Packers fight in OTAs, which could be a bad sign

AP

This time of year, contact in practice is supposed to be a no-no, but a pair of Packers were definitely putting hands on each other, which could be trouble for the team.

According to Michael Cohen of the Milwaukee Journal Sentinel, a fight broke out during the Packers’ Organized Team Activity session yesterday.

Offensive tackle Jason Spriggs and undrafted rookie linebacker Johnathan Calvin went at it during team drills, with the two players “swinging wildly at each other’s heads.”

Multiple punches were thrown and they ended up on the ground before teammates and coaches broke them up. These things usually get passed off as boys-being-boys, and Spriggs gave the obligatory “Once you step on the field again there’s nothing after that,” quote.

But the NFL and the NFLPA might not agree.

A practice fight sparked the investigation into the Seahawks which led to the loss of OTA time and a heavy fine. A subsequent violation cost them a draft pick as well.

The CBA prohibits live contact during voluntary workouts.

“Voluntary off-season workout programs are intended to provide training, teaching and physical conditioning for players,” it reads. “The intensity and tempo of drills should be at a level conducive to learning, with player safety as the highest priority, and not at a level where one player is in a physical contest with another player.”

So while the fight between the players might be over, the bigger issue may just be beginning.

84 responses to “Packers fight in OTAs, which could be a bad sign

  1. You mean the Packers might be cheating?? Perish the thought! Not the Packers, America’s team. The team of integrity, character and morality. Not that team.

    LOL…they ALL DO IT!!

  2. Coach that no player respects (and why would they?) in charge of a team coasting on past glories from the black & white TV era while riding their talented but insufferable sociopath QB into retirement.

  3. I love stats. Does anyone have any stats on how often fighting at OTA’s results in league punishment? I’m guessing it’s less than 1%.

  4. Practice was open to the public as well so if the Packers were in violation – it would be easy to verify. No verification given. Soooo yeah q- no violation happened.

  5. What a load of hogwash, according to the players at the scene, the fight started because it was a non contact drill where one player bull-rushed the offensive tackle which was against the rules.

    This article suggests that the Packers could lose a draft pick because one single player on one single drill decide to make contact with another player. What’s next, the Vikings are going to win the Superbowl? Both have the same chance of happening.

  6. Two backups go a flailing
    Now the NFL goes to wailing.
    Apparently there’s nothing to do this off-season day
    when they have to levy fines during OTA’s.

  7. Undrafted Rookie LB trying to show what he’s got.

    OT taking exception.

    Nothing more than that. Let them police that stuff in house.

    CMON MAN. Sheesh.

  8. Every year we’re reminded that these NFL players are basically kids. I’m 30 and cannot imagine having a disagreement with a coworker that ends in a fist fight. Time to grow up Peter Pan

  9. There’s nothing wrong with that as long as they didn’t kill each other… shows they care.

  10. Some kid wants to draw attention on a crowded stage and make name for himself. Big deal.

    There’s nothing here……unless you’re throwing Packer hate-bait to the Viking trolls for their daily feeding frenzy.

  11. Meh. Every year people try to push the narrative that the Packers are on the decline and every year they wind up in the playoffs. I don’t see any reason to expect anything different this year.

  12. It’s a bad sign alright – for the rest of the league.

    Each practice rep takes on incredible significance when you play for the most important franchise in the history of the NFL. The Packers championship legacy is undeniable, and everyone in the organization bears the weight of lofty aspirations.

    Let put this another way. 8-8 is not an option in Green Bay.

  13. “…The bigger issue may just be beginning.”

    Nonsense. This issue has been present for at least 270 billion years. It’s called survival of the fittest.

    You put individuals in close proximity and tell them only half will end up with a job and that will depend to a large extent on who is the most aggressive, of course there is going to be violence.

    Yes we have progressed in the last 2,000 years in that our thumbs up or down no longer determine the survival of the players. But just writing a little section in the NFL policy manual or posting a holier than thou blog post, isn’t going to change our nature.

  14. That was the whole reason for the fight. The one guy was pissed guess the one guy had physical contact with him when he was suppose to.

    Im sure the FA was trying to make a statement, but probably will find himself cut shortly.

