Mangini hopes to reconcile with Belichick

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Bill Belichick shunned Eric Mangini ten years ago. Mangini still hopes to be un-shunned.

Mangini said Saturday during his annual football camp that he hopes for a reconciliation with his mentor.

I hope it’s something that can come back,” Mangini told Rich Cimini of ESPN. “Look, Bill is a big part of my life. Bill gave me a tremendous opportunity, and I enjoyed that experience, and I respect him. It’s disappointing, the way it’s been. Hopefully, it can change at some point.”

Although problems started when Mangini accepted an offer to become H.C. of the N.Y.J., the relationship became severed once the Jets instigated the Spygate scandal during Week One of the 2007 season.

“It was never supposed to go the way that it went,” Mangini said. “It was more about, ‘Hey, don’t do this here.’ It wasn’t about reporting it. Sometimes things get out of hand and get rolling in one direction. It was never, ever supposed to go that way.”

As the unofficial story goes, Mangini privately told Belichick not to record the Jets’ defensive coaching signals, since Mangini knew that Belichick had a habit of doing that. The theory is that then-G.M. Mike Tannenbaum caught wind of the practice and embarked on an effort to catch the Patriots with their camera in the cookie jar.

Mangini would later coach the Browns, and he has since worked as an assistant with the 49ers. Still 46, Mangini remains available. He recently joined PFT Live to promote the football camp, and to discuss a variety of NFL topics, including the importance of OTAs.

34 responses to “Mangini hopes to reconcile with Belichick

  1. Mangini and Tannenbaum are despicable, unprofessional worms. Betrayal cannot be undone. Mangini’s actions will follow him for the remainder of his life; Mike Tannenbaum has far more to answer for but he seems immune from ethical concerns though he has failed with every team entrusted to him. Belichick has proven that the recording scandal had no impact on the incredible reign of the Patriots while the betrayal destroyed Mangini and his future. When Mangini looks back on his “career” he will see his juvenile action as the single most destestable moment of his life. Belichick may forgive but the fans of the Patriots NEVER will.

  2. i love how
    manboobs admits that he tried to cheat
    the pats by blocking them from filming legally,
    and somehow people still do not want to believe
    the pats were framed

  3. Once again with the sloppy reporting… “Mangini privately told Belichick not to record the Jets’ defensive coaching signals, since Mangini knew that Belichick had a habit of doing that.”

    Is it just me or does this make it sound like it’s illegal to tape defensive signals?

    It is NOT illegal to tape defensive signals just as long as you do it within the “designated area” – which obviously we ignored which lead to the most overblown bs witch hunt in sports history.

    Just ahead of Deflategate.

    Check out wikipedia. Says right there on the first line of the write up – “New England Patriots were disciplined by the league for videotaping New York Jets’ defensive coaches’ signals from an UNAUTHORIZED LOCATION during a September 9, 2007 game.”

    That’s it. Everyone tapes defensive signals. We just choose to ignore a new rule that year and tape from a different area. It was the first quarter of the first game of the year that doing it from a different location was illegal.

    Big deal.

    And no we didn’t tape practices either.

    FACTS.

  4. I blame both spygate and deflategate witchhunts on the media for whipping up hysteria and fanning the flames over nothing. Just like is happening to another patriot President Trump on a daily basis yet patriots of all stripes keep winning.

  5. No question Belichick will not only reconcile any differences but after that probing interview you had with Mangini, Belichick will probably fire Matt Patricia and bring Mangini in as both defensive coordinator and head coach. Powerful stuff right there.

  6. bubfu says:
    Jun 4, 2017 10:40 PM
    Once again with the sloppy reporting… “Mangini privately told Belichick not to record the Jets’ defensive coaching signals, since Mangini knew that Belichick had a habit of doing that.”

    Is it just me or does this make it sound like it’s illegal to tape defensive signals?

    It is NOT illegal to tape defensive signals just as long as you do it within the “designated area” – which obviously we ignored which lead to the most overblown bs witch hunt in sports history.

    Just ahead of Deflategate.

    Check out wikipedia. Says right there on the first line of the write up – “New England Patriots were disciplined by the league for videotaping New York Jets’ defensive coaches’ signals from an UNAUTHORIZED LOCATION during a September 9, 2007 game.”

    That’s it. Everyone tapes defensive signals. We just choose to ignore a new rule that year and tape from a different area. It was the first quarter of the first game of the year that doing it from a different location was illegal.

    Big deal.

    And no we didn’t tape practices either.

    FACTS.

