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Judge erases Aaron Hernandez’s murder conviction

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Former Patriots tight end Aaron Hernandez died a convicted murderer with pending appeal rights. Officially, he’s no longer a convicted murderer.

Via Dan Wetzel of Yahoo! Sports, Judge Susan Garsh has agreed to erase Hernandez’s conviction for the shooting death of Odin Lloyd because Hernandez died while the appeal was still pending. The ruling arises from a Massachusetts law that resets the case to its inception if the defendant dies before the case concludes. Prosecutors had argued that erasing the conviction would reward Hernandez for taking his own life.

The outcome could make it impossible for the Patriots to deny further payment of the signing bonus that Hernandez earned in 2012, and likewise to reclaim all money he earned under the contract extension. Given the acquittal for the double murder that came five days before his death and the expungement of the murder conviction, Hernandez in the eyes of the law is not guilty of murder.

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  1. enigma4370 says: May 9, 2017 11:47 AM

    Managed another crime from the grave.
    A-hole.

  2. Ferdinand says: May 9, 2017 11:47 AM

    Every article/bio ever written about him from now on will include the conviction overturned on technicality because he wasn’t man enough to take his fairly received punishment.

  3. bkostela says: May 9, 2017 11:47 AM

    What a POS.

    Hernandez was scum too.

  4. davehamgood says: May 9, 2017 11:48 AM

    And the stomach turns.

  5. btv77 says: May 9, 2017 11:49 AM

    There is no conspiracy here people. I think it’s now obvious that his suicide was his last and only chance to take care of his family.

  6. v2787 says: May 9, 2017 11:50 AM

    What a sordid, ugly mess for everyone concerned, and what an unnecessary waste of a human life that had so much potential. It’s just sad all the way around.

  7. ipdaily69 says: May 9, 2017 11:51 AM

    Liberal Massachusetts in all its glory.

  8. QB Film Room says: May 9, 2017 11:52 AM

    All over $! WOW

  9. nepatriot1 says: May 9, 2017 11:53 AM

    Great American justice system. What an embarrassment.

  10. dcpatfan says: May 9, 2017 11:54 AM

    …there is but one judge

  11. patfic5 says: May 9, 2017 11:54 AM

    Sure the Pounceys are rejoicing.

  12. agbnewfoundlaw says: May 9, 2017 11:54 AM

    Not that I’m a fan, but maybe look at it like this…

    If he knew that was a possibility he did it for his daughter and fiancee’. His daughter at least would now receive the signing bonus from the Patriots.

  13. kayes says: May 9, 2017 11:55 AM

    Hernandez also couldn’t have killed multiple people and him and his family would be living a very good life right now. I hope they thoroughly study his brain. More I read about him, the more I think he was severely mentally ill. Sane people arent this dumb.

  14. ajgreenhof says: May 9, 2017 11:55 AM

    Mark my words this will be a movie someday.

    People love glorifying this kind of stuff and then wonder why it happens again.

  15. learysdisciples says: May 9, 2017 11:55 AM

    A true role model.

  16. codythao35 says: May 9, 2017 11:55 AM

    He may get away from the flesh but his spirit still will be tortured by Satan, who deceived him to kill himself.

  17. daysend564 says: May 9, 2017 11:55 AM

    Hooray for liberal judges?

  18. seatownballers says: May 9, 2017 11:56 AM

    Three ugliest fight is coming over his estate.

    Can his victims family sue a dead man?
    How can any of his crimes be proven in a civil court?

  19. sobceo says: May 9, 2017 11:56 AM

    They do it for all cases like his in that state.. Just because he is a HIGH PROFILE person why would they treat his case any different? How fare would that be! Just saying!

  20. dukeford56 says: May 9, 2017 11:56 AM

    A stupid, archaic law. Stupid, stupid, stupid.

  21. codythao35 says: May 9, 2017 11:56 AM

    His spirit will be tortue by Satan for eternity

  22. sirjoeshmoe2015 says: May 9, 2017 11:57 AM

    What a frick’n JOKE!

  23. gauchosporlife says: May 9, 2017 11:58 AM

    Not fair for society, not fair for the victims.

  24. contra74 says: May 9, 2017 11:58 AM

    So does this mean his lawyer can run around claiming he got a victory here?

  25. enigma4370 says: May 9, 2017 11:58 AM

    “There is no conspiracy here people. I think it’s now obvious that his suicide was his last and only chance to take care of his family.”

    Too bad the lawyers will get most of it before his 4 year old has a chance.
    (no offense Florio)

  26. vicksdawgpound says: May 9, 2017 11:58 AM

    So his wife will end up with his signing bonus and all other money owed by the Patriots when clearly she should have been guilty as well for hiding the murder weapon. She is no saint and our legal system is just unbelievable for anyone with a little money.

  27. codythao35 says: May 9, 2017 11:58 AM

    He will now meet with Odin in hel.

  28. patsfan1960 says: May 9, 2017 12:00 PM

    Only in America where suicide takes away a murder conviction, think of how absurd that is. The man was a scumbag and now he gets rewarded for it…Very sad indeed

  29. weepingjebus says: May 9, 2017 12:00 PM

    I hope the lawyer that told him this might work and basically encouraged him to kill himself also warned him that the Patriots cut him before he was even charged let alone convicted, and also did not pursue numerous claims against him including reputational damages. A subsequent annulment of the conviction changes none of these facts or how they bore on his contract, and he may well have offed himself just so his estate can get dribbled up and down the court by the Patriots’ exceptionally terrifying lawyers. He never was very bright.

  30. nyneal says: May 9, 2017 12:00 PM

    What a joke!! The dirt bag was a murderer and this judge can’t change that no matter what she does. I wonder how she’d have felt had it been one her relatives that Hernandez killed.
    I’m telling you –this country is getting nuttier and nuttier with stuff like this.
    The good news is, the s.o.b. is still dead and these morons haven’t been able to change that, yet.

