminality than something that begins with an illegal act? The Mirage isn’t going to be fixing any games.

  18. scoocha says: Mar 26, 2017 1:26 PM

    Why does Florio keep hanging this drum? We heard from fans all season how the Brits have legalized gambling in London and the NFL desperately wants to move a team there. Maybe the NFL has finally understood that they are contradicting themselves with the two cities.

  19. bannedfromchoirpractice says: Mar 26, 2017 1:26 PM

    redstar504 says:
    Mar 26, 2017 1:06 PM
    The only concern I would have is easy access to sports books. Here in Louisiana we have a casino 8 blocks from the Superdome but sports books are illegal in Louisiana. If an NFL player wants to drop 250 k on blackjack that’s one thing dropping 250 K on a Pats vs. Raiders game and you play for the Raiders is a whole other issue.
    ===================================

    Why are we worried about players betting on games, when we aren’t worried in the least about our politicians’ stock market activities that are directly tied to laws they are enacting at the very same time? You don’t have to worry about your congressman betting on football. He’s got a better game.

  20. exinsidetrader says: Mar 26, 2017 1:26 PM

    jayhawk6 says:
    Mar 26, 2017 12:58 PM

    The NFL might not turn out to be as big a FUBAR as Trump in the White House, but the possibility exists.
    ________________
    You have to let your derangement go and stop making everything about the President. I am sorry your pro-War, pro-Banker corrupt Establishment candidate lost, but you and others of your ilk are coming across as cry-bully loons; especially, on a football site.

  21. bigdogsolec says: Mar 26, 2017 1:27 PM

    livenbreathefootball says:
    Mar 26, 2017 1:13 PM
    I can guarantee there is already someone on a team with a gambling problem.

    Believe it or not, there are plenty of people in Vegas who go to the grocery store, out to dinner, take their kids to school, etc and do not gamble while doing those things.

    You are way overhyping this.

    ALL TRUE , forgot going to the bathroom in a public place and having the KENO machine right next to the toilet paper , an ignor the thing ” just grab the TP “

  22. 2sloweggroll says: Mar 26, 2017 1:29 PM

    Has anyone ever been to London? There arcades are on every block. Do they have these problems with Man U?

  23. nflpoker says: Mar 26, 2017 1:29 PM

    1 will get you 5 that Oakland will moving to Las Vegas, with the blessing of the owners. And since I like to play blackjack, I’ll double down on that bet , since the odds are good that they will move.

  24. clayjtitan66 says: Mar 26, 2017 1:31 PM

    Illegal gambling is more of an issue than legal gambling.

  25. xenova1 says: Mar 26, 2017 1:31 PM

    New Orleans has a casino down the street from the Superdome but they don’t have sports betting so that the Saints do not conflict with NFL rules. If the Raiders move, will the casino be able to allow sports betting? I know your point is that Las Vegas is different because gambling is so prevalent. I’m just wondering about the implications of moving a team to Las Vegas. I am not against them moving there as much as having them moving out of Oakland. John Madden will be rolling in his grave even before he is put into it.

  26. oreo51 says: Mar 26, 2017 1:32 PM

    It is not just the gambling for the home team. The visiting players are going to be hitting the clubs. The drugs, girls, gambling and nightlife will all prove to be problems for the NFL. For a lot of these young men, a game in Vegas will be their first trip to Sin City.

  27. raiderlyfe510 says: Mar 26, 2017 1:35 PM

    Of course nobody’s taking it as serious as it should becuaae they can’t resist the lure of the devil(750 mil), but when it’s time for Mark Davis to pay the devil his dues everybody will be singing a different tune especially the Vegas residents.

    With Mark and the Raiders being 900 million in debt before shovels are even in the ground, and being dependent on 30k+ outta town fans to consistently fill the stadium(one Derek Carr injury away from mediocrty), the Raiders are gonna be in more than the devil’s debt. Plus they have a multi-billionaire enemy in the area who has breakfast with the president.

    Man, this has disaster and failure written all over it.

  28. amishninjas says: Mar 26, 2017 1:43 PM

    Gambling is illegal in baseball yet people have been banned for gambling. Gambling is illegal in basketball yet both college and pros have had people in trouble for it.