  15. Can’t imagine anything other this story causing a feeding frenzy by the purple skirt wearing, lunatic skoltroll sewing circle.

  16. filthymcnasty3 says:
    Jun 2, 2017 8:58 AM
    It’s a bad sign alright – for the rest of the league.

    Each practice rep takes on incredible significance when you play for the most important franchise in the history of the NFL. The Packers championship legacy is undeniable, and everyone in the organization bears the weight of lofty aspirations.

    Let put this another way. 8-8 is not an option in Green Bay.

    ———————

    It was in the 1970s, 80s and early 90s.

  17. Fire MM!!! We will continue to waste Rodgers and Matthews as long as we have McCarthy as head coach. TT takes too long to build the pieces around these guys, but we have had multiple opportunities to go to Super Bowl in past few years. Can never get over that hump because in the big games we get mauled or at the end just can’t finish because we are predictable. MM is riding the coat-tails of Rodgers and Favre before him. Not a good head coach, just lucky to have gotten a job with Green Bay and those QB’s.

  18. This isn’t cheating as one of the posters indicates. It is a fight. No one authorized the contact, and quite frankly if anyone outside of these two people gets punished by the Packers themselves this is just another example of justice gone awry. It’s time for the NFL and the NFLPA to stop being so draconian and ridiculous. They are both laughingstocks in my book.

  19. Good as a Packers fan I like seeing intensity and a mood of getting after it from this our team.

    Now I will say I would love to see that much fight and intensity from the defense.

  20. Dang the MN fans are positively orgasmic over this one. Don’t get excited boys, you’ll still finish in third place. Nasty comments though. Years of frustration has really gotten to you guys.

  21. This very well may be the biggest fight you’ll see out of the lifeless Packers all year long.

  22. The Seahawks were fined because they were running “aggressive” practices when it was supposed to be a “relaxed” non-contact practice. Fights happen every year and on every team. You have 90 men fighting for a job, things get heated. Hell, teams have had full on brawls in combined practices and there was no investigation.

  23. Every year almost every team has at least 1 fight during OTAs and or camp.

    Every year PFT acts like these are some sort of national crisis.

    You have aggressive young men working to get jobs that will pay over half a million a year minimum even for an undrafted rookie if they make the roster, and for many players much more money than that.

    This is normal, not anything unusual.

  24. Nothing will happen from this, the Packers are part of the “golden team” group with the Giants, Ravens, and Steelers. Patriots or Seahawks they would lose more picks.

  25. Good thing the staff kept these boys hydrated so they were able to survive camp at least.

  26. There will be no fine or any issue on this.
    It’s the Packers. They have a “get out of jail free card” with the league on everything. You know, the one where one team gets penalized for making a snowflake, while no penalty is called on the packers for making a snowflake.

    I’m waiting for a packer fan to claim that this fight will be the trigger that gets them another preseason super bowl.

  27. 4sacroc says:
    Jun 2, 2017 8:11 AM
    This is lunacy.

    They’re turning the game into a pillow fight.

    ===========================

    Go out and take just one hit, just one, even from the kicker, and get back to us lil snowflake on that pillow fight.

  28. “Voluntary off-season workout programs are intended to provide training, teaching and physical conditioning for players,” it reads. “The intensity and tempo of drills should be at a level conducive to learning, with player safety as the highest priority, and not at a level where one player is in a physical contest with another player.”

    No wonder why the quality of play is going downhill. Offensive lines can’t block, defenders can’t tackle. This CBA is an abomination.

  29. Probably a cheese curd rolling around on the field somewhere. What looked like a fight was actually a bunch of Wisconsin residents pecking for cheese crumbs.

  30. truthbetold109 says:
    Jun 2, 2017 10:57 AM
    Happens with all teams. Watch hard knocks.

    Meanwhile in MN, the O-Line is giving each other facials and are talking about people they think are cute.

    7 6
    Report comment

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    …Better than GB players getting facials FROM the people they think are cute.

  31. Nothing to see here. Just another Packer trying to act tough, just like their fans. Looks like it’s time for McCarthy to schedule another trip to the bowling alley.