  31. larryboodry says: May 9, 2017 12:01 PM

    Coward’s way out, but if it helps his innocent family, at least there’s that.

  32. noose18 says: May 9, 2017 12:02 PM

    Oddly this may be the least selfish thing Hernandez did. I hope the money goes into a trust for his daughter, and pays for her college education. Hopefully she can outrun the stigma of being his daughter.

  33. snh7997 says: May 9, 2017 12:02 PM

    Who are the winners and losers financially when it comes to the liquidation of his estate???

  34. peytonwantsaflag says: May 9, 2017 12:02 PM

    There is no conspiracy here people. I think it’s now obvious that his suicide was his last and only chance to take care of his family.

    ————————————

    awe, you make it sound so noble. The guy was murdering scum who’s family should not benefit from any money earned by him- legal or not. Every dime needs to go to the family of the victim.

  35. burtmustin says: May 9, 2017 12:04 PM

    A stupid medieval law in Massachusetts that hurts the family of Odin Lloyd won’t erase the truth that Aaron Hernandez was a savage killer.

  36. pats777 says: May 9, 2017 12:05 PM

    There are a lot of stupid laws in this country but this one might take the top podium, SMH.

  37. tommikula says: May 9, 2017 12:06 PM

    So tax payers paid the judge and lawyers for nothing in the end? And the murderer’s beneficiaries will get paid for obligations he contractually did not fulfill? American justice system at its finest.

  38. cafetero1075 says: May 9, 2017 12:06 PM

    I doubt his family gets anything.

  39. stillperfect says: May 9, 2017 12:07 PM

    patfic5 says:
    May 9, 2017 11:54 AM

    Sure the Pounceys are rejoicing.
    *****************************************
    He beat the system just like the Pats do. I guess he learned something while playing for them.

  40. patslaya says: May 9, 2017 12:07 PM

    So I guess the feelings of he families of the murder victims don’t matter. All that matters is that the dead guy doesn’t have to be dead with a murder conviction. Sounds about right.

  41. lehmannriley says: May 9, 2017 12:08 PM

    Wow. I’m going to ignore the con he just pulled on the Pats for millions of dollars and focus on Odin Lloyd’s family. I understand the intent of the law, but come on. He was convicted, a group of jurors had no doubt that he killed another human being. But, since he appealed, then suddenly there is some doubt? This is just not right, and I don’t know how this could be done to the Lloyd family.

  42. pastabelly says: May 9, 2017 12:09 PM

    Well, even though there is not much that can be done about Hernandez, the Commonwealth should consider changing this ridiculous law.

  43. gisellichek says: May 9, 2017 12:10 PM

    As a taxpayer/voter in the Commonwealth, this law needs to be revised by the legislature so POS’s like AH don’t get to suicide themselves out of murder convictions… a travesty.

  44. factschecker says: May 9, 2017 12:11 PM

    Technically he murdered himself. So he’s still a murderer.

    Seems like the real victims family are the people that are getting wronged in all of this. They don’t even get the satisfaction of a conviction?

    Seems logic that murdering yourself should only bolster the murder accusation? His suicide should been seen as the guilty nail into his guilty coffin.

  45. bowenfootdoc2013 says: May 9, 2017 12:11 PM

    How much does the judge get for the reversal???

  46. waynefontesismyfather says: May 9, 2017 12:11 PM

    Why should his “female” get a dime, THEY WEREN’T MARRIED. Just another deadbeat father willing to pull the trigger on having a kid but not pulling the trigger in marrying the woman. (gun puns, sorry)

    All the money should go to the daughter. The “fiancee” should get a coupon for a free Big Mac and small fry and that is it. She can pay for her own Pepsi.

  47. thelastwordyaheard says: May 9, 2017 12:12 PM

    “Prosecutors had argued that erasing the conviction would reward Hernandez for taking his own life”

    ———-//——–

    it also rewards the taxpayers who have to foot the bill for decades of keeping this dirtbag incarcerated ..incentivizing suicide in these types of scenarios isn’t the worst thing in the world

  48. tedmurph says: May 9, 2017 12:12 PM

    He may be not guilty in the eyes of the law(that’s the LAW, nothing to do with liberal judges, a common right wing rant), but he still may have violated the terms of his contract from the Patriots point of view, just by being arrested and charged with 3 murders, gun chgs, etc. Still, if I’m the Pats, I try to reach a settlement for the sake of the child. Even if his estate gets money from the Pats, I would think(not a lawyer) OLloyd’s family could still come after the money in a civil suit for wrongful death. The Goldman’s won a case like that after OJ was found NG. They didn’t get much, but they won.

  49. bassplucker says: May 9, 2017 12:14 PM

    Disgraceful.

  50. averagepete says: May 9, 2017 12:15 PM

    Goodell will force payment, and dock the Patriots a 2nd rounder for not paying a convicted killer.

  51. thegreatgabbert says: May 9, 2017 12:16 PM

    Hernandez never backed down an inch. He never flinched, or compromised. That’s what I’ll remember.

  52. Getoffmylawn! says: May 9, 2017 12:17 PM

    So he’s just a murderer then. Not a convicted murderer. Got it.

  53. bordner says: May 9, 2017 12:18 PM

    This LOSER, through a purely selfish action, may actually have done something good here. Maybe this will get Massachusetts to realize what a stupid law they have and help get rid of it.

  54. harrisonhits2 says: May 9, 2017 12:18 PM

    “Liberal Massachusetts in all its glory.
    Hooray for liberal judges”

    This has nothing to do with being liberal or conservative. It an archaic law from the 1700s(?) that has never been taken off the books as many other archaic laws have never been taken off the books.

    The judge had no choice but to enforce it since it exists.

    If you do a search for things like “crazy laws still on the books” you’ll find a whole collection of them in every state of the union.