    Getting football players to take a dive would have to involve more than just a player. QB would be the most likely but he’s also the highest paid guy on the team. Seems unlikely that nefarious people would be able to get a coach or offensive/defensive coordinator and players on both sides of the ball to collude to effect the outcome of the game. In football 1 person isn’t going to have that type of effect unless he’s the QB and a guy making 15+ million a year would need the payoff from throwing a game to eclipse that number in order for it to make financial sense.

  29. nomoreseasontix says: Mar 26, 2017 1:44 PM

    The first sketchy deal that’s made will be on TMZ within 30 minutes.
    Nobody can pass gas without those guys on it.

  30. patfanken says: Mar 26, 2017 1:45 PM

    Couldn’t agree more with Florio. It’s not necessarily the Casinos as it is the legalized sports betting. The lines are set in Vegas, and having a team there compromises the PERCEPTION of a level playing field. That is what is important. Even if the individual players, coaches and other personnel that could become compromised, manage to stay clean, few are going to believe it.

    All it takes is one player to be casually talking to the wrong person about something he saw on film and it would give an edge to the bookies.

    The move to Vegas is just wrong for so many reasons. The Gambling issue is just one of them.

  31. infectorman says: Mar 26, 2017 1:54 PM

    The league needs to be ready to prevent it (which may be impossible) and to spot it when it happens (which may be just as difficult).

    ??!?!?

    Prevent it? That’s like asking Swillary to tell the truth.
    A physical, metaphysical, logical, literal and figurative IMpossiblity

  32. theparadoxx82 says: Mar 26, 2017 1:58 PM

    They think people are actually going to live there?

  33. u4icgroov says: Mar 26, 2017 1:59 PM

    I have friends that live in Vegas that never go to the strip. It’s for tourists, and they’ll tell you they hate it. Casinos outside of Vegas are not destinations. The Horseshoe Casino in Baltimore is a 2 min walk from M&T Bank stadium, Maryland Live is a 15 min drive and the brand new MGM palace in DC is 45 mins away. This isn’t 20 years ago when everyone used to have to drive to the Indian reservation to go to the casinos. They are everywhere. This isn’t the old days where you found a shady bookie to place your sports bets, it’s now at the tip of your finger or click of your mouse. I’m beginning to think that these writers have no life and have been sheltered. Dropping a bunch of 20-somthing millionaires into Vegas is no different than South Beach, NYC, Boston, Chicago, Los Angeles or New Orleans. If you’ve got the money you can get ANYTHING you want, any time of day and they’ll deliver.

  34. holidlove says: Mar 26, 2017 1:59 PM

    If there were an emoji with dollar signs for eyes, that’d be the NFL.

  35. jayhawk6 says: Mar 26, 2017 1:59 PM

    @exinsidetrader

    jayhawk6 says:
    Mar 26, 2017 12:58 PM
    The NFL might not turn out to be as big a FUBAR as Trump in the White House, but the possibility exists.
    ________________
    You have to let your derangement go and stop making everything about the President. I am sorry your pro-War, pro-Banker corrupt Establishment candidate lost, but you and others of your ilk are coming across as cry-bully loons; especially, on a football site.
    ————————————————-

    —that will not be a problem as and when Don Cheeto is on his way to Leavenworth or Gitmo or wherever it may be that he destined to live out his days.

  36. abninf says: Mar 26, 2017 2:00 PM

    Per a source with knowledge of the situation.

  37. sml1210 says: Mar 26, 2017 2:01 PM

    You act like it’s impossible to get a bet down or have someone try to fix a game in any of the other 49 states. Right…keep living in your dream world with visions of sugar plum fairies. This is 2017 – you can do anything from anywhere in the world without any problems at all and most of it online if you know the right people.

  38. jerseyraider says: Mar 26, 2017 2:02 PM

    All this talk about gambling and no mention of the effect the world’s oldest profession is going to have on the game. Visiting players will be out the night before the game partying with all the lovely ladies, showing up for the games dragging their butts. This is an unfair advantage for the Raiders, without a doubt. Why isn’t anybody talking about this?

  39. stratagiz says: Mar 26, 2017 2:04 PM

    Mike, Stop being a Drama Queen. Gambling is everywhere. I have lived in Vegas for 15 years and I don’t gamble. Everyone knows all the players are ultra competitive and gamble anyway. Might not be on sports but they gamble. Better option than all the domestic violence and drug issues. Gambling… way back on the list of what players are doing. I see these guys all the time on the strip.

