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Mark Cuban admits to tanking; what if an NFL owner would do the same?

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For professional sports teams that know they won’t be qualifying for the postseason, the reward for winning games is losing potential draft position. And so there’s a temptation to tank, even in sports that have a draft lottery.

Rarely, however, does a team owner admit to tanking. On Wednesday, one did.

“Once we were eliminated from the playoffs, we did everything we could to lose games,” Dallas Mavericks owner Mark Cuban told Dan Patrick. Cuban explained that a team tanks not by telling players to throw games but by putting younger players in the game, in order to see what they can do. (He also could choose to put an older player in the game, as in himself.)

Regardless of whether NBA Commissioner Adam Silver reacts negatively to this admission (he should), the question from the NFL’s perspective is whether Roger Goodell would regard such behavior as a threat to the integrity of his game. In late 2014, the Buccaneers mysteriously removed multiple starters while holding a double-digit lead in Week 17 against the Saints. Losing the game resulted in the Bucs winning the No. 1 overall pick, and the rights to Jameis Winston.

The temptation to tank is obivous. The difference between 6-10, 5-11, 4-12, and 3-13 is meaningless in the standings. In the draft order, however, the worse the record the better the spot.

Look at what the Bears gave up to move from No. 3 to No. 2 this year. Or what Washington surrendered five years ago to climb from No. 6 to No. 2.

Yes, the temptation to tank is real. Real enough for it to happen, at least subtly.

The only way to remove the tanking is to remove the temptation to tank. The only way to completely eliminate the temptation is to put all 20 non-playoff teams in the hopper with equal chances for the first overall pick in an open-air, made-for-TV event to be held in one of the cities in contention for the No. 1 overall pick that would generate a strong-to-quite-strong rating on NFL Network and/or ESPN.

A draft lottery would be good for business, both from the perspective of creating another offseason tentpole for the NFL — and regarding the tanking temptation that, for whatever reason, has never become a thing for the NFL.

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122 Responses to “Mark Cuban admits to tanking; what if an NFL owner would do the same?”
  1. thrifty says: May 17, 2017 1:54 PM

    That speaks volumes about Cuban’s integrity and the integrity of the NBA overall.

    #notsurprised

  2. therealraider says: May 17, 2017 1:55 PM

    Losers tank.

  3. bighoser says: May 17, 2017 1:56 PM

    Look for the Niners and Browns to do this to get a shot at one of the Big 3 QBs coming out next year.

  4. burtmustin says: May 17, 2017 1:58 PM

    If Jim Irsay ever admitted to sucking for Luck, it would cost the Patriots another first round draft pick.

  5. Bl00dwerK says: May 17, 2017 1:58 PM

    Teams who aren’t in contention, and have only the offseason to look forward to, shouldn’t be forced to try and win meaningless games. I say take a “Don’t ask, don’t tell” approach. They could easily explain sitting starters by saying they don’t want to risk possible career-ending injuries on meaningless games. Honestly, what organization (or fan, for that matter), wants to see any of their best players hurt battling in games that don’t matter? Sit your best, give the youngsters some time (see what they’ve got), and move on.

  6. harrisonhits2 says: May 17, 2017 2:00 PM

    Anyone with a Mavs season ticket should sue for consumer fraud, plain and simple.

  7. bullcharger says: May 17, 2017 2:04 PM

    If you reward teams with a top pick for losing and they have no chance to win the championship, what else are they supposed to do?

    That’s why soccer has relegation. You should desperately not want to finish last.

  8. jeremycrowhurst says: May 17, 2017 2:05 PM

    So your solution to the problem that doesn’t actually exist is to screw all the teams that need the help the most?

    Brilliant.

  9. tjacks7 says: May 17, 2017 2:06 PM

    You mean if a team were to Suck for Luck? NFL owners wouldn’t do that! Oh, wait.

  10. stealthjunk says: May 17, 2017 2:07 PM

    I’m surprised Cuban said they were doing everything they could to lose games. It would have come off better if he just said: “Once we were out of the playoffs, we wanted to get our young guys some experience and start planning for next year rather than maximizing our meaningless wins.”

  11. whatjusthapped says: May 17, 2017 2:07 PM

    Do you mean to tell us the Vikings weren’t tanking last season to improve Philly’s 1st round pick? How do you finish 3-8 if it wasn’t on purpose?

  12. jgedgar70 says: May 17, 2017 2:07 PM

    I disagree. Tanking is awful; I agree with that. But the NBA draft lottery has been fixed from the very beginning. The first one was fixed to ensure Patrick Ewing went to New York instead of a wasteland like Golden State was at the time (GS was the worst team in the league and got the last slot in the lottery). The 2012 lottery was fixed so New Orleans could get Anthony Davis to prop up a flailing franchise (robbing the Charlotte franchise, coming off the worst season in NBA history, of such a superstar), and the one held last night was fixed to ensure Lonzo Ball gets to play for the Lakers (everybody and his duck knows the Celtics have no interest in taking Ball and getting rid of Isaiah Thomas).

