Osweiler takes a veiled shot at the Texans

AP

The bad blood lingers between Brock Osweiler and the Texans. And while the bad blood isn’t currently boiling (again), it’s definitely there.

Consider these quotes from Osweiler, and the reasonable interpretation of them.

“The best part is I’m getting coached hard on my fundamentals,” Osweiler said regarding his latest new team, via Nate Ulrich of the Akron Beacon Journal. “And I believe firmly that when your fundamentals and your feet are right as a quarterback, you’re going to make great decisions and you’re going to throw accurate footballs.

“I think that’s something that slid last season. I’m not going to go into great detail on that, but they did. My fundamentals slid, and because of that, you saw some poor decisions and some poor throws. If you go back to 2015, I feel like my fundamentals were pretty tight.”

In other words, Osweiler believes he wasn’t properly coached on his fundamentals last year. Which means he believes he wasn’t properly coached by Bill O’Brien and his staff.

Of course, the notion that Osweiler’s fundamentals slid last year doesn’t necessarily mesh with the passionate case he made last month to be the starter in Cleveland:  “I think the proof is in the film from the past two years.”

But Osweiler on Wednesday wasn’t trying to pump himself up. He was hoping to take a not-so-subtle shot. And for anyone who may not have otherwise noticed it, the phrase “I’m not going to go into great detail on that” was the magic marker with which Osweiler hoped we’d all connect the dots.

85 responses to “Osweiler takes a veiled shot at the Texans

  1. So lame. This guy is a clown. Take responsibility for your poor play. I seriously doubt he will get any better with all the “great coaching” in Cleveland. Or anywhere else for that matter.

  2. This guy has been in the NFL for 5 years and he hasn’t mastered the fundementals such as having the correct footwork or the ability to throw the ball accurately?

    And I’m no QB guru, but I fail to see the link between proper footwork and making good decisions. Does having the proper footwork somehow make you more intelligent and able to read defenses better?

  3. Wow, between pouting when he got benched in Denver for playing poorly, leaving them out of spite, and now bashing the Texans as if they’re to blame for his issues, it’s safe to say this guy sucks.

  4. So he had them, he lost them, and now he’s getting them back…doesn’t sound all that “fundamental” to me.

  5. Brock is the guy that made it clear to the Houston coaching staff during the 2016 offseason. “I’m not Tom Brady.”

    He was the one not willing to arrive before the sun comes up and go home long after the sun had set. You only get out what you put in. If you put the minimum in then you will only get the minimum out of your work.

    You are the sum of your preparation.
    -Tom Brady

  6. A “shot”? Not quite. You really need to get out the magnifying glass to come up with that. Nothing to see here except a slow day in the news.

  7. So, it’s the coaches fault that you couldn’t keep your feet and arms properly aligned? Jesus, you’re supposed to be a Pro QB, but can’t monitor yourself enough to keep a job that you need a coach to drill it into you every day?

  8. I don’t see that as a shot at all. I see that as a guy who recognizes he has a flaw and is glad his coaches are helping him with it.

    If it is a shot, it’s not a good one. Not sure how you can blame the coaching staff because of your own flaws.

    But again, I don’t see that at all.

  9. The mistake the Texans made was acquiring him and paying him what they did.

    But they smartened up and dumped him…

  10. It’s easy to take shots at Brock Osweiler. He deserves a lot of them.

    But EVERY QB cannot be wrong, or not up to par. At some point Bill O’Brien needs to be criticized, when QB play is supposed to be his forte.

  11. Takes a shot at the Texans…intercepted.
    The guy is not a leader. One day he thinks he is good enough the next its his coaches fault….hope he knows how to manage his money

  12. So let me get this right:

    1) you market yourself as an NFL QB

    2) you get a starting job, getting paid starter wages

    3) you fail miserably

    4) its someone else’s fault

    Can I try that? Can someone help me get a job as a kicker, you don’t have to pay me much, just 2 years guaranteed at 500K per year. When I screw up I’ll blame… everyone but myself.

