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Derek Carr wanted to leave money for teammates

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Raiders G.M. Reggie McKenzie now wants to sign some of quarterback Derek Carr’s teammates, and Carr wants to be sure McKenzie can.

“The main thing that I could just remember was all along the way, I was like, ‘How do we keep my teammates?’” Carr said at Friday’s press conference regarding his new deal, via Raiders.com. “That’s, I don’t know if it’s weird how it sounds, but that was just what I kept telling him. I was like, ‘OK. that’s cool. Yeah, that’s awesome, wow, cool. Is this good for Gabe [Jackson]? Is this good for Khalil [Mack]? Is this good for Amari [Cooper]?’ [Reggie] can tell you himself, these are things that I said to him numerous amounts of times. I didn’t want to hurt our team; that’s the last thing I would ever want to do. So, hopefully we didn’t That’s the last thing that I intended to do and that’s kind of why I was so involved.”

Few would call a deal that sets a record for new-money average team friendly, but if Carr had wanted to maximize his earnings he could have followed the Kirk Cousins path to a year-to-year haul that would have resulted in ridiculously high cap numbers, and that ultimately would have forced the Raiders to pay more than $25 million annually.

And while Carr hasn’t quite copied the Tom Brady playbook and taken considerably less than market value, Brady’s failure to push the envelope has indeed affected Carr, just as it will affect others. If Brady had decided to pursue maximum dollars, he’d be making more than $30 million per year by now, and other quarterbacks would see their own pay lifted by that dynamic. It’s a point that former NFL quarterback Brady Quinn made on Friday’s PFT Live, noting that the union likely isn’t thrilled by Tom Brady’s conscious failure to elevate the quarterback market.

For Carr, the question now becomes whether his teammates will be as charitable when it’s their turn to get paid, consciously taking less to help the team keep more players or saying, “Screw this. I only have so many years to make big money, and I’m going to.”

With limited years in a playing career, no equity, and likely orthopedic and cognitive problems later in life, players have every right to seek every last dollar, forcing teams to navigate the cap and to make good decisions through the draft, which under the current compensation rules allows teams to load up the roster with young, talented, and cheap labor, year in and year out.

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  1. bencoates57 says: Jun 23, 2017 6:57 PM

    Move over. Mother Theresa.

  2. linvillegorge says: Jun 23, 2017 7:01 PM

    Mike “stumping for a run at the NFLPA presidency” Florio back at it again…

  3. harrisonhits2 says: Jun 23, 2017 7:04 PM

    “the union likely isn’t thrilled by Tom Brady’s conscious failure to elevate the quarterback market.”

    Poor poor little QBs only making 20-25 million a year instead of 30. The union can suck it.

    Instead of putting it in a way critical of Brady, you could have said “Brady’s conscious choice to put team before himself so there would be a better roster around him and he would be able to win 5 Super Bowls, the most ever by any single QB”

    What Brady has done is admirable. What the Peyton Mannings of the world do by putting their own greed ahead of every other living being in the world is what’s killing this country.

  4. packfaninpackland says: Jun 23, 2017 7:05 PM

    Carr “wanted to leave money for teammates” ???

    Soooooo, he took 25 MIL instead of 26 ???

    No, leaving money for his teammates would have been taking 15 or 16 million.

  5. mosesthejuggernaut says: Jun 23, 2017 7:08 PM

    Actually a good article Florio. Young QB deserves it (Carr), he wants to keep Vegas together (still young), and you still managed to burn Brady.

  6. badrapp says: Jun 23, 2017 7:11 PM

    Perhaps Tom Brady is more about “team” than “self”. Who cares what the union thinks, they are as self motivated as Roger and the 32+ owners. Also, who’s clipboard is Brady Quinn carrying as an analyst?

  7. fifel1144 says: Jun 23, 2017 7:12 PM

    I watched David and Derek Carr their whole collegette career. Both good men, but Derek didn’t leave a lot for teammates. Do I blame home? No. If he wins the Super Bowl in 2-3 years, then it’s worth it. BTW I hate the Raiders, but they have the right guy leading them on the field.

  8. truecowboyfan says: Jun 23, 2017 7:13 PM

    Oh wow, so he only took 25 million a year… what a nice guy!

  9. aldavisisthenfl says: Jun 23, 2017 7:13 PM

    Derek Carr, this Country needs more of these types….