  55. Before you hate, just make sure you refer to him as '2015 PRO BOWL MVP' Matthew Stafford says: May 9, 2017 12:20 PM

    How is this the law in that state, and how was he able to do that while in a jail cell? Lots of evaluation for changes should be made here

  56. duffelbagsports says: May 9, 2017 12:21 PM

    This is a common law rule that has been used in numerous cases. Because the spotlight is shining on this one case where it seems to be an unjust application doesn’t mean it didn’t work in other cases.

    Don’t make this about Aaron Hernandez there was no hue and cry when it was applied before.

    What about people who HAVE been acquitted on appeal or released when DNA or prosecutorial misconduct gets them out. If they died before their appeals were exhausted that would have been wrong. This rule protects the potentially innocent as well as the guilty.

  57. indytom87 says: May 9, 2017 12:21 PM

    So the Marathon bombers should just take their own lives? Who needs juries!

  58. mvp43 says: May 9, 2017 12:24 PM

    So, the guy he killed is no longer dead?

  59. blacknole08 says: May 9, 2017 12:25 PM

    If Im the Pats, Im definitely challenging this. Hernandez didnt exactly earn a penny from that new contract. And if you are innocent until proven guilty before the trial, you should be guilty until proven innocent during the appeals process. Makes sense to me. Dude still guilty, overturning his conviction wont bring Odin Lloyd back SMH

  60. dsigrey says: May 9, 2017 12:27 PM

    It’s not like he missed his opportunity to defend his appeal because of someone else’s actions, he missed it because of his own actions. Therefor because of his actions his appeal should be dropped, not his conviction.

  61. TheDPR says: May 9, 2017 12:27 PM

    I don’t see how this hurts the victims’ families. If the Patriots are forced to pay Hernandez’s estate, they have a bigger pile of money his victims can sue for. The Browns and Goldmans successfully sued OJ and now the Lloyds and Abreus and Furtados can sue Hernandez’s estate. Without this, that well is dry.

  62. tedmurph says: May 9, 2017 12:28 PM

    I have no sympathy for Hernandez and I believe he was guilty. But, I disagree the Abatement Law, which many states, as well as the Federal Gov’t still have on the books is unfair or archaic. Plenty of convictions are overturned on appeal. It’s an essential part of the Legal System and has to be protected. You can’t just arbitrarily let a conviction stand without the opportunity for the process to play out. Even if your emotions tell you he was guilty.

  63. kissbillsrings says: May 9, 2017 12:28 PM

    Now maybe he can play for…..uhhmmm, never mind….

  64. PFT is Lemmy's beach says: May 9, 2017 12:29 PM

    Yes, Hernandez was a dirtbag. This goes beyond him.

    But aren’t the good ol’ boys out in force today. Judges obeying the letter of the law? Outrageous!

    Just step back for a moment and consider that there have been people wrongfully convicted then proven innocent (which flies in the face of our jurisprudence system) later.

    Cops lie and plant evidence. Juries fall victim to their emotions rather than do their job and determine guilt or innocence solely on evidence.

    Appeals are a legitimate option in our society. To deny appeal would be sending us back the Inquisition. If this bothers some folks there are a few good old fashioned countries you can relocate to out there that don’t bother with all this trial nonsense. Just hope you like Middle Eastern or Korean food.

  65. peytonwantsaflag says: May 9, 2017 12:29 PM

    of course – and I’m know lawyer – I would think even though technically he’s not a murderer he did how quit and not fulfill his contract with the patriots.

  66. Lisa_the_Greek says: May 9, 2017 12:31 PM

    Does this mean that the Odin Lloyd case is reopened? Hard to see them solving that one now.

  67. alltee says: May 9, 2017 12:31 PM

    a convicted murdered gets away with stealing more money by committing another murder

    not sure why anyone needs to pay him anything, even as an innocent man he didnt show up to work which was a breach of his contract

  68. brwmstr says: May 9, 2017 12:31 PM

    defendants rights trump the rights of law abiding citizens….what a crazy world we live in

  69. irishjugalo says: May 9, 2017 12:33 PM

    I’d look into the lawyer for Hernandez’s death. Sounds like Aaron dying keeps money in his estate to pay for legal fees.

  70. PFT is Lemmy's beach says: May 9, 2017 12:33 PM

    factschecker says:
    May 9, 2017 12:11 PM
    Technically he murdered himself. So he’s still a murderer.

    Seems like the real victims family are the people that are getting wronged in all of this. They don’t even get the satisfaction of a conviction?

    Seems logic that murdering yourself should only bolster the murder accusation?

    You keep using that word logic. I do not think it means what you think it means.

    The law and our courts are not designed to provide satisfaction to victims. You’re thinking Old Testament.

  71. realfootballfan says: May 9, 2017 12:33 PM

    That’s what you call a loophole. Reading his last line of his suicide note that his wife was rich, it’s obvious that he was aware of this.

  72. kevpft says: May 9, 2017 12:34 PM

    This law is going to be changed, right, Massachusetts?

  73. moondog7 says: May 9, 2017 12:34 PM

    Can we find out if someone told him of this loophole in the system? If it was planned that is some next level stuff (very patriot-like).

    Feel terrible for the victims family. But at least his killer is gone now as well, albeit on his own terms.

    Makes you think how someone can value paper money over a human life. Is his daughter better off never being able to speak to her dad again just because she has a couple million now? Probably a void she will always be searching for. Such a tragic story with so many twists and turns.

  74. navyvandal says: May 9, 2017 12:34 PM

    There are many things about my state I hate. This is one of them. Bush league law that allows his daughter to get the money. Time for the families of the double homicide victims to file wrongful death lawsuits, if it’s possible. I’m glad my team severed all ties the moment he was arrested.

  75. dwoofer says: May 9, 2017 12:36 PM

    Now if the almighty judge can only erase the victim’s death.

