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Patriots need to find space for fifth Super Bowl banner

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It’s a good problem to have.

The Patriots will display their fifth Super Bowl championship banner at Gillette Stadium this year, but they don’t have space for it. As the four Super Bowl banners they’ve already hung are currently placed, there’s no room for any more.

Mike Reiss of ESPN reports that the Patriots are considering design plans on how to make room to display the fifth Super Bowl banner.

Two years ago the Patriots moved some things around to go from displaying three Super Bowl championships to four. Now they go from four to five, and they have more work to do.

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205 Responses to “Patriots need to find space for fifth Super Bowl banner”
  1. dinozzo27 says: Apr 10, 2017 5:30 AM

    Nothing like a story that will piss off the haters to start their week……love it

  2. flipola says: Apr 10, 2017 5:45 AM

    I know where they can put it.

  3. cromagarmy76 says: Apr 10, 2017 6:01 AM

    Life is hard.

  4. truninerfan49 says: Apr 10, 2017 6:02 AM

    I feel bad the pats are Having to go through this. I really hope everything works out

  5. rbisson2013 says: Apr 10, 2017 6:03 AM

    now that’s a good problem hope they design it to get 6 and 7 up there!!lol

  6. RandyinRoxbury says: Apr 10, 2017 6:14 AM

    The problems we have here, hehehe.

  7. redclaw1314 says: Apr 10, 2017 6:18 AM

    Probably should plan on more than five.

  8. mikespillane337 says: Apr 10, 2017 6:19 AM

    Just place them on the field instead of artificial turf….should cover it until next year at least.

  9. bostoncali says: Apr 10, 2017 6:20 AM

    touch being the City of Champions

  10. bostoncali says: Apr 10, 2017 6:20 AM

    *tough

  11. kissbillsrings says: Apr 10, 2017 6:24 AM

    ROGER THAT!!

  12. 345snarkavenue says: Apr 10, 2017 6:25 AM

    First comment, by dinozzo27, says it all.

  13. A happy green parrot says: Apr 10, 2017 6:28 AM

    flipola says:
    Apr 10, 2017 5:45 AM
    I know where they can put it.

    ———————-

    Well as far as troll comments go that one was pretty smooth. This fan gave it a thumbs up.

  14. drakost says: Apr 10, 2017 6:29 AM

    Is that like having no place to park your 5th car in your 4 car garage?

  15. frankmalzonefan says: Apr 10, 2017 6:29 AM

    The should call the grounds crew in Indy to see how they manage to display all those participation banners.

  16. bpurd says: Apr 10, 2017 6:34 AM

    Winning problems.

  17. exinsidetrader says: Apr 10, 2017 6:35 AM

    Where do the loser teams hang all their Participation Ribbons?

  18. nbptma1 says: Apr 10, 2017 6:43 AM

    Damn Straight . . . but where will numbers six, seven and eight go????

  19. wte1 says: Apr 10, 2017 6:48 AM

    I was so glad when they took down that 16-0 banner, threw it in the trash and replaced it with the 2014 banner.

  20. I Understand The Catch Rule says: Apr 10, 2017 6:48 AM

    Imagine the problems the Patriots would have if they hung banners for the same reasons the Colts did ……..

  21. nausetman says: Apr 10, 2017 6:48 AM

    Can you imagine the challenge if they followed the Colts and made participation banners – they would have 3 AFC Finalist banners, 9 AFC Championships and 4 Super Bowl Finalist banners!

  22. patriottony says: Apr 10, 2017 6:49 AM

    I have the same freaking problem…My game room is out of walls space…On one long wall is Celtics banners…On the other is PATS,,,,end walls are bruins and Sox…ALL THESE WORLD CHAMPIONSHIPS ARE GETTING OUT OF CONTROL…

  23. mannyiac says: Apr 10, 2017 6:51 AM

    The Patriots would really have a space problem if they tried to hang “Participation” banners up like the Colts do.

  24. Flash1287 says: Apr 10, 2017 6:51 AM

    Ha ha ha ….. suck it crybabies!!!!!!!!

    TB12 = GOAT

  25. skankmeat says: Apr 10, 2017 6:57 AM

    Combine them all in one and call it SUPAH CHEATER!

  26. davebarnes21 says: Apr 10, 2017 7:04 AM

    hahahahahaha,,… oh boy…. thats hilarious.

    hopefully the Patriot organization is forward thinking enough to leave room for another 4 more while theyre at it.

  27. patsfiend says: Apr 10, 2017 7:05 AM

    Set it up ahead of time for #6. Plan ahead.

  28. bulldog0402 says: Apr 10, 2017 7:06 AM

    Trade the banner for a first round pick

  29. weepingjebus says: Apr 10, 2017 7:07 AM

    I can wear it around the stadium like a cape if that helps.

  30. xlivsaints says: Apr 10, 2017 7:11 AM

    #firstworldproblems

  31. duffelbagsports says: Apr 10, 2017 7:18 AM

    I would hang it opposite Roger Goodell’s office in New York

  32. yourunclerico says: Apr 10, 2017 7:28 AM

    The banners would fit in most stadiums, however the pats had to add * to each one of them which caused them to be larger than normal size.

  33. otheirony says: Apr 10, 2017 7:34 AM

    Don’t plan for more Patriots. Be humble. Make room for one. You don’t want to jinx anything or tick off the football gods.

    Then next year, you can have the same problem and do this again.

    Be humble. One at a time.

  34. midnightcusk says: Apr 10, 2017 7:38 AM

    Maybe let Atlanta hang it in the OCs office for 15/16ths of the upcoming season?

  35. whybotherifeverythinggetscensored says: Apr 10, 2017 7:43 AM

    Today, the Patriots announced a new $4,000,000,000 stadium that will be capable of holding all the banners.

  36. shadywarrior says: Apr 10, 2017 7:43 AM

    “Champagne problems”, amirite? Lmao. Just lmao.

  37. uncommon1 says: Apr 10, 2017 7:44 AM

    Mauricio Ortega could hang on to it while they figure it out.

  38. denverdave3 says: Apr 10, 2017 7:47 AM

    This hard core Bronco fan would like to think it’s time for the Pats to roll over and go back to the basement where they once resided, but the truth is they have risen to the ranks of the elite. They make most of their opponents, and therefore the entire game, better.

    Maybe in forty years Detroit, or Jacksonville or Cleveland or the Chargers will break the Patriot records, but I won’t be here to see it, so I’m going to keep circling the Bronco/Patriot games on my calendars and enjoying football history in the making.

  39. u4iadman says: Apr 10, 2017 7:49 AM

    Take away the ones for cheating and you have an empty space.

  40. duffelbagsports says: Apr 10, 2017 7:54 AM

    Not to mention Brady will have to wear one of his 5 rings on his thumb.

  41. ducknichols50 says: Apr 10, 2017 7:57 AM

    Im good….we have the Super Bowl 20 banner in Chicago. Its a little faded and we may have to find a place to put up a replacement banner, but we have that one.

  42. ikeclanton says: Apr 10, 2017 8:04 AM

    yourunclerico says:
    Apr 10, 2017 7:28 AM
    The banners would fit in most stadiums, however the pats had to add * to each one of them which caused them to be larger than normal size.

    ——

    This nonsense proves it–we could hang them where they reside anyway–in the space between your ears

  43. brwmstr says: Apr 10, 2017 8:06 AM

    They can always call the Colts….they are always rearranging for their participation banners so they might have some good tips…..

  44. wib22 says: Apr 10, 2017 8:08 AM

    Then the Patriots’ coach, Bill Belichick, the cheating program’s mastermind, spoke. He said he had merely misinterpreted a league rule, explaining that he thought it was legal to videotape opposing teams’ signals as long as the material wasn’t used in real time. Few in the room bought it. Belichick said he had made a mistake — “my mistake.”

    *tainted titles

  45. officialgame says: Apr 10, 2017 8:12 AM

    They can always give tiny pieces of the banner to their fans who think they are on the roster.

  46. pastabelly says: Apr 10, 2017 8:13 AM

    I hope Brady can get one more and they’re not just planning for five. It’s hard to believe Gillette Stadium is 15 years old. It’s still such a great venue, but I would prefer they put in escalators than finding and designing spaces for banners.

  47. 12coltsfan12 says: Apr 10, 2017 8:14 AM

    oh yeah?! well we’re running out of room for participation banners in INDY!

  48. More Cowbell says: Apr 10, 2017 8:23 AM

    patriottony says:
    Apr 10, 2017 6:49 AM
    I have the same freaking problem…My game room is out of walls space…On one long wall is Celtics banners…On the other is PATS,,,,end walls are bruins and Sox…ALL THESE WORLD CHAMPIONSHIPS ARE GETTING OUT OF CONTROL…

    —————–

    Oh where is the humanity!

  49. tylawspick6 says: Apr 10, 2017 8:30 AM

    oh yeah?! well we’re running out of room for participation banners in INDY!

    ———

    LOL!!

  50. tylawspick6 says: Apr 10, 2017 8:41 AM

    wib22 says:
    Apr 10, 2017 8:08 AM
    Then the Patriots’ coach, Bill Belichick, the cheating program’s mastermind, spoke. He said he had merely misinterpreted a league rule, explaining that he thought it was legal to videotape opposing teams’ signals as long as the material wasn’t used in real time. Few in the room bought it. Belichick said he had made a mistake — “my mistake.”

    *tainted titles

    ————————-

    2010:

    Bill Cowher: “You know, let me just say this: To answer your question, no, I don’t think so (it’s not an advantage for one team over another).
    I just know as a head coach, you are always looking for a competitive edge. We had people out there trying to look at signals. We had guys go to games. They would tape the signal caller and also write it down. They would take it back and match up the signals with the game film and certain defenses with certain plays that were being called, particularly the defenses being called, to see if we could come up with some kind of an alert for a signal. So, what they did with videotaping the signal caller, people do it with the people in the stands!!
    These people sitting there in the stands, looking at the signal, writing it down and matching up the 1st and 10 signal. Ok? Then you go back again and the 2nd and 10 and here’s the signal. You do that for a whole game.
    You then go back and match up the defenses with the signal. And you can come up with what the signal was.
    So, you don;’t need a video tape with what they were talking about doing. And people were doing it. WE were doing that. Everybody does that. You’re TRYING to gain a competitive edge. There is nothing wrong with that.
    That’s why baseball players go through the mirage of signals. They’ve got all these different codes. That’s part of the competitive spirit of the game. I think it’s totally overblown. I think if you get caught (signals compromised), then do what we did and go to wristbands, you are worried about it. We started putting defenses on wristbands. Then you find a way to not get caught (signals compromised). When your good at something and people try steal from ya, I think it’s flattering.”

