Mickey Loomis: No Malcolm Butler discussions “for quite some time”

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Earlier this week, Peter King of TheMMQB.com reported that the prospect of trading for Patriots cornerback Malcolm Butler and giving him a new contract had become “less attractive” to the Saints than it had been at other points this offseason.

Saints coach Sean Payton and General Manager Mickey Loomis have both been asked about Butler during media sessions this week and neither one said anything to rule out the possibility of a trade. They didn’t say anything that made it seem likely to happen either.

Payton said that nothing is “imminent” on Tuesday and Loomis said Wednesday that the topic hasn’t been on the table for the team recently.

“We haven’t really had any discussion for quite some time,” Loomis said, via the New Orleans Advocate. “Look, he’s their player. So, we’ll see how that evolves.”

King reported that the Saints don’t want to part with any of their three picks in the first two rounds in a deal for Butler. That could possibly change if things unfold differently than they expect when the draft gets rolling on Thursday night, but it certainly seems like Butler’s chances of leaving New England for New Orleans are slim.

31 responses to “Mickey Loomis: No Malcolm Butler discussions “for quite some time”

  1. Good…… He’s playing for the Pats this year & helping make their secondary one of the best!!!!

  2. No problem keeping him. Best defensive backfield in the NFL this season along with Ring # 6 and get a 3rd round pick back in the supplemental draft.

  3. As a fan of another team in the AFC east I kind of wish the trade would happen. New England was scary good on D down the stretch with Butler and a pretty average Ryan as their 1 & 2 corners. I don’t even want to think about them with a secondary that has Butler paired with Gilmore.

  4. I wouldn’t trade him anyway, but the fact that there are no players in the first three rounds that match his talent makes it a no brainer. The only one who can screw this up at this point is Butler’s agent.

  5. At this point I hope they can still work out a trade. Otherwise, you get back a player that is disgruntled both because they payed Gilmour and deprived him of his payday.

  6. Does anyone believe ANYTHING an NFL team official says anymore? We celebrate the liars as if the truth is a concept with no relevance to the NFL or to US sports in general. The NFL applauds the lies and punishes the players for using a pain relief alternative that does not cause massive cumulative organ damage that opiates entail. I really don’t believe ANYTHING said by teams; I wait for the transactions. Shouldn’t we all tune out the liars? Isn’t it time that the talking heads refuse to give any credence to statements they know to be or suspect are lies? Try to teach ethics to a child based on the NFL – it would be hilarious!

  7. Ecstatic that he’ll be a Patriot this year. He’ll play his rear end off to get the big money after next season and the Pats will have a top 3 secondary this year.

    Butler’s presence on the Pats increases their chances of returning to the Super Bowl.

  8. Two things. First, if you trade a player under contract, which would be the case with Butler, you don’t get a compensatory pk. 2nd, Butler has more talent than any of the 15 or so CBs that will be taken in the 1rst 3 rnds? Including the 5/6 taken in the 1rst? I’m a Pats fan too, but sheesh.

  9. Does anyone believe ANYTHING an NFL team official says anymore? We celebrate the liars as if the truth is a concept with no relevance to the NFL or to US sports in general. The NFL applauds the lies and punishes the players for using a pain relief alternative that does not cause massive cumulative organ damage that opiates entail. I really don’t believe ANYTHING said by teams; I wait for the transactions. Shouldn’t we all tune out the liars? Isn’t it time that the talking heads refuse to give any credence to statements they know to be or suspect are lies? Try to teach ethics to a child based on the NFL – it would be hilarious!

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    Keeping something from the media and fans that is meant to be a private business negotiate over millions of dollars is not lying. Fans and media have no right to that info.

  10. I remember that wk 2 gm against Miami. 31-3 until late 3rd qtr. You could almost hear the Pats making dinner plans in the huddle. That was with JG and Brissett. Wow, those dolphins sure are scary.

