Leak of Seahawks’ sudden interest in Kaepernick sparks some cynicism

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On Monday, Seahawks coach Pete Carroll mused publicly about the possibility of signing quarterbacks Colin Kaepernick of Robert Griffin III. Then came the report from NFL Media that the Seahawks had recently reached out to Kaepernick’s agent about a possible backup job.

One league source with knowledge of Kaepernick’s situation posed this question to PFT in response to the news: “When do teams publicize that they’re interested in a player who is available for other teams to sign as well?”

The answer may be this: The NFL wants it out there that someone/anyone is talking to Kaepernick about a job.

In recent days, questions have intensified regarding Kaepernick’s ongoing unemployment. With weeks of flawed assumptions and false narratives regarding Kaepernick’s demands, abilities, and objectives, no one had actually gone to the source to acquire the information necessary to reaching a decision about whether to sign him. With word emerging that the Seahawks have spoken to Kaepernick about being a backup, the glaring failure of anyone to reach out to Kaepernick has now been addressed.

The real question is whether the Seahawks will offer Kaepernick a job, and if so under what terms. If the Seahawks are indeed interested in signing him, it’s a change from late March, when Pete Carroll sounded lukewarm about Kaepernick at best.

“Well, we’ll see,” Carroll told PFT Live at the league meetings in Arizona. “We’ll see about the quarterback position. Colin has been an effective player, and he’s had some ups and downs in his playing career. I hope he finds a spot. I don’t know if it’s going to be with us.”

So the real questions now become: (1) whether the Seahawks’ interest in Kaepernick is legitimate; (2) if so, whether they will offer him a job; (3) if so, how much they will offer; and (4) why would they make it publicly known that they’re making a move on signing Kaepernick as a backup given that other teams could be inclined to jump into the fray?

102 responses to “Leak of Seahawks’ sudden interest in Kaepernick sparks some cynicism

  1. It’s really simple and though evidently an incredibly painful idea for some, the most qualified person gets the job.

  2. Kap:
    # of arrests. 0
    # of suspensions. 0
    # of beaten wives/girlfriends. 0
    # of drug violations. 0
    donations to worthy causes. $$$ millions

    Hardy:
    # of arrests. lots
    # of suspensions. lots
    # of beaten wives/girlfriends. at least 1
    # of drug violations. too many to count
    donations to worthy causes. 0
    __________________________________

    Hardy gets a job. Kap doesn’t. This is your NFL people.

  3. Let’s get REAL: You don’t mind all the headaches & weirdness–the NFL has plenty of that–if there is better than a 50/50 chance the Player is gonna have a positive impact on the Field. Objectively, that is simply NOT the case here. Therefore, all the Politically Correct ‘Noise’ coming from PFT or anywhere else…is just that.

  4. I think this is a legitimate interest. With Seattle’s backup QB having been arrested two times already, the can’t risk it. Colin would be a good backup QB in a system similar to what he played in SF.

    As far as the repercussions in signing Colin, I think Seattle’s fan base is one of the few that wouldn’t care about his protesting and social stuff he does.

  5. “When do teams publicize that they’re interested in a player who is available for other teams to sign as well?”

    The answer: When the player is the most hated player in the country and the owner wants to make sure that signing him won’t alienate the fanbase.

  6. Carroll didn’t say anything. Just that they look at “everybody.” I used to tell Niner fans that Kaep would be Wilson’s backup if they were on the same team. Look who’s right…again.

  7. wonder if other businesses are being forced to be interested in employees who have made political stands or something at that sort in other places of employment?

  8. This is the last Kaepernick story I read. I’ve reached my limit on these conspiracy theories. HE IS JUST NOT GOOD ENOUGH TO DEAL WITH THE EXTRA MEDIA CIRCUS…

  9. Seattle is Kaep’s only option to play this year. The Hawks are going to get a bargain. Next year they will let him go for a 3rd round comp pick.

  10. It sounds like Schneider or Carol or the owner is just trying to get some good press(the same report might be bad press in other markets.)