    God Bless his parents!

  10. internetcommenter7 says: Jun 23, 2017 7:14 PM

    I knew he was overrated. Apparently he’s also delusional. When you’re worried about your team, you don’t sign the most lucrative deal in history. Particularly when you have accomplished absolutely nothing.

  11. 6250claimer says: Jun 23, 2017 7:20 PM

    The fact that these guys even have a “union” is kinda a joke. They’re not coal miners working long hours at a dangerous job for an hourly wage – they’re all independent contractors making 7-8 figures annually, a HUGE difference. Who gives a rat’s patootie what the “union” thinks about a guy settling for “only” $25m when it might have been $30m? Talk about first world problems.

  12. bobsacamano2 says: Jun 23, 2017 7:20 PM

    Lololololol. Easily said after signing the largest contract inNFL history. He also thinks Oakland fans should get over the fact that they are moving.

    Don’t get me wrong, as a Browns fan I’d trade the whole team for his quarterbacking and pay him whatever he wants, but he’s a little tone deaf with his quotes.

  13. jpoh333 says: Jun 23, 2017 7:22 PM

    So Carr demands to be the highest paid QB and the media turns him into someone being “charitable”. The new world of alternative facts has reached pro sports.

  14. kmg1016 says: Jun 23, 2017 7:26 PM

    Raising the QB market may put bigger headlines in the newspapers, but it’s best for the union if there’s actually money left over for the players at other positions. The cap is $167 million. The roster is 53 players. The QB gets 15% of the total money. Isn’t that enough?

  15. kmg1016 says: Jun 23, 2017 7:29 PM

    One last thought: LeBron gets $30 million out of a $95 million cap (32%), but he plays almost the entire game, where Carr plays almost half. Given that, it’s fair to say that the pay for QBs is actually commensurate with the pay for elite NBA players.

  16. keithdylan says: Jun 23, 2017 7:34 PM

    I betcha he’s not the highest paid player within 6 months. If he had hit free agency what would he have received? I bet more. So it kinda is a bit team friendly. Hopefully 3 years from now it will be a bargain.

  17. finnymcphin says: Jun 23, 2017 7:36 PM

    With the rookie wage scale in place no one with any sense is going to fault any player for maximizing his second contract but the talk of leaving money for team mates when he just signed a record contract is ridiculously out of touch with reality.

  18. garby95 says: Jun 23, 2017 7:38 PM

    I think it’s ok to maximize his profits,who knows if this will be he last big contract. But to say he was thinking in his teamates,Really???

  19. kcchefs58 says: Jun 23, 2017 7:41 PM

    This is the second dumb thing he said this offseason thus far. The first was the one about real Raiders fans will continue to be Raiders fans after the relocation was official. Dude has been a damn good QB and it seems like he’ll continue his upward trend. He deserves the contract he got. He may also be little bad with a mic in front of his face.

  20. gerard33 says: Jun 23, 2017 7:44 PM

    That arm is valuable, don’t break it patting yourself on the back too hard.

  21. fakebookfreddy says: Jun 23, 2017 7:47 PM

    Oh this is good. He wanted to leave money for his Bros so that’s why he demanded to be paid the highest player in the NFL. LMAO and rolling! Yeah, DC, thanks for leaving money on the table!

  22. SidFarkus says: Jun 23, 2017 7:48 PM

    fifel1144 says:
    Jun 23, 2017 7:12 PM
    I watched David and Derek Carr their whole collegette career. Both good men, but Derek didn’t leave a lot for teammates. Do I blame home? No. If he wins the Super Bowl in 2-3 years, then it’s worth it. BTW I hate the Raiders, but they have the right guy leading them on the field.

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    I guess you missed a lot of classes. Collegette?? lmao

  23. joetoronto says: Jun 23, 2017 7:53 PM

    Carr is a different type of person than the typical greedy moronic players that spend more than they make, and are broke as soon as their career is over.

    He’s about to make a lot of people happy with the money he just received, he’s actually looking forward to helping out the needy.

    Slamming a person like him is either pure ignorance, jealousy, or both.

  24. boknowsvt says: Jun 23, 2017 7:53 PM

    Tom Brady gets free perks from Kraft in the way of free rent for his TB12 buisness so don’t make him out to be some sort of super teammate.

