Price for Richard Sherman is dropping

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Lost in the latest report regarding the Seattle asking price for cornerback Richard Sherman is a fundamental reality that fuels the perception a trade will happen: Seattle is dropping its asking price.

Last week, Armando Salguero of the Miami Herald reported that the Seahawks are looking for a very good player and a high pick in the draft. Now, Mike Garafolo of NFL Media says the Seahawks wants a first-round pick in 2017 and a conditional mid-round pick in 2018 to get the trade done.

Garafolo specifically mentioned the Darrelle Revis deal from 2013, which sent the then-star corner to Tampa for the 13th overall pick in the draft and a third-rounder the next year if Revis remained on the roster in March.

It seems like just a matter of time before the asking price becomes a first-round pick. The question then would become how low will the Seahawks go in this reverse auction, where the price keeps going down and no one is raising a paddle, yet.

That question is driven by how motivated the Seahawks are to sell. Given the unusual transparency that the Seahawks have applied to this one, the truth could be that the price will keep dropping until someone bites — as long as that someone is someone for whom Sherman wants to play.

Which means the question of what Seattle wants ultimately may be driven by how badly Sherman wants out.

127 responses to “Price for Richard Sherman is dropping

  1. Eh, I don’t know. A good player is probably worth about a 3rd rounder these days. A good player and a 1st rounder, or a 1st and a 3rd sounds about the same to me.

    Hate the guy, and hope he gets traded to the Browns or 49ers. I don’t think his play will age well either, holding will only get him so far.

  2. hes not worth anything more than a 3rd and everyone knows it…hes been digressing as a player

  3. Hey Dick, sounds like you’re getting booted out of the nest. Tell us, how is your ego handling this? Oh wait, your media ban. What happeneD there? Just go away, make a rap cd and open a bar. Please disappear, you are not liked.

  4. Id give up a third rounder maybe. No matter what you give up, youve still got an overpaid player eating a huge chunk of your cap. And hes selfish and arrogant.

  5. If I were doing it, a 4 round this yr and. 6-7 next yr. His $$$ is what drives down the compensation to me

  6. With only @ $5m available outside of the rookie pool they are still looking for way too much for a declining loudmouth that’s only got 2 years on his contract and those at $11m per. It’s not as though other teams don’t know Seattle’s cap situation.

  7. “Garafolo specifically mentioned the Darrelle Revis deal from 2013, which sent the then-star corner to Tampa for the 13th overall pick in the draft and a third-rounder the next year if Revis remained on the roster in March.”

    And that worked out so well for the Bucs right?

    That’s the problem with trying to get someone to match what is a essentially a previously failed trade. Not going to happen.

  8. He’s already 29 and isn’t even a shut down man corner. Product of the system and talent around him, in my opinion. I’d take my chances with my first round pick.

  9. As a Cardinals season ticket holder…
    If Watson doesn’t fall to 13 I’d trade you 13 and next years 5th.

    Patrick Peterson and Sherman at CB
    Weeeeeeeeeeeeeeee!!!!

  10. Schneider is crazy. This draft is stocked at DB. How does he think someone would rather part with a 1st and 3rd (possibly getting two future starters at DB) for an expensive loud starter on the downside of his career. I wouldn’t give up a first rounder for Sherman.

  11. I’d like to see someone calculate the actual real contribution value of draft picks. I’d rather have a player that produces on a known level than an opportunity to step up to the craps table and roll the dice on some college guy. But I’m not a GM so there you are.

  12. Who would want that in your locker room. Just runs his mouth non stop and his play has dropped out. Can’t wait for him to get pushed out of the NFL so he can cry about being a victim of his own mouth.

  13. A contending team does not need all the Sherman drama to mess up team chemistry even if he does make plays.

    A rebuilding team is not going into a salary cap hostage situation.

    As for Sherman stock…”look out belowwwwww”

  14. Would love to know what’s really going on here. Pete Carroll has always been a player’s coach, so Sherman must have really done something egregious to lose his support. Carroll’s silence on this has been deafening!