  51. shadywarrior says: Apr 10, 2017 8:42 AM

    uncommon1 says:
    Apr 10, 2017 7:44 AM
    Mauricio Ortega could hang on to it while they figure it out.

    11 0
    Report comment
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    This man just won the Internet. Shut it down for the day, boys.

  52. ikeclanton says: Apr 10, 2017 8:47 AM

    wib22 says:
    Apr 10, 2017 8:08 AM
    Then the Patriots’ coach, Bill Belichick, the cheating program’s mastermind, spoke. He said he had merely misinterpreted a league rule, explaining that he thought it was legal to videotape opposing teams’ signals as long as the material wasn’t used in real time. Few in the room bought it. Belichick said he had made a mistake — “my mistake.”

    *tainted titles

    —–

    wib-chip-Randy-(insert all your other nutty psuedonyms here),

    If you count all the complaining about magic asterisks, conversations with yourself under different names, and your apparently incurable loser’s lament, your comments still aren’t worth a velvet painting of a whale and a dolphin getting it on. At last check this morning, the Patriots remain Super Bowl champs. You can check if you like.

    I say that with all due respect of course.

  53. TeamFirst says: Apr 10, 2017 8:49 AM

    wib22 says:
    Apr 10, 2017 8:08 AM
    Then the Patriots’ coach, Bill Belichick, the cheating program’s mastermind, spoke. He said he had merely misinterpreted a league rule, explaining that he thought it was legal to videotape opposing teams’ signals as long as the material wasn’t used in real time. Few in the room bought it. Belichick said he had made a mistake — “my mistake.”
    —————————
    All teams tape. It’s allowed. Teams are allowed to tape opposing team signals, from an enclosed room, not the sidelines. It is in the rule book. You know that. You just post dribble like this to get an angry reaction and rack up the “thumbs downs”. It’s boring. Just call him Belicheat and pat yourself on the back for being unoriginal.

  54. ariani1985 says: Apr 10, 2017 8:53 AM

    Rodgers is GOAT

  55. kissbillsrings says: Apr 10, 2017 8:54 AM

    5 Lombardi’s & STILL GOING….
    Brady should wear the banner as a cape…..SUPER BRADY!!!! SB….like in Super Bowl…..looks like destiny to me!!!
    Enjoy!!!! I know I do!!!!

  56. tgoat12 says: Apr 10, 2017 8:54 AM

    We have universal healthcare, lowest unemployment rate in the world, and the highest educated population! Banner problems are our problems. Oh, and trump lost our state 83-17!!! Rest of the country take notice!

  57. wib22 says: Apr 10, 2017 8:56 AM

    “This isn’t about deflating balls. … It’s an issue of if there is a culture of cheating at the organization that most people look at as the gold standard in this league. Is there a culture of cheating and breaking the rules?”
    Marty Hurney, former GM of the Carolina Panthers

  58. dodgerlakerfan1969 says: Apr 10, 2017 8:57 AM

    Remember when Tom Brady vs Peyton Manning was a debate? The choke artist Peyton could only dream of doing the things Brady has done in the playoffs. Lol.

  59. tylawspick6 says: Apr 10, 2017 8:59 AM

    All teams tape. It’s allowed. Teams are allowed to tape opposing team signals, from an enclosed room, not the sidelines. It is in the rule book. You know that. You just post dribble like this to get an angry reaction and rack up the “thumbs downs”. It’s boring. Just call him Belicheat and pat yourself on the back for being unoriginal.

    ——–

    Correct, but it’s not necessarily an “enclosed room”. The camera needs an enclosure on the perimeter to limit any wandering eyes of people in power aka coaches or decision makers.
    That’s the locations are important as well, too.
    But, Goodell lied. He knew BB was messing with Manboobs from the original incident in January of 2007 in Foxborough.

    Goodell cheated, as have the owners forcing him to do bring faux scandals to the surface via ESPN, to cheat the Pats for parity purposes.

    Yes. Well documented now at this point.

    Goodell has been caught red handed along with the owners involved.

    Woody Johnson can work for Trump all day and try to scurry away from his NFL corruption with Roger, but real NFL fans know the truth.

  60. tylawspick6 says: Apr 10, 2017 9:01 AM

    “This isn’t about deflating balls. … It’s an issue of if there is a culture of cheating at the organization that most people look at as the gold standard in this league. Is there a culture of cheating and breaking the rules?”
    Marty Hurney, former GM of the Carolina Panthers

    ——————

    Says the GM whose kicker kicked it out of bounds and whose team was on steroids in 2003.

    LOL

    There are lots of butthurt liars in the NFL, and many of whom were POOR at their jobs, including MArty Hurney.

    If he dealt Peppers for just a 1st rder in 2009 and did not sign Delohommer to a huge deal after his 5 INT game vs Arizoan, that moron might still be employed.

    Losers claim there is this mystery “cheating” going on.

    Winners win.

  61. Flash1287 says: Apr 10, 2017 9:01 AM

    wib22 says:
    Apr 10, 2017 8:56 AM
    “This isn’t about deflating balls. … It’s an issue of if there is a culture of cheating at the organization that most people look at as the gold standard in this league. Is there a culture of cheating and breaking the rules?”
    Marty Hurney, former GM of the Carolina Panthers

    #newoffseasoncrybaby

  62. blessedunliketherest says: Apr 10, 2017 9:05 AM

    Rodgers is GOAT
    __________________________________________

    GOAT of what? He was taken out of the game against the Falcons two weeks before the SB for some backup scrub. Brady orchestrated a 31 point comeback in unprecedented style against the same team. Some guys have it, some don’t. I’ll let you figure out who is who.

    Plus, isn’t this argument moot when Rodgers himself, just a few weeks ago, already declared Brady is the GOAT? And we all know how humble Rodgers can be.

  63. tylawspick6 says: Apr 10, 2017 9:07 AM

    “hogwash” – Chuck Knox (on Spygate)

    Gee, do I believe longstanding and respected former NFL coaches or a pathological liar commissioner who is caught lying in federal courts every year?

  64. wib22 says: Apr 10, 2017 9:09 AM

    “Our focus isn’€™t even there at all, but you’€™re always looking at having a competitive playing field,’€™’€™ Irsay told Kravitz. “I remember in Peyton (Manning’s) day, there was an unnamed team (the Patriots), we were running the no huddle and the team we were playing was faking injuries to slow us down.

  65. uglydingo says: Apr 10, 2017 9:12 AM

    Actually we need to find the space for another 10 Super Bowl banners. And the funny thing is that finding the space for the banners is the biggest problem that the Patriots have to deal with.

  66. tomtravis76 says: Apr 10, 2017 9:13 AM

    That’s hilarious, if you are on top, soak it in. Every fan base would love this story if their team put this out on a Monday in April.

  67. tqaztec says: Apr 10, 2017 9:14 AM

    They should take them all down and just have TB’s jersey hanging.

  68. tylawspick6 says: Apr 10, 2017 9:15 AM

    “Our focus isn’€™t even there at all, but you’€™re always looking at having a competitive playing field,’€™’€™ Irsay told Kravitz. “I remember in Peyton (Manning’s) day, there was an unnamed team (the Patriots), we were running the no huddle and the team we were playing was faking injuries to slow us down.

    —————

    1. Irsay is the source. LOL
    2. Yes, no other team ever faked an injury to stop the clock.

    Oh, whatever will the world do, where an athlete fakes an injury or takes a timeout to stunt momentum of the other team.

    The horror!

  69. tylawspick6 says: Apr 10, 2017 9:16 AM

    Maybe Irsay can sign off on pumping in crowd noise or working with the commissioner on framing another team to distract and steal draft picks, after his team gets pasted again?

    Just who are the cheaters here, hmm Chippy?

  70. bvolke says: Apr 10, 2017 9:23 AM

    Hope there’s still room for all this asterisks too.

  71. wib22 says: Apr 10, 2017 9:34 AM

    Days before the Tampa Bay game, in Belichick’s office, Friesz was told that the Patriots had a tape of the Bucs’ signals. He was instructed to memorize them, and during the game, to watch Bucs defensive coordinator Monte Kiffin and tell Weis the defensive play, which Weis would relay over the radio headset system to quarterback Drew Bledsoe. That Sunday against the Bucs, Walsh later told investigators, the Patriots played more no-huddle than usual, forcing Kiffin to signal in plays quickly, allowing Weis sufficient time to relay the information. Years later, some Patriots coaches would point to the score — a 21-16 Bucs win — as evidence of Spygate’s ineffectiveness. But as Walsh later told investigators, Friesz, who did not respond to messages to comment for this story, told Walsh after the game that the Patriots knew 75 percent of the Bucs’ defenses before the snap.

    Explain this

  72. rconatser1 says: Apr 10, 2017 9:38 AM

    Just put up the one banner they didn’t cheat to get.

  73. tylawspick6 says: Apr 10, 2017 9:40 AM

    Days before the Tampa Bay game, in Belichick’s office, Friesz was told that the Patriots had a tape of the Bucs’ signals. He was instructed to memorize them, and during the game, to watch Bucs defensive coordinator Monte Kiffin and tell Weis the defensive play, which Weis would relay over the radio headset system to quarterback Drew Bledsoe. That Sunday against the Bucs, Walsh later told investigators, the Patriots played more no-huddle than usual, forcing Kiffin to signal in plays quickly, allowing Weis sufficient time to relay the information. Years later, some Patriots coaches would point to the score — a 21-16 Bucs win — as evidence of Spygate’s ineffectiveness. But as Walsh later told investigators, Friesz, who did not respond to messages to comment for this story, told Walsh after the game that the Patriots knew 75 percent of the Bucs’ defenses before the snap.

    Explain this

    ———-

    Source?

  74. tylawspick6 says: Apr 10, 2017 9:41 AM

    Hope there’s still room for all this asterisks too.

    ————–

    There is a special banner for those with really low IQs. That’s for you and your delicate sensibilities.

  75. A happy green parrot says: Apr 10, 2017 9:49 AM

    I Understand The Catch Rule says:
    Apr 10, 2017 6:48 AM
    Imagine the problems the Patriots would have if they hung banners for the same reasons the Colts did ……..

