Chiefs think Patrick Mahomes can be “truly great”

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Chiefs General Manager John Dorsey said he traded up to pick quarterback Patrick Mahomes with the 10th overall pick in the draft for a simple reason: He thinks Mahomes is a franchise-changing player.

He has got unbelievable talent,” Dorsey said. “He’s got the skill set to be one of those truly great players. When you make an aggressive move like that, that’s why you do it. Because players like that, they don’t come around too often.”

Dorsey gave up his first-round pick this year, his third-round pick this year and his first-round pick next year for Mahomes, but he said he doesn’t think that’s a lot to give up, compared to what Mahomes had to offer.

“I don’t think it was a lot because I think he’s going to be a really good player, he’s in a perfect situation, he can sit back, he can learn, he can develop, he’s got the tutelage of some really good coaches and I couldn’t be more excited,” Dorsey said.

Dorsey is confident he just changed the Chiefs’ fortunes. Given all they gave up, Dorsey better be right.

66 responses to “Chiefs think Patrick Mahomes can be “truly great”

  1. It’s been said before but, when you trade 1st round picks, it isn’t “giving up a first round pick”, it is simply swapping picks. KC “only” gave up this year’s 3rd and next year’s 1st to get him. They ‘used’ this year’s first to select him.

  2. All good points. Not a lot of pressure for this kid immediately, and has one of the best in the game coaching him up. If he can make Foles productive, what is he going to do with a kid with much better talent?

  3. I think Mahomes is going to be a star. I’m glad he’s going with Andy Reid. Reid can get a mediocre QB into the playoffs, he should be able to get a star QB to the super bowl. Exciting times for K.C. Can’t wait!

  4. Chiefs say sky is blue.

    They’d only really make headlines if they admitted Sorry, we panicked and thought we needed to really go get a QB. He MIGHT be good, but he might suck.

  5. GREAT PICK.. Alex Smiths days are numbered. Take us to be big dance or bounce. Plain and Simple, built to win now. Refs screwed us last year

  6. Give Alex Smith some weapons and a RB that can stay healthy. NFL is a lot different than throwing to wide open receivers in college. Mahomes might be great, but hasn’t shown he can operate in a pro-style offense.

  7. ““He has got unbelievable talent,” Dorsey said. “He’s got the skill set to be one of those truly great players. When you make an aggressive move like that, that’s why you do it. Because players like that, they don’t come around too often.”

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    The Chiefs also said the same thing in 1983 (the last time they chose a QB in the 1st round) who they passed over HOFers Jim Kelly and Dan Marino to take Todd Blackledge.

    It’ll be interesting if Dorsey’s prophecy proves true or whether Mahomes is Blackledge v. 2.0.

  8. .
    No doubt this pick was a bit of a gamble. However, both of the two first rounders in question will most likely be very late. Plus, given Reid’s track record with QBs and the fact that Mahomes can take a redshirt year to adjust to the NFL game, makes me think that the possible reward outweighed the risk.

    The NFL QB position might just as well use the old commercial slogan, “You can pay me now, or pay me later”. Because, with the dearth of quality QBs coming out each year, the cost will continue to rise.
    .

  9. None of us knows anything -stop saying stuff like “Great move! He’s going to be a star!” -You don’t know!

    When I see this guy’s tape he reminds me of Big Ben -big and pretty mobile, with a cannon arm. However, that cannon arm it seems allows him to be sloppy sometimes as far as footwork and mechanics -things that I thought looked a lot more polished in Trubisky.

  10. Could’ve gotten him in the 2nd or 3rd?! You sir are a complete idiot. My god..don’t let your hatred of the Kingdom blur those lines of reality!! We got OUR guy on the cheap and you haters have sand in your whispering eye. Big Red and Dorse aren’t content on just being GOOD…something us chiefs fans aren’t used to. Also, the next person that says we gave up TWO first round picks plus the others to move up, should really keep their ears open and their mouths shut and get a clue

  11. Unless the Chiefs can get the 1985s bears defense, they are going nowhere with Alex Smith at QB. Yes, he doesnt make a lot of mistakes, but he doesnt make a lot of big plays.

  12. Ask any Viking fan about how they felt when they took Christian Ponder or Teddy Bridgewater in the first round.

    They claimed they were going to the Superbowl and that hasn’t worked out as planned. And this year doesn’t look good either.

  13. As a Chief’s fan, I am excited by the pick. If Mahomes does or does not pan out – it is still an exciting pick. Alex Smith is a solid QB who has done some very good things. He has proven he can win in the NFL…period! The film makes it look like Mahomes throws a great deep ball…something Alex Smith does not – that is the difference between these guys! The prospect of Mahomes taking over in a year or two and opening up the offense with an accurate deep ball is amazing! And if Mahomes does not pan out – still have Alex Smith for a few years to lead a talented football club.