    I’m not sure how you write the verbiage to define tanking, other than “it’s like porn, you know it when you see it.” But get some legal eagles to figure that out, and hit franchises that tank with an 8-figure fine and their first round pick moved to the last spot in the round.

    But no, do not have a draft lottery!

  13. laces out says: May 17, 2017 2:08 PM

    The NBA should just bring back the original method they had with the giant envelopes. If I remember correctly, each pick, not just the top 3, was randomly selected and with equal odds. And it was done in plain sight, not behind closed doors.

  14. ipeefreelyagain says: May 17, 2017 2:10 PM

    Maybe lotto the top 10 picks only.

  15. lukarwarrior says: May 17, 2017 2:10 PM

    I think the big difference, though, is that in the NBA and even in the NHL, it’s just sort of accepted by fans that every now and then you have to blow it all up and start from scratch. And that is understood throughout the organization. In the NFL every fan is expecting this year to be THEIR year.

    Even when we acknowledge a team needs to rebuild, the timetable is much more accelerated than in the other leagues. You’re expected to show results after a year or two, max. Plus in the NFL the kind between making the playoffs and not making them is pretty slim. Unless you’re in the AFC East, pretty much every team has a legitimate shot at taking their division and earning a playoff game.

    So no. No draft lottery in the NFL.

  16. Lisa_the_Greek says: May 17, 2017 2:12 PM

    I really don’t like the draft lottery idea with if every non-playoff team gets equal chances for the number 1 pick. A weighted lottery system makes more sense to me, but I’m also not really that interested in seeing it change at all.

    The argument that it will reduce temptation to tank is not that strong when tanking in the NFL is already uncommon.

    But most of all, the argument that the NFL should do this so they can add another revenue stream by televising a draft order selection event makes me want to barf. I would never watch that nonsense.

  17. jm91rs says: May 17, 2017 2:12 PM

    I’d love the excitement of a lottery in the NFL, but let’s be honest. The only chance a team like Cleveland has to climb out of the basement is by getting that number one pick along with a can’t-miss guy being the obvious first choice. If they want parity, the only thing they can do is what they’re doing now.

  18. ricko1112 says: May 17, 2017 2:12 PM

    Ummmmm….

    The “Suck for Luck” campaign was as egregious, blatant, and obvious as tanking could be. They even made t-shirts. The Colts received no penalty whatsoever. That should come as no surprise since they also received no penalties for:

    Playing with deflated footballs during the AFCCG against NE. NE was fined $1M and Brady was suspended 4 games for the exact same offense during the exact same game. The Colts even ADMITTED to tampering with the NE’s football! The one Jackson intercepted.

    Piping in phony crowd noise into their stadium. Atlanta Falcons, what was your penalty? The Colts were nailed doing it during a nationally televised game, but got zilch.

    Admitted to hiding Luck’s broken ribs and lacerated kidney from the injury report in order to gain an unfair advantage. Again, no penalty.

  19. pastabelly says: May 17, 2017 2:12 PM

    A Shark Tank

  20. The Power Rankings says: May 17, 2017 2:13 PM

    NFL is different because there are only 8 home games for each team. The ticket revenue is important and you need to basically sell out to have the game locally broadcasted on TV or else it’s blacked out. If NFL teams started to noticeably tank, a lot of football stadiums would be empty, and local fans wouldn’t be able to watch.

  21. elyasm says: May 17, 2017 2:15 PM

    No mention of the Suck For Luck campaign, the most blatantly obvious tanked season in the history of the NFL?

  22. lgbarn says: May 17, 2017 2:15 PM

    I really like Mark Cuban because he really does see the big picture. That being said, just shut up already. We all know teams tank and for good reason, but you don’t need to verbalize it.

  23. santamoss says: May 17, 2017 2:16 PM

    If it is not against the rules then it is a competitive advantage and any owner would be smart to follow suit. If we are talking about a quality product, well teams in a position to tank are already in a place where the product is not quality, so as a fan I would rather see my team take whatever steps it needs to get the best players and improve. If the league has an issue with this, then the league should make it against the rules.

  24. thegronk87 says: May 17, 2017 2:16 PM

    They did- they’re called the 2011 indianapolis colts.

  25. dumdolt says: May 17, 2017 2:17 PM

    #suck4luck

  26. thirdistheworrd says: May 17, 2017 2:17 PM

    If a good guy like Adam Silver can rig the NBA draft so egregiously, imagine what fun Goodell would have with his draft “lottery”.