  11. There may be a lot of false “narratives” about what he’s asking for and or about his true intentions (playing vs social work etc) but there has never been anything false… or fake… or misleading written about his ability.
    He has none and talent wvaluators realize that. He can’t read defenses, locks in on his first read then runs, and his passes beyond 10 yards flutter like the Peyton Manning specials only without the anticipation or the accuracy.
    His continued unemployment is about his talent not his activism……. stop trying to say anything else

  12. Why might Seattle be interested in a veteran QB?

    1. Trevone Boykin–13 of 18 for 145 yds 1 TD 1 INT in SEA.
    2. Jake Heaps–32 TDs & 27 INTs in college.

    Those are currently Russell Wilson’s backups.

  13. Well, let’s be honest, the “intensifying questions” about his future have originated almost exclusively from this site ..everyone else knows the deal and we’ve moved on.

  14. niners816 says:
    May 16, 2017 10:05 AM
    Well he’s a loser and that franchise is a loser. Make it happen
    ———-
    If anyone knows losing, it’s this current generation of niner “faithful.” So faithful you couldn’t show up to your home games the last two seasons. You’re the true bandwagoners. Fact.

  15. “When do teams publicize that they’re interested in a player who is available for other teams to sign as well?”

    Similar comments could have been made about their handling of the Richard Sherman trade-talks . . . was there a conspiracy with that?

  16. Sorry dude, you pissed away your chance with erratic play on the field and actions that detracted from the team and organization while on the sidelines. Marginal quarterbacks can hang around for a time, (if nothing better drops by for a visit), but marginal quarterbacks who feel it’s not only their right but their obligation to use their position in sports as a platform to forward their views on social injustice, are only asking to get cut, and/or ignored by other teams. Your fifteen minutes are up.

  17. So in late March, Carroll played it coy when talking about any potential interest in Kaepernick, which is what every other coach would do. Now that it’s May and no other team has shown any interest, he’s more willing to talk about his own potential interest. I really don’t see a disconnect here.

  18. Teams aren’t reaching out to Kaepernick because he’s asking for the same contract he didn’t live up to in San Francisco and he sucks now.

    Also, teams are reluctant to sign him because his kneel downs will become a national story and it becomes a distraction.

    Maybe teams would be willing to overlook the distraction if he were a better QB but why take the risk of taking on a guy with baggage when he’s just mediocre?

  19. There are often mentions of teams being interested in players. But it includes a visit to the facility for a workout/physical.

    No physical/workout, no real interest.

  20. So, nobody is interested, shame on NFL owners.

    Team is interested – Awfully fishy, probably a lie.

    Seems like there is no win in the Kaepernick drama from PFT. Someone above compared Kaep to Hardy. The difference is, the teams who would take a chance on him like the Cowboys and Bengals are not in need of a QB. Teams like the Seahawks who can deal with the extra media attention will be the other type of teams interested and it seems they currently are. Also, Hardy is a starter in the NFL. Kaep is a back up at best on any team who might be interested in him. Rebuilding teams would rather have an unknown at QB and see if they have the next Peyton Manning. Teams in need of a veteran QB for the next 4-5 years already have a system in place that Kaep does not fit. There are legitimate reasons why he is not employed outside of just kneeling. Remember too, he did not kneel. He pouted and sat on the bench. Once the media caught wind of it he made up this standing up for his people spiel to take some of the heat off of his sitting on the bench pouting.

  21. Corrected it for you.

    “Cowboys DE Greg Hardy donates $300 for ‘WE STILL DEM BOYZ!’ banner to be flown over Eagles camp”

    ———————————————————
    Hardy:
    # of arrests. lots
    # of suspensions. lots
    # of beaten wives/girlfriends. at least 1
    # of drug violations. too many to count
    donations to worthy causes. 1

  22. Occam’s razor states that “other things being equal, simpler explanations are generally better than more complex ones.”

    The Seahawks have a need. If the NFL wanted to help Kaepernick’s employment situation, they can easily offer him a job.

  23. footballfan420 says:
    May 16, 2017 10:32 AM
    “When do teams publicize that they’re interested in a player who is available for other teams to sign as well?”

    Similar comments could have been made about their handling of the Richard Sherman trade-talks . . . was there a conspiracy with that?

    ——————————–

    Do you seriously not see the difference? Sherman is under contract.. The only team talking about his availability is the one who also happens to hold his contract. They get to decide where he goes, depending on the compensation being offered.