  76. canedaddy says: May 9, 2017 12:36 PM

    I hope the Patriots (the organization and Aaron Hernandez’s wealthy teammates individually) show some class and donate money to his victims’ families.

  77. kevpft says: May 9, 2017 12:37 PM

    Here’s hoping that if money does get paid, they find a way for only his child – the only true innocent in this case – to get any of it, and no one else.

  78. mysportsrumors says: May 9, 2017 12:42 PM

    dont see how he can get all the money from the contract extension, all of the money wasnt guaranteed…. now his bonus and guaranteed money, well Patriots are going to have to pay up

  79. finnymcphin says: May 9, 2017 12:46 PM

    larryboodry says:
    May 9, 2017 12:01 PM
    Coward’s way out, but if it helps his innocent family, at least there’s that.
    ———————————

    Other than his daughter there are no innocent members of his family. His fiancee disposed of the weapon and others hid vehicles. The innocent families belonged to his victims.

    FWIW people abatement ab initio is not a ‘liberal state’ doctrine. It comes from English common law and exists in some form in most states except for those that have legislated out of existence in recognition of victim’s rights. For instance liberal Connecticut did away with it while conservative Louisiana maintains it. Like many laws that have their roots in protecting the individual from the abuses of the system it is now used to defeat it. It does seem perverse that any state would recognize it in the face of suicide.

  80. abninf says: May 9, 2017 12:48 PM

    I wonder if liberals or conservatives thought up that idiotic bleeding heart law. Hmm, let me guess.

  81. dlmcc1010 says: May 9, 2017 12:49 PM

    If it comes down to spending the rest of your life in a prison, or taking your own life in which case your young daughter may be able to recover your salary bonus, you can see how that decision would have been made.

    Im not excusing what Hernandez did hes still a murderer in my eyes

  82. intrafinesse says: May 9, 2017 12:49 PM

    The Patriots have to pay up, but at least he doesn’t get it, it goes to the family and hopefully the families of the murder victims.

  83. umassdebatingteam says: May 9, 2017 12:50 PM

    They should’ve written the verdict in pen instead of pencil.

  84. joetorontoeatsdic says: May 9, 2017 12:50 PM

    Time for Kraft to pay up

  85. intrafinesse says: May 9, 2017 12:50 PM

    kevpft says:
    May 9, 2017 12:37 PM
    Here’s hoping that if money does get paid, they find a way for only his child – the only true innocent in this case – to get any of it, and no one else.——
    ——————————————

    What about the families of the 3 men he murdered?
    I’d like to see them get that money.

  86. bird2urmother says: May 9, 2017 12:51 PM

    The way I see it is, he knew he was a screw up n now a deadbeat dad n he only had one way to try to make it up to his daughter n help secure her future, and he did just that. He chose to end his life just to help his little girl.

  87. sdchicken says: May 9, 2017 12:52 PM

    Words on paper don’t change the facts that he killed Mr. Loyd

  88. ipdaily69 says: May 9, 2017 12:52 PM

    Liberal Massachusetts has everything to do with the existence of this law. Laws can be changed but the voters and their representatives chose to keep this law and utilize this law at every opportunity.
    Murderers Matter in the Bay State.
    Victims…..not so much.

  89. abninf says: May 9, 2017 12:52 PM

    tedmurph says:

    He may be not guilty in the eyes of the law(that’s the LAW, nothing to do with liberal judges, a common right wing rant)
    ===================================

    It has to do with liberal lawmakers in that state.

  90. knew8411 says: May 9, 2017 12:53 PM

    Wow, what a messed up law that it is that allows a (once convicted) murderer to suddenly be innocent.
    So much for the work the judicial system put into the case of Mr. Odin.
    I suppose this stupid ruling also means that Hernandez’s camp can get out of any impending litigation in regards to a law suit against the deceased, for the killing of Mr. Odin.
    Talk about injustice.

  91. ctiggs says: May 9, 2017 12:53 PM

    I hope the Patriots (the organization and Aaron Hernandez’s wealthy teammates individually) show some class and donate money to his victims’ families.

    ———————————————————

    I agree just cut a check to the victims and his daughter( not wife/gf) and be done with it.

  92. RandyinRoxbury says: May 9, 2017 12:56 PM

    I wonder who will play AH in the upcoming movie?
    I’m thinking perhaps Vin Diesel?

  93. steelcurtainn says: May 9, 2017 12:57 PM

    It doesn’t get erased from gods eyes. Your burnt toast A.H. Don’t think they have gangs where your going.

  94. kemp13 says: May 9, 2017 12:59 PM

    canedaddy says:
    May 9, 2017 12:36 PM
    I hope the Patriots (the organization and Aaron Hernandez’s wealthy teammates individually) show some class and donate money to his victims’ families.

    Why? Did the Patriots organization have ANYTHING to do with the killings? If anybody needs to show class here it’s his family, who will be getting an undeserved windfall now.

  95. trollaikman8 says: May 9, 2017 1:00 PM

    Kraft got duped again!!!! That family is rich!
    lololol

  96. exinsidetrader says: May 9, 2017 1:04 PM

    He could always throw a great block.

  97. tedmurph says: May 9, 2017 1:04 PM

    It has ZERO to do with the liberal lawmakers in Massachusetts. Right wing fake facts. Abatement Ab Initio goes all the way back to English Common Law, and is designed to protect the most basic tenet of our legal system. Innocent until proven guilty. Nobody is proven guilty until the entire process plays out. Many states have tweaked this law in support of victims rights, but at this time it is the Law in Mass.

  98. iteabaggedurwife says: May 9, 2017 1:08 PM

    daysend564 says:

    May 9, 2017 11:55 AM

    Hooray for liberal judges?

    ————-

    I don’t know her political leanings but she was appointed by William Weld who, at the time, was the Republican Governor.

  99. truthprofessor says: May 9, 2017 1:08 PM

    He is still guilty of firearms charges. They were not under appeal and arguably the firearms conviction alone could void his Patriots contract, right Mike?

