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Bills fire entire scouting staff along with Doug Whaley

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The Bills announced that General Manager Doug Whaley has been fired early on Sunday and they confirmed more departures later in the day.

Owner Terry Pegula said that the team has also cleared out their pro and amateur scouting departments as they shift directions on the personnel side of the organization. That housecleaning includes personnel heads Jim Monos and Kelvin Fisher, but Pegula says that a decision on vice president of football administration Jim Overdorf, who has a big role in contracts, will rest with the next General Manager.

Pegula said that the team made the decision to fire Whaley and the others after he and wife Kim “ran our process” and they made the moves now because the scouting year came to an end with the draft. He also said that Whaley ran the draft, which runs counter to the perception of many that coach Sean McDermott was pulling the strings and is a bit odd given the decision they made about Whaley’s future with the organization.

Whaley took over as Buffalo’s G.M. in 2013 before the Pegulas bought the team so this will be their first hire for the position.

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  1. clownfoodpoop says: Apr 30, 2017 11:30 AM

    The goodwill the Pegula’s had garnered in Buffalo, by keeping the franchise in the city, is quickly running out. It is already shaping up to be another lost season for the Bills. I had always thought trying to get Coughlin up there to run things for them would have been the best bet, so who is out there now?

  2. bigearl61 says: Apr 30, 2017 11:36 AM

    Wonder if 37 year old man showed up to Buffalo could he get a contract? Since they have no idea what they are doing!

  3. ninerboi2 says: Apr 30, 2017 11:36 AM

    So I take it they didn’t like their draft haul

  4. 667s650w says: Apr 30, 2017 11:37 AM

    What a train wreck. McDermott thinks he ran the draft, Pegula thinks Whaley ran it…

    The owner and coach are clearly not on the same page but what is new with this organization? Pegula is channeling his inner Al Davis. And not the winning years Davis..

  5. motsuret06 says: Apr 30, 2017 11:37 AM

    Goodbye.

  6. Kingmj4891 says: Apr 30, 2017 11:44 AM

    clownfoodpoop says:
    Apr 30, 2017 11:30 AM
    The goodwill the Pegula’s had garnered in Buffalo, by keeping the franchise in the city, is quickly running out. It is already shaping up to be another lost season for the Bills. I had always thought trying to get Coughlin up there to run things for them would have been the best bet, so who is out there now?

    _____________

    Bills are doing just fine after canning Whaley andRex.

  7. belichickdominatedjoemontana says: Apr 30, 2017 11:45 AM

    I feel bad for Bills fans.

    Buffalo has turned into the Triple A affiliate of the New England Patriots.

    This owner stated 2 years ago she hired Rex to beat the Patriots.

    Rex beats them a few times (including one of the only 2 Patriots lossesnall last season). Yet, they fire Rex.

    I’m not a Rex fan and I wouldn’t have hired him in the first place to run my team.

    But the owners decisions continues to make no sense whatsoever. Time to sell.

  8. descendency says: Apr 30, 2017 11:45 AM

    They had a good draft… and they fire everyone? Do they want to lose?

  9. uglydingo says: Apr 30, 2017 11:49 AM

    So much for continuity. It would be pretty ironic if the Bills end up having some success with the players they just drafted.

  10. joel418 says: Apr 30, 2017 11:49 AM

    Wow. I’m guessing the owners didn’t care for their draft.

  11. thetooloftools says: Apr 30, 2017 11:53 AM

    They are wealthy for a reason. Because they are smart.
    It’s not like they inherited the team and are moving it to another city. The Bills will be fine with these owners but the head coach better get on the pole and dance.

  12. maxkingpin says: Apr 30, 2017 11:57 AM

    The Pegulas realized their mistake in keeping Whaley. Whaley is the classic “Peter Principle” result. He did well as a head scout. Should have left him there.
    They also did the smart thing in keeping him through this draft for some level of continuity.
    There is a long way to get back to the top but this is a good step to take.

  13. thatneuneu says: Apr 30, 2017 12:01 PM

    They used the Panthers scouting report and recommendations. Brandon Beane assistant GM for the Panthers will be rewarded for this.