  25. boknowsvt says: Jun 23, 2017 7:59 PM

    Reggie McKenzie knows what he’s doing. I promise you that this contract is done son Jackson, Mack, and Cooper all get theirs. He’s executive of the year for a reason.

  26. drunkraider says: Jun 23, 2017 8:02 PM

    its only 9 mill more than jamarcus got in guaranteed money 10 years ago. and anybody would take Carr anyday over that clown.

    they have the 5th most cap space, and Reggie has only been signing guys to two-three year deals so when they are done and need to move on from a guy there is no dead money against the cap.

    people who keep saying Cap hell with this contract have no clue, Reggie is doing it right.

  27. nffreakinl says: Jun 23, 2017 8:06 PM

    SMH…. another QB pulling out the white card. Unbelievable.

  28. bigjd says: Jun 23, 2017 8:07 PM

    He wants to leave money for teammates like Kirk Cousins does.

  29. 24hoursinaday24beersinacase says: Jun 23, 2017 8:07 PM

    harrisonhits2 says:
    Jun 23, 2017 7:04 PM
    “the union likely isn’t thrilled by Tom Brady’s conscious failure to elevate the quarterback market.”

    Poor poor little QBs only making 20-25 million a year instead of 30. The union can suck it.

    Instead of putting it in a way critical of Brady, you could have said “Brady’s conscious choice to put team before himself so there would be a better roster around him and he would be able to win 5 Super Bowls, the most ever by any single QB”

    What Brady has done is admirable. What the Peyton Mannings of the world do by putting their own greed ahead of every other living being in the world is what’s killing this country.

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    I dont like Brady or the Pats but this post is spot on. Brady knows how much endorsement money he was going to make and can take less from the team. Other high profile QB’s can take a page from his book.

  30. petersjeffrey36 says: Jun 23, 2017 8:07 PM

    how dumb do you have to be to call a player that gets every cent hes worth based on the market he is in, from a billionaire that squeezes ever last dime he can out of the players, his staff, and typically the city the team resides in?IN the NFL the owners also have the luxury of most contracts not being guaranteed and if they are guaranteed its for injury only..think the NFL brings in to much money? blame American Consumerism, supply and demand dictates ticket cost, advertisement slot, and television deals; so is the way of capitalism

  31. piratefreedom says: Jun 23, 2017 8:15 PM

    Not since Joe Flacco has any QB sacrificed in this exact matter towards building a championship team around him.

  32. scmems07 says: Jun 23, 2017 8:17 PM

    “And while Carr hasn’t quite copied the Tom Brady playbook and taken considerably less than market value, ”

    You act as if he’s been asking for less money his whole career. Not every QB has been playing for 15+ years, have already made hundreds of millions of dollars through contracts/ads and are not married to someone who makes more than them. The media infatuation is real people.

  33. piratefreedom says: Jun 23, 2017 8:18 PM

    6250claimer says:
    Jun 23, 2017 7:20 PM

    The fact that these guys even have a “union” is kinda a joke. They’re not coal miners working long hours at a dangerous job for an hourly wage – they’re all independent contractors making 7-8 figures annually, a HUGE difference. Who gives a rat’s patootie what the “union” thinks about a guy settling for “only” $25m when it might have been $30m? Talk about first world problems.

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    How much do you think NFL players got paid before they unionized?

  34. lukedogg087 says: Jun 23, 2017 8:22 PM

    Every million counts, could he have gotten 30 mil a year? Maybe. Could he have gotten 27-28 mil a year? Definitely. Could he have held out of camp and held the Raiders organization hostage until he got a cap killing franchise crippling deal that he could renegotiate in 3 years when they move to Vegas? Yes

    Remember he’s playing on a second round rookie deal where he’s making around a million a year. If Mike Glennon is worth 18 mil, he could feel that he’s owed 60 mil back pay based on his play under his rookie contract. Instead he is signing a contract based on what he feels he will be worth for the next 5 years. Which at 25 mil per year is going to seem like a steal when we see the deals signed by quarterbacks in the next two years.

    Carr’s deal is only around 3-4% higher than Lucks with a lot less guaranteed money. Luck’s rookie deal paid him over 70 mil, Carr’s just over 4 mil. The cap went up almost 8% last year ,so Carr’s deal isn’t even keeping up with NFL inflation.