  15. As someone who can’t stand Richard Sherman as a person… He is a really good player. But a first round pick is steep for a player who isn’t on a rookie deal. And a player who clearly has some personality/maturity issues.

  16. He’s worth a 3rd rounder. No more. Lots of good 20 year old corners in the draft who are COACHABLE without the headache and constant racism.

  17. All of these stories reference Sherman wanting to go to a winner. Am I missing something? He has no say whatsoever in where he winds up, right?

  18. If it’s not a high-mid 2nd AND another pick that is a late 3 or early-mid 4th in this draft or next…there is NO reason for Seattle to let him go. He’s been a PITA for a few years and made the playoffs every year. He was hurt all last year and STILL was on of the top 4 CB in the league. Guys whi aren’t nearly as good got $12M on the FA market.

  19. Patrick Peterson and Sherman at CB
    Weeeeeeeeeeeeeeee!!!!

    Hearing those two continuously whine about who is less more overrated would never get old.

  20. The draft is filled with secondary talent. Not saying everyone of them will be a Sherman type of player but if you look at the facts: A CB which is about to turn 30, is on the back end of his contract (which means he’ll want one more big payday), all for the price of a 1st and mid rounder?

    At this stage with everything factoring in I’d say he’s not “worth” anything higher than a 4th and that’s kinda pushing it. No GM in his right mind is going to give up so much ESPECIALLY when that player is on the back 9 of his career and has an alpha personality.

  21. Yeah he’s really “declined.” His stats are as good as Deon’s at the same point in his career.

  22. Typical responses from some PFT posters, “loudmouth”, “can’t stand him as a person”.

    The only problem is you don’t know Sherman as a person. All you know is the brief snippets you see on television. But don’t let that stop you from judging someone you’ve never met.

  23. There is a reason for this… he brings baggage, holds on each play and not a team player. The old adage trade em one year early applies. Please Steelers do not think about it!!!!

  24. Raiders should trade for him. Smith, Amerson & Sherman would be pretty formidable. Would help that pass D step up from middle of the pack. College in Bay Area.

  25. I’m still hoping for a Cleveland connection. Thomas and 33rd for Shermy and #106.

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    No wonder why your team is always on the bottom!!!

  26. Butler to Saints, 32nd pick to New England.

    New England ships 32nd pick and a 2018 4th rnder for Sherman.

    Win. Win. Win. Everyone is happy.

  27. the 2016-17 version of Sherman is still better then anything the stillers propped up at corner since Rod Woodson left over 20 yrs ago, So they better make a serious offer for him or else they have become clueless how to be a serious contender in modern football times.

    Unless the goal is the same, pray someone else knocks off the pats in January like in 2005 and 08.

  28. Great article Mike. Really. Reality is, he’s not worth that much. He has to fit in a system that works for him….which…I would say zone style. Plus….I will harp on this forever. The D-Line is the key, pressure on the QB. Not the CB’s. You could have the worst CB’s out there (hello Steelers of old), and still have an amazing “D”.

    So my point is, and smart GM….won’t give up even a 1st for him. Just not worth it.

  29. That was a horrible deal for Tampa. Revis is the most overrated CB in history.

    If the Bucs somehow acquire Sherman, I would have to consider switching teams.

  30. The attitude of the player is a factor in driving down his value.

    Who wants to buy a problem?

    Especially at the price that is being asked.

    Or maybe at any price.

  31. Only way I do it is if Seattle pays his salary this season and he agrees to extension at more reasonable figure going forward. Then I trade back in the 1st and pick up and extra 2nd and 3rd and then trade that late first rounder to Seattle. Next year we won’t have Jason Peters contract so there is some room coming but nothin now.

  32. LMAO…dude was an awesome player and owned every other teams WR’s for a long time.

    Love that he says what is real and hes intelligent, unlike most here.

  33. How long before he plays the race card again.

    Players dont get that no one wins when the race card is played. There is nothing anyone can say to assuage the damage.

    No one wants you bro. Because of who you have made yourself out to be. You can sit in the seats with Colin, Aldon, Ray, . . . .