  14. billsbackto81 says: Apr 30, 2017 12:02 PM

    For all who think Whaley had anything to do with draft you obviously don’t pay attention. The players chosen and the methodology used in this draft have McDermott written all over it. Accumulating valuable draft picks instead of giving them away. Choosing high character players with intelligence instead of arrest records. Versatile players that fit current needs instead of selling the farm to hopefully improve a bust pick the prior season. Whether this process develops into a winning formula is yet TBD, but I am optimistic of the progress and the coach leading the charge.

  15. aliveguy24 says: Apr 30, 2017 12:08 PM

    Ringing endorsement of the draft class

  16. therealraider says: Apr 30, 2017 12:09 PM

    Going all in on a guy who has yet to wear the headset once. Bold strategy, lets see how it works out.

  17. censoredagain says: Apr 30, 2017 12:13 PM

    FIre your GM and entire scouting dept the day after the draft?

    Never in my life have I heard of such idiocy. Why not fire them the day after the regular season ended if you weren’t happy with them? Why let them scout the 2017 draft and make the picks for your team if you aren’t happy with their job performance?

    This leaves zero doubt that the Bills are right up there with the Browns for being one of most dysfunctional teams in the NFL

  18. ralphwilsonisrich says: Apr 30, 2017 12:21 PM

    Pegula did not hire Whaley folks. He was hired by the prior ownership. Good move here. You fire them now not before the draft.

  19. corkspop says: Apr 30, 2017 12:21 PM

    I’m pretty sure that Whaley DIDN’T run this year’s draft. Giving him credit is the same as “Good luck. Not sure how we’ll get by without you. Now hurry up and clean out your desk.”

  20. BigBagOfMoney says: Apr 30, 2017 12:25 PM

    Wow. The Patriots are being stripped of their entire minor league system.

  21. joma1969 says: Apr 30, 2017 12:29 PM

    “Accumulating valuable draft picks instead of giving them away”

    Apparently you missed them trading up twice in the second round…

  22. tonebones says: Apr 30, 2017 12:32 PM

    It sounds crazy to fire all your scouts, and these owners probably don’t deserve the benefit of the doubt. But it’s possible that the new GM will put together a new staff that includes hiring back some of these scouts. It actually makes it easier on the new GM to not have to come in and start firing people right off the bat. Some of the scouts probably already have jobs lined up, because they saw the handwriting on the wall. People might think that the best scouts have already found other jobs, but we all know scouts don’t usually get hired based on what they know, it’s who they know. That’s just the way it works. The Bills are still just a QB away. Hopefully they hire someone who can evaluate QBs. I’m not holding my breath waiting for that to happen.

  23. popolover1 says: Apr 30, 2017 12:36 PM

    If owners keep hiring young GMS, the young GMs will show their lack of knowledge ….. it is all in due time….. make sure that your GM is a football guy and over 50 and your headed in the right direction.

  24. whispersd says: Apr 30, 2017 12:37 PM

    “They are wealthy for a reason. Because they are smart.”

    Somewhere Dan Snyder is nodding in approval while the rest of the DC area cringes.

  25. harrisonhits2 says: Apr 30, 2017 12:43 PM

    “Never in my life have I heard of such idiocy. Why not fire them the day after the regular season ended if you weren’t happy with them?”

    Because there’s not enough time to get an entire new scouting department built and still have time to do proper draft preparations before the draft if you fire them the day after the regular season.

    If you truly want to fire an entire scouting department of people, better to do so now so there’s time to build the new group and they have time to do a good job before the 2018 draft.

  26. orangeraider says: Apr 30, 2017 12:43 PM

    As dysfunctional as the Browns. Lake Erie is having a bad effect on these two franchises.
    What a complete joke.

  27. bearssuck says: Apr 30, 2017 12:44 PM

    The Bills are a 3rd tier NFL organization. Have been for years.

  28. styro1 says: Apr 30, 2017 12:49 PM

    Pegula said Whaley ran the draft while the coach thinks he did? This sounds like when Ryan got fired and Whaley didn’t know about it.