    ————————–

    It wouldnt be a problem. When the Patriots participate they get the banner for winning anyhow.

  76. A happy green parrot says: Apr 10, 2017 9:53 AM

    wib22 says:
    Apr 10, 2017 8:56 AM
    “This isn’t about deflating balls. … It’s an issue of if there is a culture of cheating at the organization that most people look at as the gold standard in this league. Is there a culture of cheating and breaking the rules?”
    Marty Hurney, former GM of the Carolina Panthers

    —————-

    Yes, note how he phrased his statement to present as a question so that he could not be held accountable for it. Next time at the grocery store note how the National Enquirer uses the same trick so they can suggest some celebrity has an alien love baby without getting in trouble for it.

  77. cheetasnevaprospa says: Apr 10, 2017 9:56 AM

    Put it next to the “WE CHEATED” banner

  78. wib22 says: Apr 10, 2017 9:56 AM

    Source?

    ****
    bucsnation article:
    Patriots started Spygate against the Buccaneers, but couldn’t win

    Can’t post links, so search those words.

    Very sad that belicheat did this!

  79. tylawspick6 says: Apr 10, 2017 10:03 AM

    bucsnation article:
    Patriots started Spygate against the Buccaneers, but couldn’t win

    Can’t post links, so search those words.

    Very sad that belicheat did this!

    ——————–

    Yes, just like when, according to Rolling Stone magazine in 2013, Belichick met with Hernandez at the Combine in Indy, to suggest Hernandez to “get yourself a flophouse”…LMAO

    Sometimes things sound made up, because they are made up.

    Ya see, when you get to college, you’ll learn the importance of a primary source, as opposed to heresay, speculation and people who have agendas who mix in half-truths for effect because of said agenda.

    IN turn, going to college will allow you to discern who is full of crap in this world and who isn’t, alongside getting a degree, even if it is basket weaving for you.

    What do you think your IQ is? Do you think it’s close to 100, or closer to Forrest Gump’s of 75?

  80. superpatriotsfan says: Apr 10, 2017 10:07 AM

    Those * took up some space as well.

  81. fjw2 says: Apr 10, 2017 10:08 AM

    wib22 says:
    Apr 10, 2017 9:34 AM
    Days before the Tampa Bay game, in Belichick’s office, Friesz was told that the Patriots had a tape of the Bucs’ signals. He was instructed to memorize them, and during the game, to watch Bucs defensive coordinator Monte Kiffin and tell Weis the defensive play, which Weis would relay over the radio headset system to quarterback Drew Bledsoe. That Sunday against the Bucs, Walsh later told investigators, the Patriots played more no-huddle than usual, forcing Kiffin to signal in plays quickly, allowing Weis sufficient time to relay the information. Years later, some Patriots coaches would point to the score — a 21-16 Bucs win — as evidence of Spygate’s ineffectiveness. But as Walsh later told investigators, Friesz, who did not respond to messages to comment for this story, told Walsh after the game that the Patriots knew 75 percent of the Bucs’ defenses before the snap.

    Explain this

    ———–

    It’s called “scouting”, and every single team from the dawn of creation tries to scout the other team’s signals. There is nothing illegal, nefarious, or even unexpected that the opposing team would have previously looked at game films to see what defenses their upcoming opponent is likely to employ, and if the team is coached by simpletons who do not regularly alter their signals, learning the opponent’s signals is a smart thing to do. If you can’t come up with a means to signal plays onto the field that doesn’t give away what you’re doing you have no business being a professional coach.

  82. nepatriot1 says: Apr 10, 2017 10:08 AM

    cheetasnevaprospa says:
    Apr 10, 2017 9:56 AM
    Put it next to the “WE CHEATED” banner
    —————-
    Why would the Patriots hang their championship banners in Denver? That makes no sense.

  83. tigerlilac says: Apr 10, 2017 10:10 AM

    In the old Boston Garden, owned by the Bruins, they put up all the divisional Bruins banners. It was a sea of yellow.

    The Celtics put up only their NBA championship banners and the the matrix of retired numbers.

    The contrast between the class of two franchises, even for a kid who grew up worshipping Orr and Sanderson, was striking.

  84. wib22 says: Apr 10, 2017 10:17 AM

    • “During pregame warm-ups, a low-level Patriots employee would sneak into the visiting locker room and steal the play sheet, listing the first 20 or so scripted calls for the opposing team’s offense. (The practice became so notorious that some coaches put out fake play sheets for the Patriots to swipe.)”

  85. lyfordjr says: Apr 10, 2017 10:18 AM

    “‘It’s an issue of if there is a culture of cheating at the organization that most people look at as the gold standard in this league. Is there a culture of cheating and breaking the rules?”

    And the answer is clearly, “no, there isn’t.” If there were, the NFL wouldn’t have to over-punish for trivia and then make stuff up…

  86. crush22 says: Apr 10, 2017 10:19 AM

    kissbillsrings says:
    Apr 10, 2017 6:24 AM
    ROGER THAT!!
    _____________
    You Patsie* girls still saying that?
    It wasn’t funny to begin with, let alone 2 years later.

  87. somehomer says: Apr 10, 2017 10:23 AM

    Ohhh but The Banner will be hung and it will be glorius !

  88. tylawspick6 says: Apr 10, 2017 10:26 AM

    • “During pregame warm-ups, a low-level Patriots employee would sneak into the visiting locker room and steal the play sheet, listing the first 20 or so scripted calls for the opposing team’s offense. (The practice became so notorious that some coaches put out fake play sheets for the Patriots to swipe.)”

    ————-

    LMAO

    More made up garbage.

    George Halas had been doing that for years, before BB was even born.

    Not to mention, every NFL coach that ever came into the NFL.

    None of this stuff you post is relative specifically to the Patriots, so there is no advantage just for NE.

    Get it, dummy?

  89. kenberthiaume says: Apr 10, 2017 10:26 AM

    But as Walsh later told investigators, Friesz, who did not respond to messages to comment for this story, told Walsh after the game that the Patriots knew 75 percent of the Bucs’ defenses before the snap.
    ——–
    I don’t know, maybe the Pats “stole” their signals. Even Saint Tony Dungy said his team did the same thing, or tried to. No cameras needed, just write down their signals as they are relayed and look at the defense later.

    It’s on Tampa Bay. They were too stupid to change their signals or use activating signals (ie give 5 signals and tell the defense it’s the signal after I touch my knee, etc., then change it up in a few plays to the play after I touch my hat).

    They literally gave one signal to their defense, no attempt at obfuscation and they didn’t change their signals from one game to the next.

    This is high school stuff. Nothing illegal about it al ALL. So suck it.

  90. wib22 says: Apr 10, 2017 10:27 AM

    Adams, the Patriots’ Football Research Director, is Belichick’s closest adviser. He doesn’t coach, but he has his own direct phone line to Belichick during games, and his reclusive nature, nebulous job title and role in Spygate have led people around the league to speculate on what else he is up to. Even longtime Patriots employees are not sure exactly what he does.

    I’m sorry, but there’s enough suspicion to make these valid claims.

  91. weepingjebus says: Apr 10, 2017 10:27 AM

    The only banners with asterisks are the Colts participation banners, because if you watch those games you can see they didn’t really participate.

  92. kenberthiaume says: Apr 10, 2017 10:29 AM

    “During pregame warm-ups, a low-level Patriots employee would sneak into the visiting locker room and steal the play sheet, listing the first 20 or so scripted calls for the opposing team’s offense. (The practice became so notorious that some coaches put out fake play sheets for the Patriots to swipe.)”
    —-
    Most teams don’t script 20 plays. And no team would leave playbooks unattended in a locker room. Yeah, “during pre game warm ups”…”yeah guys, we’re going out for warm ups, just leave all your notes, playbooks etc in the locker room….while every single one of us goes out on the field”. Clown stuff.

  93. julyeast says: Apr 10, 2017 10:29 AM

    why was this not an issue for the Niners? and why is this not an issue for Pitt with 6?

  94. julyeast says: Apr 10, 2017 10:30 AM

    I have the perfect place: HERNANDEZ’S PRISON CELL

  95. tylawspick6 says: Apr 10, 2017 10:30 AM

    It’s called “scouting”, and every single team from the dawn of creation tries to scout the other team’s signals. There is nothing illegal, nefarious, or even unexpected that the opposing team would have previously looked at game films to see what defenses their upcoming opponent is likely to employ, and if the team is coached by simpletons who do not regularly alter their signals, learning the opponent’s signals is a smart thing to do. If you can’t come up with a means to signal plays onto the field that doesn’t give away what you’re doing you have no business being a professional coach.

    ——–

    Yes, it is, however, you can tell whoever wrote that piece, added in extra lies mixed in as half-truths to make it seem sinister.

    Here is how you can tell the Weis part about the headset is a lie:

    If NE had 75% of the Buccaneers signals, why would they run a hurry up?

    See?

    When the people doing the framing try to get cute, they can’t even tell when they’re making fools of themselves with contradictory and nonsensical information.

    1. NE never would have lost the game if they had 75% of TB’s signals.

    2. Weis never would have had Bledsoe run the hurry up if they were waiting first to see what signal TB called.

    I mean, it’s just too easy.

    The fact the Chipster and other idiots can’t see through this, is very disturbing and is why our country just elected a moron as president.

    Our country is screwed. A whole generation of Millennials are not only gullible, they’re dumb.

  96. A happy green parrot says: Apr 10, 2017 10:33 AM

    wib22 says:
    Apr 10, 2017 9:56 AM
    Source?

    ****
    bucsnation article:
    Patriots started Spygate against the Buccaneers, but couldn’t win

    Can’t post links, so search those words.

    Very sad that belicheat did this!

    ———————–

    Who the heck is Belicheat? A Bucsnation writer apparently? Why is it sad he wrote that?

  97. fishyinalittledishy says: Apr 10, 2017 10:34 AM

    Really ! What big heads. There is plenty of room for banners or maybe they just want to gloat. I have done some work on this and believe they could have the two legit banners side by side and the third one they could easily kill two birds by fitting the 3 x * on the other. See not hard at all.