  27. kemp13 says: May 17, 2017 2:17 PM

    “The only way to completely eliminate the temptation is to put all 20 non-playoff teams in the hopper with equal chances for the first overall pick”

    Yeah, that makes sense. Let’s give a team on the cusp of the playoffs an equal shot at the #1 pick as a team that truly is bad. If the lottery isn’t weighted, it is useless.

  28. Alf Goodall says: May 17, 2017 2:18 PM

    Open draft of all non playoff teams or draft in order of finish with SB winner picking first. And if anyone says that creates an imbalance in play, I respond with “see Cleveland, Washington, Detroit, Buffalo, and other perpetually crummy teams or Pittsburgh, New England, Green Bay and other perpetually competitive teams and explain how they do that given where they typically draft year in and year out”.

  29. The Phantom Stranger says: May 17, 2017 2:18 PM

    I think the NFL is doing just fine without a draft lottery. One of the major reasons for the NFL’s success is the parity that allows bad teams to get better quickly. If Cleveland and Denver have an equal chance at the #1 pick, it will be a lot harder to maintain that parity.

    With the NBA, you know which teams are going to be in the Finals before the season even starts. Personally, I don’t find that to be very entertaining.

  30. pocketfudge says: May 17, 2017 2:18 PM

    I don’t know. Let’s ask the Colts.

  31. exhelodrvr says: May 17, 2017 2:19 PM

    “The only way to completely eliminate the temptation is to put all 20 non-playoff teams”

    Still doesn’t remove the temptation. Most of the time, the teams in the running for the last couple of playoff spots know that they have no chance at winning the title, so they would be better off in the long run to not make the playoffs.

    The only way to COMPLETELY eliminate the temptation would be to put ALL the teams in the hopper for position in the draft.

  32. zwakblog says: May 17, 2017 2:20 PM

    You mean like Tampa Bay did to get Jamis Winston??

  33. sdelmonte says: May 17, 2017 2:20 PM

    One other to get rid of tanking: get rid of the draft. But that would probably never happen.

  34. nfloracle says: May 17, 2017 2:20 PM

    The owners should jump on this idea of a lottery. They could hold it in the SuperDome and charge fans $250 each to watch Goodell pull a numbered ball out of a hat. What’s 80,000 times $250? Darn, that’s a cool $200 million extra for the billionaires to divvy up!

  35. intrafinesse says: May 17, 2017 2:21 PM

    It’s just a matter of time until NFL teams begin tanking.

    It’s one thing to be poorly run for years, it’s another thing to deliberately play to lose, but it’s a fine line.
    How can you prove that a coach played a player or didn’t play another to tank, as opposed to developing them.
    I think it;s too hard to prove.
    A lottery would fix that.
    Maybe for the top 3-5 picks, sort of how the NBA does it.
    Then there won’t be incentive to go 0-16 when another team is going 2-14.

  36. jagmankane says: May 17, 2017 2:23 PM

    Clots did it perfectly by sticking with Painter for the majority of a season and nabbed Luck…

    Too bad their GM hasn’t put much around Luck save for a few wideouts

  37. stexan says: May 17, 2017 2:23 PM

    You mean like “Suck for Luck”?
    Never happen.

  38. Jeff Williams says: May 17, 2017 2:24 PM

    The still San Diego-based LA Chargers very likely tanked last year. The inept handling of the Joey Bosa signing? The lack of offensive line talent, knowing how bad their left and right tackles were? Even the team’s lack of fan outreach could lead one to believe that they were tanking every effort to be good and maintain support for an owner who had already tried to move once before being denied for a year by the league.

  39. wisconsinsoccer says: May 17, 2017 2:24 PM

    Would there be the same outrage if Cuban simply said we wanted to play younger guys to see what they are capable of instead of saying they tanked? I think it makes a ton of sense to do what they did for a multitude of reasons. Cuban is not smart for coming and saying they “tanked”.

  40. spungy says: May 17, 2017 2:26 PM

    What did the Browns do to you?

  41. sportoficionado says: May 17, 2017 2:26 PM

    who cares if they say it? remember suck for luck? it is obvious when teams do it–and I fully believe that no team should be rewarded for purposely or otherwise losing (nba is the worst culprit), maybe consider making teams ineligible to pick in the top 5 in consecutive drafts.

  42. walker1191 says: May 17, 2017 2:27 PM

    Unless it was New England, no one would give a crap.

  43. kifleheimer says: May 17, 2017 2:28 PM

    1: The Colts owner bragged on Twitter he was tanking for Luck.

    2: The browns blatantly and obviously tanked last season. In fact they consulted with the 76ers GM that was infamous for tanking to gain draft position prior to the start of last season.