  100. cowpiesnotcowboys says: May 9, 2017 1:15 PM

    He learned from the Patriots how to win with an asterisk attached.

  101. bvolke says: May 9, 2017 1:17 PM

    A New England Patriot cheating the justice system from the grave. Makes sense.

  102. PFT is Lemmy's beach says: May 9, 2017 1:21 PM

    kevpft says:
    May 9, 2017 12:34 PM
    This law is going to be changed, right, Massachusetts?

    No, we think here as opposed to other places where people react without hesitation.

  103. duffelbagsports says: May 9, 2017 1:24 PM

    People get the facts. The Patriots owe him nothing they reached a contractual settlement in 2014. The estate now has a value of $0 with the exception of the house. If there were any proceeds available it’s not for his common law wife, who probably would be legally entitled, but for his infant daughter.

  104. manureman says: May 9, 2017 1:26 PM

    Way to “CHEAT” the system Aaron. THE PATRIOT WAY!!!

  105. revelation123 says: May 9, 2017 1:29 PM

    His family probably needs that money more than the Krafts do.

  106. uglydingo says: May 9, 2017 1:34 PM

    patfic5 says:
    May 9, 2017 11:54 AM
    Sure the Pounceys are rejoicing.
    >
    Aaron Hernandez’ actions are indefensible. This was a very sad end to a very sad life. There was no rejoicing by the Pouncey boys who buried a college buddy.

  107. cardinealsfan20 says: May 9, 2017 1:35 PM

    Ah, the delicious difficulty for the reactionary, law and order crowd. They constantly talk about wanting judges who apply the laws as written, but they don’t like it when this judge applies the clear language of this law. They claim allegiance to the Constitution, but decry a law older than the Constitution. Or they’re so uninformed that they think the law was passed by a modern day liberal Massachusetts legislature.

    Sorry about your Catch-22 there guys.

  108. jstamper3377 says: May 9, 2017 1:36 PM

    He beat the system just like the Pats do. I guess he learned something while playing for them.

    —————————————

    How in your heads are the Patriots if you take a situation where multiple people were murdered, lives ruined, and families destroyed,and turn it into an opportunity to take another childish cheap shot at the Patriots.

    Get some perspective.

  109. jonathankrobinson424 says: May 9, 2017 1:36 PM

    Go after the lawyer for assisted suicide…..NO WAY Aarron fiqured that law out on his own.

  110. buttfumbles says: May 9, 2017 1:37 PM

    Can you idiots stop saying liberal this liberal that

  111. todd6162 says: May 9, 2017 1:39 PM

    This is why I will never vote for the left

  112. ihavenoeyedeer says: May 9, 2017 1:40 PM

    This will make an interesting movie.

  113. PFT is Lemmy's beach says: May 9, 2017 1:47 PM

    buttfumbles says:
    May 9, 2017 1:37 PM
    Can you idiots stop saying liberal this liberal that

    No, they can’t. They also think man & dinosaur walked side by side.

  114. duffelbagsports says: May 9, 2017 1:49 PM

    Ah, the delicious difficulty for the reactionary, law and order crowd. They constantly talk about wanting judges who apply the laws as written, but they don’t like it when this judge applies the clear language of this law. They claim allegiance to the Constitution, but decry a law older than the Constitution. Or they’re so uninformed that they think the law was passed by a modern day liberal Massachusetts legislature.
    —————————–
    It’s English Common law which when applied here is not a law but a practice not articulated in a statute. So the judge has discretion he chose to follow hundreds of years of accepted policy which should not be set aside because in this instance things went sideways.

    Also what obligation do the Patriots have toward Odin Lloyd’s family? He didn’t have a spouse or kids he was raising. They have no contractual obligation. And quite frankly Lloyd knew who and what Hernandez was and willingly associated with him for the celebrity.

  115. slippery59 says: May 9, 2017 1:53 PM

    I don’t see why anyone here is so shocked by this decision. It was reported right after his suicide that this was going to happen and why. Everyone knows he is guilty….and now he is guilty and dead.

  116. silverhornet says: May 9, 2017 1:58 PM

    So if he was cryogenically frozen, and then brought back to life (100 years from now lets say), could he walk around a free man?

  117. RandyinRoxbury says: May 9, 2017 2:05 PM

    Why did AH commit suicide?
    In MA Baez would have freed him on appeal, other states no way.

  118. superpatriotsfan says: May 9, 2017 2:09 PM

    GOAT!

  119. harrisonhits2 says: May 9, 2017 2:13 PM

    “Liberal Massachusetts has everything to do with the existence of this law. Laws can be changed but the voters and their representatives chose to keep this law and utilize this law at every opportunity.

    It has to do with liberal lawmakers in that state.”

    So you guys want to explain why this same law is still on the books in numerous conservative as well as liberal states, and on the books for the federal government?

    Has nothing to do with liberal or conservative.

  120. finnymcphin says: May 9, 2017 2:13 PM

    abninf says:
    May 9, 2017 12:52 PM

    It has to do with liberal lawmakers in that state.
    ———————————————-

    If that’s the case then it has to do with the liberal lawmakers in a lot of states, including Texas which also recognizes abatement ab initio. Funny how to the Neanderthals it’s always about the liberals and the millenials, you guys give us conservatives a bad name.

  121. smitty113 says: May 9, 2017 2:16 PM

    Hillary approves

  122. onebuffalove716 says: May 9, 2017 2:20 PM

    Oj, Amanda Knox, Casey Anthony, now Hernandez!

    That’s quite some company to keep with

  123. townie45 says: May 9, 2017 2:26 PM

    Rest In Peace .

  124. bannedfromchoirpractice says: May 9, 2017 2:29 PM

    Has anyone else noticed that Judge Susan Garsh was appointed by the 68th Governor of Massachusetts, Bill Weld? That’s right, the Bill Weld who campaigned as the Libertarian Party’s nominee for Vice President of the United States in the 2016 election, sharing the ticket with Gary Johnson. (Interesting bit of trivia.)