    Kaep is available for anyone to sign and they could probably get him for next to nothing. So why announce that you might be interested in signing him and forcing another team off the fence (assuming there is one) who might have been waiting for his value to bottom out?

  24. “Well, we’ll see,” Carroll told PFT Live. Translation, “If he’s still swaying in the wind and realizes he’s only going to get the vet minimum….then way may sign him.”

  25. Real questions:

    (1) Whether the media’s interest in Kaepernick is legitimately related to football matters.

    (2) If so, will they shut up after Kaepernick is offered a job?

    (3) If so, how will they continue to push the SJW narrative?

    (4) Why does the Media make it publicly known that they’re lobbying for an irrelevant backup QB, given that their core readers could be inclined to jump into the fray on other storylines?

  26. The Seahawks were very interested in Kap when he came out college. They have played against him many times and know what he can and cannot do well. If the price is right, it would be a good move. No conspiracy required.

  27. For whatever anybody says about kap being a has been, I’ll say he’s probably better than anybody the bears, jets, browns have to play quarterback. Even the 9ers right now might not have a better quarterback. Marginal quarterback play or not, he’s probably still better than half the starting qbs in the league. Depending on how big his ego is at this point he could turn into a David Carr type and at least get paid something while sitting behind a starter who rarely comes out the game. I’ll admit I do think it’s bad business for the NFL to not have someone employed because of the civil liberty beliefs. I didn’t agree with some of his actions, but if he can still play without alienating himself from the team he should be good. Just make sure you put that in his contract. As far as pissing away his opportunity, not when you have qbs who play like they never played a down football as #2 qbs on actual rosters.

  28. I think kcflake has it right. NFL wants someone to look at Kap because Kap is a recent playoff-caliber QB. Even if teams are ignoring him for politics/patriotism/disruption/whatever, it does not look good for the NFL for him to be ignored. So Seattle bit the bullet.

  29. I think this just a smoke screen. Seahawks won’t sign him but the NFL can NOW say Kaepernick is drawing interest and he’s not really being blackballed by the NFL. The true is he IS. He won’t be on a NFL team come September. When you disgrace & embarrass the sheild ,your NFL playing days are OVER.

  30. celticsforever says:
    May 16, 2017 10:10 AM
    Kap:
    # of arrests. 0
    # of suspensions. 0
    # of beaten wives/girlfriends. 0
    # of drug violations. 0
    donations to worthy causes. $$$ millions

    Hardy:
    # of arrests. lots
    # of suspensions. lots
    # of beaten wives/girlfriends. at least 1
    # of drug violations. too many to count
    donations to worthy causes. 0
    __________________________________

    Hardy gets a job. Kap doesn’t. This is your NFL people.

    Hardy’ is a bad citizen-out of the league. Kap: better citizen but hijacked the narrative an is out of the league.

  31. The Phantom Stranger says:
    May 16, 2017 10:42 AM
    So in late March, Carroll played it coy when talking about any potential interest in Kaepernick, which is what every other coach would do. Now that it’s May and no other team has shown any interest, he’s more willing to talk about his own potential interest. I really don’t see a disconnect here.

    ———–

    I don’t either. Somebody asked Carroll a question and he answered it. We’re talking about the backup QB position here.

  32. “(4) why would they make it publicly known that they’re making a move on signing Kaepernick as a backup given that other teams could be inclined to jump into the fray?”

    Yeah that was a bad move what with all the other teams that have just been panting right after him.

  33. valentino8100 says:
    May 16, 2017 10:07 AM
    It’s really simple and though evidently an incredibly painful idea for some, the most qualified person gets the job.

    if this were true kaepernick would have a job already somewhere

  34. “Why would they make it publicly known that they’re making a move on signing Kaepernick as a backup given that other teams could be inclined to jump into the fray?”

    They also mentioned RGIII. Maybe the cheapest guy “wins”.

  35. Kaepernick brings a sense of maturity and intellect that would benefit any locker room. Carrol, the smartest coach in the most stylish city, gets that. There is no story here, other than finding out if Kaep and the Seahawks can agree on terms, financially.

  36. Seattle is Kaep’s only option to play this year. The Hawks are going to get a bargain. Next year they will let him go for a 3rd round comp pick.