  34. That was a horrible deal for Tampa Bay, a one-year rental on a player that was still recovering from an ACL injury. That’s one of the reasons former GM Mark Dominik got fired and can’t sniff another job in an NFL front office.

    NFL teams learn from each other’s mistakes, and nobody is going to trade a first and third for an aging corner with an 8 figure contract. At least not until Mark Dominik finds another gig.

  35. wib22 says:
    Apr 11, 2017 3:39 PM
    Imagine the blowups between him and belicheat on the sidelines.

    You cheat bro?
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    You’re right, Dick has certainly cheated Seattle out of some serious cash for his poor play of late.

  36. connorjr says:
    Apr 11, 2017 4:10 PM
    Only way I do it is if Seattle pays his salary this season and he agrees to extension at more reasonable figure going forward. Then I trade back in the 1st and pick up and extra 2nd and 3rd and then trade that late first rounder to Seattle. Next year we won’t have Jason Peters contract so there is some room coming but nothin now.
    …………………
    Wth….fans think a proven all pro who plays every game injured or not is worth nothing. Have Seattle his salary, make him sign an extension for league minimum, and ask for a lifetime supply of cilantro lime grasshoppers and MAYBE we will take him off your hands. This infatuation with trying to under pay and gather picks is just mind boggling with NFL fans.

  37. mbara33 says:
    Apr 11, 2017 3:47 PM
    Yeah he’s really “declined.” His stats are as good as Deon’s at the same point in his career.
    ______________________

    How about opening the sock drawer and asking osiris what she thinks?

  38. If I didn’t follow the Seahawks so closely I would probably have a different opinion about Sherman, because I wouldn’t see all sides of him. I would only see what the media is trying to pull out of him. The one main thing I think he stepped over the line with was telling the reporter he was going to ruin his career. That was egotistical and stupid. Everything else that Sherman does is team first and is a great player. Lots of people are saying that his play is dropping…go back and watch some Seahawk games. The only time teams throw at him are pick plays and comeback routes. The defense that Seattle runs (Cover 3 press) is going to give up those routes all day long no matter who is covering the WR. Just the design of the system. Seahawks count on the defense to corral the ball carrier before damage is done. Last year we had some bad tackling. ….To get to the point of this article, its a bad time to try and trade for him. This years draft class is loaded with top talent at the p0sition. If the Seahawks/Sherman really wanted to break up they would have a lower asking price. He’s not going anywhere not because the asking price is too high, it’s because the Seahawks don’t really intend on anyone biting on the trade offer in the first place.

  39. Even as a die hard Pats fan, i couldn’t help laugh at this comment..lol

    “Imagine the blowups between him and belicheat on the sidelines.

    You cheat bro?”

  40. I love this trendline of comments that his play has declined, to he’s maybe a starter, to he’s going to be a bust, blah, blah, blah.

    Don’t think you have watched the games, doubt you have checked the stats. ’16 was a weird year off the field, and his play was maybe a touch below the previous years, still one of the smartest/best corners in the league.

  41. jag1959 says:
    Apr 11, 2017 4:46 PM
    mbara33 says:
    Apr 11, 2017 3:47 PM
    Yeah he’s really “declined.” His stats are as good as Deon’s at the same point in his career.
    ______________________

    How about opening the sock drawer and asking osiris what she thinks?
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    My guess is he thinks this:

    Richard Sherman’s stats since he came into the league:

    Receptions against: 228 (#1)
    Completion percentage: 47.70% (#1)
    Yards: 3,129 (2nd by 27 yards)
    TDs Allowed: 13 (#2 by 1 TD)
    Interceptions: 32 (#1 by 9 ints)
    Passes Defensed: 58 (Tied for 1st)
    Coverage passer rating: 50.28 (1st by 20 points)

    Richard Sherman is the best corner in the NFL, and has been since 2011. He’s going to the Hall of Fame.

  42. This guy has Naamdi Osomugha written all over him.

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    Can’t stand Sherman the guy. But this player comparison is way off. He’s made 100 times as many plays as Nnamdi ever did. Never really got the fascination with that guy.

