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Bills scouts bracing for a post-draft house cleaning

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Although plenty of teams react to a bad season by dumping front-office employees in January, the more sensible approach is to wait until after the draft. That’s when the bulk of the work has ended, and it also prevents the scout from taking to a new team the fruits of the labor performed on the prior employer’s nickel.

In Buffalo, there’s a belief that the Bills will be making extensive moves in the front office when the draft concludes. Per a league source, the team’s scouts are bracing for job changes after the draft. As one scout explained it, “We are all getting fired next week.”

In response to that claim, the Bills provided to PFT the following statement: “Right now, our focus is on the preparation for this week’s draft. Like every year, evaluations of our player personnel staff take place following the draft. And this year will be no different.”

The Bills fired coach Rex Ryan late in the regular season, replacing him with Sean McDermott. Various reports and rumors have indicated that G.M. Doug Whaley could be on the way out.

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25 Responses to “Bills scouts bracing for a post-draft house cleaning”
  1. fndraiser says: Apr 26, 2017 2:39 PM

    Doug whaley,

    I just signed your running back this week. Consider this a friendly reminder please send me your last weeks lunch money ASAP .

    Warmest Regards
    Bill B

  2. teal379 says: Apr 26, 2017 2:49 PM

    Unless you can see their prior work history – would you want a scout from a team that’s obviously not drafted well?

  3. elyasm says: Apr 26, 2017 2:50 PM

    This is perfectly normal and a standard operating practice for a healthy organization. #NotDysunctionalAtAll

  4. tedmurph says: Apr 26, 2017 3:06 PM

    If you look at the Bills depth chart, they really haven’t drafted a lot of good FB players over the last 5 yrs. Despite having a lot of high pks.

  5. therealtrenches says: Apr 26, 2017 3:06 PM

    It’s usually the case that *someone* on the staff — a guy here, a guy there — is seasoned, highly regarded, and has been doing a bang up job, despite the team’s poor performance.

    Good coaches who come into new situations usually demonstrate…you know…intelligence. They figure out who’s been doing a good job, whose philosophy meshes with theirs, and they keep them.

    Coaches with complexes, coaches who think they have something to prove, *young* coaches with that smartest-guy-in-the-room syndrome? Those guys usually fire everyone.

    Guess which category McDermott falls into?

  6. sirgrinsley says: Apr 26, 2017 3:07 PM

    @elyasm
    As a Bills fan, I have no problem dumping the scouts. Just look at how poorly we’ve drafted the last 15 years…. it may not be conventional, but how else do you expect change. But, I would have fired them before the draft so we’re not stuck with bad picks again lol

  7. therealtrenches says: Apr 26, 2017 3:15 PM

    It’s a couple of days before the draft and the scouts are going public with the fact that they’re pretty sure they’re all gonna get fired.

    That bodes well for a great draft, doesn’t it?

    And gee…what people skills Sean McDermott must have, huh? They must’ve really felt like the work environment he staged was pretty danged productive, huh?

  8. styro1 says: Apr 26, 2017 3:22 PM

    sirgrinsley says:
    Apr 26, 2017 3:07 PM
    @elyasm
    As a Bills fan, I have no problem dumping the scouts. Just look at how poorly we’ve drafted the last 15 years…. it may not be conventional, but how else do you expect change. But, I would have fired them before the draft so we’re not stuck with bad picks again lol
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    That would seem to be the smart play. If you’re not happy with the scouts work and are going to fire them best to do it at end of season, before they ruin another draft for the team.

  9. corkspop says: Apr 26, 2017 3:25 PM

    Wouldn’t surprise me if this happens a lot all around the League. McDermott is well traveled and has every right to rely on scouts, and others, who understand what he wants and needs to make his program work. It also wouldn’t surprise me if he pried a few scouts away from Carolina.

  10. PegulaBucks says: Apr 26, 2017 3:35 PM

    by Scouts they mean Doug Whaley he will be gone with the people he hired. In will come the new GM ( i say it will just be a president of football ops) and they will bring a staff that can work with new coaching staff.

  11. tonebones says: Apr 26, 2017 3:46 PM

    Sounds ridiculous, but we don’t know if it’s true. The Bills have a made a couple very big mistakes, but those mistakes are above what scouts usually do. They’re more in line with what the GM and top personnel advisors do. They sign QBs who can’t play in the NFL, and they pass up great young QBs like Carr and Prescott. The Bills roster, aside from QBs isn’t a bad roster, and the mistakes have been few. But they’re also the most important decisions, and they’re the decisions that show the competence of the GM. After all, if you can’t get the QB position right, you have zero chance to win. Then you start firing coaches and scouts. Those same coaches and scouts might be wearing super bowl rings if they had a QB like Tom Brady.