  11. As a Falcons fan, i’m sure y’all will pile on about our choke job, but man all of our receivers ate Butler’s lunch in the Superbowl. I don’t watch a lot of Patriots football but the game I did see Butler in he was pure garbage. On one play Taylor Gabriel broke Malcom’s ankles right from the LOS. So, PLEASE let him go to NO.

  12. 3rd and 20, last drive for Atlanta. All they need is 8 yards for a game sealing field goal. Who broke up the pass? Malcolm Butler. This guy has 2 rings for a reason. Why would you get rid of him?

  13. I know what all you Patriots fans want but what does Butler want? Lemme guess. He probably doesn’t want to play in New England for peanuts (big money to me and you). He likely is a bit upset that Gilmore is the highest paid cornerback on the team. So ask yourself Pats fans is he a potential problem?

    Maybe a third round pick for him sounds a bit better now.

  14. I understand why he is frustrated. But it better not show in his play or his attitude. He will be off the team in a Belichick second. And as soon as he is able, he probably ought to get himself a real agent.

  15. .
    @orndorf

    ” He likely is a bit upset that Gilmore is the highest paid cornerback on the team. So ask yourself Pats fans is he a potential problem? ”

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    If Butler is upset with his contract, it’s because he doesn’t understand the rules of the game. It’s common knowledge that the big money is paid to those who are true free agents. He will not hit free agency until next year.

    If he wants to cop an attitude, it’s not a problem. He can ride the pine and watch his megabucks payday decrease by a million a week, or get a bus ticket to Cleveland. The Patriots have several young CBs to fill the gap.
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  16. weepingjebus says:
    Apr 26, 2017 6:14 PM
    I wouldn’t trade him anyway, but the fact that there are no players in the first three rounds that match his talent makes it a no brainer. The only one who can screw this up at this point is Butler’s agent.

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    Butlers agent: “Hold my beer”

  17. atldirtybird1 says:
    Apr 26, 2017 8:06 PM
    As a Falcons fan, i’m sure y’all will pile on about our choke job, but man all of our receivers ate Butler’s lunch in the Superbowl. I don’t watch a lot of Patriots football but the game I did see Butler in he was pure garbage. On one play Taylor Gabriel broke Malcom’s ankles right from the LOS. So, PLEASE let him go to NO.

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    Atlanta deserves no pile on. The only choking done there was the Patriots in the first half. Atlanta was still making plays even in the fourth qurter. Jones’s sickest catch was in the fourth. Ryan was throwing great. Its just the Pats went to an insane level. The Falcons should keep their heads up and come back this year.

  18. ++++++++++++++++
    atldirtybird1 says:
    Apr 26, 2017 8:06 PM
    As a Falcons fan, i’m sure y’all will pile on about our choke job, but man all of our receivers ate Butler’s lunch in the Superbowl. I don’t watch a lot of Patriots football but the game I did see Butler in he was pure garbage. On one play Taylor Gabriel broke Malcom’s ankles right from the LOS.
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    If you watch that play in slow motion, Gabriel stepped on Butler’s foot, throwing him off stride. It wasn’t a penalty, just tangled feet.

  19. All the NFCS WRs are pretty tall…. Butler could be a liability against the likes of Mike Evans and Julio Jones as he was in the 1st half of the Super Bowl. Believe me there is a very good, well thought out reasoning behind the genius Belichick deciding to give Gilmore the huge money contract instead of Butler who has helped him win 2 out of the last 3 Super Bowls. There is definitely a very good reason for every personnel decision Belichick makes.

  20. Butler has already stated publicly that he would like nothing more than to play out his career in New England, if they will just pay him what he’s worth. How would he ever know what he’s worth of nobody is making an offer?

    Well, he’s under contract with the Pats already, so they have no incentive to just pay him more now. But, as soon as he does get an offer from another team, the Pats will have to assess that offer and determine if he’s worth that much to them. If it is he may very well get his wish.

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