    Given the way the Raiders played without Carr last year this deal may come out as a steal, or at the very least not a bad deal.

    Raider Nation!

  35. tylawspick6 says: Jun 23, 2017 8:30 PM

    lol

    what a fraud

    i hated his brother too

  36. tylawspick6 says: Jun 23, 2017 8:34 PM

    theprofootballranker says:
    Jun 22, 2017 7:10 PM
    They Chiefs have been 43-21 since he was hired. Questionable move?

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    very well said

  37. biggs13 says: Jun 23, 2017 8:35 PM

    But he didn’t.

  38. tylawspick6 says: Jun 23, 2017 8:35 PM

    harrisonhits2 says:
    Jun 23, 2017 7:04 PM
    “the union likely isn’t thrilled by Tom Brady’s conscious failure to elevate the quarterback market.”

    Poor poor little QBs only making 20-25 million a year instead of 30. The union can suck it.

    Instead of putting it in a way critical of Brady, you could have said “Brady’s conscious choice to put team before himself so there would be a better roster around him and he would be able to win 5 Super Bowls, the most ever by any single QB”

    What Brady has done is admirable. What the Peyton Mannings of the world do by putting their own greed ahead of every other living being in the world is what’s killing this country.

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    very well said

  39. tylawspick6 says: Jun 23, 2017 8:43 PM

    i want to see his college degree

    he clearly took no business or economics courses
    and struggles with basic math

  40. BarbequeTime says: Jun 23, 2017 8:49 PM

    boknowsvt says:
    Jun 23, 2017 7:53 PM
    Tom Brady gets free perks from Kraft in the way of free rent for his TB12 buisness so don’t make him out to be some sort of super teammate.

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    Thats actually not true. A lot of haters try to imply Brady must be getting under the table money because they just cant wrap their heads around what he does really. Plus they hate admitting he does anything admirable so they dont want to understand it either.

  41. BarbequeTime says: Jun 23, 2017 8:54 PM

    packfaninpackland says:
    Jun 23, 2017 7:05 PM
    Carr “wanted to leave money for teammates” ???

    Soooooo, he took 25 MIL instead of 26 ???

    No, leaving money for his teammates would have been taking 15 or 16 million.

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    While sure he wasnt quite as team oriented as Brady he did work with them to plan the terms so that the Raiders get back their cap space right at the times certain team mates come up for new contracts.

  42. soxpatsceltsbruins says: Jun 23, 2017 8:55 PM

    There is a lot about this article that is twisted.

    After he signs his record setting deal he has an epiphany and says, “The main thing I remember all along the way,…was how do we keep my teammates?” Seriously? A kid got his hand stuck in the cookie jar and says, oh, I’m sorry.” Or more appropriate, as someone sits in front of the judge about to get sentenced and cries and says how sorry/remorseful they are. Where were those thoughts before the contract, cookie, crime went down?!

    Finally, Brady Quinn, sitting in the judgement seat says that the union isn’t happy with what Brady did with his contract. Seriously? Brady Quinn commenting on Tom Brady?

    Both men did what they thought was best for themselves. Carr, a great QB, wanted to get paid and got his pay day. Brady, obviously a great QB, made very good money but decided to take a discount to make his team stronger. We all know the results. To Brady Quinn and the union, it’s Brady’s job to help his team win games not to make sure future QBs get record setting deals. Brady taking a discount obviously had absolutely zero impact on Carr getting paid.

  43. qbarrel says: Jun 23, 2017 8:59 PM

    I was trying to be a good teammate and they MADE me take all this money. Go on and ask Reggie – just ask him. He’ll tell you that I was all kinds of crazy concerned for my teammates and whatever.

  44. romeisfallingagain says: Jun 23, 2017 9:11 PM

    Derek Carr received exactly $125 million for every win in his career against the Chiefs.

    I’m not even bragging up the Chiefs, just stating a fact. The KC defense has made him look absolutely foolish every single time they’ve played. And they’re not even really that great. Truly elite QBs tend to rip them to shreds.

    Has a QB ever gotten such a massive contract without ever actually stepping foot on the field in a single meaningful game? Because he hasn’t. Just saying.

  45. intrafinesse says: Jun 23, 2017 9:13 PM

    Carr didn’t leave money on the table, thats a gratuitous comment.
    He got paid fair market value.
    He could have played year to year and made more, assuming he never gets hurt or declines.