    3: This lottery idea for draft position is one of the dumbest NFL ideas in history. Yeah, watching playoff teams on Goodells pets list get top 5 positioning to reload every year will TOTALLY increase ratings… Not.

  44. guyjuneguyjune says: May 17, 2017 2:32 PM

    Goodell and the NFL are on their way to destroying the INTEGRITY of the game by allowing teams to re-locate (several times) because municipalities don’t have the money to build billion dollar stadiums for NFL owners. The now Carson City team built a fan base over nearly 60 years and they’ve moved to L-a-L-a-Land with no fan base and a dim future for building one. Too many other attractions there fighting for the entertainment dollar. Cali is brokee as well, with ever rising taxes to support welfare programs and the state employees cradle to grave pension plans. The Las Vegas organization is bad news. They expect raider fans to keep shelling out money for games to watch a lame-duck team. Davis is laughing all the way to the bank. Kroenke hasn’t said a word since he stabbed the St Louis fans in the back. He’s busy building a monument to himself with his wifes Walmart fortune. Guess who’s next? It’s BUFFALO to San Antonio. Buffalo fans don’t have the billion to build a covered stadium. New York state is heavily over-taxed. The NFL integrity is slowly crumbling.

  45. MeSoProudy says: May 17, 2017 2:32 PM

    What really matters is what’s going on with Kaep today?

  46. letsthinkthroughthistogether says: May 17, 2017 2:34 PM

    #SuckForLuck?

  47. jerrysbrother says: May 17, 2017 2:34 PM

    Yep you keep suggesting things that kill the history of the game. Shame on you.

  48. billjones383 says: May 17, 2017 2:34 PM

    Well the Colts all but admitted to tanking for Luck. But, the funny part is that it hasn’t helped them long term.

  49. winningisabrees says: May 17, 2017 2:35 PM

    Suck for Luck

  50. jbraider says: May 17, 2017 2:38 PM

    I wonder if Mark Cuban’s parents didn’t pay him enough attention as a kid. He seems to have low self-esteem and a pathological need to draw attention to himself.

    But as for a draft lottery, maybe it might be worth thinking about for the non-playoff teams in the first round, with the remaining rounds reverting to a picking order determined by record. In the Tampa/NO game you cited, for example, the Bucs could afford to piss off their fans by throwing a game, knowing that it would allow them to bring a local sports legend in to captain the team.

    And, after all, how much better is the first pick in the second round from the 3rd or 4th?

    Also I want to add that giving the Chicago and Washington trades for Trubisky and RGIII (and you can add the Rams trade for Goff) is a little unfair. You have to figure that in any given year, the overwhelming majority of teams will never be as stupid as that.

  51. ctiggs says: May 17, 2017 2:40 PM

    – The Browns have been tanking for years.

  52. bobl242 says: May 17, 2017 2:41 PM

    Irsay and the Colts. Everyone knows that story.

  53. mmmpierogi says: May 17, 2017 2:41 PM

    Rarely, however, does a team owner admit to tanking.

    ************************************************************************

    Except when a team’s owner thanks Maurice Jones-Drew for rushing for 169 yards against owners’ own team and, thus, securing the #1 pick for Luck.

  54. jbelkin says: May 17, 2017 2:45 PM

    didn’t the colts tank to get LUCK?

  55. wildfan13 says: May 17, 2017 2:46 PM

    A draft lottery is garbage. See NY/ Ewing and Cleveland/LeBron for results that just seem to magically happen.

  56. thefirstsmilergrogan says: May 17, 2017 2:49 PM

    you don’t devise a solution to a problem that doesn’t exist. the lousy teams need better players, and the nfl offers the closest thing to parity between teams of the major sports. the cap also serves to keep things relatively even.

    if it ain’t broke……………..

  57. kwjsb says: May 17, 2017 2:51 PM

    I would like to put together a class action suit for Mav’s fans that purchased tickets expecting their team to try and win.

  58. perkjctc says: May 17, 2017 2:52 PM

    So you’re trying to tell me the Browns weren’t openly tanking this season? Or the Colts didn’t tank for Andrew Luck? Tanking happens all the time in the NFL, it just isn’t talked about as much as in the NBA. I would much rather have the NFL system of draft position based on season record rather than the rigged lottery system of the NBA. At least we know this is somewhat legit.

  59. bigbluedeadhead says: May 17, 2017 2:53 PM

    How about this, make the non -playoff team pick first based on BEST record picking first, then playoff teams go w/ worst record going first.

  60. mykpfsu says: May 17, 2017 2:56 PM

    Don’t know if the Bucs are a good example. Double digit lead, last game of the season? Why not play younger players and see what you have?

