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Ryan Shazier would like changes to rookie deals in next CBA

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The current Collective Bargaining Agreement has streamlined the process of signing draft picks by establishing a slotting system for rookie salaries along with establishing uniform lengths of contracts — four-year deals for all players drafted after the first round and team options for a fifth year on all players drafted in the first round — for every player selected.

The CBA also says no drafted player can negotiate an extension until after their third year, which is something that Steelers linebacker Ryan Shazier would like to see change in the future. Shazier, who was a first-round pick in 2014, believes that players “should be able to re-up whenever” they and the team agree to a new contract.

Shazier’s option was exercised, so he may not be talking about a new deal until after the 2018 season and said he’d like the players to take another look at that when they work on the next CBA.

“Yeah, that kind of sucks,” Shazier said, via ESPN.com. “Sometimes guys have to wait five years. Other guys don’t. But that’s what they agreed on in the past. Next time we’ve just got to do a better job of structuring what we want to do. At the end of the day, if you play at a high level, things should pan out for you.”

Any change the players want is likely going to have to come by giving the owners something they want. Changes that would benefit players not yet in the league doesn’t seem like something that would be a major priority in such an exchange, so Shazier’s hope may go unrealized.

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  1. walker615 says: Jun 18, 2017 2:48 PM

    Not sure why teams wouldn’t want this. If you know you’ve got an absolute stud, you’d have the option of locking down the guy really early on at a discount (i.e. take less than you’re worth now, because you’re under our control for the next 3 seasons and can’t risk an injury).

  2. i, flounder says: Jun 18, 2017 2:52 PM

    he’d probably also like eyebrows.

  3. tylawspick6 says: Jun 18, 2017 2:53 PM

    no one cares what a dumb player from osu thinks

    that part of the cba had to happen and was long
    overdue

    if you are that good as 1st rd pick, you get the extension
    well before the 5 years, dumbo

    welcome to the real world

    sanchez made 17 mil as a rookie in 2009

    never again

  4. beavertonsteve says: Jun 18, 2017 2:59 PM

    Everything is negotiable. For something as valuable as opening teams up to year two holdouts, I can only imagine what the owners would want.

    Does the entire NFLPA really want to put more of the salary cap in the pockets of the best players? How many players really have the leverage to renegotiate after a year or two? Ten? Twenty? Is that really what the NFLPA wants to spend their negotiations worrying about, instead of getting concessions for the rest of the players out there?

  5. patriot420blog says: Jun 18, 2017 3:01 PM

    hah no they shouldn’t

  6. harrisonhits2 says: Jun 18, 2017 3:26 PM

    They still get paid millions as a first round pick I have no sympathy.

    There are a lot of things I would entirely back the players on changes for, but this isn’t one of them.

    Far too many first and second round busts that teams invest in. Giving players another tool they can use as an excuse for holding out is nothing I want to see in place.

  7. jmc8888 says: Jun 18, 2017 3:30 PM

    walker615 says:
    Jun 18, 2017 2:48 PM

    Not sure why teams wouldn’t want this. If you know you’ve got an absolute stud, you’d have the option of locking down the guy really early on at a discount (i.e. take less than you’re worth now, because you’re under our control for the next 3 seasons and can’t risk an injury).
    ————————
    Because often times this isn’t what happens.

    I’ve seen teams do ‘right’ by the player and tear up old contracts, and sign 3-4-5 year extensions….

    Then after year 1-2 they’re holding out for more money.

    Even though that point in time… they’d still be under the rookie contract.

    So in essence it’s a pipe dream. Not all players, but plenty of them, would just be asking for a 3rd contract by the time they’d currently be negotiating their 2nd contract.

    In other words…. what discount?

    But you see, what people forget is… there’s a good chance the next CBA, corresponding to reductions in future television deals (ESPN is going to hemorrhage more money in future years then they are now), may see only a slightly up, more likely flat to down salary caps.

    He should be more worried about that. What happens if in a few years the salary cap peaks at ~200 million or so and five years later it’s at 170? That is going to wreak havoc on teams.

    The last thing on anyone’s mind then is to let rookies negotiate faster and take a bigger piece of a shrinking pie.

  8. lgw91s says: Jun 18, 2017 3:41 PM

    I agree with him. I think the negotiating window should be open after the second year. It offers earlier security for the player, but generally at a reduced rate. The player always has the option on betting on himself to reach free agency.

  9. redlikethepig says: Jun 18, 2017 3:42 PM

    Show the strength of your convictions. Quit football and make more money elsewhere. That will teach them.

  10. inallsincerity says: Jun 18, 2017 3:51 PM

    tylawspick6 says:
    Jun 18, 2017 2:53 PM
    no one cares what a dumb player from osu thinks

    that part of the cba had to happen and was long
    overdue

    if you are that good as 1st rd pick, you get the extension
    well before the 5 years, dumbo

    welcome to the real world

    sanchez made 17 mil as a rookie in 2009

    never again
    ________________________________________________

    Are you an owner or a heir??? If the players strike, they can get what they want. They just have to be unified and be willing to sacrifice for a period of time. It’s funny you mention Sanchez instead of Sam Bradford.