  125. dedmedic says: May 9, 2017 2:36 PM

    There was a sports lawyer on WEEI a little earlier, I’m sure the interview is available to hear, He said that he thinks the Patriots will owe the estate nothing, as Hernandez was not available to the team and violated the terms of the contract. Also Mass is not a common law state. So the girlfriend is entitled to squat, the child, yes.

  126. bradygirl12 says: May 9, 2017 2:50 PM

    I was under the impression that Hernandez breached the personal conduct portion of his contract by being arrested and charged with murder,which made the contract null and void. In that case, the Patriots would owe him nothing. I may be wrong… ?

  127. realityonetwo says: May 9, 2017 2:51 PM

    So, if there was no murder, then there was no harm perpetrated upon the family of the “victim.” Thus, said family can’t sue Hernandez’s estate, and thus Hernandez’s family gets to keep all that dough.

    Sounds like a great incentive for the family of someone in the pokey to have that person killed to protect their interests.

  128. steelpenguin6687 says: May 9, 2017 2:59 PM

    Definitely not a Patriots fan, but I hope they don’t pay the estate a dime. It was obvious, at least by the note to the GF, that he planned it for the sole purpose of getting money from the Patriots. (You’re rich) That fact alone, should have nullified the overturning of the conviction. The fact is this, the law needs abolished in every state that still has it on the books. IMO

  129. bannedfromchoirpractice says: May 9, 2017 3:01 PM

    realityonetwo says:
    May 9, 2017 2:51 PM
    So, if there was no murder, then there was no harm perpetrated upon the family of the “victim.” Thus, said family can’t sue Hernandez’s estate, and thus Hernandez’s family gets to keep all that dough.

    Sounds like a great incentive for the family of someone in the pokey to have that person killed to protect their interests.
    ———————————————————

    The OJ Simpson fiasco proves the opposite of what you are presenting.

  130. fishyinalittledishy says: May 9, 2017 3:07 PM

    Hernandez must have been pretty sure that popping his clogs would result in financial benefit to his daughter and also who advised him on this. Regarding this law maybe this is the only good thing to come out of this by getting it changed. Really I do wonder what planet people are on thinking this is a good law.

  131. savethebs says: May 9, 2017 3:09 PM

    Liberal law? Haha this same law is on the books in many states, including Texas.

  132. tfgmjg says: May 9, 2017 3:11 PM

    I have not seen where anyone has mentioned that he was convicted of a Felony gun charge when they acquitted him of the double murder. He was sentenced to 5 years in prison. I have not seen any indication that this conviction was under appeal, as it occurred in the new double murder trial and the 5 years was to run concurrently with the murder conviction. Unless it was appealed, it means he has a felony conviction and 5 year sentence. This would be enough for the Patriots to not pay him.

  133. metitometin says: May 9, 2017 3:20 PM

    So Hernandez is innocent the same way OJ is innocent. Everyone knows he’s guilty. On another issue, I can’t believe how FOX News brainwashes so many people to believe this is some liberal law. Liberals are the true Americans while Trump is in bed with Russia.

  134. PFT is Lemmy's beach says: May 9, 2017 3:25 PM

    fishyinalittledishy says:
    May 9, 2017 3:07 PM
    Hernandez must have been pretty sure that popping his clogs would result in financial benefit to his daughter and also who advised him on this. Regarding this law maybe this is the only good thing to come out of this by getting it changed. Really I do wonder what planet people are on thinking this is a good law.

    That would be the planet where people adhere to the rule of law, accept that innocent people do end up in jail and deserve an appeal and don’t make snap judgments based on visceral reactions. The planet where it doesn’t make sense has self deflating tires and science is heresy.

  135. golfdaddy1961 says: May 9, 2017 3:30 PM

    Legally, at this point he has no victims.

    As for him “helping his daughter”, why not just be a law-abiding citizen? Talk about a twisted legacy.

    Look, when you do stupid, evil things, your loved ones may have to share the consequences, regardless of complicity. Maybe think of that before committing a premeditated murder. And then, if you’re still thinking of killing some else, kill yourself first..

  136. finnymcphin says: May 9, 2017 3:31 PM

    bradygirl12 says:
    May 9, 2017 2:50 PM
    I was under the impression that Hernandez breached the personal conduct portion of his contract by being arrested and charged with murder,which made the contract null and void. In that case, the Patriots would owe him nothing. I may be wrong… ?
    ———————————–

    There are interesting arguments to be made on many fronts with that. The Patriots did the right thing morally but the wrong thing financially by releasing him before he was charged. There was a settlement of some kind between the team and Hernandez in 2014 but it could not have been an in toto settlement since both the NFLPA and the team filed recovery grievances against each other pertaining to his contract that they agreed to hold in abeyance until his legal issues were resolved. The team’s argument for withholding his unpaid signing bonus is based on Hernandez having misrepresented himself since Odin Lloyd’s murder preceded his contract. If he was ‘not guilty’ then that argument goes out the window. However abatement ab initio doesn’t fully obviate civil contracts or liabilities as it does with criminal ones. And on it goes, a tangled legal fur ball. For the same reason they initially released him in the most disadvantageous of ways to their financial interests the Patriots/Kraft might be inclined to settle out quietly but since any settlement might be enjoined by Hernandez’s victims it is unlikely to be quiet. All in all Kraft’s desire to do what he saw as the right thing may well cost him more than if they had just waited for the state to charge him. We mock teams for the ‘we will await the legal decision and have no further comment at this time’ standpoint but from a financial standpoint it is the sound one if we don’t see it as the ‘right’ one.

