Raiders vote coming soon

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With plenty of momentum building toward a vote that would allow the Raiders to move to Las Vegas, the league apparently plans to cram the proposal through quickly. Before anyone realizes that dropping a franchise into a city synonymous with gambling: (1) could create real temptations, problems, and consequences for players who find themselves living in and around casinos; (2) is inconsitent with the league’s opposition to sports betting; and (3) could — will — invite speculation about corruption when officiating and/or player and/or coaching errors occur.

Via Daniel Kaplan of SportsBusiness Daily, the ballots are expected to be cast by 3:00 p.m. ET on Monday. The approval would be conditioned upon the Raiders getting a lease and finding a developer for the new stadium in Nevada.

Following the vote, Commissioner Roger Goodell, Raiders owner Mark Davis, Texans owner Bob McNair, the chairman of the league’s finance commitee, and Steelers President Art Rooney II, the chairman of the league’s stadium committee, will speak to the media. Which underscores the widespread expectation that there won’t be nine “no” votes in the room.

55 responses to “Raiders vote coming soon

  1. No sports organization in the world does its fans as dirty as the NFL. The entire sport is 100% about making 32 owners more money.

  2. 1, 2 & 3 are all good points…

    .. but to me, it comes down to the almighty dollar.

    How can you argue long term profitablitly in a region of 1-1.5 million people as compared to a region of 4 million plus?

    Just like the Sonics move to OKC. Its not a bad move 5 years from now, or even 10 years from now…. but think about 30 years down the line. Would you really rather be in Vegas as opposed to being in one of the main tech hubs in the country AND one of the top 10 regional markets?

  3. No sports organization in the world does its fans as dirty as the NFL.
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    Seattle-ite here.

    I assure you, David Stern did us dirtier than this!!!

  4. Who/why would anybody vote no? Maybe Mara and Rooney? Approval appears to be a done deal. Jerry Jones has a lot of swag with the owners. Reportedly, his stadium construction company will build the new one. Jones wants this deal big time.

  5. wtfchiefs says:
    Mar 27, 2017 11:26 AM
    No sports organization in the world does its fans as dirty as the NFL. The entire sport is 100% about making 32 owners more money.

    I still don’t understand why fans have such an issue with business owners “making more money”? isn’t that the point of owning a business?
    is that not what Facebook, Apple, Google and countless other business do? Somehow the iPhone and Facebook are still popular…!

  6. “She said I’m sorry baby I’m leaving you tonight
    I found someone new he’s waitin’ in the car outside”
    — Cyndi Lauper “Money Changes Everything”

  7. Looking at the population of the Las Vega area and comparing it to the Bay area just doesn’t compute.

    Las Vegas is all about the tourism, I thought everybody knew this.

  8. For all you stupid people who have traveled to Vegas, but never got your drunk butt off the Strip, the entire Las Vegas area has 2.5-3 million people!

    I should know, I live in Vegas

  9. Colts Leave Baltimore, Cardinals leave St Louis, Rams leave LA, Browns leave Cleveland, Rams leave St Louis, now the Chargers and the Raiders. The NFL is a business, not about the fans…won’t change unless people vote with their $$$.

  10. joetoronto says:
    Mar 27, 2017 11:38 AM

    Looking at the population of the Las Vega area and comparing it to the Bay area just doesn’t compute.

    Las Vegas is all about the tourism, I thought everybody knew this.
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    Doesn’t matter, you won’t be able to go see them in Vegas. You have to have a job first.

  11. This didn’t have to happen. The “stadium committee” is fraudulent. Please name one team they have “saved” from moving.

  12. It’s an honor to be a fan of the only team in all of professional sports, who can never be moved, because there’s no owner who can move them. Hint … it’s not the Vikings. R-E-L-A-X.

  13. People say why would the Raiders leave the #6 market to go to Las Vegas. It’s quite simple; survival.

    Living in the 49ers’ shadow is too cold. No team can survive. The Bay Area is ours.

    Oakland is 49ers territory.

    49ers 2017
    “We run teams outta town”.

  14. A Vote for a Las Vegas move will disgrace all of the Pro Sports World!

    Gambling, Prostitution, Organized Crime, Drugs…all are associated with Las Vegas.

    SAY NO TO VEGAS!!!

  15. The Raiders are not like any other team.

    They are a Nation.They are a Culture.

    I wish that they stayed in Oakland ( I don’t even live in California),but the Nation will surge in Dominance as a result of this move.

    As the Great Al Davis said,”We don’t adjust,we Dominate!”

