Ryan Pace: Report that John Fox was in the dark is “so false”

AP

On Friday afternoon, Chris Mortensen of ESPN reported that Bears G.M. Ryan Pace kept coach John Fox in the dark about the plan to get quarterback Mitchell Trubisky until only a few hours before the proceedings began. On Friday night, Pace disputed that notion.

“That stuff is so false,” Pace told reporters. “There’s consistency in everything we do, so we all work arm-in-arm and that’s the way it is and that’s the way it should be.”

Pace added that Fox was “100 percent” involved in the evaluation and planning regarding Trubisky.

“John is involved in every decision deeply,” Pace said. “The respect I have for John is enormous, especially his experience and all of the players that he’s been with. I think if you look back — and we talked about this — I think a lot of it was kept secret I thought we did a good job keeping this thing pretty under wraps, it’s so sensitive. But if you go back to the private workouts that we had, I mean John and I — it’s pretty hard to hide him — but we’re traveling to Chapel Hill and having dinners and workouts with Mitch, so he’s been deeply involved from the very beginning.”

It’s one thing to be involved in every decision, and it’s another to know exactly and precisely what the final decision will be. Is it possible that Fox was involved in the process of evaluating Trubisky but didn’t personally know what Pace would be doing until close in time to the start of the draft? If Pace didn’t make the final decision until then, then yes.

And here’s the value of keeping things secret. If word had gotten out that the Bears were planning to move from No. 3 to No. 2 to get Trubisky, the Browns may have launched a late effort to squeeze Chicago into coming all the way to No. 1 to get him. Moreover, the mere fact that the General Manager of the Bears was showing so much interest in Trubisky may have caused a late shift in Cleveland, with ownership suddenly getting behind the pro-Trubisky wing that seemed to be working all the angles to make him the pick over Garrett.

If, after all, the opinion of a homeless guy was enough to sway Jimmy Haslam to go with Johnny Manziel in 2014, the views of the gainfully employed (and fully housed) Ryan Pace would likely have a much greater impact.

19 responses to “Ryan Pace: Report that John Fox was in the dark is “so false”

  1. Poor Mitch, the fans and the coach didn’t want him at #2, so he is off to a rousing start in his career. The Bears are climbing to the top of the dysfunctional franchise heap at a steady pace.

  2. This has all the ear markings of a rumor started by the underhanded, bottom feeding barney Lokis who are looking to shift the focus off them of being the joke of the division for being the first team in league history to twice start a season 5-0 and miss the playoffs.

  3. If word had gotten out that the Bears were planning to move from No. 3 to No. 2 to get Trubisky, the Browns may have launched a late effort to squeeze Chicago into coming all the way to No. 1 to get him.

    …………………………………………………………..

    So what? That doesn’t excuse Chicago’s stupidity for making the move.

    1. No one – I mean NO ONE was going up to 1 to get MT.
    2. San Fran was NOT going QB at that point. No one thought they were.
    3. Chicago could have stayed pat, taken MT and used those other picks to build around their new QB. They didn’t. Because they’re the Bears.

    No one was moving to 2 ahead of Chi. because if they were willing to move that far to get MT, they’d have moved up farther than 10 to get the next best QB. No one had MT rates so awesome that you’d move up to 2 for him but not move anywhere else for someone else. QB’s were rather even in this draft.

    You can do all the mental gymnastics you want about who may or may not have done what – but they’re wrong. Chicago got duped, they made a BAD choice. Not in MT but in the trade to get him. No one was going up to 1 or 2 – not for a 13 start QB who lost to Duke.

  4. If Fox wasn’t in the dark and was on board with not only trading up unnecessarily but taking Trubisky, then he’s done after this year.

  5. The Bears would have been better off picking Kizer in the later rounds. MT isn’t worth the 2nd pick in this draft.

  6. Pace, I’ve always been behind you, despite criticizing you for the wrong choice of Kevin White (wrong for several reasons, and I have been proven right, and don’t tell you wait three years before deciding if a player is a bust…) and I do think you are a smart and competent guy. But, you lost me these last two days. Just like your predecessor, you wanted to show us how smarter you are than us, and this is going to backfire. Even if Trubisky is the second coming of Peyton (doubtful, and I think the guy has already shown a third-grader brain in his interviews, which does not bode well), you destined him for doom by sacrificing so much value to get him. If a talent like Luck has been struggling due to the lack of a decent (not great, decent) supporting cast, guess what can happen to Trubisky. Oh, well, he can still for a year or two, together with your other brilliant second round project that you drafted, and tossing the ball to your 7th overall pick bust from two years ago on the sidelines.