    Terry Pegula also said he and his wife “ran our process”. HaHaHa!

  29. mclennon99 says: Apr 30, 2017 12:49 PM

    Trust me…the hiring of McDermott and firing of Whaley are the two greatest moves this team has made in 20 years.

    McDermott will have Buffalo in the playoffs in 2018.

  30. imodan says: Apr 30, 2017 12:53 PM

    Mike Mayock is going to be a GM. Maybe not in Buffalo but this will happen. File this under bold predictions. 😉

  31. rabidbillsfan says: Apr 30, 2017 12:59 PM

    Ugh, seems I was to harsh and my last comment didn’t make it through.

    Why would you fire your scouting dept. at the end of the regular season? Honestly, why? You wouldn’t, because it doesn’t make sense. If you think the bulk of scouting work is done after the regular season ends, you are sorely misinformed. Most of these guys drafted by the 32 teams have been scouted for the last 2-3 seasons, with all of the heavy lifting being done during the college season. Very little has to do with the combine and prodays. You determine who to watch at those events by what you e gathered in the ~8 months prior. Firing the staff in January is just moronic. You’d have to cobble together scouts and create a draft board from 4 months of knowledge instead of the years worth of insight the previous regime had. It just doesn’t make sense. Just do yourselves a favor, stop complaining about the timing because you clearly don’t understand football OPs.

  32. abninf says: Apr 30, 2017 1:10 PM

    thetooloftools says:

    The Bills will be fine with these owners but the head coach better get on the pole and dance.
    ==================================

    You have to have an owner who knows how to evaluate head coaches.

  33. defscottyb says: Apr 30, 2017 1:12 PM

    Who cares the Bills suck.

  34. aldavisisthenfl says: Apr 30, 2017 1:23 PM

    “They are wealthy for a reason. Because they are smart.
    It’s not like they inherited the team and are moving it to another city. The Bills will be fine with these owners but the head coach better get on the pole and dance.”

    oh yeah, take a look at the Buffalo Sabres

  35. myballsitch says: Apr 30, 2017 1:36 PM

    This franchise is clueless, turning into the Browns

  36. kuhlest says: Apr 30, 2017 1:38 PM

    I am putting in for the head of scouting

  37. burtmustin says: Apr 30, 2017 1:39 PM

    Thankfully, Ryan Grigson is available . They should hire him so he can sign Jay Cutler.

  38. ibillwt says: Apr 30, 2017 1:41 PM

    Pats are going to miss Whaley.

  39. patriots123456 says: Apr 30, 2017 1:52 PM

    They have made so many changes it might take more than a year to run smoothly..

  40. styro1 says: Apr 30, 2017 1:59 PM

    I just hope whoever the Bills hire as a GM they’ll still allow the Pats to steal one of their UFA’s once a year b/c of where the Bills tag them.
    Which is much lower, way lower, than they’re worth!

    Look for Shady to get hurt this year b/c the Bills allowed the best backup RB in the league to walk over $900k.
    Just as last year the Bills WR corp was decimated by injuries b/c they allowed Hogan to walk. The same Hogan that had 9 receptions for 180 yards in the AFCCG for the Pats and 17 rec, 332 yards & 2 TD’s in the playoffs.
    Thank you Doug Whaley & Terry Pegula!

  41. abqhawk says: Apr 30, 2017 2:03 PM

    Break out the popcorn & soda, this may get really interesting!

  42. babygaga19 says: Apr 30, 2017 2:05 PM

    As previously stated, the Bills love to fire, hire, and fire again. Always looking for the quick fix. It’s the Bills Way!

  43. vikingdoode says: Apr 30, 2017 2:10 PM

    in a way Spielman could be President and GM… I wouldnt be so sad but he at least try real hard to get the team better

  44. fordmandalay says: Apr 30, 2017 2:12 PM

    Re-arranging the deck chairs on the Titanic.

  45. VenerableAxiom says: Apr 30, 2017 2:22 PM

    mclennon99 says:
    Apr 30, 2017 12:49 PM
    Trust me…the hiring of McDermott and firing of Whaley are the two greatest moves this team has made in 20 years.