    I also agree – Not withstanding his clock management issues, Big Red is just a little bit better judge of QB talent than anyone commenting on this site….you know….just a little…..

  14. kleppnasty says:
    Apr 28, 2017 1:10 PM

    It’s been said before but, when you trade 1st round picks, it isn’t “giving up a first round pick”, it is simply swapping picks. KC “only” gave up this year’s 3rd and next year’s 1st to get him. They ‘used’ this year’s first to select him.
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    Read again. That’s not what the author said. He said that in order to draft Mahome, the team gave up its first this year, third this year, and first next year. And that is exactly what the Chiefs did.

  15. mongo3401 says:
    Apr 28, 2017 2:28 PM
    What was the last A&M QB drafted that worked out ? Outside of a mediocre Tannehill I can’t think of any in the last decade or so.
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    That’s Texas TECH, not A&M. In any case, Tech had 3 NFL QBs on their roster at one point: Patrick Mahomes, Davis Webb, and next year it will be Baker Mayfield. Damn impressive recuiting.

  16. This kid has talent, intangibles and toughness (time after time he played hurt at Tech). He may be a little raw due to the system he played in. Nevertheless, he will be in a great situation to be coached up, and learn how to be a pro from Alex Smith. Chiefs have a great, balanced roster and could afford to pay the price needed to take a chance on a special talent like Mahomes.

  17. Please don’t let him watch Alex Smith. Outside of his read option, there’s nothing to learn from Alex Smith. I want this guy to chuck it up and let Tyreek, Conely, and Kelce to go get it.

    Alex Smith throws 7 yard darts and doesn’t let the ability of the receiver to flourish.

  18. This is an interesting move

    The thing is…it will be a huge adjustment going from the Texas Tech offense to the NFL.

    No question Mahomes has a super strong arm. But so did countless 1st round QB picks that never made it in the NFL. Does anyone remember Raiders QB JaMarcus Russell? Also an amazing arm. Arm strength is pointless if he can’t hit the right window with accuracy.

    Trying to decide what QB to draft is still a total crap shoot. You take Alex smith #1 overall but he is really an average to above average veteran, not much more. And before Jim Harbaugh, was kind of a bust. 49ers took Smith over Aaron Rodgers, who becomes a superstar. But most teams passed on Rodgers!

    49ers took QB Giovanni Carmazzi out of Hofstra in the 3rd round and passed on Tomy Brady. Apparently, Carmazzi looked more athletic than Brady…and not as skinny.

    Carmazzi never played a game in the NFL. Brady, a few.

    Jets bet the farm on a 1 year starter out of USC with a rocket arm, smooth delivery, and great numbers. Boy, that did NOT work out so well!

  19. I’ll trust John Dorsey’s and Andy Reid’s talent evaluation skills over any of yours

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    May I ask why?

    The Pats continue to dismantle your team, win SBs, and will likely embarrass you on opening night while excessively loud boos will be heard for 3 straight hours with Goodell sitting in the press box, but you keep thinking Andy “Clock Mismanagement”Reid,the modern day version of Marty Schottenheimer, or Glenn Dorsey, the latter having done JACK SQUAT in KC since taking over, somehow has improved the Chiefs to make a legit SB run.

  20. Another Pat White.

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    Probably.

    White was yet another Parcells whiff deluxe when he thought he was a good personnel guy down in Miami.

    How did that turn out?

  21. He needs a lot of work, but the one guy I’d trust on eying QB talent is Andy Reid. It’s why I scratched my head on Lynch last year because he was trying to get him too. Just check his resume, his QBs going back to when he was Favre’s QB coach have always been productive, and he’s gotten guys up to speed (McNabb and Kolb) who came out of remedial college offenses that didn’t relate to the NFL. Carr vs. Mahomes is hopefully going to be fun for 10 years.

  22. But can he execute the patented Reid 8 minute drive in the last 3 minutes or master the 3 yard check down ala Alex Smith?

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    lol

    Well, apparently, Andy Reid is a legendary coach and Glenn Dorsey is a master GM, so they make quite the duo according to Chiefs fans.

  23. San Diego Chargers, after 1998 draft –

    “We think Ryan Leaf can be truly great”

    Nobody picks a high draft pick because the think he can be truly average or truly suck.

  24. Still waiting for that team that says the day after the draft that their first pick is gonna suck and have no role on the team.

  25. Finally! No more being embarrassed watching Alice and his futile attempts to throw the ball downfield like the little girl that she is. After this year anyway.

  26. No one gives up an additional first if they don’t think they’ll be great. Luckily for Mahomes, Andy Reid knows how to develop QBs, so this is likely the best circumstance short of landing in AZ with Bruce Arians.

