Patriots explain difference between 2015 and 2017 White House photos

AP

The Patriots visited the White House on Wednesday, an event that generated plenty of photos. One specific photo has been compared to a specific photo from their last visit to D.C. to celebrate a Super Bowl win, because it seems to show a much smaller contingent for the trip to see President Donald Trump.

Not so, says the Patriots. The team has taken to Twitter to explain that the photos “lack context,” adding that, in 2015, more than 40 members of the team’s football staff were standing on stairs. This year, there were seated on the South Lawn.

It’s unclear whether the Patriots made this clarification on their own, or whether they were asked to do it. It’s possible that the topic will come up during Thursday’s press briefing from Sean Spicer.

On Thursday, Spicer won’t have Rob Gronkowski around to offer his help.

97 responses to “Patriots explain difference between 2015 and 2017 White House photos

  1. Oh Lord, please don’t tell me we’re gonna have to listen to Trump defend this crowd size for a month straight too.

  2. The guys that respect their wives and daughters, moms and sisters, aunts and nieces, stayed home.

  3. Full disclosure – I don’t particularly like Trump and didn’t vote for him. But the media has once again shown their insane bias against anything Trump/Republican/Conservative. It’s embarrassing how the AP, ESPN, etc continue bend themselves into pretzels in order to spew their self serving leftist garbage. Don’t they realize that’s the reason why Trump was elected in the first place?

  4. There has been a rush of folks on the internet seeking to say that players dont want to go because of Trump. They have been looking for any celebrities that can be construed as making any gesture that can be interpreted to support a narrative. Its been festering for a while and now of course the Patriots are getting head counted. Whether true or not or what the numbers are, a football team that is simply following victory tour protocol is suddenly getting treated like some sort of litmus test of credit or discredit of the president. More politics than these guys signed up for but in today’s world thats how it rolls.

    Bottom line: Gronk was hilarious.

  5. The NYT using fake news to push their agenda? You don’t say.

    The press is a HUGE problem in this country. They rely on people to have zero critical thinking skills.

  6. The 2017 Pats team White House photo was the biggest ever! Period!

    [Including when the Pats won in 2007 and 2011 …]

  7. Or maybe there were a lot of players who decided to be decent human beings who decided not to honor or legitimize a racist, bigoted, misogynist lying thief who’s brought actual frickin’ Nazis into the White House. Crazy thought, I know.

  8. Della Street says:
    Apr 19, 2017 9:48 PM

    ….The press is a HUGE problem in this country. They rely on people to have zero critical thinking skills.
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    And prove time and again that they (the press) too have zero critical thinking skills.

  9. Yeah, I can just hear Donnie boy embellish on the size of the crowd, much like he did at the inauguration. Just watch tomorrow on Fox News as the Prez says – We had so many Patriots at the White house, I thought it was 1776.

  10. I suspect that nobody had to request that the Patriots issue this clarification. Belichick is close to President Trump, and Kraft and the team have suffered because of a “vendetta” by ESPN againt Tom Brady.

    They certainly were not going to let the media use them as tools.

  11. itsfootballfolks said:

    “It was the biggest crowd in the history of championship ceremonies.”

    Yes, indeed. It was the biggest crowd in the history of championship ceremonies…PERIOD. #Spicy

  12. seanx40 says:
    Apr 19, 2017 9:25 PM
    What “context”? Half of the current Patriots didn’t go due to their objection to the current President.
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    Today’s picture did not include the coaches & staff. 34 players went today, 36 in 2015. Big difference

  13. This fan is exceedingly proud of all those Patriots who entered an appearance at today’s White House event honoring their historic Super Bowl LI win. Few things are more satisfying to me than to see some in the liberal press still suffering from PESD—i.e., post-election stress disorder. These folks still have their knickers in a twist/knot over Trump’s election win, don’t they? Since we’re showing photos, why not share the one with coach Belichick proudly standing next to the President seated at his desk in the Oval Office? That picture alone is “worth a thousand words.” Just when I thought I couldn’t be more proud of “The Hoodie,” I am.

  14. Liberal math I guess (half the patriots didn’t attend). From what I’ve seen at CNN, okay could be fake news, but only 8 or so Patriots didn’t attend the White House out of a roster of 53 players? Doesn’t seem close to half to me but I’m a dumb conservative.

  15. Just look at the Patriots own social media, they posted a pic with everyone that made the trip. Pretty similar to 2015.

    The teams take plenty of pics on these trips, everyone, just the players, just the coaches, just the front office.