  40. harrisonhits2 says: Mar 26, 2017 2:04 PM

    All 31 other owners than Davis are having Homer Simpson moment’s drooling and sputtering “all that moooneeeyyy” thinking about their cut of the huge “relocation fee” that has to be paid to them by the Raiders.

    They care nothing about any other factor.

  41. babygaga19 says: Mar 26, 2017 2:09 PM

    Captain Jack Del Rio is already receiving checks from the Mob.

  42. kingpel says: Mar 26, 2017 2:12 PM

    Oh wait. Are we pretending the NFL dislikes gambling?

  43. tomtravis76 says: Mar 26, 2017 2:17 PM

    The NFL is in bed with alcohol and they just assume everyone attending a game is responsible enough to not get wasted and you know, drive drunk. Heck, they believe in it so much they have people bring you alcohol to your seats and in most premium seating areas it is an all you can drink (premium above club seating). NFL doesn’t worry much beyond personal responsibility. Gambling is legal, leave it up to personal responsibility. Like in some European cities, there should be legal sports books in all US cities. Shoot, I can place a bet right now online…it’s not an issue.

  44. rootpain says: Mar 26, 2017 2:20 PM

    tonebones says:
    Mar 26, 2017 1:08 PM
    Anyone in the world can pull their phone out of their pocket and place a bet on NFL football games. I also know people who live in Vegas and are raising families, but never step foot into a casino. I understand about the gambling debt, etc., but that could happen in any city. It could already be happening. It would be easier to get away with it in another city where everyone won’t be watching for it. But I see Florio’s point, and he’s probably a lot smarter than I am.
    ———————————————-
    Was about to thumbs up until your last sentence. Maybe Florio is a lot smarter than you. But his point is nonsense. Anyone in the NFL that is bound by any NFL gambling rules is a several hour max, plane ride away from Vegas. They can easily get their and bak, wherever back is, in a day. And if they currently play for Oakland, they could get there and back leaving after lunch and getting home before Oprah. Living there is not an issue.
    If they get in trouble it will be like O.J. trouble ie being stupid about where you carry a weapon. But it’s not going to be about the gambling.

  45. metitometin says: Mar 26, 2017 2:25 PM

    There should never be a team in Las Vegas. It’s a terrible sports city, no one is from there and they would never support a pro team. How many out of town visitors would take time out of gambling to go to a sports event?

    This is all about Goodell and his 1 percenter owners squeezing more profit out of the league. He can’t build his palace to the 1% in Oakland or San Diego, so move the team, even though it make no sense. Oakland without the Raiders is unthinkable. But that’s the way things are going, Goodell is probably taking his cues from Trump, who is turning this country into an Oligarchy of the 1% and giving the middle finger to everyone who voted for him.

  46. nsawins says: Mar 26, 2017 2:26 PM

    How is it any different than the Broncos playing in a city that allows marijuana usage?

  47. gruntsinthetrenches says: Mar 26, 2017 2:26 PM

    Art Schlichter rumored to be Raiders new G.M. in
    Vegas. Problem solved.

  48. bannedfromchoirpractice says: Mar 26, 2017 2:31 PM

    One thing is certain: If Trump starts hawking the Raiders move to Vegas as a beautiful thing, we’ll then know that Vladimir Putin’s people have infiltrated Las Vegas.

  49. football2011 says: Mar 26, 2017 2:34 PM

    The NFL has two teams in New Jersey and Atlantic City has legalized gambling. I don’t see how this is different.

  50. stampnhawk says: Mar 26, 2017 2:34 PM

    The latest soap box themed rants. Last month it was Owens and HOF griping.
    First off, guys aren’t waking out of their houses and hit with gambling themed messages. Most Vegas residents stay far away from the Strip or downtown.
    Secondly, all guys who want to find trouble will find it.

    Secondly, I could make bets 15 years ago online with regards to NFL games. Any sort of leaning on players and officials and trying to influence them is much more sophisticated then Ronnie and Guido from some Vegas casino paying some player a friendly visit in his Las Vegas home.
    This isn’t 1983 anymore and sports gambling and all the shady stuff that comes with it, is all over the place.

  51. jay6666 says: Mar 26, 2017 2:35 PM

    jayhawk6 says:
    Mar 26, 2017 12:58 PM

    The NFL might not turn out to be as big a FUBAR as Trump in the White House, but the possibility exists.
    ________________
    You have to let your derangement go and stop making everything about the President. I am sorry your pro-War, pro-Banker corrupt Establishment candidate lost, but you and others of your ilk are coming across as cry-bully loons; especially, on a football site.
    ==================================
    You mean Trump isn’t pro-war or pro=banker??? His corruption is far far greater!!! I guess you haven’t noticed that…….LOL

  52. thirdand43 says: Mar 26, 2017 2:49 PM

    The Goodell Era will forever be known as the destruction of the NFL.