  16. Come on PFT. Wise guys these days don’t have to live in LV. They could run a fix in Boise Idaho if they wanted to. Players will soon learn that the Strip Clubs and bars on the Strip are way overrated and over priced. They are set up for tourists to blow their money.

  17. wtfchiefs says:
    Mar 27, 2017 11:26 AM
    No sports organization in the world does its fans as dirty as the NFL. The entire sport is 100% about making 32 owners more money.
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    The entire “business” is 100% about making the 32 owners more money. What business isn’t about make the owners more money?

    That being said, this isn’t just about making more money.

    The Raiders’ stadium is the worst in the league. It is also the only one in the NFL that shares with a baseball team.

    The Raiders don’t want to leave. Oakland either can’t or won’t put up the money needed for a stadium.

    The same thing happened in San Diego. The citizens voted twice against funding a new stadium.

  18. lunarpie says:
    Mar 27, 2017 11:52 AM
    Gambling, Prostitution, Organized Crime, Drugs…all are associated with Las Vegas.
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    You can find all of those in most cities with pro franchises.

  19. iamtheoven says:
    Mar 27, 2017 11:27 AM
    Las Vegas isn’t the only NFL city with casinos. Florio’s points 1 and 2 are already invalid.
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    There’s something new.

  20. The gambling argument is so lame. There is already gambling in several NFL cities. Gambling is everywhere these days. Here in Kansas City we have 3 casinos on the Missouri side near Arrowhead stadium and 1 in Kansas City Ks.

    “Gambling” as an issue just seems like a weak argument in 2017. 40-50 years ago I think youd have a point Florio.

  21. ALL of the vices, temptations and assorted wicked opportunities are readily available in current NFL cities so spare us the hand wringing and woe about a professional sports team relocating there.

  22. billswillnevermove says:
    Mar 27, 2017 11:47 AM
    joetoronto says:
    Mar 27, 2017 11:38 AM

    Looking at the population of the Las Vega area and comparing it to the Bay area just doesn’t compute.

    Las Vegas is all about the tourism, I thought everybody knew this.
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    Doesn’t matter, you won’t be able to go see them in Vegas. You have to have a job first.
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    That comment is gold! JoeToronto always talks about how bad the Bills are and is still salty they didn’t move to Toronto. Now the Raiders are moving again. Oh, Joey.

  23. “I wish that they stayed in Oakland ( I don’t even live in California),but the Nation will surge in Dominance as a result of this move.

    As the Great Al Davis said,”We don’t adjust,we Dominate!”
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    They may dominate anywhere, but not in 49er territory. They’re to weak to compete with Niner Empire for the #6 Market.

    To the few Raiders fans that exist in the Bay Area; don’t worry about it. Kyle Shanahan and John Lynch are going put such a great product on The field that you would all forget about that glorified “Moms and Pops store” you all considered an NFL franchise.

    49ers2017

    March 27th, 2017 – The Days 49ers conquered the Oakland territory from the Raiders.

  24. 49ersfury says:
    Mar 27, 2017 11:52 AM
    People say why would the Raiders leave the #6 market to go to Las Vegas. It’s quite simple; survival.

    Living in the 49ers’ shadow is too cold. No team can survive. The Bay Area is ours.

    Oakland is 49ers territory.

    49ers 2017
    “We run teams outta town”.

    NOW THAT’S FUNNY..! In December I was at the NFL store in downtown San Francisco and Raider gear was selling like crazy while 49er’s gear was 40% off..!

    The 49er’s are a joke..!

  25. Whenever you combine California and the NFL nothing but plague, misery and disaster seem to be the outcome.

    You have more issues with teams in California than the rest of the country combined it seems.

  26. Next year will be a vote for the San Diego Panthers then followed by the San Antonio Saints & Finally the London Jaguars.
    Go Las Vegas Raiders formerly of Oakland formerly of Los Angeles formerly of Oakland.
    NFL – No Freaking Loyalty

  27. By the way.

    Gambling will probably be legal by the end of the decade. Nobody is going to have to go to the middle of the desert to gamble. Good luck with thinking that Las Vegas will be able to sustain an NFL Franchise when that happens.

  28. ireallydontcareonesinglebit says:
    Mar 27, 2017 11:18 AM

    Why are none of these supposed concerns brought up about New Jersey? There are two teams playing in that state where gambling is legal so why is Vegas so special?
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    Probably because New Jersey and other gambling states do not have sports betting.

  29. jstew0103 says:
    Mar 27, 2017 11:25 AM
    Sorry Oakland fans, I couldn’t imagine how I’d feel if my favorite team moved away.