  61. 49ersfury says: May 17, 2017 2:56 PM

    Mark Cuban should buy the Bills or Jags and
    Move them to Oakland.

  62. zaphod424242 says: May 17, 2017 2:58 PM

    You’re suggesting this isn’t already happening.

  63. jonwill57 says: May 17, 2017 2:58 PM

    Cuban is lying and insulting the integrity of his players.

  64. rdrllldubk says: May 17, 2017 2:59 PM

    Keep it the same, the NBA lottery system is terrible!

  65. RussianBreadMaker says: May 17, 2017 3:00 PM

    NFL is the gold standard when it comes to sports entertainment. The NBA might be able to reach the pinnacle once again if they can eliminate the awful way that every game ends (intentional fouls) and increase the amount of violence. Just my opinion.

  66. usa98j30t4 says: May 17, 2017 3:03 PM

    What do you mean? It’s already happened. The Colts did it to get Luck. No question.

  67. monarch76 says: May 17, 2017 3:08 PM

    The NFL would rig the draft lottery. Terrible idea. The current system does a good job of helping bad teams reload in the NFL. Of course teams tank. Ever seen an NBA team go winless? Happens in the NFL.

  68. taeh324 says: May 17, 2017 3:11 PM

    The NFL have been doing well throughout their history without a lottery. If you think implication a draft lottery will prevent tanking in the NFL then sorry to say you’re being dumb. Even now in the NBA with the lottery teams still tank 5x more than teams in the NFL. The 76ers tanked for what 4 years, the Lakers were clearly trying to tank late last season, the Mavericks, Kings, and more times then not every team in the lottery.

  69. harrisonhits2 says: May 17, 2017 3:12 PM

    “The ticket revenue is important and you need to basically sell out to have the game locally broadcasted on TV or else it’s blacked out.”

    Blackouts went away a couple years ago. No game is blacked out anymore.

    Also, the ticket revenue is a small drop in the bucket at this point. That vast majority of all NFL revenue is from the TV contracts.  Of course the owners want every last penny but its a very small portion of the whole.

  70. kevpft says: May 17, 2017 3:12 PM

    This is where sports teams forget that their purpose is entertainment events, not their individual success within the league.

    One could try to argue that a team makes itself more entertaining by acquiring better players and becoming more competitive, but if tanking is the method, then you’re pretty much committing fraud on every paying customer up to the point when you become competitive again.

  71. ncfloyd says: May 17, 2017 3:14 PM

    The bad teams getting marginally better talent in the draft doesn’t seem to help them offset the lesson they teach the team that winning is not important. That’s why so many 4-12 teams draft high and then go 3-13 the next year. The would be better off creating a competitive atmosphere.

  72. ncfloyd says: May 17, 2017 3:18 PM

    If they would change the draft order than make it based on the earliest team being mathematically eliminated. Out in week 10 gets first pick. If two out in week 11, then whichever wins the most over the remaining games moves to higher pick.

  73. fjw2 says: May 17, 2017 3:21 PM

    ctiggs says:
    May 17, 2017 2:40 PM
    – The Browns have been tanking for years.
    —————–

    And look how much all those first round picks have turned things around for them. Not!

    In general, people put way too much value to an unproven college player picked early in the draft. Of course they looked good in college. The were playing against other college players, the vast majority of whom are not good enough to make the practice squad on a pro team.

  74. anarchopurplism says: May 17, 2017 3:24 PM

    Draft Lottery in the NFL?

    Well that’s a thought! We could eliminate some of the teams possibly tanking.

    Those boys on Park Ave would NEVER game the draft lottery. No, no way. Integrity of the Game and all.

    Just look at David Stern & the NBA! Nothing weird has ever happened there at all!

  75. curtj5 says: May 17, 2017 3:25 PM

    It takes some balls to come out and say it

  76. jacksquat99 says: May 17, 2017 3:26 PM

    Better question is, whether getting the first pick in the draft is more helpful to NBA teams than it is to NFL teams.

  77. cardinealsfan20 says: May 17, 2017 3:26 PM

    Complaining about tanking equates to insulting fans’ intelligence. Smart fans want their teams to tank if the playoffs are unattainable. Intelligent fans understand that meaninglessness wins are bad for draft position.

  78. dietrich43 says: May 17, 2017 3:28 PM

    “And the first pick in the draft goes to… the New York Jets! For the fifth year in a row. What are the odds?”

    No lottery. Coaches and players want to win out of pride and to keep a job. GM’s are supposed to handle the long term planning, and not managing the game to undermine the effort. Why do you think Ray Farmer got suspended?

  79. buffnaked says: May 17, 2017 3:29 PM

    “ncfloyd says:
    May 17, 2017 3:18 PM

    If they would change the draft order than make it based on the earliest team being mathematically eliminated. Out in week 10 gets first pick. If two out in week 11, then whichever wins the most over the remaining games moves to higher pick.”