  43. He faces the problem of a stocked draft. If I were Dallas I might offer a second rounder and a backup O lineman. Miami, my other team, could also use him, but they need linebackers worse and might not offer anything significant.

  44. I keep saying it. TJ Carrie and the 4th round pick for Sherman and Lynch’s rights.

    After the cell phone deal, maybe just the 4th.

    If Seattle is serious, the wont be getting much more than that.

  45. wib22 says:
    Apr 11, 2017 3:39 PM
    Imagine the blowups between him and belicheat on the sidelines.

    You cheat bro?
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    Belichampion to you…….bro.

  46. I would not give up more than a 4th. That said, anything more than a 2nd rounder from a current playoff team is probably too much for him even for teams that think he might help.

  47. seahawkboymike,

    Sherman consistently covers #3 WRs for most of his career. The more he started traveling, the more he got roasted. Its silly to call him a shut down CB since it implies 1 on 1, and vs the opposing teams no1 WR. He just does NOT do that.

  48. No way anyone gives that for a 29 yr old corner who is a headache and costs too much.

    Seattle will end up trying to find someone who’ll be willing to take on his contract before it’s over.

  49. It’s a long shot but I could see the Pats flipping butler for lower NO pick (provided they trade down) and then using it to scoop up Sherman.

    Reasonable cap hit for the next 2 (or 3?) years and not a bad second option to Butler for 1 year at a cheap price. Lock down secondary next year against 7-8 top QB’s.

    Sherman would do fine in NE. Pats fans appreciated the handshake and how he took the loss/ribbing in stride. Not saying I like him though.

  50. wib22 says:
    Apr 11, 2017 3:39 PM
    Imagine the blowups between him and belicheat on the sidelines.

    You cheat bro?

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    Well clearly you are reading this article thinking Patriots all the way.

  51. Well clearly you are reading this article thinking Patriots all the way.

    ****

    Teams commonly clear out trash cans in their hotel meeting rooms in New England because they believe the Patriots go through them. One longtime head coach said he ran fake plays in his Saturday walkthroughs at Gillette Stadium because he thought the Patriots might be spying on his team. Another team has taken things further: It fled Gillette and found a different place to practice, and on game day it piled trunks of equipment against the double doors in the back of the visitors’ locker room so nobody could get in. That same team kicked the visiting locker room manager out of the office he occupies near the clubhouse.

  52. wib22 says:
    Apr 11, 2017 7:01 PM
    Well clearly you are reading this article thinking Patriots all the way.

    ****

    Teams commonly clear out trash cans in their hotel meeting rooms in New England because they believe the Patriots go through them. One longtime head coach said he ran fake plays in his Saturday walkthroughs at Gillette Stadium because he thought the Patriots might be spying on his team. Another team has taken things further: It fled Gillette and found a different place to practice, and on game day it piled trunks of equipment against the double doors in the back of the visitors’ locker room so nobody could get in. That same team kicked the visiting locker room manager out of the office he occupies near the clubhouse.
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    Wow dude, seriously need to clean the Patriot realestate out of your head. It’s pretty pathetic.

  53. Butler will sign his tender before the draft. NO will then trade NE back #32 for Butler. NE will then send #32 and #131 to SEA for Sherman and restructure Amendola and save $6m and Sherman will only cost $2m in cap space with Butler’s $4m gone and the $6m saved on Amendola’s restructure.

  54. In the post-Spygate NFL, it’s easy for the Patriots’ opponents to see—or imagine they see—planning in random events and conspiracy in coincidences. “I just know that every time we went up there, there was always something at our hotel,” says former linebacker Bart Scott. “It was always stuff like that with New England. You knew what you were going to get with them.”

    You will get uncomfortable. You will get suspicious.

    I’m sorry bot that’s the truth.

  55. wib22 says:
    Apr 11, 2017 7:01 PM
    Well clearly you are reading this article thinking Patriots all the way.