    Twice…

  30. It does not take a team being in Vegas, to know some of these games are being manipulated by the refs. The integrity of the NFL has been pretty bad over the past few years. That is the real reason people are tuning out. People don’t believe what they are watching anymore.

  31. I still don’t understand why fans have such an issue with business owners “making more money”? isn’t that the point of owning a business?
    is that not what Facebook, Apple, Google and countless other business do? Somehow the iPhone and Facebook are still popular…!
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    As a business owner I agree. However I would not screw over my longtime loyal clients to improve profits. There are other ways to “make money” without screwing over people that have supported your for years.

  32. let me say if i am an owner and i have to vote if i want to split 350 million, or nothing- hmmmm tough decision

    i will also add if Oakland has a viable plan the owners should at the very least weigh it out.

  33. 49ersfury says:
    Mar 27, 2017 12:10 PM
    “I wish that they stayed in Oakland ( I don’t even live in California),but the Nation will surge in Dominance as a result of this move.

    As the Great Al Davis said,”We don’t adjust,we Dominate!”
    /////////////////////////

    They may dominate anywhere, but not in 49er territory. They’re to weak to compete with Niner Empire for the #6 Market.

    To the few Raiders fans that exist in the Bay Area; don’t worry about it. Kyle Shanahan and John Lynch are going put such a great product on The field that you would all forget about that glorified “Moms and Pops store” you all considered an NFL franchise.

    49ers2017

    March 27th, 2017 – The Days 49ers conquered the Oakland territory from the Raiders.
    – – – – – – – – – – – – – — – – –
    Two things-
    1-so when the niners start to win again, are you going to shake the dust off from your niner stuff buried in your closet along with all the other niner fans?

    2- I am just waiting for the Raiders to play the San Jose 49ers there in the south bay—-we will see who fills the stands

  34. The good thing for the NFL here is that the Las Vegas Golden Knights will be playing NHL hockey next season and the NFL can use that franchise to learn from.

  35. @ 49er Fury.

    1st off. You are the Santa Clara 49ers.

    2nd. You moved 30 miles south and no one attends that heat stroke of a stadium, not even the so called 9er faithful. So tell me again how do you run the bay? when you can’t even get your own fans thru the door.

    3rd. Please stop it. You are embarrassing your self and your fellow 9er fans, PS I think your whole organization has embarrassed you guys enough.

  36. The problem with the desert is that Clark County is very isolated and has only 2.1 million residents – about 70% of Nevada’s population (3 million). The Los Angeles-Orange-Ventura-County market has 14 million people. The San Francisco-Oakland-San Jose-Sacramento area has a population of about 9 million.

    The driving distance between San Bernardino County (as it is the only county between Los Angeles and Clark) and it’s largest cities, which make up half of it’s 2.1 million residents and Las Vegas is about 200 miles (vs about 60 miles to Inglewood). If the Raiders would look at San Diego instead, the population reach mixed with Orange County would be 6.5 million. The Phoenix metropolitian are has over 4 million. Denver metroplitan has 3 million. Cincinnati, Kansas City, Cleveland and Indianapolis metro’s have about 2.1 million. But Las Vegas is very different and extremely isolated.

    Fan support in Vegas will not be what people think as most are transplants supporting other teams. It’s definitely a blue collar working class city, but the money needed to fill the seats would have to come from corporate sponsors, who tend to not fill stadiums (so the team is not building fan support). Relying on PSL’s and soft corporate support to fund your operating budget is ridiculous.

  37. The Packers will never leave Green Bay because WE own the team, suckers🎉🏋️‍♀️👍👌💪🏆😎

  38. The Raiders don’t want to leave. Oakland either can’t or won’t put up the money needed for a stadium.
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    Mark Davis has spent more time flirting with San Antonio, Carson, L.A. and Las Vegas than he has negotiating with Oakland.

    Oakland put the money up 20 years ago to bring the Raiders back and is still on the hook for almost 100 million.

    I am sure the #football is family league will make sure Oakland gets paid that 100 million.

    This deal smells for so many reasons. The Raiders currently have a waiting list in Oakland for 14,000-20,000 season tickets. The NFL with all their billions should have stepped in and help broker a deal. Instead Jerry Jones will make money building the stadium and the city of Oakland is left holding the bag.

    If the league was smart they would use Las Vegas as the site for Sunday night football. 16 games with each team “hosting” over a 2 year period.

    Big money rules and it stinks.

  39. I don’t like to see any city lose their team, but frankly Oakland can’t afford to offer a better deal. That’s the bottom line.

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