    It”ll be hard to get that level of compensation if CK doesn’t get any snaps. Backup QBs don’t usually lead to high round compensatory picks. They are released all the time with nobody noticing anything.

  37. If I were a Seahawks fan, I wouldn’t want him on my team! If he had to go in, I just couldn’t root for someone who uses the National Anthem for a protest vehicle.

  38. …no one had actually gone to the source to acquire the information necessary…

    …including yourself.

  39. niners816 says:
    May 16, 2017 10:05 AM
    Well he’s a loser and that franchise is a loser. Make it happen!
    ==========

    This from the fan of the team that made him into the loser that he is. LOL

  40. 1. looks like tarzan plays like jane.
    2.cant hit the water from the boat.
    3.not a pocket passer
    4.not getting any younger

    hard to think why he hasnt been sign by another team.

  41. paulland81 says:
    May 16, 2017 10:23 AM

    (snip)
    HE IS JUST NOT GOOD ENOUGH TO DEAL WITH THE EXTRA MEDIA CIRCUS…

    Exactly the point that Dungy made about Michael Sam and was ripped for it.

  42. “When do teams publicize that they’re interested in a player who is available for other teams to sign as well?”

    Another possible answer to that question would be “when the coach publicly states on the radio that they are interested which causes reporters to go after the story”.

    Just a guess.

  43. firstdownbrowns says:
    May 16, 2017 11:45 AM
    1. looks like tarzan plays like jane.
    2.cant hit the water from the boat.
    3.not a pocket passer
    4.not getting any younger

    hard to think why he hasnt been sign by another team.

    Are you talking about Kaep or Blaine Gabbert, the guy Kaep took over for and was much much better than last year.

    Hard to think why Gabbert was signed by another team, no?

  44. Let’s face it–the NFL and NASCAR are two of the largest entities that feature the American Flag with the God’s Country attitude that they SWEAR they’ll “defend to the death”–until someone chooses to express himself freely and legally, While Hurting No One.
    There comes a time where those people are going to have to decide if they want to live in America or not, eh?

  45. So now it’s not enough that a team is interested, but rather that they must sign him and at the right price.

    A main issue all along has been that Kaep walked away from $14M…thinking he was a starter. He’s not – so now he has to get his head around playing for $3-$5M

    He blew it. He should’ve stayed and competed in SF. He has no one to blame but himself.

  46. (4) why would they make it publicly known that they’re making a move on signing Kaepernick as a backup given that other teams could be inclined to jump into the fray?

    ——————————————————
    Because no one else is interested.

    Also people cry about it because he’s unemployed but also cry about it when someone shows interest that it’s not genuine?

  47. You are carrying his agents’ water no matter what. Calling head coaches and GMs liars, WOW.

  48. What I don’t get is the fact that is glossed over with the fact that he had a job and a team but he opted out of his contract. When he hit the market he found out that teams were not lining up to sign him.

    And on top of that there are things we just don’t know. Was he or was he not saying he would only sign to be a starter?

    What kind of money was he asking for?

    Would he fit a teams system?

    For the teams that need a QB was he interested in going there and was there a mutual interest? Perhaps the Browns might have been interested but there are fresh off the Manziel circus and maybe they didn’t want that again.

    There are things behind the scenes dorks like us posting on the internet have no idea about. Blackballed possibly (I won’t dispute it could be happening) Or maybe he is such a locker room cancer no one wants him.

  49. When was the last time a backup got this much attention? Tebow? When the season starts none of this will matter. Seattle showed intrest in L. Murray and J. Charles publicly. He also mentioned RG3 as well. That league source doesn’t pay attention to what’s going on. Also Pete was asked a direct question. He can’t deny it because the reports were already put out there. Who cates if other teams can sign him. If they wanted him, he would be signed by now.

  50. Why would anyone care if teams are interested in Kaepernick or not? Some in the media have taken a stand. It reminds me of when the media demanded that Michael Sam be drafted. If he wasn’t, it meant the NFL was a terrible place. He looked pretty bad at the combine.

  51. What I don’t get is the fact that is glossed over with the fact that he had a job and a team but he opted out of his contract. When he hit the market he found out that teams were not lining up to sign him.