  98. alltee says: Apr 10, 2017 10:34 AM

    Days before the Tampa Bay game, in Belichick’s office, Friesz was told that the Patriots had a tape of the Bucs’ signals. He was instructed to memorize them, and during the game, to watch Bucs defensive coordinator Monte Kiffin and tell Weis the defensive play, which Weis would relay over the radio headset system to quarterback Drew Bledsoe. That Sunday against the Bucs, Walsh later told investigators, the Patriots played more no-huddle than usual, forcing Kiffin to signal in plays quickly, allowing Weis sufficient time to relay the information. Years later, some Patriots coaches would point to the score — a 21-16 Bucs win — as evidence of Spygate’s ineffectiveness. But as Walsh later told investigators, Friesz, who did not respond to messages to comment for this story, told Walsh after the game that the Patriots knew 75 percent of the Bucs’ defenses before the snap.

    Explain this

    ========================================

    first off i did google this story an read it, there is a major flaw in the story, the bucs are in an opposing conference, which means they only play each other every 4 years. obtaining signals isnt ilegal neither was taping them at the time, but assuming you still dont understand the specifics of the rules and taping is completely ilegal. how would the patriots have taped the bucs signals??? did they tape them from the game 4 years earlier?? this story doesnt even claim the signals were taped. so if you feel the patriots got a hold of the bucs signals then they did it legaly as there is no rule against obtaining the opposing teams signals, just certain rules on how not to obtain them

    rediculous story that doesnt even discuss what i mentioned or how the patriots obtained those signals

  99. justintuckrule says: Apr 10, 2017 10:35 AM

    Just shows what the builders thought of the team when they constructed that stadium.

  100. afifthlombardiforthehaters says: Apr 10, 2017 10:36 AM

    Imagine if they hung all the AFC CHAMPIONSHIP Banners !!!

    They’d have to rebuild half that section of the stadium….lol

  101. wib22 says: Apr 10, 2017 10:36 AM

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    TEAM: The New England Patriots

    SEVERITY:scale

    SUMMARY: Reported Micheal David Smith of ProFootballTalk.com: “Two former Patriots say the team put false information about them on official injury reports.”

    “Brandon Spikes and Aqib Talib have both said since leaving New England in free agency that when they were on the Patriots last year, the team gave them injury designations that weren’t accurate. Spikes ended last season on injured reserve with a knee injury, and there were reports that Patriots coach Bill Belichick actually put Spikes on IR because Spikes had shown up late to practice. Spikes seemed to confirm that in an interview on WGR in Buffalo.”

    Said Talib: “The Patriots have their way of reporting stuff, but I haven’t had a hip problem since Tampa, the injury I had was actually a quad injury. It was reported as a hip injury, but that’s how they do things.”

    *****

    Again, more bad stuff from the asterisks.

  102. harrisonhits2 says: Apr 10, 2017 10:37 AM

    “Very sad that belicheat did this!”

    Actually its very sad that you don’t understand stealing signals is a legal part of the game and long done by every single team in any sport that uses extensive signals.

    Can you imagine someone crying in baseball about signal stealing?

    Its the coaches job to study and interpret signals, formations, alignments, tendencies and everything else about they’re opponents. I guess you just don’t think its fair that mean ol’ Bill Belichick is so good at his job.

  103. simplec72 says: Apr 10, 2017 10:41 AM

    Ask the deflator! I’m sure he can fit it in somewhere.

  104. tylawspick6 says: Apr 10, 2017 10:43 AM

    SUMMARY: Reported Micheal David Smith of ProFootballTalk.com: “Two former Patriots say the team put false information about them on official injury reports.”

    “Brandon Spikes and Aqib Talib have both said since leaving New England in free agency that when they were on the Patriots last year, the team gave them injury designations that weren’t accurate. Spikes ended last season on injured reserve with a knee injury, and there were reports that Patriots coach Bill Belichick actually put Spikes on IR because Spikes had shown up late to practice. Spikes seemed to confirm that in an interview on WGR in Buffalo.”

    Said Talib: “The Patriots have their way of reporting stuff, but I haven’t had a hip problem since Tampa, the injury I had was actually a quad injury. It was reported as a hip injury, but that’s how they do things.”

    ————-

    Yes, Brandon Spikes and Aqib Talib are trustworthy sources.

    lmao

    Hey! I have a bridge I can sell you.

    Hint: Players are sensitive when becoming free agents and the leverage they want in contract negotiations, so they’ll lie to protect that.

    Meanwhile, to avoid embarrassing Spikes who was hurt, BB threw him a bone, benching him for being late, but just IR’ing him to save him the embarrassment.

    There is nothing against the rules with that. Every coach does stuff like this all the time.

    I mean, the mere thought that Aqib “Made of Glass Until Pumping Gomer’s Wife’s Chines Steroids From Guyer” Talib is your source, is beyond comical.

  105. patriots123456 says: Apr 10, 2017 10:44 AM

    PFT cranking up the “factory of haters” again…

    I’m loving it…

  106. factschecker says: Apr 10, 2017 10:45 AM

    Reading through the comments proves to me that some people need a reality check.

    Reality = 5 Super Bowls.
    Reality = No asterisks. No matter how many times you may type “asterisks” there are none.
    It is official. The rest of the football world has moved onto 2017 with or without you. The rest is, like it or not, “officially” history.

  107. wib22 says: Apr 10, 2017 10:45 AM

    2004: James Harrison calls out the Patriots for more signal stealing More claims of the Patriots having impossible information about the opposing team’s game plans came in 2004 via Steelers linebacker James Harrison. He said, I should have another ring. We were the best team in football in 2004, but the Patriots, who we beat during the regular season, stole our signals and picked up 90 percent of our blitzes [in the AFC title game]. They got busted for it later, but hey, they’re Goodell’s boys, so he slapped ’em $500,000 and burned the tapes. Was he going to rescind their Super Bowls? Man, hell no!

    ****

    I can go on and on of the biggest cases of opposing players and teams saying the pats cheated

  108. bullcharger says: Apr 10, 2017 10:47 AM

    wib22 says:
    Apr 10, 2017 8:56 AM
    “This isn’t about deflating balls. … It’s an issue of if there is a culture of cheating at the organization that most people look at as the gold standard in this league. Is there a culture of cheating and breaking the rules?”
    Marty Hurney, former GM of the Carolina Panthers

    ————-

    “As PFT noted back in March, the Panthers and Vikings were caught (literally) red-handed in late November, with ball boys using sideline, jet-engine, gates-of-hell heaters to warm footballs on a cold day in Minnesota.”

  109. wib22 says: Apr 10, 2017 10:48 AM

    The patriot way: Deny, deny, deny even when all evidence is in your face.
    Shula’s a hypocrite, but Montana > cheating brady.

  110. 345snarkavenue says: Apr 10, 2017 10:49 AM

    wib22 says:
    Apr 10, 2017 10:17 AM
    • “During pregame warm-ups, a low-level Patriots employee would sneak into the visiting locker room and steal the play sheet, listing the first 20 or so scripted calls for the opposing team’s offense. (The practice became so notorious that some coaches put out fake play sheets for the Patriots to swipe.)”

    ——

    Patriots have lost 21 of 128/ home games (regular season) in the past 16 seasons.

    14 of those came in the first 8 seasons, 7 in the last 8 seasons.

    those fake play sheets don’t seem to be working out very.

  111. tedmurph says: Apr 10, 2017 10:49 AM

    The main source of this nonsense is the ESPN article. It’s the one that accused the Patriots of everything under the sun, including warm Gaterade, stealing playsheets, bugging locker rooms and picking through trash. Without naming ONE source. Wrapping for fish.

  112. veddermn8 says: Apr 10, 2017 10:52 AM

    wib22 says:
    Apr 10, 2017 8:08 AM

    Then the Patriots’ coach, Bill Belichick, the cheating program’s mastermind, spoke. He said he had merely misinterpreted a league rule, explaining that he thought it was legal to videotape opposing teams’ signals as long as the material wasn’t used in real time. Few in the room bought it. Belichick said he had made a mistake — “my mistake.”

    *tainted titles

    ==========

    Wib22, you trip over your own argument. If the tapes weren’t used in real time, which is true, then no cheating occurred because the Pats had to stop taping after that one Jets game when it had become illegal to do so. The league memo was sent in off season that just ended before that Jets game.

  113. More Cowbell says: Apr 10, 2017 10:52 AM

    wib22 says:
    Apr 10, 2017 10:17 AM
    • “During pregame warm-ups, a low-level Patriots employee would sneak into the visiting locker room and steal the play sheet, listing the first 20 or so scripted calls for the opposing team’s offense. (The practice became so notorious that some coaches put out fake play sheets for the Patriots to swipe.)”

    ———-

    IDC where that came from but it’s nonsense. Teams average only 60 – 70 offensive plays per game. (Roughly) Nobody is going to go out there with their first 30% scripted. They would get killed. Football is a game of adjustments back and forth as it unfolds. The adjustments start usually right after the first series gives the first look at the defense.

  114. tylawspick6 says: Apr 10, 2017 10:53 AM

    Ask the deflator! I’m sure he can fit it in somewhere.

    ————-

    Still believing Roger Goodell and his corrupt band of lying owners, eh?

    Federal courts not good enough for you?

    Tell us, do you still believe in the Tooth Fairy, too?

  115. magebfd says: Apr 10, 2017 10:53 AM

    Brandin Cooks should wear it like a cape.

  116. Irish70 says: Apr 10, 2017 10:54 AM

    I just think it is funny that the Pats have more championships than most cities have in all major sports championships combined…

    Boston Red Sox 8 World Series
    Boston Bruins 6 Stanley Cups
    Boston Celtics 17 NBA titles
    New England Patriots 5 Super Bowls
    ___________________________
    Total Championships: 36

  117. veddermn8 says: Apr 10, 2017 10:55 AM

    wib22 says:
    Apr 10, 2017 10:48 AM

    The patriot way: Deny, deny, deny even when all evidence is in your face.
    Shula’s a hypocrite, but Montana > cheating brady.

    ===========

    Montana admitted his linemen used silicon spray, Rice admitted using stickum and Romanowski used roids and Montana’s teams won less with more advantages than Brady era Pats. Come again?

  118. tylawspick6 says: Apr 10, 2017 10:57 AM

    The main source of this nonsense is the ESPN article. It’s the one that accused the Patriots of everything under the sun, including warm Gaterade, stealing playsheets, bugging locker rooms and picking through trash. Without naming ONE source. Wrapping for fish.

    That’s why I asked for a source. Anyone believing any sensationalist work as fact, needs a ride on a short bus to the nearest special school.