  12. fortunesmith says: Apr 26, 2017 4:16 PM

    styro1 says:
    Apr 26, 2017 3:22 PM

    That would seem to be the smart play. If you’re not happy with the scouts work and are going to fire them best to do it at end of season, before they ruin another draft for the team.

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    Immediately after the draft is actually the best time to replace scouts. Work on the 2018 draft starts right after the 2017 draft concludes. By the time the NFL season ends, most of the scouting work is done.

  13. buffalosunshine says: Apr 26, 2017 4:23 PM

    I hope they draft Leonard Fournette… Thunder and Lightning just like Carolina had.. forget about trying to WR beyond Sammy.. there will be WR’s in the later rounds.. we need someone who can add to what we do and who we are… have Shady and Fournette pound the rock.. if the scouts can convince them of this.. they get go off to scout pasture with honor.

  14. mongo3401 says: Apr 26, 2017 4:44 PM

    Overdorf and the entire conditioning staff should be shown the door also. Ralph Wilson was a wonderful man but at his age he just let things go along as business as usual. When you are in your 90s just waking up is a victory. This is not a new coach I gotta prove something thing. It’s an awakening and accepting reality that the entir FO, scouts and training staff should have been let go a decade ago or at least 5 years ago. Th y can’t go anywhere but up from here. Granted Whaley is the pits but you can’t tell me his scouts weren’t the ines bearing on the drum for EJ Manuel and others. Pegulas may be new at this and naive but like Ross did in Miami, sooner or later they wake up as owners.

  15. johnnnyschatzan says: Apr 26, 2017 4:56 PM

    Exactly what you want your front office discussing a day before the draft

  16. MichaelEdits says: Apr 26, 2017 5:03 PM

    Just like ESPN

  17. doublebase says: Apr 26, 2017 5:20 PM

    It’s not all that uncommon for this to happen, new management keeps them around through the draft – so they don’t blab about who they’re interested in – then they dump everyone. And most likely they’re already blabbing about who they’re interested in, but it really doesn’t matter all that muc…the scouts are probably in the dark anyway.

  18. cover200 says: Apr 26, 2017 5:43 PM

    Until Brady and Belicheck retire none of this matters. Everyone you bring in will fail simply by default

  19. mclennon99 says: Apr 26, 2017 5:53 PM

    The Bills haven’t had a decent scouting department since the late great John Butler was head scout and Bill Polian was GM.

  20. popolover1 says: Apr 26, 2017 10:40 PM

    Doug Whaley is just a perfect example of too young and inexperienced. Period.

  21. popolover1 says: Apr 26, 2017 10:42 PM

    Doug Whaley is just the perfect example of too young and inexperienced. Period. A whole age group of men have been skipped over…

  22. sd5555 says: Apr 27, 2017 11:59 AM

    therealtrenches says:
    Apr 26, 2017 3:06 PM
    It’s usually the case that *someone* on the staff — a guy here, a guy there — is seasoned, highly regarded, and has been doing a bang up job, despite the team’s poor performance.

    Good coaches who come into new situations usually demonstrate…you know…intelligence. They figure out who’s been doing a good job, whose philosophy meshes with theirs, and they keep them.

    Coaches with complexes, coaches who think they have something to prove, *young* coaches with that smartest-guy-in-the-room syndrome? Those guys usually fire everyone.

    Guess which category McDermott falls into?

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    The head coach doesn’t have say in that side of the organization. The front office people, including the scouting department, report to the GM, not the head coach. The coaches make suggestions and highly recommend players that they like after watching film cut-ups the scouting department gives them, but don’t have any say in who the scouting department personnel are. College coaches do recruiting, but not in the NFL.

  23. woodbridgekid73 says: Apr 27, 2017 1:58 PM

    Burning down the scouting department is at least 12 years overdue, but better late than never I suppose!

  24. superpatriotsfan says: Apr 28, 2017 9:41 AM

    Doug whaley,

    I cannot draft worth a damn so I have to steal players from other teams like yours because I have all this cap money due under the table deals orchestrated by my boss Bob Kraft. Consider this a friendly reminder please send me your last weeks lunch money ASAP .

    Warmest Regards
    Bill B

  25. termite6060 says: Apr 30, 2017 9:51 PM

    If I knew I was getting fired, I’d sabotage the draft, just to stick it to whomever decided to get rid of me A WEEK LATER.

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