    __________________________

    He didn’t have a job. Prior to opting out he met with Shanahan and Lynch and they let him know the team was going to release Kap. Kap opted out so he could get into the free agency period. The 49ers have no interest in keeping Kaep. Shanahan does not feel Kaep is a good fit for his offense and he isn’t going to run a read option

  52. I’ve been critical of Kaep, but I’ll tell you this. Going to Seattle to be Russel Wilson’s backup makes a ton of football sense for the Seahawks. As far as football goes: Kaep > RG3. By a mile.

    Now whether Kaep is humble enough to spend a year holding a clipboard for a pay cut with the spotlight being on a QB other than him is an open question… if he is, great move for both parties. Win-win.

    Having said that, it would be really funny to see RG3 get the backup QB job after all this though. That would shut up the “Kaep is being blacklisted!” Crowd.

  53. The only one asking questions about this POS is you. He had the freedom to protest. Now he has to live with the consequences. May he enjoy his self imposed unemployment!

  54. I have to wonder just how many teams are seriously in the market for a quarterback.. any.. quarterback.

    32 teams.
    minus teams with “franchise qbs” and backups they’re OK with.

    minus teams with 1st or 2nd year qbs they’re grooming, and already have veteran backups.

    I’m guessing that leaves about half the teams somewhere in the middle.

    Then, of those 16 (or so) teams, how many have a system that Kaep would fit into..

    When all’s said and done, there may only be a handful of teams that Kaep would “fit on” and that are in a position where he’d be an asset.

    I’m not saying there could be some “black-balling” going on. But owners need to decide if a guy’s media circus is worth the effort.

  55. Kaepernick isn’t looking for high backup/low starter salary and a chance to start? What does he want?

    He requested to be traded last year. He talked with Denver but wouldn’t decrease his salary to 7 million. I couldn’t believe his agents thought the 49ers might make up the difference. So, he played with the 49ers where he had a contract beyond 2017. The contract was changed because Kaepernick wanted to be able to opt out after 2016. He opted out. He initiates things then blames people when they don’t work out? He gets people to call GMs and head coaches liars. Must be nice to have that stroke. Kaepernick isn’t a pro style QB. So, the number of teams interested in him is limited because they’d have to change their offense.

  56. He didn’t have a job. Prior to opting out he met with Shanahan and Lynch and they let him know the team was going to release Kap. Kap opted out so he could get into the free agency period. The 49ers have no interest in keeping Kaep. Shanahan does not feel Kaep is a good fit for his offense and he isn’t going to run a read option

    That’s not true. Talk about lying.

  57. jonathankrobinson424 says:
    May 16, 2017 11:05 AM

    I think this just a smoke screen. Seahawks won’t sign him but the NFL can NOW say Kaepernick is drawing interest and he’s not really being blackballed by the NFL. The true is he IS. He won’t be on a NFL team come September. When you disgrace & embarrass the sheild ,your NFL playing days are OVER.

    Why would the NFL care? He’s not a pro style QB and he got out of a contract. The 32 teams have a choice whether to employ a player or not. Playing in the NFL isn’t a right. I’ve worked for employers that have fired people for subjective reasons. That’s life.

  58. bannedfromchoirpractice says:
    May 16, 2017 11:37 AM

    Kaepernick brings a sense of maturity and intellect

    ——————————————————-

    “The greatest enemy of knowledge is not ignorance, it is the illusion of knowledge” – Stephen Hawking

  59. celticsforever says:
    May 16, 2017 10:10 AM
    Kap:
    # of arrests. 0
    # of suspensions. 0
    # of beaten wives/girlfriends. 0
    # of drug violations. 0
    donations to worthy causes. $$$ millions

    Hardy:
    # of arrests. lots
    # of suspensions. lots
    # of beaten wives/girlfriends. at least 1
    # of drug violations. too many to count
    donations to worthy causes. 0
    __________________________________

    Hardy gets a job. Kap doesn’t. This is your NFL people.
    *********
    Well and I thought being a football player was all about winning games and not a nice guy contest. If they are nice guys and great football players great but in the grand scheme if they are just great players thats all I really care about. If they are naughty and on another team I will have a go at them, but on my team I don’t care as long as they play good every week.