    The New York Times obviously tweeted that out with an agenda

  16. All of Trumps people’s efforts to explain the small crowds remind me of Sienfields ‘I was in the pool’ episode.

  17. 1. Why is this (and many other irrelevant things such as Trump wearing a robe) relevant?
    2. Just as many players showed up as with any previous champion. There wasn’t any protest by players.

    The left media just needs to stop the insanity or no one will believe them if Trump actually does do something horrible. Boy who cried wolf and all that jazz.

  18. I don’t care what your political views are, when you are invited to the White House you go. It’s disrespectful to all of us. This stuff has gotten out of hand during the last two administrations..

  19. Can we just stop with the championship team’s visiting the White House? It’s nothing more than a photo op that sports fans and non-sports couldn’t care less about.

  20. You people eat up everything Trump says. He literally said “any media source saying anything bad about me is fake news” (even when those reports use actual facts (not talking about this article, to be clear)) and you people buy it hook, line and sinker… You don’t seem to care that Trump and his team are CONSTANTLY creating actual fake news.

  21. Probably the last NFL team to visit considering he’s 2 seconds away from blowing up the planet.

  22. Is the press responsible for antagonizing a man child who is running the country by saying Obama had more Patriots. Maybe they are. I for one think it’s hilarious. No doubt that kept Trump up at night. Not N. Korea or Iran or Syria. 90% of his mental energy is going towards that picture and Tom Brady blowing him off. I for one think it’s hilarious. And pathetic.

  23. What “context”? Half of the current Patriots didn’t go due to their objection to the current President

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    I don’t like trump and didn’t vote for him. That being said, he says and does enough truly troubling things that the media and social media zealots don’t need to keep making up bogus stuff. It only makes more and more people in the middle angry because the lies and bias on both sides are so obvious. Why make stuff up when there is plenty of real dirt on the president (and the democrats for that matter).

    The nyt photo compared a picture of the full team (players, coaches, and front office staff) to yesterday’s picture of just players and coaches. The Patriots clarified that in a tweet and showed yesterday’s subsequent photo with the front office staff included and both yesterday’s photo and the one from Obama visit looked like same amount of overall people.

    They also said that after 2004 Super Bowl (last time they won 2 out of 3) 36 players attended, yesterday 34 attended.

    The fact that this type of stuff is even discussed is stupid. It’s just another example of how polarized our country is and it’s a shame. But the extreme right and the extreme left have lost their collective perspective and paint each other as evil incarnate at every turn. For those of us in the middle it would be laughable if it wasn’t so dangerous.

  24. meximyke says:
    Apr 19, 2017 9:28 PM
    Who fricking cares how many are in the photo!! FAKE NEWS!

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    Yea. Fake News. Just like the inauguration photos……smh….

  25. “It’s unclear whether the Patriots made this clarification on their own, or whether they were asked to do it.”…. YOU MEAN CLEAR UP THE MEDIA LIE ?

  26. Fact: fewer players attended and even fewer wanted their picture taken with Trump.

    Instead of providing “context”, perhaps the thin-skinned pro-Trump crowd (including those in the Patriot organization) should examine why that is the case.

    -Pats fan

  27. seanx40 says:
    Apr 19, 2017 9:25 PM
    What “context”? Half of the current Patriots didn’t go due to their objection to the current President.

    The other half didn’t show for the last guy.

    If I had known the NE would have this many problems being the most successful team in the last 1/4 century I’d have rooted for Seattle or Atlanta.

    OK, that’s a lie. I could never root for Seattle, until big mouth Sherman is gone anyway.

  28. What happened to journalism in this country? They just print anything they want when they know factually it’s wrong, and just don’t care.

    I had to give up watching liberal owned media outlets months ago.

  29. I just saw the Alan Branch interview regarding his decision to skip the White House trip.
    He was asked if he feared the repercussions from Patriots’ fans….

    Mr. Branch…The only repercussion that you will get from this life-long Pats’ fan is a heart-felt, “Thank You!”

    I wouldn’t shake the tiny, soft, orange, callous-free, hand of this vile, habitual liar either!

    This weasel of a president will be impeached by the time the USS Carl Vinson REALLY gets to the Sea of Japan.

    I don’t know if I have ever seen a person without a shred of honor before.

  30. The truth is now considered fake news , got it. The gullible are a HUGE problem in this country . They rely on people who have zero critical thinking skills .

  31. Full disclosure – I don’t particularly like Trump and didn’t vote for him. But the media has once again shown their insane bias against anything Trump/Republican/Conservative. It’s embarrassing how the AP, ESPN, etc continue bend themselves into pretzels in order to spew their self serving leftist garbage. Don’t they realize that’s the reason why Trump was elected in the first place?