  53. benniehifive says: Mar 26, 2017 2:53 PM

    Are we also concerned about player/players family safety living in higher crime places like Chicago, New York, Oakland…? They are grown men who know the difference between right and wrong, and with today’s technology any one of them could bet on anything they wanted right from their cell phones at any given time.

  54. briang123 says: Mar 26, 2017 2:54 PM

    The only aversion to gambling they have is the gambling they don’t get a piece of. Google NFL team and lottery scratch tickets and you will see that there is no aversion to that gambling.

  55. youcantmakemepickausername says: Mar 26, 2017 2:55 PM

    Actually, an NFL player living here (Las Vegas), or anyone else living here for that matter, is more likely to be bombarded by ads for parasitic, ambulance-chasing “In a Wreck? Need a Check?” attorneys than they are by ads for gambling.

  56. kerzondax says: Mar 26, 2017 2:56 PM

    $$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$

  57. captainwhodat says: Mar 26, 2017 2:56 PM

    irishgary says:
    Mar 26, 2017 1:07 PM
    If it were not for gambling on the NFL, it would be as popular as hockey
    …don’t look now but hockey is gaining on the NFL, and a one hour hockey game doesn’t take 3.5 hrs to play…

  58. maddmatter5 says: Mar 26, 2017 3:00 PM

    Alex Karras isn’t in the NFL Hall of Fame because of gambling. WHEN the Raiders move to Vegas, he should be voted in.

  59. j0esixpack says: Mar 26, 2017 3:09 PM

    Deaf ears?

    Goodell knowingly places the lives of players at risk to help gambling interests, including the mob, maintain an accurate Las Vegas line with their hypocritical “injury report” rules and fines

    Coaches like Belichick try their best to protect their players but Goodell would rather let opposing players know where to truly hurt a guy than allow Vegas interests to take a backseat

    Other fans mock Belichick for thumbing his nose at Goodell over this, but the players throughout the NFL see what he’s doing and appreciate it – one of many reasons they will take a pay cut to play for him

  60. cotroutslayer says: Mar 26, 2017 3:10 PM

    Another day and yet another article from Mr. Florio about gambling, the NFL, and Vegas. OMG I cannot wait for this to die the death it should have died 6 months ago!

    Again, Mike, let it go.

  61. oneilistheone says: Mar 26, 2017 3:16 PM

    PFT you should start keeping score now of what players on all teams have gambling problems.We know as soon as the Raiders set up shop you will be on it like TMZ and all of a sudden we will have an epidemic crisis.

    Im calling your BusStation in advance.

  62. akira1971 says: Mar 26, 2017 3:19 PM

    thirdand43 says:

    The Goodell Era will forever be known as the destruction of the NFL.
    ——————

    Yet, under Goodell’s leadership, viewership has dramatically INCREASED; annual league revenue is at $14 BILLION (from $4B when he started); and NFL players’ salary cap is at an all-time high.

    Please tell me in what shape or form is the NFL even close to being in the “destruction” phase… Only whiny babies like you are crying about the state of the NFL
    while most of us continue to like it just fine.

  63. deneb1973 says: Mar 26, 2017 3:36 PM

    A lawyer banging an ethical drum? Are you kidding me? London has more than 20 major casinos and legalized sports betting. this is a non-story – or more precisely a manufactured story to give PFT something to talk about on Monday. Hey Mike – why not talk about the various issues that will need to be addressed in the next CBA: internet revenues, fantasy football revenues, revenue splits, discipline procedures, annual minimum spending, expanding rosters for playoff teams, etc. Then at least the issues you trumpet have some validity to the game.

  64. cavemaneh says: Mar 26, 2017 3:57 PM

    Hoping the vote will fall short 1 or 2 votes to buy Oakland a couple of extra months to reinforce the latest bid by Schaff & Lott.

    Whatever happens, the mandarins in Oakland were sleeping on the switch too long.