  11. tylawspick6 says: Jun 18, 2017 4:01 PM

    this guy has been a disappointment missing
    so many games and being so overrated out of osu

    how about playing all the games in a season, there
    workout warrior?

    made of glass and plays dumb

  12. flaccounibrow says: Jun 18, 2017 4:11 PM

    i, flounder says:
    Jun 18, 2017 2:52 PM
    he’d probably also like eyebrows.

    Nice. Pick on somebody with an autoimmune disease. You probably sucker punch blind people too. Stay classy.

  13. ScrappyZoolander says: Jun 18, 2017 4:35 PM

    I would love to see his college transcripts, this guy has the IQ of a walnut

  14. vikinghooper says: Jun 18, 2017 4:42 PM

    Great suggestion. Have a talented, dedicated actor, pianist, or doctor quit their job and find something else while their employer screws them over.
    What world are you clueless, brainwashed, unable to critically think people from?
    Talented professionals in almost every field have people with financial leverage use the person’s talent to make more money for the boss.
    I make 1.5 mill a year, but my hospital makes 10 mill off my work. See how that works, my work is indispensable and can’t be faked, but I only get 10% of what I create.
    Just because financial leverage always wins doesn’t mean people shouldn’t see it is morally wrong.
    Rookie contracts should be two years for everyone; busts wash out and talented professionals get paid. Oh, and no salary cap because I don’t care how much money Mara, Rooney, Allen, Snyder, and Jones make because they aren’t the talent.

  15. vikinghooper says: Jun 18, 2017 4:45 PM

    Oh, and Shazier doesn’t have eyebrows because he has a disease that attacks his hair called alopecia universalis, so you might want to show some simple human decency and not criticize his look since the next disease might strike the head of your pancreas.

  16. mauldawg says: Jun 18, 2017 4:49 PM

    Go get a real job.

  17. streetyson says: Jun 18, 2017 4:58 PM

    At the very least they need to get rid of the “legal tampering” period because only players with agents can take part in those few days before teams can officially talk to directly to players who are soon-to-be-free of their rookie (or any later) contract. Does the league think that the agents don’t act as a relay between player and team during this time? This doesn’t hurt the top players too much, but seems to force any lower-paid fringe rookies chasing to stay in the league to part with agency fees they can ill-afford.

    Oh, and if nothing else there’s probably sufficient pressure to be found in the 2015 season’s unreleased PSI data to remove Fraudger from personally arbitrating appeals against his own decisions on player conduct in the next CBA.

  18. Nofoolnodrool says: Jun 18, 2017 4:59 PM

    tylawspick6 says:
    Jun 18, 2017 2:53 PM
    no one cares what a dumb player from osu thinks

    that part of the cba had to happen and was long

    I didn’t know you went to OSU?

    He has to accept for what it is as it happened prior to his being drafted. But he has a point. Funny how no matter what a non Patriot says it’s automatically dumb for this commenter. And now who is dumb?

  19. nyneal says: Jun 18, 2017 5:11 PM

    Can’t argue with Shazier on this one.

  20. damcmp says: Jun 18, 2017 5:49 PM

    gimme gimme gimme!!!!!!

  21. Nofoolnodrool says: Jun 18, 2017 6:11 PM

    Are you an owner or a heir??? If the players strike, they can get what they want. They just have to be unified and be willing to sacrifice for a period of time. It’s funny you mention Sanchez instead of Sam Bradford.

    He is not an owner or heir……he is a fool. Always talking hatefully about anyone or thing not a Patriot. Simply a waste of oxygen…..

  22. tylawspick6 says: Jun 18, 2017 6:22 PM

    ScrappyZoolander says:
    Jun 18, 2017 4:35 PM
    I would love to see his college transcripts, this guy has the IQ of a walnut

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    you can say that again

    he has also been running his mouth a lot lately

  23. BarbequeTime says: Jun 18, 2017 6:28 PM

    There is another side to this. Rookie contracts are guaranteed for a certain amount so the guys that dont work out in the NFL get some money they need to go find a life outside foitball (which many never prepared for). So a few very successful rookies wind up where they could get a lot more if there was a way to tear up their rookie contract and renegotiate. But they are the exception. For a far greater number of players having a delay before the team can dump them is a godsend.

  24. meadowlandssports says: Jun 18, 2017 8:20 PM

    jmc8888 says:
    Jun 18, 2017 3:30 PM

    But you see, what people forget is… there’s a good chance the next CBA, corresponding to reductions in future television deals (ESPN is going to hemorrhage more money in future years then they are now), may see only a slightly up, more likely flat to down salary caps.

    He should be more worried about that. What happens if in a few years the salary cap peaks at ~200 million or so and five years later it’s at 170? That is going to wreak havoc on teams.
    ————————————

    The NFL is hoping for a world-class streaming deal… Amazon, Facebook, YouTube – to make up for any decline in traditional TV money. The Thursday night streaming package is a test to see who can make the most money from it and thus who will offer the biggest deal to the league. Twitter had it last yer, but Twitter has nothing of value to sell and make back the money. Amazon has it this year and it was speculated they may be able to link products from ads to their own sales pages, so that a streaming viewer can see a commercial for X, click/tap a button, and presto… there’s the Amazon.com page where they can buy it on the spot. MLB is supposedly making big money from their “new media” and the NFL will always try to be bigger and better.

