Browns could trade up from No. 12 to draft Mitchell Trubisky

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The Browns have talked about trading down from the No. 1 overall pick, and about trading for a veteran quarterback. But what about trading up from their second first-round pick, No. 12 overall, to draft a quarterback?

According to Mary Kay Cabot of Cleveland.com, that’s a possibility, and the quarterback they’d be trading up for is North Carolina’s Mitchell Trubisky.

“We are open to it,” Browns G.M. Sashi Brown said, although he didn’t say whether Trubisky is the player they’d move up to draft.

So if the Browns’ dream scenario is to come out of the first round with both Myles Garrett and Trubisky, they could take Garrett first overall and then package some of their other picks with the No. 12 pick to move back into the Top 10 and get Trubisky. Doing that, however, would run counter to the Browns’ general strategy of accumulating more picks by trading down.

“Generally, we value picks,” Brown said. “We think no matter how prepared you are there is always a lot of uncertainty in the draft. Every team misses. We’re not going to be different in that regard. We like young talent. We’ve said the draft is going to be the pipeline. We don’t want to get into a habit of turning two picks into one, so to speak. We just don’t think that is a good way to do business over time.”

So if the Browns do trade up for Trubisky, that would be a departure from their strategy of accumulating picks. If they think Trubisky is a franchise quarterback, however, a departure from their strategy could be wise.

80 responses to “Browns could trade up from No. 12 to draft Mitchell Trubisky

  1. Whatever decision they make, trade they engineer, player they pass over or hot prospect they move up to draft, history says it will be the wrong move.

  2. I don’t think there’s enough tape on this guy to actually trade up to get him. Then again, I don’t think he’s even first round material.

  3. Trading up isn’t always bad. Even the Patriots, who horde picks, traded up twice in the same first round for Hightower and Chandler Jones. The problem is doing it repeatedly.

  4. Browns are in real danger right now of being the Browns.

    I know everyone looks at Garrett like a lock. But go back to the tape. He lacks physicality. I think he will have SOME struggles in his first few years.

    Trivially on the other hand would be a third round prospect in many other drafts. Browns need to stay away from the projected first round crop. There isn’t a franchise QB in there.

    I’m not a Browns fan and could honestly care less what they do. But even I’m getting tired of them not being competititive.

  5. I don’t think I would give up picks so that I could move up and possibly get Trubisky.

  6. Don’t do it. Don’t get caught in the “hometown boy” hype of Trubisky. The Browns aren’t a QB away from the playoffs and they have lots of holes to fill. Their current QB stable is just ok. Take Garrett at 1, take the next best player on the board at 12 and build the rest of the team. They’ll certainly have a high pick next year and they have extra picks to move up to get a QB next year, which looks to be a better class than this year.

  7. Oh so Browns.

    Would you rather have a professionally NFL-coached Jimmy G for that pick and package or a completely unproven Mitch?

    Wait Browns, don’t answer until you talk to that bum around the corner from the stadium.

  8. “According to Mary Kay Cabot”

    My unnamed source tells me Cabot is just speculating. Again. Like always.

  9. Stop listening to Mary Kay. She basically has a few low level insiders and not much imagination. And she loves Tribisky. I really hope we play it smart this year and not go trading up for very questionable QBs.

  10. So, the Browns took two DEs and a QB in the first three rounds in 2016. Now they are going to take a DE and QB again in the first round this year? Can’t wait for 2018’s mock drafts where the Browns will take DEs and QBS in the early rounds again, lol. Browns fans are simply not smart.

  11. exinsidetrader says:
    Apr 20, 2017 7:25 AM
    Oh so Browns.

    Would you rather have a professionally NFL-coached Jimmy G for that pick and package or a completely unproven Mitch?
    – —————————————-

    Jimmy G has played what? A game and a half professionally? Who else looked good for a game and a half, or even LONGER before cratering? Nick Foles, Matt Cassell, Rob Johnson, AJ Feeley, Ryan Fitzpatrick? Hell… Todd Marinovich had a few good games too. Lets not pretend that Jimmy G is a ‘proven’ NFL QB. If he was really the solid lock that everyone seems to think he is, why in the WORLD would the Pats even consider trading him? Brady, despite his protestations, is likely another 2-3 years away. Why not keep Jimmy to be the heir if he’s THAT good?