  60. Jerry jones should take a gamble on him. He is a true Patriot with leadership skills that will represent the Dallas organization well.

  61. If he had the talent, every team in the league would overlook his dragging politics to the field, and, in fact, would praise his social conscience and publicly support him.

    If he had the talent.

    Think about that for a second.

  62. Kaepernick and his fiancee support ISIS .. left-wing political activists who support ISIS – why would anyone (besides ISIS) hire him?

  63. Wait, so first it was a conspiracy not to talk to him, now it is a conspiracy to make it look like teams are talking to him?

    As to the question posed to PFT, the answer would be:

    “When the player is still unsigned in mid may after the draft and past the cutoff where they don’t count against the comp formula, and their people are leaking that no one has so much as called them, NO team is the least bit worried about their potential interest becoming public.”

  64. He didn’t have a job. Prior to opting out he met with Shanahan and Lynch and they let him know the team was going to release Kap. Kap opted out so he could get into the free agency period. The 49ers have no interest in keeping Kaep. Shanahan does not feel Kaep is a good fit for his offense and he isn’t going to run a read option
    —————————————————-
    That’s not true. Talk about lying.
    —————————————————

    It is 100% true. You obviously haven’t followed closely because it has been reported many times by numerous sources

  65. So no one shows interest in Kaepernick.
    PFT: Clearly a conspiracy to keep him out of the league

    One team actually shows interest.
    PFT: Are they _really_ interested or is it just for show?

    Predictions:

    Team signs Kaepernick.
    PFT: Does he really have a job or is this just to keep him quiet and silence the criticism?

    Team starts Kaepernick, team does badly:
    PFT: Why are they sabotaging Colin Kapernick?

    Team wins Super Bowl 14-6 with Kaepernick as starter.
    PFT: Why didn’t the team give Kaepernick more chances to win MVP?

  66. Why would the Seahawks take him?

    1.) He hasn’t played well for a long time.

    2.) Remember the last playoff game he lost to the Seahawks, Sherman ribbed him good. Will there be tension?

    3.) Kap has a history of isolating teammates, in fact one of his teammates that went to MN wanted to punch him in the face.

    4.) Prior to the knee stuff, he was in the headlines in a negative way. Prior to the knee people were wondering if the 49ers would cut him.

    5.) Lastly and least importantly: The knee. He doesn’t vote, questionable donation history prior to refusal, etc etc. I doubt this has much to do with it, compared to what Dallas has had to deal with over the years this would be welcomed.

  67. I dunno. It’s been 3-4 months of no one talking to Kap. At this point, Paul Allen could be having daily lunches with him and I’m pretty sure no one else is going to jump on the wagon and say “Hey, Kap, sign with us! We’ll pay you more!”

    Or, is Seattle such a trend setting team that when they talk to someone, the entire league suddenly asks, “What did we miss? Let’s get in on that action?”

    I doubt it.

  68. Dear KAP……

    Rise above the Hate…The real football fans know there is more Gas in your tank… If most of these QB needy teams really wanted to win you would of been signed. Last time I checked you could still sling that rock.. Keep working hard and show these nay sayers you fit any scheme..

  69. Once he gets his contract he’ll start his protest crap again.
    Seattle is loaded with liberals so it will be accepted there.
    He made his bed, let him lay in it.

  70. I think the simplest explanation comes from looking at what we know.

    Carroll is notoriously a players’ coach

    Michael Bennet and Richard Sherman, both well-established team leaders, have supported CK and indicated similar political leanings

    Sherman and Bennet have both been publicly unhappy recently

    Taking those into account, I would guess the simple explanation is correct; coach gives a shout out to CK at behest of star players. Coach confirms to young players that he is who he says he is, grudgy players are placated, and maybe CK gets interest from other teams.
    Donald Trump recently invented a great phrase for this, “priming the pump”

  71. 75th Ranger Battalion
    1st Marine Division
    3rd I.D.
    7th Special Forces
    5th Special Forces
    101st Air Borne (Air Assault)
    82nd Air Borne
    Seal Team 2
    Seal Team 6
    Delta
    Special Operation Command

    Next time take a knee for them.

    hoorah…

  72. He’d be a good backup in Seattle. And, would see some playing time. I think they would offer him league minimum. Which is better than the unemployment line.

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