  65. bannedfromchoirpractice says: Mar 26, 2017 4:02 PM

    lukedunphysscienceproject says:
    Mar 26, 2017 1:22 PM
    I am quite literally stunned By this post. Never in 1 million years would I have thought that somebody who typically has modern and enlightened positions on social issues would buy into this type of nonsense.

    First off, next time you are in Las Vegas, do yourself a favor and wonder three blocks off the strip. Your charicature of LV as nothing more than a cesspool of vice is horribly old fashioned and touristy. It is, in fact, quite easy to live in LV and never get within a mile of stepping foot in a casino.

    In any events, the presence of legal sports books will not increase gambling amongst players – only the most stupid would walk into a public book and place a bet. These places would be far too easy for the league to watch. No- gambling players will continue to gamble the way they always have.

    I think the same thing about gambling that I say about smoking pot- Nobody that wants to do it will care whether it is legal or not, and no one who doesn’t want to do it will do it whether it is legal or not.
    ——————————————-

    Yeah, Toto–I mean Mike–we’re not in West Virginia anymore.

  66. donbat67 says: Mar 26, 2017 4:07 PM

    $$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$
    Why do you think the league puts out injury reports ?
    For the book makers.

  67. mojodoa says: Mar 26, 2017 4:08 PM

    Draft high character players and turn it into a home advantage.

  68. TheBrownswillstinkagain says: Mar 26, 2017 4:18 PM

    Maybe the NFL should stop fixing games and betting outcomes thru the refs.

    How everyone cant see that is beyond me

  69. hang3xc says: Mar 26, 2017 4:40 PM

    bannedfromchoirpractice says:

    Funny we’re so worried about playing games in Las Vegas, when we are so willing to play games in Mexico, the very place we’re going to wall ourselves off from.
    ———————————
    “We” are trying to “wall ourselves off from” tens of thousands of immigrants coming into our country illegally. The “wall” has openings in it. They are called border crossings. Nobody is trying to wall off an entire country. “We” just want people to come through the “door”, the right way.

    When people come into your home, do they knock on the door, or do they come in, uninvited, through a basement window? Would someone who entered your home through a window be a welcomed guest? I seriously doubt it.

    Wanting people to come in the right way does not make someone a racist, bigot, xenophobe etc

    BTW, Obama deported more illegals than every other president of the 20th century COMBINED.

  70. A happy green parrot says: Mar 26, 2017 4:49 PM

    jayhawk6 says:
    Mar 26, 2017 1:59 PM
    @exinsidetrader

    jayhawk6 says:
    Mar 26, 2017 12:58 PM
    The NFL might not turn out to be as big a FUBAR as Trump in the White House, but the possibility exists.
    ________________
    You have to let your derangement go and stop making everything about the President. I am sorry your pro-War, pro-Banker corrupt Establishment candidate lost, but you and others of your ilk are coming across as cry-bully loons; especially, on a football site.
    ————————————————-

    —that will not be a problem as and when Don Cheeto is on his way to Leavenworth or Gitmo or wherever it may be that he destined to live out his days.

    ———————–

    Yeah but the point is that this is a sports article. So please.

  71. vanmorrissey says: Mar 26, 2017 5:10 PM

    Horsecrap. Betting is and has been legal in London for years yet the NFL continues to play more and more games there every year. I cry BS on it. Willing to set up and establish a presence in England, then you better be OK in setting one up in Vegas.

  72. babygaga19 says: Mar 26, 2017 5:12 PM

    Sorry Libby, but the Raiders are adios, baby. Oakland’s stadium will still work well for monster truck rallies, wet tshirt contests and $1 beer nights for pro wrastling. Good luck with that. The nfl isn’t going back to Oakland, ever! You lose!

  73. Slapshot says: Mar 26, 2017 5:25 PM

    It’s just like the league and Goodell looking the other way when it comes to concussions–because they are a threat to making profits. Now they’re looking the other way when it comes to gambling . . . there is money to be made, gentlemen. Onward to the desert!

  74. genoinabottlenyj says: Mar 26, 2017 5:39 PM

    the raiders can submit an entire list of team officials, employees, players to a database. anyone who bets on the raiders will have their name run through the database. if their name comes up they cant bet on that game.

    almost like a background check for betting on a raiders game. its efficient, simple, and probably wont cost that much in the grand scheme of things

  75. questionableopinion says: Mar 26, 2017 5:42 PM

    The people who have to put up the biggest front and pretend they are on some high moral ground are always the ones with the most skeletons in the closet. The NFL is no different. They love to put on this facade of righteousness but have a lot of dirty secrets going on behind the scenes.