    McDermott will have Buffalo in the playoffs in 2018.
    ——
    Gase did it in year one while sweeping the bills, and he and belicheck are still in the division. McDermott has yet to coach his first game. Just sayin’.

  46. platinumraider32 says: Apr 30, 2017 2:39 PM

    You know things are dire when a whole department is cleared the day after the draft.

  47. tothefellowshipofthemiserable says: Apr 30, 2017 3:05 PM

    Must of been on Belichick’s payroll

  48. vancouversportsbro says: Apr 30, 2017 3:20 PM

    There is something seriously wrong with how Pegula is as an owner. He fired everyone on the Sabres too even though rebuilds in hockey don’t last one season.

  49. gah05 says: Apr 30, 2017 3:27 PM

    Pegula should have done this firing back when he bought the team.

  50. exinsidetrader says: Apr 30, 2017 3:27 PM

    Whaley was a good judge of talent, but he did not have the abilities to be a General MANAGER (It’s a different skill set).

    This team needs someone with executive experience to put things in order otherwise the Bills will be the Pats Farm Team for the foreseeable future. The fans of Buffalo deserve better.

  51. billsbackto81 says: Apr 30, 2017 3:55 PM

    joma1969 says:
    Apr 30, 2017 12:29 PM
    “Accumulating valuable draft picks instead of giving them away”

    Apparently you missed them trading up twice in the second round…
    ——————————:
    Apparently you missed where I said “Valuable”. Trading later round picks for players that fit a need is a lot different than trading future 1st rounders away when your team has many needs.

  52. valentino8100 says: Apr 30, 2017 4:09 PM

    thetooloftools says:
    Apr 30, 2017 11:53 AM

    They are wealthy for a reason. Because they are smart.

    —————————————-

    That reason might hold if these owners approached their franchises in the same manner as they do their other holdings. Sadly, many of them like to tinker with their shiny new toys instead of hiring and empowering someone who knows the business far better than they do, and leaving them to it.

  53. PFT loves the Steelers says: Apr 30, 2017 4:26 PM

    Odd timing for such a massive overhaul. What the heck is going on in Buffalo? Were these guys involved in this draft? If not, why wait until right after the draft to fire them? Was it to keep these guys from leaking draft strategy to other teams?

  54. bostonpatriots1stfan says: Apr 30, 2017 6:14 PM

    What a train wreck this organization is.

    As a Patriots fan since 1960, I feel the Bills fans pain.

  55. razzlejag says: Apr 30, 2017 7:00 PM

    I agree with you, bostonpatriots1stfan, it’s more fun when everyone in the AFC is relevant and, therefore, hateable. The Bills fans deserve better, they have always supported the team..

  56. absolutevisuals says: Apr 30, 2017 7:12 PM

    Yup. My criticism was correct, they’re running the Bills like the Buffalo Sabres.

    Good luck fans, because the team may didn’t move but neither did the dysfunction.

  57. browns2014man says: Apr 30, 2017 8:05 PM

    Hahahahhaha. Everyone laughs at the Browns. At least they seem to have some sort of plan. Crap-polo is mired in the same ole same ole. Bye Buffalo. Hello Toronto. Hahahahhahahah.

  58. buffalobraves says: Apr 30, 2017 8:16 PM

    bostonpatriots1stfan says:
    Apr 30, 2017 6:14 PM
    What a train wreck this organization is.

    As a Patriots fan since 1960, I feel the Bills fans pain.

    ====================================

    Thanks BP1stfan – the Buffalo folk are sensing something different in McDermott, we’ll see – some of us go back to Parilli, Nance, Buoniconti, and even Gino Capelletti….great Pats teams back in the 60’s.

  59. rhughsirius says: Apr 30, 2017 9:19 PM

    Whaley be whalin’ on the Bills owner’s head.

  60. sodoyoufeelluckypunk says: Apr 30, 2017 10:27 PM

    The Bills love to fire, hire, and fire again. Always looking for the quick fix. Goooooooo Jillllllllllllls!

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