    I am still laughing at 2013’s Rolling Stone article where they passed off the fake story of Hernandez meeting with BB in Indy at the Combine to ask what he should do to hide the fact he was a murderer and to “find a flop house”.

    To this day, one of the funniest thing I’ve ever read in my life.

    I can just see BB now, taking time out from meetings, interviews, scouting, etc, to have a sandwich with Hernandez to discuss murder cover up approaches.

    LMAO

  119. veddermn8 says: Apr 10, 2017 10:58 AM

    wib22 says:
    Apr 10, 2017 10:45 AM

    2004: James Harrison calls out the Patriots for more signal stealing More claims of the Patriots having impossible information about the opposing team’s game plans came in 2004 via Steelers linebacker James Harrison. He said, I should have another ring. We were the best team in football in 2004, but the Patriots, who we beat during the regular season, stole our signals and picked up 90 percent of our blitzes [in the AFC title game]. They got busted for it later, but hey, they’re Goodell’s boys, so he slapped ’em $500,000 and burned the tapes. Was he going to rescind their Super Bowls? Man, hell no!

    ****

    I can go on and on of the biggest cases of opposing players and teams saying the pats cheated

    ========

    Stealing signals is not illegal. There is absolutely nothing in the rule book about it and it occurs in all sports. You’re really struggling today. Can I buy you a donut or something?

  120. lowleadman says: Apr 10, 2017 11:00 AM

    Call Trump. Build other wall.

  121. wib22 says: Apr 10, 2017 11:04 AM

    David DeSteno has a special vantage point for observing public response to the Patriots. He is a professor of psychology in Patriots country, at Northeastern University, in Boston, and he was a co-author of the study mentioned above. DeSteno is not a football fan, but he is an expert on the psychology of emotion, hypocrisy and moral judgment. He said you can’t really blame the Patriots faithful for believing their team can do no wrong, and has done no wrong, even though it was twice caught cheating by the N.F.L.

  122. kenberthiaume says: Apr 10, 2017 11:08 AM

    Adams, the Patriots’ Football Research Director, is Belichick’s closest adviser. He doesn’t coach, but he has his own direct phone line to Belichick during games, and his reclusive nature, nebulous job title and role in Spygate have led people around the league to speculate on what else he is up to. Even longtime Patriots employees are not sure exactly what he does.

    I’m sorry, but there’s enough suspicion to make these valid claims.
    ——-
    A guy who has a job other teams don’t know about(why would they?), has a direct line to Belichick. If that isn’t cheating, I don’t know what is! That’s your logic?

    He’s a statistician of sorts. He looks for patterns in which plays other teams are running from which formations. Is that illegal now too?

  123. maust1013 says: Apr 10, 2017 11:10 AM

    wib22 says:
    Apr 10, 2017 10:48 AM

    Shula’s a hypocrite
    =======================

    Amidst all the childishness a hidden germ of acceptance out of the chipster. Looks like there’s going to be brawl in her sock puppet drawer

  124. tylawspick6 says: Apr 10, 2017 11:12 AM

    A guy who has a job other teams don’t know about(why would they?), has a direct line to Belichick. If that isn’t cheating, I don’t know what is! That’s your logic?

    He’s a statistician of sorts. He looks for patterns in which plays other teams are running from which formations. Is that illegal now too?

    ———

    Apparently, it needs to be.

    I am actually shocked there is not a rule to ban Ernie Adams for earning his salary with the team.

    Shocked.

  125. mlhigh says: Apr 10, 2017 11:12 AM

    One banner World Champion Supha Cheetahs!

  126. rootpain says: Apr 10, 2017 11:25 AM

    I think this story is just an effort to rub it into Goodell’s face. What I think would be better would be if they changed the name of the stadium to Brady Stadium for just that first game. That would be sweet.

  127. 345snarkavenue says: Apr 10, 2017 11:26 AM

    this thread will be the #1 commented by noon

  128. veddermn8 says: Apr 10, 2017 11:29 AM

    wib22 says:
    Apr 10, 2017 11:04 AM

    David DeSteno has a special vantage point for observing public response to the Patriots. He is a professor of psychology in Patriots country, at Northeastern University, in Boston, and he was a co-author of the study mentioned above. DeSteno is not a football fan, but he is an expert on the psychology of emotion, hypocrisy and moral judgment. He said you can’t really blame the Patriots faithful for believing their team can do no wrong, and has done no wrong, even though it was twice caught cheating by the N.F.L.

    ========

    You have already argued against Spygate being a cheating scandal. And the scientific community not collecting an NFL check destroyed Exponent’s findings. I think you should make an appointment with Dt. DeSteno.

  129. blessedunliketherest says: Apr 10, 2017 11:29 AM

    The patriot way: Deny, deny, deny even when all evidence is in your face.
    Shula’s a hypocrite, but Montana > cheating brady.
    __________________________________________

    The hater way: pass off speculation as fact and continue to quote an ESPN article that has been laughed at six ways from Sunday since its based on 80+ unnamed sources. Even one of ESPN’s own responded to the ridiculous of the accusations in the article, however his work was later “tightly edited” since it called the original ESPN article out for being fake.

    Interesting how you have not provided one shred of evidence in this dribble. All you have is ex coaches, GMs, and players complaining about the Patriots winning with zero proof. Not too mention all these “sources” you have quoted are the scum of the NFL (Harrison, Irsay, etc.)

  130. Flash1287 says: Apr 10, 2017 11:29 AM

    On the last 2 Patriots related articles wib22 has over 20 comments

    Someone needs a friend

  131. A happy green parrot says: Apr 10, 2017 11:33 AM

    kenberthiaume says:
    Apr 10, 2017 11:08 AM
    Adams, the Patriots’ Football Research Director, is Belichick’s closest adviser. He doesn’t coach, but he has his own direct phone line to Belichick during games, and his reclusive nature, nebulous job title and role in Spygate have led people around the league to speculate on what else he is up to. Even longtime Patriots employees are not sure exactly what he does.

    —————-

    Other teams know exactly what Adams does. And your statement is actually a reference to when was when Belichick was in Cleveland where Model made a flippant comment about it. But what he really meant was that he did not understand the science. Model knew exactly why he was issuing a paycheck.

    Adams is a freak of nature level anayst. He is a walking analytics team all by himself and thats just part of it. He has an incredibly high ability to hold info in his head and an excellent sense for how to collate it to reveal further information. He is not just able to do this with football he has also done stock market analysis well enough to be second only to Kraft as the richest guy in the organization. He is very creative with the techniques he has developed for his analysis and given how much money they make for him its understandable that he is reclusive to not give any of it away. And unlike others who use teams and computers for this stuff Adams is a guy that can stand there and just do it all in his head. There are others like him in this world. You dont hear much about them because they like Adams would undermine the value of their techniques if they reveal them.

  132. maust1013 says: Apr 10, 2017 11:35 AM

    I was wondering what the source of that continuous low popping noise is. It’s like very low caliber small arms fire heard from a distance. We’ve been hearing it here all morning and it seems to be coming out of both the south and the west simultaneously. Now that I’ve stopped by PFT my curiosity is satiated, turns out it’s just the sound of all those little troll heads exploding.

  133. wib22 says: Apr 10, 2017 11:36 AM

    More bad stuff:

    One of the employees also is responsible for keeping fresh batteries in the referee’s in-stadium microphone. But Mastroddi didn’t initially accept the explanation that a team employee would be responsible for ensuring the performance of the referee’s microphone; Mastroddi said “people responsible for maintaining the referee’s microphone should be League contractors and not Kraft Sports employees wearing Patriots gear.” In response to Mastroddi’s concerns, Bandy called 345 Park Avenue and spoke with Jay Reid of the officiating department, who confirmed that the referee’s in-stadium microphone is handled by the teams, not by the league.

  134. wib22 says: Apr 10, 2017 11:39 AM

    Joke of a franchise. Only team in NFL history with so many scandals in a ten year period.

    Funny how all these scandals coincide with the only period in their history when they were relevant.

    Stripe all titles. Suspend franchise operations for three years and forfeit all wins since Belicheat took over.

  135. crush22 says: Apr 10, 2017 11:43 AM

    shadywarrior says:
    Apr 10, 2017 7:43 AM
    “Champagne problems”, amirite? Lmao. Just lmao.
    _______________
    No grown man should use “LMAO”.
    Especially twice in a span of 3 words.

  136. maust1013 says: Apr 10, 2017 11:51 AM

    Flash1287 says:
    Apr 10, 2017 11:29 AM
    On the last 2 Patriots related articles wib22 has over 20 comments

    Someo
    Someone needs a friend
    =====================

    It’s no more than the chipster usually pumps out. She just isn’t bothering swapping between screen names, the sock drawer must be jammed closed

  137. atthemurph says: Apr 10, 2017 11:52 AM

    The Green Bay Packers don’t use banners because that would create a canvas dome over Lambeau Field. or a sail large enough to move the whole place across lake Michigan.

    They figured out long ago that it was smarter to simply put up the year.

  138. ikeclanton says: Apr 10, 2017 11:54 AM

    wib22 says:
    Apr 10, 2017 11:39 AM
    Joke of a franchise. Only team in NFL history with so many scandals in a ten year period.

    Funny how all these scandals coincide with the only period in their history when they were relevant.

    Stripe all titles. Suspend franchise operations for three years and forfeit all wins since Belicheat took over.

    ——–

    Ok, ok…I’m sure they’ll get right on that now that you “broke the case.” What a compelling suggestion–you must be correct!

    Just submit your findings written in crayon on 8 x11 construction paper and mail it to 123 Main Street, Psychoville, USA, and I’m sure you’ll get what you deserve from all of your mental energy devoted to this useless crusade.

  139. veddermn8 says: Apr 10, 2017 11:54 AM

    wib22 says:
    Apr 10, 2017 11:36 AM

    More bad stuff:

    One of the employees also is responsible for keeping fresh batteries in the referee’s in-stadium microphone. But Mastroddi didn’t initially accept the explanation that a team employee would be responsible for ensuring the performance of the referee’s microphone; Mastroddi said “people responsible for maintaining the referee’s microphone should be League contractors and not Kraft Sports employees wearing Patriots gear.” In response to Mastroddi’s concerns, Bandy called 345 Park Avenue and spoke with Jay Reid of the officiating department, who confirmed that the referee’s in-stadium microphone is handled by the teams, not by the league.