    Don’t pay attention to all that shady crap we’re doing in the shadows, be outraged at all of this excessive celebration that players are doing after a touchdown! Be outraged because some player has an opinion! Don’t pay attention to us.

    People with a brain see through you.

  76. genoinabottlenyj says: Mar 26, 2017 5:52 PM

    I have lived in Vegas for about 10 years now. Not only is it one of the cheapest places to live compared to big cities, the strip is NO WHERE NEAR where these players would most likely live. Chances are they will live In Green Valley, Summerlin, Anthem, or probably just build a house out in the mountains. If you live on the strip, you are either homeless or in a high rise.

    Another point that should be made. Sports betting in Las Vegas is probably the most regulated thing in the United States that isn’t controlled by the government. Big bets are investigated and vetted before they are taking.

    Its really annoying to see people from Wyoming or North Dakota commenting on Las Vegas and how it is like a grand theft auto video game.

  77. bannedfromchoirpractice says: Mar 26, 2017 6:01 PM

    hang3xc says:
    Mar 26, 2017 4:40 PM
    bannedfromchoirpractice says:

    Funny we’re so worried about playing games in Las Vegas, when we are so willing to play games in Mexico, the very place we’re going to wall ourselves off from.
    ———————————
    “We” are trying to “wall ourselves off from” tens of thousands of immigrants coming into our country illegally. The “wall” has openings in it. They are called border crossings. Nobody is trying to wall off an entire country. “We” just want people to come through the “door”, the right way.

    When people come into your home, do they knock on the door, or do they come in, uninvited, through a basement window? Would someone who entered your home through a window be a welcomed guest? I seriously doubt it.

    Wanting people to come in the right way does not make someone a racist, bigot, xenophobe etc

    BTW, Obama deported more illegals than every other president of the 20th century COMBINED.
    ————————————————————

    If it weren’t for illegal immigrants, check-in time at Las Vegas hotels would be around midnight. No way are American homies going to do hard work for little pay and no benefits FAST. When I’m at a hotel in Las Vegas, the less English a service worker speaks the bigger tip they get from me. I’m not about to demonize the hardworking people being used as slaves. I’ll stand with them, any day.

  78. tylawspick6 says: Mar 26, 2017 6:15 PM

    fire goodell

  79. chatnboy says: Mar 26, 2017 6:28 PM

    THE FREAKIN N.F.L. IS SOOOOOO HYPOCRITICAL…IT’S NOT FUNNY!!!THERE SHOULD NEVER EVER BE A PROFESSIONAL N.F.L. TEAM IN LAS VEGAS!THEY WILL BE JUST ASKING FOR TROUBLE….AND GET IT!

  80. raiderrob21 says: Mar 26, 2017 6:30 PM

    Isn’t Prostitution is also big in Nevada? “Conduct detrimental to the league”

  81. bannedfromchoirpractice says: Mar 26, 2017 6:54 PM

    raiderrob21 says:
    Mar 26, 2017 6:30 PM
    Isn’t Prostitution is also big in Nevada? “Conduct detrimental to the league”
    ———————————————————-

    The upside is that prostitutes use birth control.

  82. thegreatgabbert says: Mar 26, 2017 6:56 PM

    Vegas. Bae. Vegas/

  83. v2787 says: Mar 26, 2017 7:13 PM

    If you want to gamble, you can do it in any major city. Vegas has more opportunities, admittedly, but come on–gambling is easy to do almost everywhere, even online. If a player, coach, or exec has a gambling problem, they can feed that vice easily. I’ve been to Vegas many times and enjoy it there, but I almost never gamble. I don’t need to. My guess is that most people don’t need to either.

    There are ways to deal with NFL personnel and gambling. First, you enforce the anti-gambling rules that already exist. Second, you make sure every employee of every team knows (and is continually reminded) that gambling on sports is prohibited, unacceptable, and a fireable offense. Third, you work with law enforcement and the casinos to identify NFL personnel (especially players, refs, and coaches) so they can’t gamble in those establishments without someone knowing about it. This isn’t rocket science. It’s doable.

  84. briang123 says: Mar 26, 2017 7:25 PM

    No need to worry. Packers, Seahawks, and Cardinals fans will have no trouble getting the lottery scratchers with the team logo on it. But those aren’t gambling. Haven’t you seen the commercials?