    Good idea. My idea is similar in that once you are mathimatically eliminated from the playoffs every win counts as a loss and every loss counts as a win. Teams and fan interests would always be alligned. I would be more likely to go cheer for a win week 17 if I knew my team could get the #1 pick if they won.

  80. mmack66 says: May 17, 2017 3:32 PM

    bighoser says:
    May 17, 2017 1:56 PM

    Look for the Niners and Browns to do this to get a shot at one of the Big 3 QBs coming out next year.
    ————————–

    How would you even know if either of those losers were tanking the season?

    It would be hard to lose less games than they already do.

  81. akira1971 says: May 17, 2017 3:34 PM

    NFL players don’t tank – their career is too short. By the time a football draft pick is at an all-pro level in a couple of years, the existing players are mostly gone by then.

    They’re also fighting for their jobs. Don’t perform well and it’s more likely they’ll be cut the next year. NFL players don’t have guaranteed contracts.

  82. snoop0323 says: May 17, 2017 3:37 PM

    The best way to do it would be to give the 1st overall pick to the non playoff team with the best record and work backwards, with the worst team in the league getting the 20th pick. Terrible teams should not be rewarded for being terrible.

    This would also completely eliminate tanking.

  83. akira1971 says: May 17, 2017 3:38 PM

    akira1971 says:

    They’re also fighting for their jobs. Don’t perform well and it’s more likely they’ll be cut the next year. NFL players don’t have guaranteed contracts.
    ————

    Look at the 2011–2012 Colts: 18 players cut/left, fired coaching staff and GM, etc. Don’t tell me these guys tried to tank the 2011 season.

  84. sumkat says: May 17, 2017 3:43 PM

    It’s happened in the NFL, the Colts for Luck being the most obvious recent example, it’s just less frequent. Mainly because the only position that you MUST have a franchise QB, and it’s rare that a guy is labeled as a sure fire franchise guy more than a year before he is nfl bound. In the long run, who cares if they publicly admit it when everyone knows it happened? You don’t need to admit it, we saw it play out live

    The reset of the roster, you don’t really have to have “star” players, it’s more important to have guys that fit your system. In the NBA, it’s not possible to compete without at least on star player, in today’s climate, it’s not possible to compete for a title without multiple. But that has more to do with the way the NBA is officiated, and to a lesser extent the nature of the game itself only having 5 players as opposed to 22

  85. tonebones says: May 17, 2017 3:45 PM

    I agree with Florio. All 20 in the hopper. The same for the NFL.

  86. sumkat says: May 17, 2017 3:46 PM

    akira1971 says:
    May 17, 2017 3:34 PM
    NFL players don’t tank – their career is too short. By the time a football draft pick is at an all-pro level in a couple of years, the existing players are mostly gone by then.

    They’re also fighting for their jobs. Don’t perform well and it’s more likely they’ll be cut the next year. NFL players don’t have guaranteed contracts.

    ____________

    NBA players don’t tank. The team tanks. They play younger, less skilled and experienced players, and push older, better more experienced players to the bench. In more drastic cases, they put a team together that just can’t win on a regular basis

    Players don’t tank, coaches don’t tank. Front offices do tank

  87. mmack66 says: May 17, 2017 3:48 PM

    All you have to do is look at the Browns and the Patriots to know that draft position has absolutely nothing to do with the success of a team.

  88. clemenza58 says: May 17, 2017 3:54 PM

    Poor Dallas. They have to deal with both Jerry Jones and Mark Cuban. LOL.

  89. whispersd says: May 17, 2017 3:57 PM

    The NFL could just use a rotating draft order that has nothing to do with team record. Why not? It’s pretty clear that few perennially losing times have the institutional intelligence to be able to translate earlier draft picks into greater success. What ends up happening is that best college players end up stuck on terrible teams who don’t know what they’re doing, with the rare exception as in the year of “Suck for Luck”, in which a franchise that is usually successful openly starts throwing games in order to get a choice draft position.

  90. bigbenisabigbaby says: May 17, 2017 3:59 PM

    “The difference between 6-10, 5-11, 4-12, and 3-13 is meaningless in the standings. In the draft order, however, the worse the record the better the spot.”
    —————————————————-
    Ha! Many years, 6-10 would earn you a playoff spot in the NFCS.

  91. bkostela says: May 17, 2017 4:01 PM

    “Suck for Luck” sounded catchy, but the Colts were downright awful without PM. Unlike when Tom Brady went down and the Pats were still 11-5, Peyton WAS the Colts offense (the Colts had no defense to begin with).