  137. bradygirl12 says: May 9, 2017 3:41 PM

    If, for some reason, the Patriots are forced to fork over any money, I hope they set up a trust fund for the little girl, unable to be touched until she is 21,and unable to be touched by her criminal of a mother. She was not his wife, though she tried pretty hard . She is an accessory to murder. She got rid of the murder weapon and other evidence, and would be in jail had she not flipped on him. I would like to see the Lloyd family get something, but it’s not looking good now that the conviction has been thrown out. The whole story is just crazy and sad. Mostly sad for his victims…all of them.

  138. patsrule59 says: May 9, 2017 3:44 PM

    For all the people suggesting that Bob Kraft and the Patriots should simply cut Odin Lloyd’s family a check, forget about it. The team doesn’t dare do that, because it would open up a Pandora’s box.

    If the Patriots were to cut the Lloyd family a check, then there would be a line around the block of people claiming to have been harmed by Hernandez at some point, and also expecting a payoff. That would include at the very least, Alexander Bradley (whom Hernandez allegedly shot between the eyes), and the families of Safiro Furtado and Daniel de Abreau (yes, I realize Hernandez was acquitted of those murders, but the families can still sue in civil court).

    And those are just the ones we know about. Who knows how many people would come out of the woodwork alleging to have been harmed by Hernandez while he was employed by the Patriots.

  139. InterstellarSuperstar says: May 9, 2017 3:48 PM

    The simple solution is to have a faster appeals process. What if he spent ten years in jail before they heard the appeal? If he killed himself then, would he have still gotten the conviction vacated?

  140. senatorblutarsky says: May 9, 2017 3:49 PM

    Pay up, patsies!!!

  141. InterstellarSuperstar says: May 9, 2017 3:50 PM

    Can I use the eraser that the judge had? There’s a few things in my life I’d like to have disappear.

  142. finnymcphin says: May 9, 2017 3:50 PM

    RandyinRoxbury says:
    May 9, 2017 2:05 PM
    Why did AH commit suicide?
    In MA Baez would have freed him on appeal, other states no way.
    —————————————

    If you were from a liberal state you would understand that the way their judges bend over backwards to protect defendants and handcuff prosecutors makes conviction in one of them even less likely to be overturned. It’s the double edged sword anyone convicted in one faces.

  143. jagmankane says: May 9, 2017 3:52 PM

    He knew about said law… it was a plan he hatched.
    Take his life, conviction withdrawn, money must be paid to…baby mama, child, and prison lover…

    wait what?

    oh yeah…
    look into it.

  144. jagmankane says: May 9, 2017 3:55 PM

    metitometin says:
    May 9, 2017 3:20 PM
    So Hernandez is innocent the same way OJ is innocent. Everyone knows he’s guilty. On another issue, I can’t believe how FOX News brainwashes so many people to believe this is some liberal law. Liberals are the true Americans while Trump is in bed with Russia.
    ——————————————————-

    Dude… don’t bring that crap here.
    You claim people are brainwashed by FOX…

    it seems you’ve been brainwashed by NBC, or CNN, or ABC… or some other liberal network.

    Left or right… it’s all wrong.
    #GetCentered

  145. daytontriangles says: May 9, 2017 4:30 PM

    Congrats, Aaron, your plan to take care of your family worked.

    Alternately, you could have gotten millions more for yourself and your family by not murdering anyone.

    But I guess that option didn’t occur to you.

  146. briang123 says: May 9, 2017 4:33 PM

    Of course it was vacated. The only evidence they had was that he killed those other two criminals, which a jury saw right through and acquitted him. If I were the family, I’d sue everyone involved for forcing him to suicide due to the false first conviction. Now that Trump stole the election with the help of the Russians, prosecutors think they can convict any Hispanic when they feel like it

  147. digglerthegoat says: May 9, 2017 4:38 PM

    I hope the Victims sue the estate.

  148. ryansbachelorparty says: May 9, 2017 4:55 PM

    First of all, Can anyone verify that suicide is a legitimate way to pull this off? Typically, like insurance, if you plan a scheme for a payout, it’s void.

    Secondly, in the event that his wife got the money, she’d be immediately sued by Odin Lloyd’s family. Lawyers get a third, and boom, adios dollarinos.

  149. harrisonhits2 says: May 9, 2017 5:01 PM

    “Of course it was vacated. The only evidence they had was that he killed those other two criminals, which a jury saw right through and acquitted him.”

    Well there’s the most clueless thing I’ve seen written about this today.

    They had him on Llyod’s murder cold. The evidence was overwhelming and there’s no question he killed him.

  150. chrisernst82 says: May 9, 2017 5:14 PM

    Dumb law but it does have a golden lining. The Pats now have to payout instead of taxpayers being on the hook for supporting him the rest of his life. The same taxpayers who have to cover most of the costs for those awesome stadiums.

  151. golions1 says: May 9, 2017 5:51 PM

    Let’s just say he was convicted by a jury of his peers.

  152. fakebookfreddy says: May 9, 2017 6:24 PM

    So does this mean he gets a military burial as a Patriot?

  153. iamedreed says: May 9, 2017 6:33 PM

    the patriots should have to pay that money either way

    who gets to keep that should be up for debate, but its guaranteed money for a reason

  154. bradygirl12 says: May 9, 2017 6:35 PM

    The jury convicted him. He killed Odin Lloyd and left him there like trash. I don’t care what that antiquated law states. Aaron Hernandez is,was,and always will be a convicted killer in the eyes of everyone who has common sense.

  155. officialgame says: May 9, 2017 6:53 PM

    If it cost Kraft money I’m OK with it.