    ****

    Teams commonly clear out trash cans in their hotel meeting rooms in New England because they believe the Patriots go through them. One longtime head coach said he ran fake plays in his Saturday walkthroughs at Gillette Stadium because he thought the Patriots might be spying on his team. Another team has taken things further: It fled Gillette and found a different place to practice, and on game day it piled trunks of equipment against the double doors in the back of the visitors’ locker room so nobody could get in. That same team kicked the visiting locker room manager out of the office he occupies near the clubhouse.

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    So maybe the Pats are in their heads too. But they are certainly deeply in yours, thats clear enough. They own you man.

  56. jamarcuslives says:
    Apr 11, 2017 5:25 PM
    This guy has Naamdi Osomugha written all over him.

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    Can’t stand Sherman the guy. But this player comparison is way off. He’s made 100 times as many plays as Nnamdi ever did. Never really got the fascination with that guy.

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    Sherman makes plays, Nnamdi removed whoever he covered from the game by himself, hardly ever having help even shaded his way. Just because Philly signed a guy and tried to adapt a player that didn’t fit the system there is not his fault.

  57. The problem with the Revis trade was not Revis, it was Lovie Smith. He played well for the Bucs, and had a really good following season. Lovie’s dumb mistake was cutting him too early.

    Any Bucs writer worth their salt points at Lovie being at fault there, because he cut and ran too early…just like he did with Michael Bennett.

  58. @nepatriot1

    Most teams when playing NE in Foxborough, have their locker room professionally sweeped for bugs and other surveilance. This has been well documented. Search it. The Pats are serial cheaters. The Pats have been fined, lost draft choices, and have had their Golden Boy suspended for cheating. Search it. Your SB’s are tainted and will always ride with an asterik. Stay proud, Supha Cheetahs. Your team is being carefully watched.

  59. Pats can get him for the same price we paid for Deion Branch. First-round pick or no sale.

  60. seahawkfanfrom1970s says:
    Apr 11, 2017 8:27 PM
    Pats can get him for the same price we paid for Deion Branch. First-round pick or no sale.

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    Completely agree. So no sale.

  61. droppedinagreasefire says:
    Apr 11, 2017 8:24 PM
    @nepatriot1

    Most teams when playing NE in Foxborough, have their locker room professionally sweeped for bugs and other surveilance. This has been well documented. Search it. The Pats are serial cheaters. The Pats have been fined, lost draft choices, and have had their Golden Boy suspended for cheating. Search it. Your SB’s are tainted and will always ride with an asterik. Stay proud, Supha Cheetahs. Your team is being carefully watched.

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    Well of course they are watched. They have the highest tv ratings of any team.

  62. It SOME of you time to see what I’ve been saying for several years: Richard Sherman is VASTLY OVERRATED and gets away with a lot holding! I’ll bet if he goes elsewhere, whenever that team plays Seattle they’ll throw at him ALL day and tell the refs to look out for him holding their receiver.

  63. Most teams when playing NE in Foxborough, have their locker room professionally sweeped for bugs and other surveilance. This has been well documented. Search it. The Pats are serial cheaters. The Pats have been fined, lost draft choices, and have had their Golden Boy suspended for cheating. Search it. Your SB’s are tainted and will always ride with an asterik. Stay proud, Supha Cheetahs. Your team is being carefully watched.

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    blah blah blah. Nearly identical home/road records.

    Also, how did those teams that implemented extreme counter measures perform that Sunday? They couldn’t have been an AFC team since it’s been like 7 years since anyone won there.

  64. Sounds about right except Talib had 3 great years after that deal. Seems that Sherman fell off a tiny bit last year, and there is more to come the next 2 seasons.

    Sherman is 29 and has started 16 regular season games for 5 straight years, 10 his rookie year and over 10 post season games. Smart by Seattle if they can move him.

  65. Sounds about right except Revis had 3 great years after that deal. Seems that Sherman fell off a tiny bit last year, and there is more to come the next 2 seasons.

    Sherman is 29 and has started 16 regular season games for 5 straight years, 10 his rookie year and over 10 post season games. Smart by Seattle if they can move him.

  66. Puhlezze. At this rate, by the draft, Seattle will have to offer up their Nextflix passcode and a 1st just to take Richard Sherman.