    Have fun in Cleveland Brock.

  13. I still can’t get over the fact that the Browns traded for him. The contract that Huston gave him was clearly a mistake, and Cleveland stepped in and assumed that liability. Even if you get a second rounder, this makes no sense.

  14. In Denver, Kubiak made him work. In Houston, O’Brien’s been through a dozen QBs and none of them worked.

  15. In all fairness it’s not his fault that the Texans saw in him what the other QB needy teams didn’t. Which I guess would be a competent franchise QB. That was a hell of a contract for someone with such a small unproven body of work. What are you gonna say when someone throws you millions of dollars for what you know will end in failure? Uh……thank you.

  16. In summary, a QBs coach failed to point out the problems with his mechanics. How likely is that considering that is their primary job? If true, that coach should be fired. But that seems highly unlikely. It’s more likely the coach couldn’t get through to him.

  17. Cue the hurt feelings and delusional Texans fans. I wonder what will the Texans excuse be when they miss the playoffs this year? Will you still blame the QB and let O’Brien off the hook? He is the one wasting a championship roster.

  18. O’Brien is an excellent coach. Osweiller does not seem to be a hard worker. Seems clear to me where the problem is.

  19. For all his faults, he did QB them into the playoffs and played his part (rated 90.1) in a postseason win over the Raiders – before getting dismantled by the Pats (but not many QBs survive a trip to Foxboro). And so he got treated a bit poorly, not least by O’Brien for not being Tom Brady – who O’Brien still thinks is a great QB because he got shouted at a lot by O’Brien despite the fact that Brady had 3 rings before O’Brien’s time and didn’t get numbers 4 and 5 until after O’Brien left.

  20. If your QB is struggling to make accurate throws or bad decisions, I would think the HC or QB coach would review the film to determine if its the mechanics or a case of the brain farts unless the coach never like the QB in the first place and hoped he failed. Going back to the free agent signing where the coach never met with the prized free agent QB makes you wonder. Brock isn’t blameless but there’s no perfect player and they all need to be coached.

  21. Shouldn’t a QB already have good fundamentals when he gets to the league? Did the Broncos have to coach him up hard on the fundamentals? Sounds like he’s just a whiner and using any excuse he can find to account for being benched last year for a nobody.

  22. Set aside the immature haha jokes for a second, the guy made a great point. I’m liking him more and more

  23. Shouldn’t the fundamentals be basically ingrained by the time you reach professional status??? You tool! I hope you wind up on the same scrap heap as JaMarcus Russell and Josh Freeman, among others.

    Certain players have had careers derailed by substandard coaching. You are not one of them! Grow up, or get out!

  24. I call them as I see them. O’Brien is still riding the coat tails of his Penn State tenure. He has shown me nothing as a head coach. Houston will continue to be in the Super Bowl, as a host that is.

  25. The day I saw him throw a toddler tantrum when Peyton was put in the game to replace him was the day I knew he was toast…

  26. Everyone likes to say Elway was smart to pass on paying this guy, which is true.

    He also drafted this schmoe, and the other meh QB’s on Denver’s roster. Elway is not exactly turning out to be much of a talent evaluator when it comes to the QB position judging by who he has put on the field not named Manning.

    Pretty sad considering he played the position at a hall of fame level…

  27. tjacks7 says:
    Jun 15, 2017 11:04 AM
    This guy has been in the NFL for 5 years and he hasn’t mastered the fundamentals such as having the correct footwork or the ability to throw the ball accurately?

    And I’m no QB guru, but I fail to see the link between proper footwork and making good decisions. Does having the proper footwork somehow make you more intelligent and able to read defenses better?

    ******************************************************
    I don’t think it’s footwork, but rather his balance. Perhaps if he were to stop wearing his derriere like a helmet…

  28. I was happy when the Texans over paid for him to begin with being a Broncos fan. I just never felt like he was the “future” for the Broncos. He really does need a lot of coaching with his feet and arm motion. For being 6 feet 7 he gets more balls batted down at the line of scrimmage than anyone I have ever seen. Going to Cleveland may be the best thing form him. He is the best QB that they have right now. He should win the starting job. If not then he may be out of the league.