  156. ilovemyravens says: May 9, 2017 7:21 PM

    Aawww man that was a great play. Gotta love loop holes. #RIPstill

  157. staffordwives9999 says: May 9, 2017 7:24 PM

    Cool… screw the ever-cheating patriots

  158. tomhipps says: May 9, 2017 7:44 PM

    RE: some of these comments…
    First, don’t blame the judge. His job is to interpret and follow the law, which he did, even though it’s a stupid law that needs to change. They’re basically saying the jury’s verdict didn’t count… like it never happened. Idiotic. In the event of death, the most recent judgement should stand.
    Second, you who are saying “Satan will torture him for eternity”… how do YOU know? God alone is judge. And I believe he is merciful, and mercy is given to those who don’t deserve it. Do I think it’s ok Hernandez murdered someone? Of course not! But do I want him tortured for eternity? No, I’m not that perverted and sick. How do you know he didn’t repent of his sin before he took his life? (And if you’re saying suicide earns you a ticket to hell, well… in the most polite terms I can put it, we’ll agree to disagree.)

  159. breadmeatcheese says: May 9, 2017 7:57 PM

    ^um taking that stuff a way too figuratively bro.

  160. bigcid10 says: May 9, 2017 8:22 PM

    yeeeeeh !!!

  161. twoteamsforlosangeles says: May 9, 2017 8:28 PM

    Boo hiss. The wrong person ended up winning anyway.

  162. delshofner says: May 9, 2017 8:30 PM

    I can’t believe they’re letting Hernandez walk!

  163. mrboado says: May 9, 2017 8:53 PM

    Mr. Florio, isn’t it true that even though this case ended in abatement that someone could stand in Hernandez’s position as a proxy? Like his estate or administrator? Obviously, the jail time wouldn’t be served, but the murder conviction would still stand.

  164. stonedrichards says: May 9, 2017 8:57 PM

    “Hernandez in the eyes of the law is not guilty of murder.”

    Not only has Massachusetts law lost sight of the obvious but it makes an absurdity out of the notion that justice is blind. Hernandez is a freakin’ murderer and anyone with common sense can see that.

    Not only that, Hernandez would not have committed suicide if not for the fact that the state of Massachusetts incarcerated him and diligently proscecuted him for murder.

    1. Incarceration and diligent prosecution were totally responsible for his emotional state of mind.
    2. The law rewards him if he commits suicide.

    Gee, I think this is prima facie aiding and abetting a suicide.

  165. stonedrichards says: May 9, 2017 8:59 PM

    “Hernandez in the eyes of the law is not guilty of murder.”

    Not only has Massachusetts law lost sight of the obvious but it makes an absurdity out of the notion that justice is blind. Hernandez is a freakin’ murderer and anyone with common sense can see that.

    Not only that, Hernandez would not have committed suicide if not for the fact that the state of Massachusetts incarcerated him and diligently prosecuted him for murder.

    1. Incarceration and diligent prosecution were totally responsible for his emotional state of mind.
    2. The law rewards him if he commits suicide.

    Gee, I think this is prima facie aiding and abetting a suicide.

  166. kptb12 says: May 9, 2017 9:01 PM

    Mass will do away with this law soon. High profile case, the law will be amended very soon. As it should be!

  167. TheWizard says: May 9, 2017 9:06 PM

    If the Pats have to pay, they should immediately sue the estate for whatever they can cook up.

  168. dankil13 says: May 9, 2017 10:45 PM

    “All the money should go to the daughter. The “fiancee” should get a coupon for a free Big Mac and small fry and that is it. She can pay for her own Pepsi.”

    Actually I hope his victims’ families take a large chunk of what ever money his estate has in the wrongful death suits…

  169. gizzmonic says: May 10, 2017 7:36 AM

    Then bill him 1000 an hour for using Massachusets finest living resort.

  170. superpatriotsfan says: May 10, 2017 11:33 AM

    The mind of a Patriots is like the mind of a woman.

    They don’t know what they want
    They are never happy
    They run on feelings
    They will deny anything that will tarnish their image
    They leech onto the success of others

  171. strummer174 says: May 10, 2017 3:35 PM

    Odin Lloyd’s family can still get his money. They can bring a wrongful death suit, which is a civil case, and has a totally different standard of proof (and set of procedures) than a criminal trial. If they win, which they should, they can collect a very tidy sum from Hernandez. That’s what the Goldmans did to OJ Simpson.

    Also, ease up on the judge. He is sworn to apply the law. It’s a flawed law, but it’s not up to the judge to decide which laws to apply and which to ignore. Your issue is with the legislature that created and passed the law.

  172. bamboozle99 says: May 10, 2017 4:18 PM

    They wanted him on their team, they shall suffer the consequences. I’m amazed to see how people act over Kraft’s money.

  173. dguy901 says: May 12, 2017 8:39 AM

    Suck-butt Dimm judge! He was already convicted and that judge should be executed for accepting bribes!

  174. catfish252 says: May 12, 2017 9:05 AM

    The citizens of Massachusetts need to revisit this law, it makes no sense. What they should do is put an asterisk next to his conviction, stating that he died before his appeal could be concluded, but the conviction still stands. I am so glad I don’t live there. What a messed up state.

  175. JaredJayden says: May 12, 2017 2:04 PM

    I hope his daughter gets the money. Any child who has to go through life having this guy as a father, alive or not, deserves some kind of compensation.

  176. dylanjharper says: May 12, 2017 4:47 PM

    @catfish252

    “The citizens of Massachusetts need to revisit this law, it makes no sense. What they should do is put an asterisk next to his conviction, stating that he died before his appeal could be concluded, but the conviction still stands. I am so glad I don’t live there. What a messed up state.”

    Idk what state you live in but I have some bad news for you…

  177. Nobull night says: May 13, 2017 11:43 AM

    dguy901 says:
    May 12, 2017 8:39 AM
    Suck-butt Dimm judge! He was already convicted and that judge should be executed for accepting bribes!

    ————–

    Actually, thats a law Massachusetts does not have.

  178. calperson says: May 15, 2017 11:40 PM

    Totally bizarre. Only lawyers and judges who are failed lawyers could come up with this kind of logic. Next thing you know they will declare Odin Lloyd died of natural causes.

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