  7. teal379 says:
    Apr 29, 2017 8:02 AM
    If word had gotten out that the Bears were planning to move from No. 3 to No. 2 to get Trubisky, the Browns may have launched a late effort to squeeze Chicago into coming all the way to No. 1 to get him.

    …………………………………………………………..

    So what? That doesn’t excuse Chicago’s stupidity for making the move.

    1. No one – I mean NO ONE was going up to 1 to get MT.
    2. San Fran was NOT going QB at that point. No one thought they were.
    3. Chicago could have stayed pat, taken MT and used those other picks to build around their new QB. They didn’t. Because they’re the Bears.

    The Browns wanted Trubisky and owned the 1 and 12 picks. SF didn’t want Trubisky—everybody knows this—but could have traded the 2 to anyone, including the Browns, Chiefs, or anyone wanting a QB. It comes down to the fact that there was only one way to remove all doubt about getting Trubisky, and that was doing the necessary to get the 2 pick. I’m sure Pace would tell you, it MAY not have been a necessary trade, but there was no way to know. The Bears saw Aaron Donald stolen from them in 2014, and almost lost Leonard Floyd last year. If you really like a player, then you do what you have to to make sure you get him. Remove all doubt. In the end they have a net loss of one draft pick, a third rounder—-third round picks are usually waiver wire talent.

  8. Guess nothing ever changes. Glad to see Mortenson back in the saddle, and kudos to him for his courage in dealing with cancer.

    But he’s up to his old tricks again: reporting unsubstantiated and extremely erroneous (not to mention just plain silly or ridiculous) information as facts.

  9. Pace has put all his marbles on MT. Glannon now at 15 mill for one year and all those lost choices in the draft to move 1 space just means another 2 mediocre years for the Bears as they work Glannon and/or try and develop MT. With so many other holes to fill a serious error. What Fox knew or will admit to knowing is not very relevant now.

    At some point it will be up to Bears fans to get the team sold to more knowledge owners by just not showing up at the Field.

  10. It is irrelevant that the Niners weren’t picking Trubisky. Cleveland and Houston made offers for the pick. Cleveland traded away the 12th when they lost out on Trubisky. The Bears gave a lot but wouldn’t have gotten him at #3. It us too early to say if it is a bad move.

    The Bears have the worst QB history of any franchise in the NFL. History depicts that over 80% of franchise QB’s are drafted in the top 7 picks of the draft. Trubisky was the best QB prospect in the draft.

    The Bears haven’t drafted a QB in the top 10 since Jim McMahon. The only QB’s drafted in the 1st round since then have been Cade McNown (12), Jim Harbaugh (26) and Rex Grossman (22).

    I give Pace credit for going all out on attempting to get a legitimate franchise QB by signing Glennon and drafting Trubisky.

    It is too early for condemning him and the moves.

    The TE, Sheehan is supposed to be big and athletic. They could us a reliable TE that has been compared to Gronkowski and Witten.

    Jackson would have been a second round pick if he didn’t break his leg last season. He is a solid safety and punt returner. Both are needed.

    Drafting Tarik Cohen was a surprise although he has game breaking ability as a third down back and can also return kickoffs. In the open field, he is tough to catch and bring down. He is compared to Darren Sproles. It looks like KaDeem Carey may be released after this draft pick and the signing of Cunningham.

    The last pick was an OG from a small school that supposedly had a decent draft grade. They definitely can use the help on the OL.

    The question remains about CB and DE. The three free agent CB signings and release of Porter shows that Pace believes they have enough at the position. Is Unrein or Bullard the answer at DE? It may be enough and hopefully they have at least one UFA DE to bring into compete.

    Let them play before making final judgments.

  11. The 2017 Chicago Bears draft is detrimental to the organization. The argument of trading your 2017 3rd & 4th and your 2018 3rd pick to get your guy is not sound or reasonable when your guy has 13 college starts, when 8 & 5 with losses to Georgia, Virginia Tech, Duke, North Carolina State and Stanford and the year before his team went 11-1 under QB Williams. The argument that you need to do what you have to do to get your guy is not sound or reasonable when you can stay at number 3 and possible get your guy but if not you could have picked Deshaun Watson or Patrick Mahomes.

    Ted Phillips should not have let this happen. Mr. Phillips should have taken a look at Mr. Pace’s 3rd and 4th round picks of Jonathan Bullard, Nick Kwiatkoski, Deon Bush, Deiondre’ Hall, Hroniss Grasu and Jeremy Langford and came to the conclusion that Mr. Pace is at best a mediocre GM. Now the Bears’ organization has the most bizarre draft in their history with no progress of rebuilding a champion team.

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