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    An admirable post, bubfu.

    But, I long ago accepted the fact that “spygate” was forever going to be a sh*tty stick that Patriot haters were always going to beat us with to try to undermine the team’s achievements.

    You can point out as many facts about it as you want but the truth is that people will believe what they want to believe, regardless of what the evidence says or what the truth really is.

    Any attempt to explain this is an exercise in wasted breath.

  7. Eric Mangini, truth-teller, was taught as a young man that “Honesty is the Best Policy.”

    “Cheaters never Win, and Winners never Cheat,” was the lesson learned on the playgrounds and fields where Eric Mangini learned the game of Football.

    Later in life– as a leader of young men– Eric Mangini remained true to his principles, and to the lessons he learned from his elders.

    Eric Mangini may in fact be a hiss and a byword to the cynical and self-righteous denizens of “Patriot” nation, but the quiet satisfaction of a clean conscience unquestionably stands as its own reward for Mr Mangini.

  8. Sorry pats nation. As your most avid Denver supporter let’s be honest:
    Belichick could have stopped as the NFL requested or not done soygate they week against the Jets. Mancini had already asked him to stop, and he didn’t.
    And Mancini didn’t want his team to be exploited like that. Where is bills reslonsibility in this to not continue filming.
    It’s a two way streeet but if you were a coach in any league and your ex coach is doing that to you, you would report it.

    All of you diwnvoters are probably the ones that deny the texts admitted as evidence of brady texting a guy called the “deflator” or not able to comprehend that the league told all teams to stop filming, and bill, as he said in the locker room in 07 we went too far”

    Go pats, but the attention they have around controversy is actually WITH real merit.

    Let’s see if a 6th ring further dispels the attention

  9. mzew233 says:
    Jun 5, 2017 2:37 AM
    Sorry pats nation. As your most avid Denver supporter let’s be honest:
    Belichick could have stopped as the NFL requested or not done soygate they week against the Jets. Mancini had already asked him to stop, and he didn’t.
    And Mancini didn’t want his team to be exploited like that. Where is bills reslonsibility in this to not continue filming.
    It’s a two way streeet but if you were a coach in any league and your ex coach is doing that to you, you would report it.
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    What kind of Pats fan are you? I’m not even a Patriots fan, but as a FOOTBALL fan I was offended by SpyGate, and COMPLETELY flabbergasted by DeflateGate. What kind of Dean Wormer witch hunt were they taking us on? The only thing that comes to mind is the NFL as Wile E Coyote, and Belichick as the Roadrunner. Every time there’s some new bogus way to stop him he figures out a way to leave W.E. Coyote looking foolish in his dust. As an NFL fan in general, it made my heart happy to see ‘ol Rodge have to hand the MVP trophy to TB!

  10. “It was more about, ‘Hey, don’t do this here.’ It wasn’t about reporting it.

    Translation: You can cheat, just don’t cheat with me.

  11. I hope Belichick can move on accept Mangini’s apology. If Belichick and Parcells could reconcile, then these two should do the same.

  12. All of you diwnvoters are probably the ones that deny the texts admitted as evidence of brady texting a guy called the “deflator” or not able to comprehend that the league told all teams to stop filming, and bill, as he said in the locker room in 07 we went too far”

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    Brady never texted the guy named “deflator”. But please do continue educating us.

  13. How do we know Brady even texted anybody without his phone?

    Even if we were all to agree the texts pointed to something fishy going on, it does little to change the fact the league failed miserably to prove it. On every level. Just ask Walt Anderson. Oh wait they did and then proceeded to change his mind for him after the fact.

    BTW, nobody is\should be arguing what they did was wrong. The supposed fictional advantage created from it is a completely different story.

  14. This man knows nothing about loyalty… I don’t believe in grudges and I am sure on some level BB is still holding one, but my guess is has has long since moved on.

  15. The filming dust up was just the cherry on top of the betrayal sundae. The mangenius went to the Jets against Belichicks recommendation and was actively recruiting pending FA’s on the Pats flight home from the AFCCG. Fredo Mangini crossed too many lines

  16. bubfu says:
    Jun 4, 2017 10:40 PM
    Once again with the sloppy reporting… “Mangini privately told Belichick not to record the Jets’ defensive coaching signals, since Mangini knew that Belichick had a habit of doing that.”

    Is it just me or does this make it sound like it’s illegal to tape defensive signals?

    It is NOT illegal to tape defensive signals just as long as you do it within the “designated area” – which obviously we ignored which lead to the most overblown bs witch hunt in sports history.