  92. bigbenisabigbaby says: May 17, 2017 4:05 PM

    I propose that all U.S. citizens making under $10M/year receive government assistance. That way the 99%ers have the best chance at financial success. Those making $11M+ are already rich enough.

  93. edgerules says: May 17, 2017 4:06 PM

    This, from an NBA owner who sided with Goodell during the Deflategate witch hunt, er, scandal. #Hypocrite

  94. pastabelly says: May 17, 2017 4:06 PM

    The Jets will be tanking for Darnold this season.

  95. mmack66 says: May 17, 2017 4:12 PM

    cardinealsfan20 says:
    May 17, 2017 3:26 PM

    Complaining about tanking equates to insulting fans’ intelligence. Smart fans want their teams to tank if the playoffs are unattainable. Intelligent fans understand that meaninglessness wins are bad for draft position.
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    Smart and intelligent fans are fans of the Patriots, and know that draft position means very little.

    They also know that the Patriots will be picking up a lot of those high draft choices later on for pennies on the dollar.

  96. bannedfromchoirpractice says: May 17, 2017 4:13 PM

    Cuban was simply pointing out, to those who don’t understand, that the process is broken and needs to be fixed.

    The squeaky wheel gets the grease. A smoking wheel gets an entire makeover.

    The bumpkins can criticize him with their lame accusations all they want. (Like he cares.)

  97. QB Film Room says: May 17, 2017 4:13 PM

    Would never happen in NFL, singular players matter MUCH more in Basketball than Football. Football is the most commoditized players in all of sports!

  98. sfsaintsfan says: May 17, 2017 4:23 PM

    A draft lottery would be a terrible idea. There is a huge difference between a team that goes 10-6 and just misses the playoffs and the Cleveland Browns. The 10-6 team should not get a chance to draft at the #1 spot at all.

    Under the current system, “maybe” two instances of NFL teams tanking, and that was to try and get the #1 overall pick when those teams needed a franchise QB. To change the draft system for two possible instances of tanking would be crazy. For every Luck there is a JaMarcus, you just don’t know which one you picked until 2-3 years after the draft.

  99. grogantomorgan says: May 17, 2017 4:58 PM

    Suck for Luck !!

  100. robigd says: May 17, 2017 5:04 PM

    That speaks volumes about Cuban’s integrity and the integrity of the NBA overall.

    #notsurprised
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    Oh yeah, the NFL is just oozing with integrity.

  101. buckybadger says: May 17, 2017 5:04 PM

    usa98j30t4 says:
    May 17, 2017 3:03 PM
    What do you mean? It’s already happened. The Colts did it to get Luck. No question.

    —————————————

    No they didn’t. That was a made up story that only fools believe. Who did the thanking for the Colts? The Coach who got fired? Or was it the GM that was fired and hurt the career of both of his sons? Who ordered said tanking? If you watched the end of the season the team wasn’t tanking.

  102. townie45 says: May 17, 2017 5:18 PM

    Mr. Cuban ; you can compete , win , get to the Eastern Finals and still get the #1 pick. Just look at the 17 time World Champion Boston Celtics.

  103. xavier179 says: May 17, 2017 5:19 PM

    Mark, it has been done, did you forget the Suck for Luck shenanigans that the Colts pulled years ago?

  104. finnymcphin says: May 17, 2017 5:29 PM

    The Bucs?? That’s who you are going with as an example in the NFL?

  105. egomaniac247 says: May 17, 2017 5:30 PM

    I agree about soccers relegation….finish last and youre demoted to the minor leagues.

    Alabama vs Cleveland in the BCS championship!

  106. llcamino says: May 17, 2017 5:38 PM

    If the NFL wants more games they could simply make a draft playoff. 2 or 3 rounds during the regular playoffs. Bottom 8 teams play a tournament. Winner gets 1st pick. It would give the league the extra games it wants. The draft championship game could be the week in between the conference championship games and Superbowl instead of the meaningless pro bowl. Pay playoff bonuses and everyone wins.

  107. avenger9800 says: May 17, 2017 5:46 PM

    Don’t tell me that the Browns tanked last season. The only reason a team would tank is for the best QB, and Cleveland had 3 picks in the first round and didn’t select a QB. What really happened last season in Cleveland was terrible play by the right side of their offensive line and a defense that was below average of a triple A high school team.

  108. dbarnes67 says: May 17, 2017 5:53 PM

    Want fair? End the draft and allow free market hiring. The salary cap would keep the playing field level.

  109. alonestartexan says: May 17, 2017 6:24 PM

    Well.. I’m sure Goodell would LOVE to have an NFL special at primetime to make the lottery selections..

  110. baldbuc says: May 17, 2017 6:29 PM

    The Bucs pulled all of their starters except Josh McCown. Which makes you wonder why Lovie Smith was starting McCown all season when Glennon had outplayed him. That last game proved that Lovie knew that McCown gave him the best chance to lose.