  46. mishutiki says: Jun 23, 2017 9:23 PM

    all this is up to Reggie to figure out, take your money you deserve it…you was passed over in the 1st round…you proved them all wrong…as for Reggie…let us see how well you can keep the good players…it was easy to tear down everything…now let us see if you can keep it.

  47. defscottyb says: Jun 23, 2017 10:05 PM

    Not sure what this means… did be take less already or wants to redo his deal?

  48. muthafknzeus says: Jun 23, 2017 10:40 PM

    So many knee jerk reactions without looking at his cap hit and guaranteed money.

    They still have more than enough room to sign his teammates and Mack.

    Big contracts do not ruin your cap if your GM is cap smart which Reggie has proven to be time and time again since he was hired.

  49. Pocari Sweat says: Jun 23, 2017 11:02 PM

    There is literally no contract that’s ever been signed that left less for teammates.

    If you had a timeline of every contract ever signed, all gazillion of them, dating back to Silly Knees McGee of the 1311 Rumblin’ Nellys, and had on one end the amount that country left for the rest of the team, you would be all the way at the other end.

    You literally just took more money than any player ever had.

    Even Silly Knees McGee.

  50. Robert says: Jun 23, 2017 11:30 PM

    Carr and the Vaiders are going to destroy the New England Patriots.

    The Vaider Dynasty is coming!!

  51. drummer1279 says: Jun 23, 2017 11:54 PM

    So many people have this all wrong. He signed a 5 year Extension, worth 25 mil a year. He still is under contract for just over a million for the last year on his contract. So it’s really a 6 year, 126+ mil deal. By saying he got the 5/125 deal, he’s technically the highest paid, but in reality he’s not.

    The main changes are $40 MIL guaranteed on signing, and his contract defers a bulk of his payments later in the contract, which is an extreme rarity in the NFL. This will allow the Raiders to spend more to retain current players and allow Carr to save money on taxes when they move to Vegas. It’s a win-win for both at the moment, but regardless, Carr did not get all that he could have, and back loading a contract could always backfire for a player, and is why that’s rarely done. I understand it doesn’t look like he did much to help the team, but in reality he did.

    I know everyone says Brady is so unselfish, and I give him props for taking less than he could command. I also know a lot of his salary has been turned into huge bonuses over the years, so he’s really not giving up as much as the average fan thinks. That said, I think the teams that want to be successful over time need to have team friendly QB’s that want to win and not just get paid.

  52. campcouch says: Jun 24, 2017 1:02 AM

    I wonder if my boss is a football fan. I contribute to the company making billions and enriching him. Surely I’m worth 98 mil over 5 years!

  53. babygaga19 says: Jun 24, 2017 1:14 AM

    Carr is already in negotiations to the face of several ladies cosmetic companies where the big seller is eyeliner. Swish!

  54. rowech44 says: Jun 24, 2017 1:43 AM

    Welp, that’s the beginning of the end of this current Raiders’ “dynasty”… fun while it lasted for 1 whole playoff loss…

    And wow! Brady is more concerned about winning than driving up market value for other QB’s he competes against – jeez, what a self absorbed concept! Every football Sunday, as a fan, I know I only root and care that the QBs I’m watching can make even more money with no regard to the score or who might actually win the freaking game!!!

    Just Earn Baby!!! RIP Al…

    Raiders 11-5 this year, 8-8 following year, 6-10 year after… mass exodus coming Derek – enjoy your millions!!!

  55. screamingyellowzonkers says: Jun 24, 2017 6:42 AM

    So if the raiders offered and pushed to give him 28 million a year would Carr have said no?

    Words mean nothing anymore. It’s like having “paid volunteers” as created by a former president.

  56. sml1210 says: Jun 24, 2017 6:43 AM

    Derek Carr wanted to leave money for teammates

    Well, he sure as hell didn’t do a very good job then, did he?

  57. typingofthedead says: Jun 24, 2017 7:37 AM

    meanwhile, the patriots pay a tom brady owned business to treat their players…

  58. vicvinegar00 says: Jun 24, 2017 8:35 AM

    I wouldn’t be surprised, given the relationship Brady and Kraft supposedly have, if Brady will make up his “lost wages” once he is retired and not subject to the salary cap anymore. In mean time, this works best for the team and Bob Kraft’s bottom line if they are winning.