  29. Brock Osweiler is a complete clown, and the idea that he, an NFL QB, forgot the fundamentals of throwing a football because of a coach is absurd.

    That being said, I don’t doubt for a second that O’Brien didn’t coach him on fundamentals. The idea that he is some QB guru is crazy, he just got lucky coaching Tom Brady. If I were a Texans fan I’d have serious doubts about his ability to develop a rookie QB.

  30. Brock should just change his name to Carson Wentz. That way, no one will criticize him no matter what.

  31. If Osweiler was worried about his fundamentals, then why didn’t reach out to Tom House who has worked with other NFL QBs that wanted to brush up on their fundamentals? A list that includes Drew Brees, Tom Brady, Andy Dalton, Carson Palmer, Matt Ryan and others. I would argue that those QBs have all been more successful than Osweiler, yet still take the time to worry, and do something, about their fundamentals.

  32. Bad blood with Denver, then bad blood with Houston. I’m no genius, but I bet on bad blood with Cleveland in the near future.

  33. O’Brien and he staff are a bunch of college coaches from primarily Georgia Tech that run the Wishbone. he came to Houston and was proclaimed a QB guru/whisperer.. there have 13 QBs out there since he arrived and discounting Savage he has not made one better,,,,

  34. So a questionable player on a bad team is taking shots at a team and coaching staff that’s been over .500 for several years? Got it.

  35. Practicing fundamentals is always appropriate, but an NFL veteran should not need to be coached on proper fundamentals.

    Not to mention, good fundamentals do not mean much when paired with poor decision making…

  36. It’s not like the Texans haven’t sucked since they’ve been in the league. Osweiler needa to quit whinning and be a man. It I think he has a chance to be good in a different environment.

  37. Apparently he hasn’t heard that many established QBs find outside trainers to hone their technique in the offseason.

  38. patsfan4lifesbchamps says:
    Jun 15, 2017 11:59 AM
    Cue the hurt feelings and delusional Texans fans. I wonder what will the Texans excuse be when they miss the playoffs this year? Will you still blame the QB and let O’Brien off the hook? He is the one wasting a championship roster.
    ________________________________________________

    Sorry Texans troll, but we made the play-offs again last season. Your post, once again, makes zero sense.

  39. r502 says:
    Jun 15, 2017 12:53 PM
    Everyone likes to say Elway was smart to pass on paying this guy, which is true.

    He also drafted this schmoe, and the other meh QB’s on Denver’s roster. Elway is not exactly turning out to be much of a talent evaluator when it comes to the QB position judging by who he has put on the field not named Manning.

    Pretty sad considering he played the position at a hall of fame level…
    _________________________________________________
    Elway offered him $16m a year. Houston offered him more. Seems he thought almost as much of Brock as Rick Smith.

  40. When the Texans manage to get the most out of ANY QB in their entire history, THEN we can badmouth Osweiler.

    That team is quickly outpacing the Browns as a place QBs’ careers go to die.

  41. bluenose1965 says:
    Jun 15, 2017 1:41 PM
    patsfan4lifesbchamps says:
    Jun 15, 2017 11:59 AM
    Cue the hurt feelings and delusional Texans fans. I wonder what will the Texans excuse be when they miss the playoffs this year? Will you still blame the QB and let O’Brien off the hook? He is the one wasting a championship roster.
    ________________________________________________

    Sorry Texans troll, but we made the play-offs again last season. Your post, once again, makes zero sense.

    —————–

    The poor sap is a Jets fan…..he doesn’t have much sense

  42. Elway drafted Brock and Lynch who do not appear to be headed to Canton. In all fairness those were weak qb classes given Denver’s draft slot. Everybody missed on Dak, except Dallas, who cried when Denver out manuvered Jones and stole Lynch from him. Jones got Dak as a consolation prize in the 4th. Nobody predicted his instant succesd. Elway did bag the biggest FA of all time, Peyton. He did pretty good.