  12. Last year they signed Griffin, and now they’re thought to be considering trading up to draft a QB with all kinds of caveats. Starting to look like Moneyball should have stayed with baseball!

  13. Everyone knows the Titans are open for business at #5.

    And yes, as an outsider if I could get Jimmy G for the 12 pick I’d rather do that but all indications are that the Pats aren’t letting him go for anything less than a RG3 haul, which would be dumb for the Browns to do. I like JG but he is far from a proven commodity at this point.

  14. If they do this, they’re still the Browns.

    My goodness. Only the Browns could screw up having #1 and #12 in the 1st rd.

    I can just see it now…

    “Trubisky, the hometown hero is like Bernie Kosar reincarnated! Come on, come all!”

    “He’s only played 1 college season and he’s our savior and he’ll start Week 1 immediately with our 18 milion dollar back up riding the bench! All is well!”

  15. Browns have 11 picks. They don’t have room to keep them all. Obviously they’d prefer to keep their second rounders but if they like a QB why not trade one to get their guy. You only have room to stockpile so many picks.

  16. The Browns were in love with Garoppolo. I don’t see the Patriots franchising him next year so if the Browns really want him, then use this draft to build up the talent on the roster so he chooses them in free agency.

  17. If Brady gets #6 this coming season, my guess is he retires…
    That Puts Jimmy in the drivers seat, so I don’t see the Pats trading away Jimmy…..& if Brady doesn’t, my guess is they franchise Jimmy & give Brady one more chance for #6….either way Jimmy is the QB of the future for pats & the following 10-12 years.
    So, good luck to Browns in their search

  18. The new Browns front office is not the old Browns front office. It is not going to get turned around in one or two seasons.

    These guys know what they are doing. But will ownership let them implement the process? That is the big question.

    Jimmy Johnson has consulted w/them. As he did w/Dallas he got a slew of picks (of course as JJ said you still have to hit on them).

    Jimmy Johnson was also a mentor to Belichick a lot more than people realize. Pats would trade down and acquire more picks and they hit on a high percentage of their picks.

  19. stairwayto7 says:
    Apr 20, 2017 6:51 AM
    San Fran, Chicago, Jets will all trade down

    They can’t all trade down. There aren’t 3 risers worthy of all of them trading down. Only 2 can trade down at the most, one who doesn’t Trubisky and one who doesn’t Watson.

    Unless Cleveland pulls a Brown and selects Pat Mahomes @ #1.

  20. ak18346 says:
    Apr 20, 2017 7:29 AM

    Panthers would be a team I believe that would consider the trade
    _____
    Personally, I just as soon see us stay at 8 and take McCaffrey. If we trade down out of the top 10, there is no logical reason to do anything but take Cam Robinson or Ramczyk. We have to come out of this draft with an OL guy. I’m not sold on Ryan’s little brother at LT, and Oher is never going to play again. Robinson or Ramczyk could start at RT and if Ryan’s little brother bombs out at LT, we could move the young guy to LT.

    So for the Panthers it’s either McCaffrey at 8 or one of the OL candidates at 12. Nothing else makes sense for the Panthers.

  21. Berry and Brown mantra was we’ll do what’s best for the football team. The media (MKC) then asked them about all the rumors and they wouldn’t take the bait. Brown said he heard all the rumors but wouldn’t comment on them. Brown was asked would they be trading for a veteran QB before or around the draft and he said NO.

  22. I would just hold the picks and draft the best player on the board every time your name is called.
    They need LOTS of good players… not one or two.

    On the same thought if the Browns offered the Bears the 12th pick plus their two 2nd rounders for the 3rd overall I would do it in a heartbeat.
    Ryan Pace is an idiot so the more picks he has the better their chances of getting a couple of good players out of the draft just based on the law of averages.