    ===============

    NFL is in charge of all on field audio equipment, indisputable fact. Also, what advantage does any team gain if the refs mics are not working right? It just makes communicating harder for all involved. Your premise is not based on fact and even if it was true, provides no advantage. Seriously, you still want that donut? Your blood sugar seems low. I’m buying.

  140. fjw2 says: Apr 10, 2017 11:55 AM

    crush22 says:
    Apr 10, 2017 10:19 AM
    kissbillsrings says:
    Apr 10, 2017 6:24 AM
    ROGER THAT!!
    _____________

    You Patsie* girls still saying that?
    It wasn’t funny to begin with, let alone 2 years later.

    ————-

    Brady only made that phrase meaningful in an ad that played for the first time right after winning SB LI, which was 2 months ago, not 2 years ago.

  141. tylawspick6 says: Apr 10, 2017 11:56 AM

    2004: James Harrison calls out the Patriots for more signal stealing More claims of the Patriots having impossible information about the opposing team’s game plans came in 2004 via Steelers linebacker James Harrison. He said, I should have another ring. We were the best team in football in 2004, but the Patriots, who we beat during the regular season, stole our signals and picked up 90 percent of our blitzes [in the AFC title game]. They got busted for it later, but hey, they’re Goodell’s boys, so he slapped ’em $500,000 and burned the tapes. Was he going to rescind their Super Bowls? Man, hell no!

    ————

    LMAO

    James Harrison isn’t the brightest bulb in the shed. Hines Ward also claimed the Pats mysteriously had the OFFENSE’S signals, too, which is comical to think about. Pittsburgh has never been known to employ intelligent players. lol

    Is this the same thing as BB knowing what play was coming, along with Butler and Browner, by simply knowing what Seattle’s tendencies are in a double stack, slot WR formation from the goal line, too?

    Was that “cheating”? LOL!!

  142. wib22 says: Apr 10, 2017 11:58 AM

    I’m sure you’ll get what you deserve from all of your mental energy devoted to this useless crusade.

    ****

    I just want to point out the hypocrisy by the boston homers on this site

  143. tylawspick6 says: Apr 10, 2017 12:00 PM

    Other teams know exactly what Adams does. And your statement is actually a reference to when was when Belichick was in Cleveland where Model made a flippant comment about it. But what he really meant was that he did not understand the science. Model knew exactly why he was issuing a paycheck.

    Adams is a freak of nature level anayst. He is a walking analytics team all by himself and thats just part of it. He has an incredibly high ability to hold info in his head and an excellent sense for how to collate it to reveal further information. He is not just able to do this with football he has also done stock market analysis well enough to be second only to Kraft as the richest guy in the organization. He is very creative with the techniques he has developed for his analysis and given how much money they make for him its understandable that he is reclusive to not give any of it away. And unlike others who use teams and computers for this stuff Adams is a guy that can stand there and just do it all in his head. There are others like him in this world. You dont hear much about them because they like Adams would undermine the value of their techniques if they reveal them.

    ————-

    Absolutely correct.

    I have a similar skill as to Adams. I can recall certain kinds of info immediately without needing to verify it. It’s not perfect, but it’s usually spot on.

    It also helps me in the business world. There’s something to be said for quick recall. Has advantages.

    Brady has it, too, as does BB. It’s one of the key skills BB saw in Brady when he kept 4 QBs on the roster in 2000.

    Jealousy is a very, very ugly trait. The haters/losers will be miserable throughout their entire lives.

  144. senatorblutarsky says: Apr 10, 2017 12:03 PM

    patriottony says:
    Apr 10, 2017 6:49 AM

    have the same freaking problem…My game room is out of walls space…On one long wall is Celtics banners…On the other is PATS,,,,end walls are bruins and Sox…ALL THESE WORLD CHAMPIONSHIPS ARE GETTING OUT OF CONTROL…
    ____________________

    And all this personally reflects on you how?

  145. veddermn8 says: Apr 10, 2017 12:04 PM

    wib22 says:
    Apr 10, 2017 11:58 AM

    I just want to point out the hypocrisy by the boston homers on this site

    =====

    By posting lots of inaccurate information and bizarre contradictions and not acknowledging it?

  146. wib22 says: Apr 10, 2017 12:04 PM

    Dillon, coates, talib.

    The patriot way

    LMAO!

  147. wib22 says: Apr 10, 2017 12:10 PM

    Brady’s 4th SB is now null and void. He cheated. He had been cheating. No one suddenly starts deflating the ball for 1 game. It’s not about the blow out against the Colts. It’s about every other win – if the deflated ball helped them convert 1 first down then the game is tainted. How many games turn on 1 or 2 plays. The Patriots have a history and culture of cheating. Sadly – how many players have we really wanted to believe weren’t cheating – and we found out they were. Here’s another one.

    This is true from last april

  148. bencoates57 says: Apr 10, 2017 12:12 PM

    Denverdave3, what a great comment. These contests do make the game better. And the Super Bowls as well.

  149. RE LEE says: Apr 10, 2017 12:15 PM

    An article about the Patriots’ winning ways and the haters are instantly roused out of hibernation.

  150. veddermn8 says: Apr 10, 2017 12:15 PM

    bucsnation article:
    Patriots started Spygate against the Buccaneers, but couldn’t win

    Can’t post links, so search those words.

    Very sad that belicheat did this!

    =======

    Why don’t you head back to Mar-a-lago and sit by the pool and leave your phone up in your room, kaysies?

  151. wib22 says: Apr 10, 2017 12:16 PM

    Belicheat & Tom Brady have prospered from living in a historically weak AFC East & cheating. Put them on a level playing field and prevent them from cheating, and they’re just a couple of guys…

    This again, is the truth.

    You can’t deny they wouldn’t be the same in the NFC

  152. imodan says: Apr 10, 2017 12:16 PM

    ariani1985 says:
    Apr 10, 2017 8:53 AM
    Rodgers is GOAT
    ————————————————————-
    Roy? Kenny? Will? Sure, agreed.

  153. maust1013 says: Apr 10, 2017 12:17 PM

    So what do we file this latest collection of chipster outbursts under? Thumbs up for chipster flipping her wib, down for the wib losing her chippy little mind.

  154. A happy green parrot says: Apr 10, 2017 12:17 PM

    wib22 says:
    Apr 10, 2017 12:04 PM
    Dillon, coates, talib.

    The patriot way

    LMAO!

    ——————

    They all excelled at their positions so yeah, in that sense the Patrior way.

    But Dillon was an all time rushing leader for Cincinatti, Coates was a recieving leader for the Ravens and carried them past the Pats for SB win, and last I checked Talib was the Denver way except you really cant blame the Broncos for a guy shooting himself in the tail down in Texas.

  155. toddsuperbowles says: Apr 10, 2017 12:21 PM

    Aaron Hernandez

  156. wib22 says: Apr 10, 2017 12:23 PM

    The patriots draft dui cheats, and murderes and yet have the gall to call other teams out “as the patriot way”

    I’m not chippy by the way.

  157. dirtyback says: Apr 10, 2017 12:25 PM

    5? That’s cute. Let me know when they reach 6. STEELERS

  158. kissbillsrings says: Apr 10, 2017 12:25 PM

    wib22 says:
    Apr 10, 2017 12:10 PM
    Brady’s 4th SB is now null and void. He cheated. He had been cheating. No one suddenly starts deflating the ball for 1 game. It’s not about the blow out against the Colts. It’s about every other win – if the deflated ball helped them convert 1 first down then the game is tainted. How many games turn on 1 or 2 plays. The Patriots have a history and culture of cheating. Sadly – how many players have we really wanted to believe weren’t cheating – and we found out they were. Here’s another one.

    This is true from last april
    ———————-
    LOL…..CRACK IS WACK!!!!

  159. blessedunliketherest says: Apr 10, 2017 12:26 PM

    Brady’s 4th SB is now null and void. He cheated. He had been cheating. No one suddenly starts deflating the ball for 1 game. It’s not about the blow out against the Colts. It’s about every other win – if the deflated ball helped them convert 1 first down then the game is tainted. How many games turn on 1 or 2 plays. The Patriots have a history and culture of cheating. Sadly – how many players have we really wanted to believe weren’t cheating – and we found out they were. Here’s another one.
    __________________________________________

    Forgetting about all the other dribble in here, please just answer a few very straight forward questions. That’s all I ask. The Colts balls were also deflated. As were the Steelers from the 2016 season. Did both of these teams cheat as well? How can you possibly explain lower PSI?

  160. WasLemmytoocontroversial? says: Apr 10, 2017 12:28 PM

    wib22 says:
    Apr 10, 2017 12:16 PM
    Belicheat & Tom Brady have prospered from living in a historically weak AFC East & cheating. Put them on a level playing field and prevent them from cheating, and they’re just a couple of guys…

    This again, is the truth.

    You can’t deny they wouldn’t be the same in the NFC

    Based on beating the “best” the NFC had to offer the last 2 times they were in the SB I’d say you’re more probably than not wrong.

  161. A happy green parrot says: Apr 10, 2017 12:31 PM

    toddsuperbowles says:
    Apr 10, 2017 12:21 PM

    Aaron Hernandez

    ———————-

    Well you did spell it correctly if thats the ask here.

  162. whywerule says: Apr 10, 2017 12:31 PM

    fjw2 says:
    Apr 10, 2017 11:55 AM
    crush22 says:
    Apr 10, 2017 10:19 AM
    kissbillsrings says:
    Apr 10, 2017 6:24 AM
    ROGER THAT!!
    _____________
    You [Pats fans] still saying that?
    It wasn’t funny to begin with, let alone 2 years later.
    ————-

    Brady only made that phrase meaningful in an ad that played for the first time right after winning SB LI, which was 2 months ago, not 2 years ago.
    —————————-

    Wow, has it been two months since the Pats won the Super Bowl?

    Damn, we are way overdue for another championship.

    FWIW, and it is worth less than nothing, I do agree with crush22 that the phrase in question has never been funny, even if crush22 has his or her time frames wrong.

    And this is probably the only time I will ever agree with ‘crush22.’

  163. A happy green parrot says: Apr 10, 2017 12:32 PM

    RE LEE says:
    Apr 10, 2017 12:15 PM
    An article about the Patriots’ winning ways and the haters are instantly roused out of hibernation.

    ——————

    It was an act of kindness. PFT is cool like that.