    We’ll have to see what happens. Maybe they can finally use Maclin to his potential.

  27. The Pats continue to dismantle your team, win SBs, and will likely embarrass you on opening night while excessively loud boos will be heard for 3 straight hours with Goodell sitting in the press box, but you keep thinking Andy “Clock Mismanagement”Reid,the modern day version of Marty Schottenheimer, or Glenn Dorsey, the latter having done JACK SQUAT in KC since taking over, somehow has improved the Chiefs to make a legit SB run.

    ___________________________________

    That’s a bogus lie. KC kicked the devil out NE causing Belichick to say, “On to Cincinnati” fifty times in one press conference. We were one Knile Davis fumble from whipping NE in the playoffs after that.

    Watch what happens on the first Thursday in September, KC gonna cruise the Pats in Foxboro.

  28. I don’t care if the kid does wind up a bust. False hope is better than no hope. Alex wears a person down, one three-and-out at a time. Drip, drip, drip. I can’t take it anymore. From the bottom of my heart, thank you, GM John Dorsey, for having the guts to make this brilliant move.

  29. vusnu says:
    Apr 28, 2017 2:20 PM
    kleppnasty says:
    Apr 28, 2017 1:10 PM

    It’s been said before but, when you trade 1st round picks, it isn’t “giving up a first round pick”, it is simply swapping picks. KC “only” gave up this year’s 3rd and next year’s 1st to get him. They ‘used’ this year’s first to select him.
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    Read again. That’s not what the author said. He said that in order to draft Mahome, the team gave up its first this year, third this year, and first next year. And that is exactly what the Chiefs did.
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    Wrong. Kansas Coty traded two first round picks for one. Simple math shows that the net result of that is KC now having one first round pick instead of two. The one first round pick they have is used on Mahomes. The other is the pick they gave up. They did not give up two first round picks, giving up two first round picks means that you lose two first round picks, and they only lost one.

    So annoying when people use this type of phrasing to make it seem as though the team gave up more than it did to make the trade look more extreme. The same thing was done when the Bills traded up for Watkins. People liked to say they gave up two first round picks to make it sound more like the Bills gave up more than they did, when in reality they used one pick on Watkins and gave up the other. They did not lose two.

  30. @tylawpick

    Oh yes, you know better than one of the winningest coaches in NFL history in Andy Reid who drafted and coached McNabb, and coached Brett Favre and Michael Vick. You know better than John Dorsey who hasn’t had a bad draft pick above round 5 in four years with the exception of Kavarie Russell (a 3rd rounder) who he had the sack to drop before the start of the season. Sorry, why aren’t you in the NFL in some capacity? Oh that’s right, some people are keyboard experts. Mahomes was a great pick in my honest opinion, but time will tell. I was glad the Pats pulled the SB out and beat Atlanta, but guys like you make me want them to lose. Tom Brady has been great but his time is about up, so keep talking. Your teams Dynasty is about over. Meanwhile KC has one of the youngest and best NFL rosters minus a star QB. Nobody knows for sure how this kid will translate to the NFL, but I will take Reid and Dorsey opinion over yours.

  31. Tylawspick6 says

    Well, apparently, Andy Reid is a legendary coach and Glenn Dorsey is a master GM, so they make quite the duo according to Chiefs fans.

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    Lol

    Glenn Dorsey? Hahaha. Glenn Dorsey was a football player of the Scott Pioli era. John Dorsey is the Chiefs GM. Well, that tells everyone all they need to know about your level of football knowledge. Why don’t you go troll some other article? What’s the matter? Can’t get over the fact Bernard Pollard took Brady out for the season a few years ago game 1? Or is it how bad KC stomped the Pats in 2014? What’s your beef? Upset because of the asterisk next to nearly all the Pats Superbowl? Well, prepare to continue your sourness as the Brady era is almost over, and Jimmy G is no Brady.

  32. trubroncfan07 says:
    Apr 28, 2017 3:44 PM

    Broncos Fans Love this move! Can’t wait till they are screaming to bench Smith for Kaep 2.0!
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    At least the Chiefs have a quarterback.

  33. tylawspick6 says:
    Apr 28, 2017 3:14 PM
    I’ll trust John Dorsey’s and Andy Reid’s talent evaluation skills over any of yours

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    May I ask why?

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    This would be humorous if you weren’t serious, but I’m betting you are. The only thing worse than an uninformed troll is an arrogant uninformed troll.

    Time to get your homework done before mom calls you downstairs for supper. You can go now.