  43. I applied for a lucrative job once, offering millions of dollars and I said “I’m your guy… as long as you’re going to coach me hard on the fundamentals of the job”.

    They never called back.

  44. I think there is some truth to the theory that the QB coach or coaches in Houston are not good, considering they really have never had a good QB in the history of their franchise (Andre Johnson has made a few of them look good for a little bit). But for Osweiler it’s a dumb excuse considering he’s not in high school, and he did spend a few years learning from one of the best QBs of all time in Denver.

  45. damcmp says:
    Jun 15, 2017 1:13 PM

    O’Brien and he staff are a bunch of college coaches from primarily Georgia Tech that run the Wishbone. he came to Houston and was proclaimed a QB guru/whisperer.. there have 13 QBs out there since he arrived and discounting Savage he has not made one better,,,,
    ————————————————

    False – Hoyer and Fitzpatrick had career years under O’Brien. The problem is the GM tried to fill in with bridge QB’s and this year he finally traded up to draft a franchise QB. Plus O’Brien has had garbage for QB’s and has still had winning seasons each year with multiple playoff appearances.

  46. Technically he may be right, Brady says even he needs to be put back on track from time to time, or his play suffers.

    That being said, nobody wants to hear excuses from this guy. If he flops again, who to blame next time?

  47. Notice how coordinators from New England leave and fail? It shows you the genius of Brady and Belichick. And no I’m not a Pats homer, I just see what non-Patriot fans are loathe to admit. O’Brien is a hack. They let Kubiak, who nearly died coaching for them,go and replaced him with someone lesser. The Browns have gone through 20 QBs since 99. O’Brien is closing at what, 12 in four years. Osweiler might have a point.

  48. First off, I don’t think that shot was very veiled.

    Secondly, how does a pro athlete, who has been in the league for four years previously, still need a coach to help with fundamentals? Unless his definition of fundamentals is different than what most of us would think (footwork, release point, etc.).

  49. The only thing that happened between 2015 and 2016 is he got paid, then he lost focus. 6’7″ wienie-armed tool.

    Texans only have to look in the mirror for who to blame.

  50. Well Brock, you get to show the Texans your new and improved footwork on October 15 at NRG Stadium. You can show it to Watt, Mercilus and Clowney too.

  51. FUNDEMENTALLY: you sucked last season kid. Deal with it and compete. Don’t blame the coaches for your inflated head. Bear down and gut it out. COWBOY UP!!!

  52. Why didn’t they coach him on fundamentals? Because no team pays a guy $72mm and expects to have to coach him on his fundamentals. And yet at some point, they did.

    I heard a story on the radio today, the host worked a Texans Sunday night game with David Carr. Carr was laughing because they had BO holding a towel between his elbow and his side during warmups. Carr thought it was funny because it’s the kind of drill you do with 12 year olds.

  53. I am not a Brock fan but this is a pretty natural reaction to being traded away. He was on a playoff team and was sent to a nonplayoff team. You are salty and sometimes you say things that aren’t fair. Also BO doesn’t appear to be an elite coach. Just watch Hard Knock. That show exposes weaknesses of the coaching staffs. Smith, Philbin were exposed there, not to mention non head coaches too.

  54. I’m not saying the Texans coaching staff is good or bad but I know brock had more wrong with his game than just fundamentals.

  55. He sure sound like he should run for President after his career is over. He already has the part down where he blames everyone else under the sun for falling on his face and losing.

  56. I wish Osweiler all the best unless he’s playing the Texans. Honestly.

    He didn’t work out here and that’s too bad. I’m sure coaching had something to do with it. But his preparation and his work ethic had something to do with it as well. If you’re not getting the coaching that you think you need, isn’t it your job to ask for it, demand it even?

    Imagine with the Texan’s might have been able to do with that defense that year if Osweiler had even been middle of the pack last year? Instead we had the top defense and the bottom QB and we were AGAIN mediocre. I really hope Desean is as good as he looked at Clemson.

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