    For most players, I don’t blame them for squeezing every dime out of a system that does not favor them at all.

  59. patsfan112 says: Jun 24, 2017 11:04 AM

    This may sound like a good contract for now but give it a few years when the Raiders need to sign other guys big money and they’ll be begging Carr to restructure his deal. Brady used to have a big contract too but restructured it so the team could stay good. Will Carr do the same when the time comes?

  60. screamingyellowzonkers says: Jun 24, 2017 11:11 AM

    For most players, I don’t blame them for squeezing every dime out of a system that does not favor them at all.
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    That’s not what critics are saying. Carr gets 25 million a year and is claiming he did it to save money for others.

    Any player is totally allowed to get what they can get. Just don’t make silly comments about how charitable you are after getting rich.

  61. finerdetailz says: Jun 24, 2017 11:21 AM

    Am I the only one of that thinks this guy is just a little overrated? . He’s had 1 winning season. And if he wanted to leave $$ for teammates why not take 20 mill a season vs the highest paid in the league. Brady must have a secret deal with craft cause he truly takes less to make sure the team is a team.. and I’m not even a Brady fan..

    Man if Winston has a winning season he will be able to demand 30 mill but unlike Carr I think he’ll truly take less so that team can stay competitive.

  62. realfootballfan says: Jun 24, 2017 11:55 AM

    You people really are bitter at these players. Raiders will be fleecing you dummies who visit Vegas with their hotel tax, but you’re mad at the actual players for getting their part in that money. He’ll be counting 15% of their cap, so he’s hardly breaking the bank. Never get this rush to identify with ownership that permeates fans. That would be like identifying with the corporate office over your own paycheck, but you people do it every single time.

  63. war27 says: Jun 24, 2017 12:12 PM

    RM is setting a trend. Contract structures the Raiders are doing now will be copied in the league for years.

    Every time the Raiders signed a vet, every one screamed “overpaid” yet the Raiders now have a league low $109,846 in dead money. How’s that work? How do you overpay, move players and have a league low in dead money? It’s not magic. It’s why RM was NFL executive of the year.

    2018? 12 of the top 15 paid players can be released, 50+ million in wiggle room can be made and it will count very little against the cap. Dumping all 12 isn’t going to happen. But….

    Players that can be released in 2018 with ZERO money spent, can be traded without spending a dime:

    Osemele: Can be released or traded at any time after 2017. 10-12 million a year cap in savings. Probably happens later in his contract, which is structured the same every year after 2017. NO cap hit after 2017 for release/trade

    Sean Smith: ZERO money owed cap wise in 2018/rest of the contract if released or traded. 8.5 million 2018, 9 million in 2019 in cap savings.

    Rodney Hudson: ZERO money owed cap wise. 8.5-9 million depending on the year.

    Bruce Irvin: Yadda yadda, no money owed cap wise. 8-9.25 million if cut 18/19

    Michael Crabtree: 7.75-8.25 million 2018/2019. Contract also has a ZERO owed to the cap AGAIN.

    David Amerson: 6 million 2018, 7.5 million 2019, 7.8 million 2020. ZERO owed to cap.

    Jared Cook: 5.3 million in 2018. ZERO cap.

    Cordarrelle Patterson: Owed nothing after this season. 3.25 million cap space if released 2018

    The only contract that’s a stinker is Austin Howard. He’ll be a Raider this year, like it or not because there is too much dead money in his contract. It’s an $800,000 cost to keep him. 2018 5.5 million in savings vs. 1.4 million in dead money.

  64. bjwbrown2011 says: Jun 24, 2017 1:58 PM

    Lets be honest, team performance also means alot when it comes to the value of the next contract + endorsements.

    I cant blame a QB for taking as much money as they can, no matter what you are making it always feels terrible to feel you are underpaid.

    For us there is little difference between 3 million dollars and 20 million since it is such a dramatic change from our current lives.

    So its up to each player what they decide to do but I dont feel its fair to judge since we have no idea what its like to be in that position and looking at 20 mil vs 22 mil.

  65. raiddawgz says: Jun 24, 2017 2:23 PM

    The supposed money Tom Brady gets paid is only what is visible in the books. I am sure the Patriots make up for the rest in many hidden ways behind closed doors. I guarantee there are other players they do this as well. I would not put this past them!