    ——————

    Agreed

    The same general number attended the last one, as opposed to this one yesterday.

    And, next April, when the Pats are there, a similar number of players will attend as well.

    lmao

  32. In an effort to gauge the photo against the pictures of other AFCE teams visiting the White House archaeologists are being sent to review cave drawings in NY and archivists have been commissioned to create stone rubbings in Miami. As usual when the subject is championships there was of course no need to contact anyone in Buffalo.

  33. What “context”? Half of the current Patriots didn’t go due to their objection to the current President.
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    Nowhere near half of the team didn’t go. And a number didn’t go the last time, or the time before that.

    But who really cares? It’s just the sitting POTUS congratulating the champion team. It doesn’t mean they have to share ideologies.

  34. If you look at the list of the players who did not attend, they are mostly scrubs that might not even be on the team after training camp. And according to Reiss, the 2004 team turnout was lower than this one.

  35. All of the people cheering the guys who didn’t go because their preferred political candidate didn’t win, I wonder where they will be when that player is 50 years old wishing to himself he went to The White House when he was a Super Bowl winner.

    I feel sorry in a way for the people that make everything political.

  36. Seriously, everything doesn’t have to be about politics or hating the current administration. Players skip this visit every year but since the media is fixated on bashing Trump suddenly it’s a big issue….

  37. The butthurt is strong in these comments. The patriots are the ones talking about “context”. Why not just say, we took who we took and had a great experience. The excuses will always get the media attention. Especially when the excuse sounds like the one Spicer gave denying smaller inauguration size. Just take BB advice and don’t give the media nothing.

  38. tonebones says:
    Apr 19, 2017 9:38 PM
    The guys that respect their wives and daughters, moms and sisters, aunts and nieces, stayed home.

    _________________________________________

    And the guys that have courage, respect for their teammates, respect for our country and the process in which our country is run (regardless of outcome) showed up.

    It never ceases to amaze me how liberal lefties are such a bunch of soft little crybabies. God forbid they ever lose at ANYTHING. I’m still waiting for them to just take their ball and go home.

  39. And the Press anti Trump continues. Get over it..he won. Hope the next 8 years are not going to be the Press bitching and complaining constantly like they have been the last 4 months.

  40. HERE is the difference:
    2015 – The left-wingers favorite son is in office. ANY Patriot who fails to show up is instantly labeled as a racist. The media pressures every Patriot to show up, whether they agree with Emperor Obama or not. So it’s basically a public relations media blackmail campaign to force every patriot to show up, and if any patriot doesn’t agree with socialism/communism then he had better keep his trap shut.

    2017 – The media HATES Trump with a passion. Therefore they pressure Patriot players to NOT show up at the WH, just so the media can use it as a platform to criticize President Trump’s policies. Any Pats players who doesn’t show, is labeled as a ‘hero” by the media. The very same media who DEMANDED strict compliance with liberal views/opinions while the Emperor was in power.

    THAT is the difference. The MEDIA uses its ability to threaten and destroy people in order to get compliance. Either players agree with BLM, LGBT, “global warming” or the media will orchestrate a campaign to run them out of the NFL by creating a perception of incompetence. So the MEDIA is a bully.

  41. They go so often who wants to go do something they just did. The liberal press doesn’t miss an opportunity to disparage Trump…heads up, people know what this is about…Thank God we have someone in the White House willing to enforce laws and assert ourselves when necessary.

  42. superpatriotsfan says:
    Apr 20, 2017 8:43 AM
    Lol those players who missed this trip will wish they went. Last time the Patriots go to that white house.

    —–

    You might be right–when they win the Super Bowl this coming year and the next one after that, most of them will have become bored by the trip by then.

  43. It’s pathetic that the media didn’t notice this. It’s quite obvious. There are women and fat old men in the 2015 picture. Not to mention we know there were 50 players vs 34, and yet there are clearly over 80 people in the 2015 photo.

  44. owa65 says:
    Apr 19, 2017 10:53 PM
    Liberal math I guess (half the patriots didn’t attend). From what I’ve seen at CNN, okay could be fake news, but only 8 or so Patriots didn’t attend the White House out of a roster of 53 players? Doesn’t seem close to half to me but I’m a dumb conservative.
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    8 or so? Try 34 or so. Typical republican fact dodging. Is the earth flat or has the crazy media been perpetuating this bogus earth is round nonsense as well?