  85. reddzen says: Mar 26, 2017 7:26 PM

    This is a (usual) non-story from PFT. There is no conflict. Gambling, specifically sports gambling AND gambling in the NFL is available in all 50 states and throughout the world. It doesn’t affect the game. Moving to a city that hosts it doesn’t change that in any way. Please start “reporting” on real stories that affect the game.

    – From EVERYONE

  86. reddzen says: Mar 26, 2017 7:28 PM

    At some point, the lure of gambling will tempt everyone — even those who believe they are sufficiently self-disciplined to avoid it. At some point, someone connected to the team will develop a gambling problem.

    If someone develops a gambling problem connected to any team and say, are living in Oakland, they can place a bet from Oakland. This is seriously a non-story. This isn’t the 1970s when you have to be close to your vice. You can sports bet from anywhere Florio.

  87. wcman says: Mar 26, 2017 7:30 PM

    While some have argued that nearly any player on any team already is within driving distance of a casino,

    This is all you needed to say. They are ok with Las Vegas because any NFL employee or player already has the ability to gamble anywhere they are as well as online. The NHL has already moved to Vegas and after the Raiders move, another pro sports league will probably explore the option as well. Gambling is a part of life everywhere in the US now. The stigma against Vegas is not what it used to be.

  88. thegreatgabbert says: Mar 26, 2017 9:07 PM

    Raj no longer refers to it as “gambling” but “undertaking friendly games of chance”.

  89. spencermax31 says: Mar 26, 2017 9:23 PM

    People in Jacksonville, Green Bay or Baltimore can bet, and bet all they want to, Being in Vegas has nothing to do with “oh, they will be betting” I look at it like…No more lies from the that mayor of Oakland, or from the city council of Oakland, No more games on that dirt baseball field, No more games with that sewer sewage leaking through the walls into dressing rooms, etc., No more 450% surprise yearly stadium lease sprung on them,No more promises that are never delivered. I’ve been a Raider fan for 44 years, I’m excited about Monday, and am proud for Mark and the Organization to finally be rewarded with what they have for so long deserved….Welcome to Las Vegas!!!

  90. kd75 says: Mar 26, 2017 9:50 PM

    Bernard Hopkins used to place bets on himself to win his boxing matches all the time.

    Floyd Mayweather bets hundreds of thousands on sports all the time and he has never been “compromised.”

  91. udub says: Mar 27, 2017 12:39 AM

    Anyone with panic and concern over professional sports teams in Las Vegas has little to no understanding of how tightly regulated modern gambling is.

    They’re stuck in past of mob run gambling, but its 2017 and it’s run by giant corporations. If you know enough about how Vegas is ran you’d know the odds of a Vegas based professional player being ‘compromised’ are far LESS than a player somewhere else with distance from that regulation

  92. senatorblutarsky says: Mar 27, 2017 1:22 AM

    bigdogsolec says:
    Mar 26, 2017 1:17 PM

    heck i live in Minnesota and within driving 1.5 hrs of 4 casinos … There’s more to casinos than gambling ” the buffets , the concerts
    Joan jett ,Boston ,Santana, Tony Bennett ” YES TONY BENNETT ” isn’t he MR. Las Vegas ?
    there’s more to them than gambling
    __________________

    I always think of Tony Bennett as Mr. San Francisco.

  93. iamedreed says: Mar 27, 2017 10:36 AM

    the ravens stadium basically shares a parking lot with the casino and i’ve personally seen over 10 different ravens players there over the past year or so, why is vegas suddenly a problem??

    there are lots of ways for people players to get into debt, b ut football might be the toughest sport to actually throw a game or shave points unless you are the QB and at that point you’re already making a ton of money

  94. a10acosta says: Mar 27, 2017 10:52 PM

    Everyone’s so worried bout the gambling and rightly so, but don’t forget the wives and girlfriends vs. hookers drama that’s also bound to rear its ugly head. Every time a visiting team goes to Vegas, you can “bet” your ass, the wives and girlfriends are going to be none too happy. As for the home team Las Vegas Raiders well, they’d be wise to draft some high character players or off the field distractions will be quite the regular occurrence. It’s much easier to avoid temptation when it’s not literally in your face. There are lots of young single men in the NFL with pockets full of cash and I’m sure no end of casinos willing to extend a line of credit with complimentary hotel rooms etc. etc. etc. This is a train wreck waiting to happen, a classic not if but when scenario.

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