  66. zwakblog says: Jun 24, 2017 2:42 PM

    Jamis Winston is going too get paid huge money!!

  67. somehomer says: Jun 24, 2017 2:51 PM

    The real advantage of Brady’s contract is the up front bonuses that minimize cap hit . trust is the reason other owners will never do this .

  68. edwicy says: Jun 24, 2017 3:30 PM

    In 4-5 yrs from now there is probably a good chance of him not having being a top 10 contract in football, and then the same critics will yell at the Raiders for short changing him. It’s how the business works.

  69. imodan says: Jun 24, 2017 4:48 PM

    mosesthejuggernaut says:
    Jun 23, 2017 7:08 PM
    Actually a good article Florio. Young QB deserves it (Carr), he wants to keep Vegas together (still young), and you still managed to burn Brady.
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    When the kid who has won nothing has a hand full of SB rings you can mention him in the same sentence as Brady. Until then it’s assumed the Raiders vastly overpaid, limiting their chances at resigning key parts to what appears to be an up and coming team. Alot like the Colts looked pre overpaying Luck.

  70. war27 says: Jun 24, 2017 5:45 PM

    To go with my above posts about contracts, it looks like this contract is very team friendly after 2018 if anything should not turn out right with Carr.

    RM, dotting the I’s and crossing the T’s. Changing the way NFL teams will operate in the near future. The way he is able to structure will have all the NFL trying it, just to stay competitive.

  71. lanman11 says: Jun 24, 2017 8:35 PM

    Florio, I think your comment about the Union being upset with brady for not pursuing maximum dollars and leaving less for the rest of the players, who will more likely be affected by injury and mental trauma etc. is off base. If there were no salary cap, it might have merit, but the salary cap makes one player consuming the majority of the cap, bad for all the other players, and those players are union members too.

    On a side note, I have never heard Brady talk publicly about money like this. I like Carr, but he is playing to the camera’s, and attempting to create a faux commraderie amongst his teammates. It has a plastic feel to it.

  72. tooz56 says: Jun 24, 2017 8:50 PM

    What he meant by leaving money for teammates, he wanted to make sure his contract wouldn’t put the team in a position where they would have trouble signing other players, Mack, Gabe, Cooper… That was what his concern was. This is a guy who has had zero money issues since he was 12 years old and his older brother became a multi millionaire. He will use a lot of it to HELP those in need across the globe. The guy is a good man and a great QB..

  73. eaglesw00t says: Jun 26, 2017 12:53 PM

    I spent over 400 hours donating my time helping those that are less fortunate.

    Well…I wanted to at least.

    I didn’t get around to that either. Just like you Carr…

  74. silvernblacksabbath says: Jun 26, 2017 2:13 PM

    So Carr takes up 15% of the cap and Khalil Mack will command almost the same… SMH

    Can you feed your families on $15 million a year??? Me either lol

  75. bittersportspills says: Jun 26, 2017 9:09 PM

    harrisonhits2 says:
    Jun 23, 2017 7:04 PM

    “the union likely isn’t thrilled by Tom Brady’s conscious failure to elevate the quarterback market.”

    Poor poor little QBs only making 20-25 million a year instead of 30. The union can suck it.

    Instead of putting it in a way critical of Brady, you could have said “Brady’s conscious choice to put team before himself so there would be a better roster around him and he would be able to win 5 Super Bowls, the most ever by any single QB”

    ==================
    A better roster around him? Who on the Patriots makes big money besides Tom Brady? Get real. New England hasn’t had great players around Tom Brady; they’ve had very good players who take coaching. The Patriots throw them away when they are done. How many players have been truly successful after leaving NE? Ty Law? Richard Seymour? Matt Cassel? Randy Moss?
    Brady doesn’t have to give up money to keep that team together, because his teammates know if they want big $$$, they’re headed to a worse situation.

  76. mojodoa says: Jun 28, 2017 10:28 AM

    Brady has a cap hit of 20.5 million per year until 2020 not 15 million like a lot of people think. Underpaid, most definitely but still in the ballpark. Carr got a five year extention so its really 6 years and 126 million at 21 million per year cap damage. A crap load of money but there just aren’t enough good QBs to go around, just ask teams like the Browns and Jets.

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