  23. On if it would be a stretch philosophically to trade up in the first round or if it is a possibility:

    Brown: “We are open to it. Generally, we value picks. We think no matter how prepared you are there is always a lot of uncertainty in the draft. Every team misses. We are not going to be different in that regard. We like young talent. We have said the draft is going to be the pipeline. We don’t want to get into a habit of turning two picks into one, so to speak. We just don’t think that is a good way to do business over time. We have studied this around the league, and it is just our inclination. It does not mean that if there is a player there we might not go take a shot. We think we are positioned to be able to do that without impacting our draft much.”

  24. He went 13 of 33 for 58 yards and 2 picks against Virginia Tech. VT is decent but not exactly an NFL caliber defense. His team, in his year of starting, went 8-5. He probably had some good games but he had some stinkers, too. Why is he considered a top prospect? He has the look?

  25. The Browns were in love with Garoppolo. I don’t see the Patriots franchising him next year so if the Browns really want him, then use this draft to build up the talent on the roster so he chooses them in free agency.

    ————–

    If Osweiler went at 18 mil in FA, the Browns would be dumb not to deal for JimmyG and get him under a reasonable contract, say around 12 mil per.

    It’s a lot better than paying 18-20 mil per like the Raiders will be forced to do with Carr and the Skins with Cousins.

    At least by dealing for him , they can structure a deal, enough to overwhelm JImmyG with guarantees that he can’t refuse, but at the same time, not be gouged into that cap hell price pocket under the now infamous Joe Flacco Contract”, the latter sinking teams into a cap hell for the ages.

    What’s ironic is, the QB position has now gone back to the god awful pre-2011 numbers of 1st rd QBs getting 15-20 mil per like Sanchez got in 2009 as a rookie, which was essentially

    It’s amazing what Ozzie Newsome’s irresponsible work as a GM has caused.

    As a Pats fan, watching 70% of the league plunge into a cap hell, it’s quite comical.

  26. We never know for sure what goes on behind those closed doors (and neither do the sports reporters that like to venture guesses and report them as inside dope) but if Cleveland was indeed looking to go after a first round QB that would give some indication on how the Pats are digging in to not trade JG for even a high price. I could be wrong, but my guess is no worse than anyone else’s.

    Those that are eager to see the end of Tom Brady can take it a step further and postulate that if thats the Patriot’s stance then perhaps the end is closer than is being indicated. Again, only guesswork by a guy that doesnt have any actual knowledge.

  27. Or they can trade back from 12….or they can stay at 12. False info is constantly being spread by 32 teams to cover their true intentions.

  28. jahbrohknee says:
    Apr 20, 2017 8:31 AM
    exinsidetrader says:
    Apr 20, 2017 7:25 AM
    Oh so Browns.

    Would you rather have a professionally NFL-coached Jimmy G for that pick and package or a completely unproven Mitch?
    – —————————————-

    Jimmy G has played what? A game and a half professionally? Who else looked good for a game and a half, or even LONGER before cratering? Nick Foles, Matt Cassell, Rob Johnson, AJ Feeley, Ryan Fitzpatrick? Hell… Todd Marinovich had a few good games too. Lets not pretend that Jimmy G is a ‘proven’ NFL QB. If he was really the solid lock that everyone seems to think he is, why in the WORLD would the Pats even consider trading him? Brady, despite his protestations, is likely another 2-3 years away. Why not keep Jimmy to be the heir if he’s THAT good?
    ———————————————————-
    Brock Osweiler…..

    Desperate teams make desperate moves…

  29. Agree with many previous posters, don’t reach for a QB when you have massive holes up and down the roster. Build the lines, take best available, don’t try to take a shortcut. There’s 31 other organizations of smart, professional people that all have a massive head start (well, except the turd circus in Santa Clara) – you have to pay your dues and be patient.

    If they can get Trubby in the 4th, maybe take a shot. Otherwise, I agree with other posters, that’s why they are where they are now.

  30. Pre-draft talk.

    Based on this i can say with 100% certainty that the Browns have no interest in Trubisky.

    That leaves Kizer, Watson or Mahomes as their target at 12.

  31. Has anyone asked what if the “Russians” hack into our NFL draft or if any team “colludes” with the Russians? Rachel Maddow, where are you on this topic!

  32. Trubisky’s bowl game doesn’t mean anything. He threw a pick 6 but he also rallied the team and scored a potentially game tying TD in the 2 minute drill. He had a few really nice plays where he flashed NFL level talent.