  164. wib22 says: Apr 10, 2017 12:39 PM

    Gotta go for now: but this last thought is correct

    Would an innocent man say “Gee, golly! I don’t believe so.” When asked if he was a cheater?
    Would an innocent man hide behind his agent and lawyers when cheating allegations came out against him?
    Would an innocent man destroy evidence in an investigation that would clear him?
    Would an innocent man obstruct an investigation where he is the prime suspect?
    Nope.

  165. WasLemmytoocontroversial? says: Apr 10, 2017 12:41 PM

    dirtyback says:
    Apr 10, 2017 12:25 PM
    5? That’s cute. Let me know when they reach 6. STEELERS

    when I get feeling down that people think Pats fans are annoying, arrogant and full of themselves I remember that there are steeler fans out there and I feel better.

    But fear not, it won’t be long before we equal and surpass the big 6.

    Sorry, being #1 isn’t limited to on field endeavors.

  166. WasLemmytoocontroversial? says: Apr 10, 2017 12:43 PM

    wib22 says:
    Apr 10, 2017 12:39 PM
    Gotta go for now: but this last thought is correct

    Would an innocent man say “Gee, golly! I don’t believe so.” When asked if he was a cheater?
    Would an innocent man hide behind his agent and lawyers when cheating allegations came out against him?
    Would an innocent man destroy evidence in an investigation that would clear him?
    Would an innocent man obstruct an investigation where he is the prime suspect?
    Nope.

    I Know! that Manning kid is incorrigible.

    My whatever forces control jury pools find out who this guy is and delete him from any possible involvement in an actual trial,

  167. veddermn8 says: Apr 10, 2017 12:47 PM

    wib22 says:
    Apr 10, 2017 12:16 PM

    Belicheat & Tom Brady have prospered from living in a historically weak AFC East & cheating. Put them on a level playing field and prevent them from cheating, and they’re just a couple of guys…

    This again, is the truth.

    You can’t deny they wouldn’t be the same in the NFC

    ==========

    Except that Pats have played a first place schedule 14 of last 16 years and were exonerated by logic and science. Sorry to drink your milkshake, bud. Try to keep up.

  168. steelcurtainn says: Apr 10, 2017 12:51 PM

    Is it going to have the asterisks on them? Nevertheless, the Steelers still lead the nfl with 6.

  169. davebarnes21 says: Apr 10, 2017 1:08 PM

    they better find a place to put another 4 more too!

    Rest of the NFL is all just playing for second place..

    and you know this..

  170. m8gaman says: Apr 10, 2017 1:19 PM

    wib22 says:
    Apr 10, 2017 8:08 AM
    Then the Patriots’ coach, Bill Belichick, the cheating program’s mastermind, spoke. He said he had merely misinterpreted a league rule, explaining that he thought it was legal to videotape opposing teams’ signals as long as the material wasn’t used in real time. Few in the room bought it. Belichick said he had made a mistake — “my mistake.”

    *tainted titles
    ————-
    Except for the fact that the “league rule” which you are interpreting was nothing more than a memo and not actually a part of the rule book itself, this memo was sent out to teams in the 2006 offseason, I believe, which means that their 2001, 2003, & 2004 titles are all legit.

    Also, Belichick pointed out that any of the 50,000 fans in attendance can record all angles of any game from their seats so its not like this is some super sophisticated secret spy espionage tactics, its plain for all to see.

    Thanks for playing and try again.

  171. phinsfankent says: Apr 10, 2017 1:30 PM

    Third World Problems…

  172. dontstabmeray says: Apr 10, 2017 1:41 PM

    Each banner will have an asterisk on the bottom

  173. President Ackbar says: Apr 10, 2017 1:52 PM

    Irish70 says:
    Apr 10, 2017 10:54 AM
    Total Championships: 36

    And New York has 54.

  174. MeSoProudy says: Apr 10, 2017 1:53 PM

    There’s a nice “bathroom” close to the field. It doesn’t have a toilet, so should have plenty of room for storage.

  175. President Ackbar says: Apr 10, 2017 2:12 PM

    More Cowbell says:
    Apr 10, 2017 10:52 AM
    IDC where that came from but it’s nonsense. Teams average only 60 – 70 offensive plays per game. (Roughly) Nobody is going to go out there with their first 30% scripted. They would get killed.

    Bill Walsh routinely scripted the first 25 plays, and he did alright.

  176. fishyinalittledishy says: Apr 10, 2017 2:48 PM

    I have no love for the Patriots but some of you are going over the top with the asterisk count. Some say five that’s ridiculous, some four that’s harsh. According leading figures in the game it’s just the 3 x *. I personally believe that to be wrong and think it’s only the two you can really pin on them. Even the most diehard Patriot fans would have to agree with that. I can’t really say fairer than that.

  177. maust1013 says: Apr 10, 2017 2:53 PM

    President Ackbar says:
    Apr 10, 2017 2:12 PM

    Bill Walsh routinely scripted the first 25 plays, and he did alright.
    ====================

    Of course telling the officials the Niners headsets were out so the other team couldn’t use theirs while doing it didn’t exactly hurt .

  178. blessedunliketherest says: Apr 10, 2017 3:03 PM

    According leading figures in the game it’s just the 3 x *. I personally believe that to be wrong and think it’s only the two you can really pin on them. Even the most diehard Patriot fans would have to agree with that. I can’t really say fairer than that.
    __________________________________________

    This is comical. Which leading figures are you referring to? Marshall Faulk? Terrell Suggs? Don Shula?

    Just out of curiosity, which two are you referring to? Any diehard Pats fan (and those with half a brain) would say zero. That’s the reality of the situation. Spygate was overblown and had zero impact and Deflategate never happened. What else is there?

  179. TeamFirst says: Apr 10, 2017 3:24 PM

    President Ackbar says:
    Apr 10, 2017 2:12 PM
    More Cowbell says:
    Apr 10, 2017 10:52 AM
    IDC where that came from but it’s nonsense. Teams average only 60 – 70 offensive plays per game. (Roughly) Nobody is going to go out there with their first 30% scripted. They would get killed.

    Bill Walsh routinely scripted the first 25 plays, and he did alright.
    ——————————–
    Having a roster of future hall of famers to run those 25 plays doesn’t hurt either.

  180. truthprofessor says: Apr 10, 2017 6:01 PM

    quote: (The Patriots) have prospered from living in a historically weak AFC East… You can’t deny they wouldn’t be the same in the NFC

    ——-
    Better check out their winning percentages of Brady vs. the AFC East, the rest of the AFC, and vs. the NFC

    They are all very tightly bunched in the 75-77% range, almost no difference whatsoever!

    Don’t believe me?

    Before last season the totals were these:
    Brady vs. AFC East: 0.767 (66-20)
    vs. the rest of the AFC: 0.748 (80-27)
    vs. the NFC: 0.762 (48-15)

    The difference is basically statistical noise.

    He has better records vs. the AFC South, the NFC North, NFC South, and AFC North than he has vs. the AFC East.

    Facts aren’t hard to understand, though they can be conveniently ignored by some.

    Of course now we can add a 17-2 season on top of those numbers, on AFC East loss and one NFC West loss.

  181. theringisthething says: Apr 10, 2017 6:26 PM

    As kids playing sandlot games we all remember the whiner kid.

    He was always claiming the things weren’t ‘fair’.

    He couldn’t understand why he never won.

    He would throw tantrums regularly

    Then he would say – “I’m going home – give me my ball”, in a butt hurt attempt to end the game and get back at all his friends.

    Those are the kids that grow up to be Patriots haters.

  182. youknowiknowitall says: Apr 10, 2017 6:37 PM

    I enjoy the nebulous accusations the haters like to make against NE right up until they bore me to sleep.

    Bring something REAL to talk about. The typical “oh yeah, well you guys cheated” is the loser’s lament. Absolutely nooooo substance to any of it. Yawn.

  183. factpurveyor says: Apr 10, 2017 7:11 PM

    wib22 says:
    Apr 10, 2017 12:23 PM

    I’m not chippy by the way.
    —————————————————————
    That’s obvious.
    Chippy mostly just posts “cheater”.

    The newest Patriot detractor isn’t as smart as chippy because they don’t know enough not to post nonsense that is easily contradicted by facts.

    Seems that its now a contest to see who can collect the most thumbs down. Every person has to have a goal in life.

  184. factpurveyor says: Apr 10, 2017 7:14 PM

    theringisthething says:
    Apr 10, 2017 6:26 PM

    As kids playing sandlot games we all remember the whiner kid.
    He was always claiming the things weren’t ‘fair’.

    ———————————————————–
    Its funny that the complaining in the sandlot only happened when the score was such that the sniveling kid realized that he was destined to lose.

  185. Great Caesar's Ghost says: Apr 10, 2017 8:09 PM

    The Packers have 13 titles and don’t have this problem. However Lambeau seats 80,000 so it’s a lot bigger than Gillette. Much respect to the Patriots – in a league filled with Goliaths like the Packers, it’s remarkable that the little guy can win five titles too. They really know how to run with the big boys.

  186. whispersd says: Apr 11, 2017 12:28 AM

    “Years later, some Patriots coaches would point to the score — a 21-16 Bucs win — as evidence of Spygate’s ineffectiveness. But as Walsh later told investigators, Friesz, who did not respond to messages to comment for this story, told Walsh after the game that the Patriots knew 75 percent of the Bucs’ defenses before the snap.

    Explain this”

    The game in question was in the year 2000.
    The “rule” the Patriots supposedly “broke” wasn’t even published until 2006. I challenge you to find a rule on the books in the year 2000 that prohibited videotaping signals.

    By which I mean, something stronger than “league memo” written six years later that changes the meaning of the actual rules.

  187. whispersd says: Apr 11, 2017 12:36 AM

    “According leading figures in the game it’s just the 3 x *. I personally believe that to be wrong and think it’s only the two you can really pin on them. Even the most diehard Patriot fans would have to agree with that. I can’t really say fairer than that.”

    Find a rule that was on the books from 2001-2005 that the Patriots violated. And then find evidence of the violation. I mean, something better than Marshall Faulk feeling “certain” or some random Eagle’s “gut feeling” or Don Shula’s ranting.

    Roger Goodell sauntered into the room and claimed that he understood a rule that had been on the books for years meant something completely different than what the plain language of the rule is. The most generous thing you can say about Goodell’s memo in 2006 is that it created a new rule out of whole cloth by dishonestly representing the rules already in place. Should the memo have been followed? Well, Belichick’s life would have been easier if he hadn’t decided to ignore it because he knew what the rules actually were.