  32. Jdog63 says:
    Jun 2, 2017 7:26 AM
    Nah.
    “You mad bro?” ’cause they won’t hire your man Kap?

    I was thinking along the same lines. Florio probably thinks all would be fine in Packerland if only they would sign Kap.

  33. stupid title. I remember Nate Solder going at it in 2012 training camp with Brandon Spikes. Its not out of the realm, guys are out to prove they belong on the field. Ego’s of veterans and the drive/will of UDFA’s usually lead to these deals. Its called COMPETITION.

  34. ariani1985 says:
    Jun 2, 2017 12:46 PM
    got to give the little fellas credit, after getting laughed out of Atlanta i cant believe they would show their faces!

    \\\\\\\\\\\\\\

    I thought the same when they started 5-0 and ended up missing the playoffs…Oh wait…

  35. packmangamble says:
    Jun 2, 2017 8:26 AM

    Let them play and stop being such a pansy league. Fine them because a fight broke out. Let boys be boys. Pffft!!!
    __________________

    It isn’t the NFL or the teams. It’s the NFLPA that’s the cause of this.

  36. ariani1985 says:
    Jun 2, 2017 9:36 AM

    Notice that the big brothers to the west are working hard!

    Yep working hard cleaning out an empty trophy case.

    S – Still
    K – Keep
    O – On
    L – Losing

  37. Only Barneys would think making the AFCC and losing is worse than finishing 3rd in the division.

    Its must be hard getting around that ugly purple stadium when its full of drunken buffoons in Barney suits stumbling around puking all over each other

  38. filthymcnasty3 says:
    Jun 2, 2017 8:58 AM
    It’s a bad sign alright – for the rest of the league.

    Each practice rep takes on incredible significance when you play for the most important franchise in the history of the NFL. The Packers championship legacy is undeniable, and everyone in the organization bears the weight of lofty aspirations.

    Let put this another way. 8-8 is not an option in Green Bay.
    ————————————————–

    How did you travel to see those early championships? There were only 3 choices to get to the game back then; the Nina, the Pinta or the Santa Maria.

  39. Neither of them have made enough of the contribution to the team to be indispensable. They may just find themselves not making the final cut because this has not helped their cases at all.

  40. it’ll be fun to watch them get to the playoffs and lose…again. its like dangling a carrot in front the most delusional (drunk) fan base. but will be it be an epic choke like: 4th and 26? favre interception? 15-1? nfc choke-ionship game? larry fitz? atlanta?

    oh carl, how was houston?

  41. Were they fighting to leave? No one wants to be here in Wisco. Getting kicked off the Packers and signing with another team is what they wanted.

  42. Wisconsin’s Favorite Son Jeffrey Be Dahmed says:
    Jun 2, 2017 7:52 PM
    Were they fighting to leave? No one wants to be here in Wisco. Getting kicked off the Packers and signing with another team is what they wanted.
    ////////////////////////////////////

    You’re one of the dolts that can’t spell Wisconsin apparently.

  43. Wisco is how we residents and true Packers fans refer to our state, unlike some of you who are closet Minnesota fans and wouldn’t understand. Besides, didn’t you notice the long version in my name, stella, the one you used?

  44. There are always fights in OTAs and training camp. Nothing will happen, this is a non-story.

  45. I’d love for somebody to explain how offensive linemen can practice football without contact. This is all nonsensical.

  46. Ah, pity the poor Vikings fans. They are so starved for a championship in any sport, they jump on anything they read which has to do with the Packers.
    This is a complete non-story and it happens all the time with every team. This undrafted kid is trying to make the Packers and he went at it with a little too much enthusiasm. So the veteran “O” lineman took a couple of punches at him and he returned the favor. That’s all there is to it.
    If nothing else, the kid got his name in the papers.
    Too bad his bull rush against the “O” lineman didn’t happen during a game with the Vikings. Because their statue-like QB Sam Bradford would have been on his back with their turnstiles on the “O” line. Heh heh heh.

  47. As a Seahawks fan I understood why they got docked for having aggressive practices; maybe I don’t like the rules, but they are the rules for now so I can’t say it isn’t fair to enforce them.

    This however seems to clearly be an isolated incident of one guy going too hard. It would be beyond absurd to dock the team in any way for that.

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