  111. hescominsoon says: May 17, 2017 7:16 PM

    so you have no chance of making the playoffs..so why put your high priced starters out there at all? put the second the third stringers in..give them some experience…i see nothing wrong with this.

  112. ak185 says: May 17, 2017 7:25 PM

    And still, Pats fans manage to find a way to make this about themselves.

  113. factpurveyor says: May 17, 2017 8:01 PM

    Maybe the same Colts staffer who masterminded the Suck for Luck campaign also sucked the air out of the Colts footballs during the famous Framegate game.

    That would explain why the Colts footballs also had below regulation PSI numbers when they were measured. That was even after the NFL officials allowed the 4 Colts footballs to warm up indoors while they were busy measuring all 11 of the Patriots footballs 2 times each.

    Not alternating the measurements between footballs belonging to both teams should have been enough to invalidate the results of the test….unless someone was seeking a foregone conclusion.

    Keep in mind that the NFL also hid the PSI measurements that were collected during the 2015 NFL season for a reason.

    Its now obvious that the measurements didn’t support that forgone conclusion. Then again, how could they?…the PSI measurements would have had to contradict science were they to agree with the NFL.

  114. factpurveyor says: May 17, 2017 8:07 PM

    robigd says:
    May 17, 2017 5:04 PM

    Oh yeah, the NFL is just oozing with integrity.

    ———————————————————-
    You really needed a sarcasm font for that comment.

    Considering that the NFL is still refusing to show fans of the NFL the PSI information that was collected during the 2015 NFL season.

    It’s really deceitful and dishonest that the NFL would hide that PSI information from fans of the NFL so soon after 2014 … which is when Roger Goodell pledged more transparency.

    Continuing to hide that 2015 PSI information from fans of the NFL demonstrates just how disingenuous Roger Goodell was in 2015… when Roger Goodell said that “the integrity of the game is the most important thing”.

  115. TheWizard says: May 17, 2017 8:46 PM

    Hasn’t worked out for the Colts. There must be some curse associated with it or something.

  116. TheBrownswillstinkagain says: May 17, 2017 9:00 PM

    The Browns tank every year and their myopic fans think the owner cares about winning.

    Browns fans arent too bright

  117. ibillwt says: May 17, 2017 10:39 PM

    whether Roger Goodell would regard such behavior as a threat to the integrity of his game
    —————————–

    when did football become “his” game? Goodell has shown repeatedly that integrity is not “his” priority. A disgraceful clown.

  118. pancaketaco says: May 18, 2017 11:00 AM

    Since the NFL has gotten to the point that creating TV ratings is their #1 objective, then they should throw all the non-playoff teams in a hopper but they should do it the 1st day of the draft then come back the next day and start picking….now that will create ratings…

    If the NFL doesn’t like where a pick lands then go NBA and put a gun to the head of that team and force a trade…Still scratching my head why Charlotte would draft day trade Kobe.

  119. usedjock says: May 19, 2017 2:55 PM

    I completely disagree that an NFL draft lottery would be good for business. One of the things that makes the NFL 5000 times better for me than the NBA is the draft process the NFL has.

    Sure I am not naïve enough to think that tanking doesn’t happen but I also don’t think it is as obvious as the NBA system.

    Oh and if a team is tanking I am sure fans would get discounted tickets because my team isn’t trying right? oh wait..

  120. anthonyfromstatenisland says: May 19, 2017 6:04 PM

    For literally decades I have advocated using each team’s record over the past THREE seasons to determine draft order, because a team should not be rewarded for having injuries, as the Cowboys were in the 2016 draft – in terms of pure talent, was Dallas the fourth worst team in the NFL as of the end of the 2015 season? Not a chance. If two or more teams tie in record over the last three years, the last two years is used, and if a tie still exists, the last year.

    This both solves this problem and nips tanking in the bud.

  121. fmc651 says: May 21, 2017 10:11 AM

    Indianapolis Colts already did it too. Suck for Luck.
    While I thought the Colts should have been punished. I do not want a phony lottery like the rigged NBA has to prevent this. Because it doesn’t.

  122. aj66shanghai says: May 24, 2017 2:17 AM

    If the NFL actually adopted all your goofball ideas like this, and overtime shootouts, and all the rest, the game would be unrecognizable and quite awful.

    NFL is king for a reason. NBA is looking toward China because they are losing US fans every day. I’ve watched two games in the last 9 years: Game 7 of finals last year, and one other game 7 a couple years back. And neither of those did much other than remind me why I stopped caring.

    Tanking isn’t a problem in the NFL. Stop rabble-rousing please, we get enough of that already these days.

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