    As for “Deflategate” – anybody who thinks that anything other than cold weather caused the Patriots’ footballs to lose air pressure on a cold, wet January day is at war with science itself. That “investigation” stands as the biggest sham in the league history, perpetrated by the commissioner himself.

    The NFL is run by a man who puts his own image ahead of the image of the most successful team in the league, and this man is willing to lie to maintain his position. That’s how things work these days.

  188. whispersd says: Apr 11, 2017 12:38 AM

    “President Ackbar says:
    Apr 10, 2017 1:52 PM
    Irish70 says:
    Apr 10, 2017 10:54 AM
    Total Championships: 36

    And New York has 54.”

    And New York has how many franchises? Two in baseball, two in football, three in hockey (are we counting the Devils? They play across the parking lot from the Giants and the Jets after all) and one in basketball.

    Yay, advantage of population size!

  189. whispersd says: Apr 11, 2017 12:43 AM

    “wib22 says:
    Apr 10, 2017 11:39 AM
    Joke of a franchise. Only team in NFL history with so many scandals in a ten year period.”

    Two, one of which was completely fake?

    You know that claim wouldn’t stand up to scrutiny, right?

    Toss a dart at the standings and you’ll find a team that’s had at least two scandals in a ten-year period.

    The strange thing about the “scandals” is how the commissioner has tried to use them to advance his own position. He’s a big child with too much power and too much money and no ethics and a propensity to lie all the time.

  190. lanman11 says: Apr 11, 2017 3:25 AM

    The struggle is real…

  191. 345snarkavenue says: Apr 11, 2017 1:39 PM

    Days before the Tampa Bay game, in Belichick’s office, Friesz was told that the Patriots had a tape of the Bucs’ signals. He was instructed to memorize them, and during the game, to watch Bucs defensive coordinator Monte Kiffin and tell Weis the defensive play, which Weis would relay over the radio headset system to quarterback Drew Bledsoe. That Sunday against the Bucs, Walsh later told investigators, the Patriots played more no-huddle than usual, forcing Kiffin to signal in plays quickly, allowing Weis sufficient time to relay the information. Years later, some Patriots coaches would point to the score — a 21-16 Bucs win — as evidence of Spygate’s ineffectiveness. But as Walsh later told investigators, Friesz, who did not respond to messages to comment for this story, told Walsh after the game that the Patriots knew 75 percent of the Bucs’ defenses before the snap.

    Explain this

    ——–

    there has only been one game where the Bucs beat the Patriots 21-16 during the Belichick era.

    that game was played on Sept. 3, 2000.

    that was Bill Belichick’s 1st game as head coach of the Patriots (he was hired on 1/27/2000), so it’s hard to figure out how Belichick taped the Bucs’ signals.

    Maybe it was while he was with the Jets? But the last time Jets-Bucs played was in 1997, a 31-0 Jets win. Yeah….still using the signals from that game?

  192. LyinRogerMustGo says: Apr 11, 2017 2:36 PM

    How about start printing them on the back of the banners they have? 🙂

    The World Champion Patriots need to make room for all of Brady’s titles before he retires so why not!

    🙂

  193. LyinRogerMustGo says: Apr 11, 2017 2:40 PM

    Today seems like a great release-the-PSI-measurements day yes? 🙂

    Patriot Hater knows why they won’t of course. Truth hurts.

    🙂

  194. factpurveyor says: Apr 11, 2017 6:21 PM

    wib22 says:
    Apr 10, 2017 12:39 PM

    Would an innocent man destroy evidence in an investigation that would clear him?
    —————————————————————

    The phone was not evidence!
    How can a phone that is never going to be examined clear someone?

    The telephone had already become irrelevant.

    But that didn’t stop the NFL from permanently duping gullible people with the sensational use of the word “destroyed” in the form of an orchestrated media saturation campaign.

    The NFL already had the 2 telephones that were owned by the Patriots and were used by the 2 equipment guys. It appears that duped people believe that one phone is not enough to see all the messages that were exchanged between two phones.

    As an added bonus, the NFL also had the log information that Tom Brady provided. Which means that the NFL already had 2 sources to see all information related to conversations with the equipment guys.

    Plus the NFL is not law enforcement and doesn’t have the right to see a personal telephone. Fools must have also assumed that the NFL could search his house with a film crew tagging along if they wanted to.

    Overheard echoing in the empty minds of fools everywhere….”but…but….but…phones are little so you surrender all your privacy & property rights because phones are portable.”

    A phone that is never going to be examined regardless of its condition is irrelevant. He’s rich enough to afford a new one. That’s a reason to wipe the replaced phone.

  195. factpurveyor says: Apr 11, 2017 6:33 PM

    MeSoProudy says:
    Apr 10, 2017 1:53 PM

    There’s a nice “bathroom” close to the field. It doesn’t have a toilet,
    —————————————————————
    All bathrooms have toilets. Even 1/2 bathrooms have toilets.

    It’s easy to see how an orchestrated media saturation campaign facilitated by a multi billion dollar organization was able to dupe so many gullible people.

    Considering that all those on the left side of the Bell Curve would likely believe anything. They would even that some bathrooms in football stadiums don’t have a toilets.

  196. skippynj says: Apr 12, 2017 12:54 PM

    Here’s an idea-since the Pats cheated to win SB36 why not just give it back to the Rams and then there’d be plenty of space? The only people that don’t believe the Pats cheated to win that game are Pats fans.

  197. blessedunliketherest says: Apr 12, 2017 4:55 PM

    Here’s an idea-since the Pats cheated to win SB36 why not just give it back to the Rams and then there’d be plenty of space? The only people that don’t believe the Pats cheated to win that game are Pats fans.
    __________________________________________

    What’s your proof? Honestly, what exactly did the Patriots do to cheat in SB 36? Given apparently everybody but Pats fans believe that, show some backbone and provide your proof.

    The real answer is you can’t because there is none.

  198. usdcoyotesfan says: Apr 13, 2017 12:14 AM

    The Packers seem to have found room for their 13 banners.

  199. pondbridge says: Apr 13, 2017 3:40 AM

    Maybe the Patriots can rent some space for their FIFTH SUPERBOWN TROPHY banner from the Colts at Lucas Oil Stadium- alongside the Colts\ 3 existing banners: “Lost DeflateGate Scam”, “Participant: 2016 NFL Season”, “Owner Jim Irsay: 1 Full Day Without Hallucinatory Drugs.”

  200. ikeclanton says: Apr 13, 2017 8:44 AM

    steelcurtainn says:
    Apr 10, 2017 12:51 PM
    Is it going to have the asterisks on them? Nevertheless, the Steelers still lead the nfl with 6.

    ——-

    No Super Bowls, by anyone, currently have, or will have an “asterisk” by them, or any other funny squiggle that nitwit fans of any team could wish to pencil in next to them–i.e., they don’t mean anything, and never will.

    Having said that, it’s going to be really painful for you when the Pats win #6 and #7.

  201. patriotsticketssince1978 says: Apr 13, 2017 5:20 PM

    Days before the Tampa Bay game, in Belichick’s office, Friesz was told that the Patriots had a tape of the Bucs’ signals. He was instructed to memorize them, and during the game, to watch Bucs defensive coordinator Monte Kiffin and tell Weis the defensive play, which Weis would relay over the radio headset system to quarterback Drew Bledsoe. That Sunday against the Bucs, Walsh later told investigators, the Patriots played more no-huddle than usual, forcing Kiffin to signal in plays quickly, allowing Weis sufficient time to relay the information. Years later, some Patriots coaches would point to the score — a 21-16 Bucs win — as evidence of Spygate’s ineffectiveness. But as Walsh later told investigators, Friesz, who did not respond to messages to comment for this story, told Walsh after the game that the Patriots knew 75 percent of the Bucs’ defenses before the snap.

    Explain this
    ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++

    This was the first game of BB’s coaching career in NE. He hadn’t been a head coach since ’95. BB’s coaching staff was brand new as well. Where did they get this tape? from a year when Belichick wasn’r even a HC? From a previous season? It was the first game of the year. This story is among the worst lies folks tell.

  202. 345snarkavenue says: Apr 14, 2017 12:06 PM

    patriotsticketssince1978 says:
    Apr 13, 2017 5:20 PM

    This story is among the worst lies folks tell.

    ———-

    It’s more of a story about the credibility of the people making the claim than it is about Belichick.

  203. tim8450 says: Apr 14, 2017 3:45 PM

    Days before the Tampa Bay game, in Belichick’s office, Friesz was told that the Patriots had a tape of the Bucs’ signals. He was instructed to memorize them, and during the game, to watch Bucs defensive coordinator Monte Kiffin and tell Weis the defensive play, which Weis would relay over the radio headset system to quarterback Drew Bledsoe.

    ======

    The issue of teams recording other teams hand signals was not the point of spygate. The issue was, where in the stadium was the camera positioned when it was doing the recording.

    Even if you assume this story is true, it is not evidence of any cheating. It’s just proof that knowing the play signals did not make a substantial difference in this game.

    You are aware that game tapes are made available to all teams to look at opponent formations and plays, right? It’s not really a big secret.

    It’s simply, “hey, the plays are out there on record, get ready for them.” Game planning 101

  204. dryden74 says: Apr 16, 2017 8:37 AM

    My, my, my – this sounds like the laments of the losing franchises. Surprised that fans of teams other than NE Pats are still spouting this uncorroborated cheating nonsense.
    Face the facts: Patriots are the best team of all time. To what they’ve done in an era of parity, specifically created by the NFL owners to level the playing field, is nothing short of phenomenal.
    And to those of you who blame ‘SpyGate,’ ‘DeflateGate’ or any of these other excuses for rampant inadequacies – consider this fact: Since Jets coach Mangini turned in the Pats for video taping signals from an undesignated area, i.e. cheating to gain a competitive advantage – the Patriots have a won/loss record of 138-41 (77 percent), better than it was before that time.
    Obviously, even if they did something nefarious, for which they paid the absurdly heavy price of fines+ 1st rd pick, the facts show that what they were doing was not a competitive advantage.
    5 SBs. Haters, delusional conspiracy theorists, etc., it’s time to move on.

  205. majormalphunktion says: Apr 17, 2017 2:56 PM

    James Harrison calls out the Patriots…
    ———————————————————-

    The Steelers…the last thing the Pats would ever have to do is steal signals from the Steelers. It’s the same stupid gameplan for the past 15 years.

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