  34. ricko1112 says:
    Apr 28, 2017 1:13 PM

    KC has gone as far as they can with Alex Smith. However, gimicks and gadget plays won’t work for long in the NFL either. Wiff….
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    Watch tape. The kid barely ever runs. Nothing “gimmick” or “gadget” about him. The only legitimate concern is transferring Big 12 Air Raid success to the NFL level. If you’re going to criticize, criticize correctly.
    sincerely,
    A chiefs hater but facts-enthusiast

  35. I really don’t know what the haters were looking for. Trading up to get the qb with the most upside in this draft, when you can afford to sit him behind a deep team, and you give up a pick (next year) when you will likely be picking between 25-32 again. Haters going to hate I guess.

  36. Everyone keep in mind that the best 2 QBs to come out of the Big 12 in it’s 20+ year history are Vince Run Young and Ryan Tannehill a former WR. That is not a good track record. The conference is basically arena football with even less defense. Take Mahomes numbers with a grain of salt. The only thing he has going for him is his MLB father. 99% chance he’s a bust.

  37. First off I agree with dcpas in that Dorsy and Reid are much better qualified to decide if a QB is good or not than me or than anyone else who has the time to type a responds on a football message board…so I will trust they know what they are doing.

    Second, jjeastwoald, no we could have not waited till the 2nd or 3rd round to get Mahomes because reports are saying that he would have not made it past the next pick (11) with the Saints.

    Third, it is so hard to predict if a QB can take the next step. Let me point out not only did arguably the best QB of all time (Tom Brady) get picked in the sixth round after 6 other QB’s….but that means that the Patriots picked 6 players (Klemm, Redmond, Randall, Stachelski, Marriott and Harris) before grabbing the player that would be a corner piece of 5 Superbowls. So I am guessing even NE did not know how good he could be. Montana was taken in the 3rd round, 4th QB picked, sooooooo many 1st round bust. It is obvious that picking a QB is a very educated guess at it best. So we can only hope he turns out well, but no one will really know for about 5 years if it was a good pick.

    Only thing that is for sure is, if you do not try, you will never get a great QB in the draft. Heck look at the Patriots, since drafting Brady they have selected: Rohan Davey, Kliff Kingsbury, Matt Cassel, Kevin O’Connell, Zac Robinson, Ryan Mallett, Jimmy Garoppolo, Jacoby Brissett. I have only heard of 3 of those guys. Cassel was average to slightly above average, Mallett is not good, and Garoppolo seems to be good, I will remind you there was a bigger buzz over Cassell when he left NE. So not saying he will not be great, but the jury is out still.

    So out of 9 QB’s picked, you have 1 Hall of famer, 1 average QB, and 2 (Garoppolo and Brissett) that it is too early to judge. Again, not a perfect science, but you keep trying in hopes of that Hall of Famer……which the Chiefs have not done in sooooooooooooooooo long, I am happy the are trying.

    If Mahomes turns out to be Blackledge 2.0, I will be very upset, but I hope they will keep trying. But he turns out to be a Manning, Favre, Brady, Montana, Steve Young, Dawson, Aikman, ect……. well worth the risk. I will be crossing my fingers for the next 3 years. LOL

  38. This tylawspick fella really is something…more like tylawsprickIN your mouth. Hey chowda heads and trolls alike…the kingdom could care less about your hot takes. It truly amazes me of the amount of uneducated jackwagons that have diarrhea of the mouth that feels it’s necessary to post…there is no such thing as a valid point or civil conversation here…it’s objective analysis…I’d love to see you people’s wondelic!! Ohhh is BB laughing somewhere because he realized he hasn’t seentered his bird sonce the Reagan administration?

  39. bannedfromchoirpractice says:
    Apr 28, 2017 4:18 PM
    I don’t care if the kid does wind up a bust. False hope is better than no hope. Alex wears a person down, one three-and-out at a time. Drip, drip, drip. I can’t take it anymore. From the bottom of my heart, thank you, GM John Dorsey, for having the guts to make this brilliant move.

    ,…………………..

    I don’t know, falling from the height of false hope is a lot more painful than a slow drip…you get a nice view before you go over the cliff, but if you survive, you also realize what you didn’t achieve.

    At least Chef fans can’t troll Denver about Lynch anymore, Mahomes is Lynch version 2017…mobile, big arm, bad footwork, not pro ready. At least Denver only used an extra third on him. Not having a first round pick next year is gonna hurt worse once fans realize Mahomes still isn’t ready.

  40. Replace Dorsey with Davis and Mahomes with Russell…sounds just like the Raiders draft ten years ago.

  41. Any negative stuff said about Mahomes isn’t from people who studied the kid. It’s from people who are listening to second hand garbage. Watch the tape for yourself. The physical talent is obvious, but it’s his mental game and poise under pressure that jumps off the tape. Most “experts” haven’t even watched the tape.

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