    Trubisky may not make it in the NFL but he’s a much better talent than Blake Bortles or EJ Manuel ever was.

    (Or Christian Ponder.)

  33. Or they can trade back from 12….or they can stay at 12. False info is constantly being spread by 32 teams to cover their true intentions.

    ———

    Nailed it.

    The funniest thing is Schefter and Rappoport actually believing BB with him saying they won’t be dealing JimmyG.

    lol

  34. “If Osweiler went at 18 mil in FA, the Browns would be dumb not to deal for JimmyG and get him under a reasonable contract, say around 12 mil per.”

    Jimmy isn’t signing a long term deal for less than $20 million a year with $35 million guaranteed. We’ve already seen this with Kirk Cousins, who is guaranteed $18 million plus $24 million for his first 2 years of free agency under the tag. That’s the minimum for good starting QBs.

  35. Trubisky’s bowl game doesn’t mean anything. He threw a pick 6 but he also rallied the team and scored a potentially game tying TD in the 2 minute drill. He had a few really nice plays where he flashed NFL level talent.

    Trubisky may not make it in the NFL but he’s a much better talent than Blake Bortles or EJ Manuel ever was.

    (Or Christian Ponder.)

    —-

    Agreed. But, JimmyG is clearly the better “win and start now” prospect.

    Trubisky needs more seasoning and reps.

    I don’t know how this is debatable.

    I mean, if you take Jack, and then deal for Jimmy G, you have 2 slam dunk cornerstone players to build around with Joe Thomas and hopefully a more mature Josh Gordon.

    That means, Cleveland would be 2 more good drafts away, with strategic, well priced FA moves along the way.

  36. Pre-draft talk.

    Based on this i can say with 100% certainty that the Browns have no interest in Trubisky.

    That leaves Kizer, Watson or Mahomes as their target at 12

    ——–

    Or JimmyG.

    Explain how a 2nd rd pick in a better draft class with 4 years of high production, preseason action on tape, 1.5 games on tape with great play, somehow a weaker view of what he would provide over the names you just listed?

  37. How does this year’s crop compare to next years? I keep hearing it’s night and day, in favor of the 2018 draft. Let’s get real here, if the best prospect next year is light years ahead of the best prospect this year, why are they moving up?

    Draft BPA this year and grab your qb next year. This team is not a playoff contender and will be picking top 10 next year with a ton of picks to move up to get a better prospect. As a Browns fan, I’ve waiting 16 years, I can wait 1 more.

  38. Trubisky is a smoke screen. Garoppolo goes to Cleveland for #12 in the first or for a second round ddraft pick in 2017 and another second in 2018.

  39. Trubisky is the 2017 version of blaine gabbert and Blake Bortles. Why waste a first round pick on a completely unknown? Its a huge gamble and the house usually wins.

    GET SMART BROWNS! Take BPA with first pick and trade down with 12th to get more picks and take BPA with those. You need more than just a quarterback.

    Sincerely,

    Seahawks fan

  40. Buffalo is blowing a ton of smoke trying to make this happen. They either have their eye on a different QB or are trying to get somebody pushed down the draft

  41. True – the Browns need players. But they also need a lot of picks, to get a lot of players.

    Not sold on Mitchell. Or Kizer. Like Watson and Mahomes better.

    There’s 10 teams that need a QB now or in immediate future.

    If they don’t pick QB at 12, AZ right behind them at 13 then Houston 25 KC 27. You could trade back number of spots…gamble and see if AZ won’t pick QB, or if one of those other teams doesn’t try to hop past you…

  42. Any talk of the Browns trading up for trubisky is just Haslam being neighborly. Trubisky lives a short distance from Haslam house and probably cuts his grass.

  43. Easy -3- way trade

    Chicago Moves to #1 Cleveland to #2 Frisco to #12 Cleveland to #3

    Chicago gives Frisco its 1st round pick next year

    Cleveland is a wash moving down (2) from 1st to 2nd while also moving up 9 to get to 3rd

    Frisco gains a very probable top 5 pick next year over all for moving down #9

    Chicago gains Myles Garrett for the cost of a future 1st

    Win-win-win

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