  67. Well doubt htown would do it cuz they like choir boys with no tude but he could help with the loss of bouye. Dallas lost most of their secondary. Although i would hate it bigtime he is an upgrade to almost anything my beloved eagles have in the secondary.

  68. Good luck with that—- same delusional seahawk fans think it will happen are the same one saying raiders should give a first rd pick for lynch…..with that said I could possibly see the patriots giving the last pick in the second rd for him although.

  69. As the unofficial spokesperson for the Chicago Bears, we
    would respectfully offer a 12 pack of Old Style Light, a
    pint of Walter Payton’s ball sweat saved under Virginia
    McKaskey’s pillow for 20 years, a 3rd rounder this year
    and a conditional 3rd rounder for next year.

  70. Two draft picks (one of them a first rounder) is way to high a price, and so is his salary under his current contract. Teams may not mind giving away 2 drat picks for him or paying him what he is scheduled to make, but not both.

  71. Seattle’s Super Bowl success was contingent on their success in the draft, the emergence of Russell Wilson, and the team unity. The increase of age and injury, game-planning against Russell’s ability to move in and out of the pocket, and discord in the locker room and on the sidelines has contributed to the Seahawks downward trend.

    Seattle knows this and is trading in “older and expensive” for “newer and potential”.

    And, when you add “arrogant and injured” to it all, trading Sherman gets that much easier.

    Regarding the arguments on the sidelines, I don’t think a head coach should be taking offensive play calling opinions from a defensive back.

    That’s straight forward disrespectful.

    Seahawks, maybe the new mantra should be: Know your place. Do YOUR job.

  72. Wouldn’t mind the Skins making a run at him (now cue the “typical Redskins move going after the big name guy” talk). Sherman for Breeland and a 3rd. Pair Sherman and Norman up on the outside, Sherman can also groom Kendall Fuller, and then with Cravens and Swearinger as the safeties, that would be a tough secondary to beat.

    Still can run on the defense though until the line and backers get much improved, but the pass defense would be spot on.

  73. lezziemcdykerson says:
    Apr 11, 2017 10:11 PM
    Literally all of y’all have “Make America Great Again” bumper stickers on your dualies don’t you? Or your General Lee’s which ever variety you belong to.

    Lame, lazy, obvious. Don’t let racism guide you.

  74. He wants to go to a good team, which significantly narrows the market. However, it means they are teams with picks later in the round, and teams that may not have the luxury of developing those picks when they feel they are in “win-now” mode.

    Raiders are still so young, they can compete today while developing more talent to make a sustained run, they won’t part with their draft picks for him.
    The teams most likely to be interested are Atlanta, Cincinnati, Arizona, Carolina and MAYBE Minnesota or Green Bay.
    Patriots have their system humming and can develop picks or make a big move if they see opportunity – still, I don’t see them investing so heavily in the secondary and none of it going to Malcom Butler.

    Then there are those wildcard teams who feel a need to do something just to show fans they are trying. Washington, Kansas City and Houston all may be feeling some pressure to try to get over the hump.

  75. It’s pretty amazing that someone with his talent is on the trading block. He has devalued himself by shooting of his mouth at the coaches and press. A good place for him would be Dallas where he can team up with Dez Bryant and tell the coaches how to coach.

  76. Safe to say he wore out his welcome and they are moving on from him. And when his playing days are over, he and Kap can always go work for MSNBC or a local cable affiliate and have their own public access gig.

  77. Teams commonly clear out trash cans in their hotel meeting rooms in New England because they believe the Patriots go through them. One longtime head coach said he ran fake plays in his Saturday walkthroughs at Gillette Stadium because he thought the Patriots might be spying on his team.

    – – – – – – – – – – – – – – – – – – – – – – – – – – – – – – – – – – – – – – – – – –

    In other words, the guy openly admitted that Belichick had taken permanent residency in his head, to the point where he was actually wasting time running fake plays when he should have been preparing for the game.

    Patriots win!

  78. Most teams when playing NE in Foxborough, have their locker room professionally sweeped for bugs and other surveilance

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    So other teams are paranoid? So what?

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