  25. stillabengalsfan says: Jun 18, 2017 8:30 PM

    tylawspick6 says:
    Jun 18, 2017 2:53 PM
    no one cares what a dumb player from osu thinks

    ——

    What’s important is that he was 3-0 against the wooferines.

  26. raiderinva says: Jun 18, 2017 10:06 PM

    I think Ryan Shazier should organize an OTA sit out to force the owners into paying players more money whenever they want to.

  27. laserw says: Jun 18, 2017 10:15 PM

    Absolutely not!

    Keep the four year rule – because it forces more than two years worth of improvement out of the rookie. Reduce this to three years and you will only have players playing in the second year to improve and this is not indicative of the real player. Having to force the players into three year track records shows more of the player’s heart and commitment.

    I would agree to the terms that this clown from the Pittsturd Rusty Nails wants if the rookie contract is voided after three years and the player pays back a year’s salary to get his right to renegotiate. The player should feel the pain of the franchse that could lose the player.

  28. tonebones says: Jun 18, 2017 10:21 PM

    I don’t know how much of their salaries the players have to give to the NFLPA, but I’d be asking for a refund.

  29. rainsarge says: Jun 18, 2017 10:54 PM

    Running backs really get screwed because their careers are so short. On the other end taking a QB high isn’t such a bad deal because you can wait and see if he’s the real deal instead of being forced to hand a rookie the keys to the cash drawer.

  30. craigruby20 says: Jun 19, 2017 12:04 AM

    By the time they renogiate Shazier will have a new contract so he won’t care anymore

  31. lifetimefan says: Jun 19, 2017 6:37 AM

    For every player that excels and possibly deserves a more lucrative contract there are 2 that do not pan out. That is why you sign a contract, management is taking a risk signing the employee for 4-5 years. There is risk for injury on the employee’s side along with the expectation that they will develop into a valuable asset. The employee needs to know that if he doers not improve he will not get another contract, or certainly not a big one.

    Why do you think more teams are looking at unsigned FA’s? The money to sign them is cheap, and the benefits of a hungry employee who may have a slightly lesser talent level and skill set far outweighs big money spending…it is all about value.

  32. evrybdyhas1 says: Jun 19, 2017 7:34 AM

    Most if not ALL the news about the CBA is about what needs to be changed with regard to the franchise tag, first round draft picks and the discipline of players. Although this makes good news to fill space for reporters it is of little consequence to the NFLPA that represents the players, all the players. The Knuckleheads that get disciplined make up a very small percentage of the players, probably single digit. Franchise players again again are a very, very small percentage of players. First round draft picks are 1/8th of the players drafted if you factor in the compensatory draft picks. The most important role of the NFLPA is to get a percentage of revenue (which they did and do quite well) for the benefit of all the players that make up the vast majority and hold the power. The Knuckleheads and Divas get the ink but they just don’t have the votes and their continued whining is all about self interest. Whaa whaa!

  33. troylok says: Jun 19, 2017 7:42 AM

    If a player is on top of their game they are going to miss out on making top dollar because of the agreement. The NFLPA should negotiate for leeway on rookie contracts for players that are in the top five at their position. If a young player is playing that well, then he should be able to negotiate for more. I am not naïve and know the owners wouldn’t give it up, but it isn’t fair that worse players make far more money.

  34. vottorific says: Jun 19, 2017 10:04 AM

    If I remember right, the Steelers were the only team the voted no on this current CBA. Thier union is not unified. I agree with him.

  35. steves11 says: Jun 19, 2017 10:40 AM

    “Any change the players want is likely going to have to come by giving the owners something they want”

    Like an 18 game regular season schedule?

  36. fsstnotch says: Jun 19, 2017 11:29 AM

    This affects 1st rounders far less than it affects later round players. Best current example would be Dak Prescott. As a 4th round pick he’s earning a massive 500k/yr and can’t negotiate for 3 yrs. So he’s a starting QB in the league and winning, but paid lower than probably most QBs in the league including all backups

  37. mogogo1 says: Jun 19, 2017 12:18 PM

    The non-star tenured guys basically voted themselves out of jobs in the last CBA. They THOUGHT they were leaving the rookies out in the cold to enjoy more money themselves when they actually were allowing for teams to consist of stars surrounded almost exclusively by guys on their rookie deals.

  38. bordner says: Jun 19, 2017 12:46 PM

    Of course he’s got an opinion on rookie salaries. Coming out of the O$U, I’m sure he had to take quite a hefty pay cut when he signed his rookie deal.

  39. rob471773 says: Jun 19, 2017 12:55 PM

    Why do we keep hearing this guy talk? He’s hasn’t been able to stay on the field for any of his 3 years in the league and while he’s flashed at times, hasn’t been all that impressive. Last week, he chirping at the champion Patriots and now he’s whining about rookie pay scales. Dude, worry about establishing yourself in the league first before speaking out.

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