  45. I always get a kick out of these comments when I see how people view politics as a sport. They’re so happy their team won (yeah go Republicans! woot woot) they don’t care about voting against their own interests and are too dumb to realize they’ve been conned. But yeah, congrats I guess. 4 more years!

  46. In 2015, everyone on the stairs was administrative staff. In 2017, it didn’t because they were on the south lawn.

    Media and Trump haters trying to hate on anything they can, however they never seem to get the full story.

  47. seanx40 says:
    Apr 19, 2017 9:25 PM
    What “context”? Half of the current Patriots didn’t go due to their objection to the current President.
    ——————
    Over half the current Patriots – some 33 of the 53 – weren’t even on the squad for the last photo 2yrs ago because of the high turnover that top teams (especially perennially top ones like the Pats since 2001) have to put up with in the era of cap & FA. More than the sheer success and its length (in 16yrs reaching 11 AFCCGs and 7 SBs) the incredible turnover makes the dynastic-like run far more impressive than dynasties of old that were simply able to keep a great squad together for say 5yrs for repeated SB runs.

  48. The combination of a narcissistic, defensive, insecure, exaggerating blowhard in the White House and a media determined to object to and nitpick even the most trivial supposed inconsistency like kindergarteners is not going to produce good results.

  49. The NY Times editor just put out a statement that he is an “idiot” who only spent 4 minutes looking at the pictures before running with that dumb tweet. In other words, the Pats win again.

  50. What’s the point of all the attacks on Trump or the Patriots who went? You’re not changing anybody’s minds. People don’t go to this site to read political commentary, or political vitriol, for that matter. The Patriots went to the White House, Trump congratulated them, end of story. If that incenses you, too bad, get over it.

  51. I don’t eat up everything Trump says and i did not vote for him the primary. However, he’s my President, and some of the things the media tries to blame him for or cast him negatively for are absurd. Yes, he hasn’t kept every promise, but there is a long list of promises Obama and every other President made campaigning that they didn’t keep either.

  52. The Patriots team official lied. The White House invited fewer than 70 Patriots and only 34 showed up. If you count the number standing in the photo, it shows about 30 something of them. So, why were there 40 more Patriots sitting on the lawn? Who are they and why are they not standing on the stairs? They have no answers for these questions because they flat out lied.

  53. Some people love Trump.

    Some people hate Trump.

    But everybody who appreciates greatness loves the Patriots.

    Even the few ones left that deep down know it, but just won’t admit it…..yet.

    🙂

  54. The fake stream media can’t lie with impunity anymore. Everyday the public and independent organizations are debunking the fake stream media in real time. The Internet has removed the elite’s death grip on the news. The fake stream media has destroyed its own credibility.

  55. fordmandalay says:
    Apr 19, 2017 10:04 PM
    Or maybe there were a lot of players who decided to be decent human beings who decided not to honor or legitimize a racist, bigoted, misogynist lying thief who’s brought actual frickin’ Nazis into the White House. Crazy thought, I know.

    So the players, coaches and team personnel who stayed home for the last 8 years were just racist, bigoted, misogynistic liars?

  56. The Patriots have been there 5 times. Player who went each time: 51, 33, 27, 50, 34

    There is nothing more odd about…

    34 players going this year to meet Trump rather than 50 going two years ago to meet Obama

    then there is about

    33 players going 12 years ago to meet Bush rather than 51 going two years prior, to also meet Bush.

  57. The media is running about the same “trust” level as Congress.

    The internet news and social outlets have balanced the field.

    The MSM tries to get away with this garbage all the time.

    Good for the patriots to rebuke the NYT!!!!

  58. I just came back to this thread and note that my post from last night disappeared. Maybe it didn’t meet the high journalistic standards of PFT.

    But I will persist. I can’t believe that PFT is spending time on crowd size at a White House photo op. This is why I barely watch ESPN anymore because of their political reporting.

    I reluctantly voted for Trump last year, but this kind of nonsensical reporting is making me a real supporter.

    Stick to sports PFT or start to go the way of ESPN.

  59. They’re clarifying it because they are probably sick of the childish, idiotic, behavior of people playing politics over a trip to the nation’s capital by a football team. Every year a team goes to the White House and every year some players go and some players don’t. Who freaking cares?!!

  60. I’m a Pats’ fan and not a fan of Trump, but this really isn’t a story. The attendance by players this year was not very different than it was two years ago. The difference in the photos makes a strong visual impression, but apparently it’s an illusion. But it really doesn’t matter.
    There are far better ways to judge Trump’s job performance. Would be nice if our media did a better job.

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