    Just ahead of Deflategate.

    Check out wikipedia. Says right there on the first line of the write up – “New England Patriots were disciplined by the league for videotaping New York Jets’ defensive coaches’ signals from an UNAUTHORIZED LOCATION during a September 9, 2007 game.”

    That’s it. Everyone tapes defensive signals. We just choose to ignore a new rule that year and tape from a different area. It was the first quarter of the first game of the year that doing it from a different location was illegal.

    Big deal.

    And no we didn’t tape practices either.

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    What’s sad is, Mangini tried to use TWO cameras in Foxborough in January of 2007, which was not allowed by the NFL.

    THAT is really what sent Woody Johnson and and Tannenboob into a tizzy.

    So, when BB flipped them the proverbial bird by showcasing their cameran to be SEEN INTENTIONALLY by Woody and Tanneboob up in the booth, Woody and Tannenboob pounced, and enacted the framejob, using words like “caught” and “red handed”, which made no sense since Matt Estrella was in broad daylight with a bright yellow vest on.

    ESPN took the story, helped the Jets frame, and Goodell was off and running using it to take an opportunity to curry favor with owners and at the same time, try to knock NE down a peg for parity purposes, as it was his job to grow the league which is also meant doing whatever he needed to do (including lying to the NFL customer apparently), to accomplish what he needed to keep his job and collect his 40 million per year.

    I’d rather believe quality human beings like Chuck Knox, Bud Grant, Bill Cowher, Parcells, etc, on the truth as opposed to believe Goodell and those owners who lied and continue to lie to pump an agenda.

    But, what Mangini did to use BB to get a promotion with the Jets, as he tried to steal info off laptops out the door, with half the staff? That will never be forgiven, nor should it be.

    What an awful way to repay a mentor.

  17. pastabelly says:
    Jun 5, 2017 9:05 AM
    I hope Belichick can move on accept Mangini’s apology. If Belichick and Parcells could reconcile, then these two should do the same.

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    Umm, Parcells and BB never really had a problem with one another. Parcells was clearly jealous of BB, sure.

    Parcells was/is jealous of BB. That’s about it.

    Go back to the Giants sideline clips of BB pointing out something during a game and Parcells lashing out in jealousy.

    BB never had an issue with Parcells.

    I am assuming BB knew about Parcells’s clause in the Jets contract that when PArcells became GM, it made BB head coach by default.

    BB just had no interest in being part of a pathetic organization and sinking ship, headed up by Woody Johnson.

  18. smartcollegefootball says:
    Jun 5, 2017 1:55 AM
    Eric Mangini, truth-teller, was taught as a young man that “Honesty is the Best Policy.”

    “Cheaters never Win, and Winners never Cheat,” was the lesson learned on the playgrounds and fields where Eric Mangini learned the game of Football.

    Later in life– as a leader of young men– Eric Mangini remained true to his principles, and to the lessons he learned from his elders.

    Eric Mangini may in fact be a hiss and a byword to the cynical and self-righteous denizens of “Patriot” nation, but the quiet satisfaction of a clean conscience unquestionably stands as its own reward for Mr Mangini.
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    umm nososmartcollegefootball;
    If Mangina knew about Bill’s tendency to tape, he knew from having worked with him, therefore a co-conspirator if you will. Therefore not so true to his principles. Therefore your comment is garbage but nice try

  19. Mangini alleges he told Belichick not to record his defensive coaches.
    Clearly Mangini participated in the process while he was in NewEngland. ( sorry to burst bubbles….but a lot of teams did the
    same)
    What Mangini and Tennebaum did was inexcusable.Belichick will never forgive and move on, that hatred runs deep and forever.
    I am not a Patriots fan but I recognize Belichick’s work ethic. No one
    grinds like him. He has been working 14 hours a day for years. Ask
    Parcells and Cowher,fine coaches who were amoung the top coaches in the league, they burnt out and went to TV. Belichick continues to grind.

  20. Admit that the Jets did it to the Pats and pray that there is football in the after life when your plea will be reconsidered.

  21. uknepatsfan – I hear ya. It sure does seem like wasted breath. However, I feel that if you just let all these lies and misrepresentations go unchecked it only feeds the ignorance.

    I prefer to remind them every time. Facts are facts. The truth actually does hurt the haters. They know deep down they really got nothing on us.

    28-3

  22. Mr. Mangini – if you are really trying to reconcile with Mr. Belichick, you should have enough sense to realize that you don’t do it through the media.

    Otherwise one might think that this is a publicity stunt.

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