Marty B’s top QBs: 1-Rodgers, 2-Brady, 3-Cutler, 4-Eli, 5-Romo

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Packers tight end Martellus Bennett has played with a lot of good quarterbacks in his NFL career. Heading into his 10th NFL season, Bennett has played with Tony Romo on the Cowboys, Eli Manning on the Giants, Jay Cutler on the Bears, Tom Brady on the Patriots and Aaron Rodgers on the Packers.

So which one is the best?

Bennett chose the quarterback he’s playing with now, Rodgers, in an appearance on NFL Network.

“Aaron, I love you,” Bennett said. “He’s a really smart guy, he’s just really laid back, really cool and it’s been fun working with him so far.”

Bennett chose Brady as the No. 2 quarterback he has played with. At No. 3 is a big surprise: Cutler, whom Bennett played with for three years in Chicago. And Bennett says Manning, who was his teammate for only one year in New York, was better than Romo, Bennett’s quarterback during the first four years of his NFL career in Dallas.

165 responses to “Marty B’s top QBs: 1-Rodgers, 2-Brady, 3-Cutler, 4-Eli, 5-Romo

  1. I like you Marty but you lost ALL creditability with your Number 1-2 picks…Even Rodgers would pick Brady. Yeah he’s “your guy” now, but you haven’t received one IN Game catch from the man…EVER, but he’s the best? Sure he is

  2. He ranks Romo last because he couldn’t beat out Witten and didn’t see the ball ,I know this and I’m a Jets fan who hasn’t seen a good tight end in 15 years

  3. I watched the segment but he really just listed them in the order that he played with them.

  4. MB has never played a down with AR, yet he claims AR is the best QB he’s played with???

    Maybe he’ll have a different opinion after he gets an AR scowl after he fails to catch a pass.

  5. He’s sucking up to his new team and its fans. If he was playing for the Jets he would probably claim Hackenberg was better than Brady.

  6. It’s no surprise that this clown had the opportunity to earn from one of the true greats at the tight end position in Dallas and chose to be a whiny, self indulged cry baby. Hey Martellus, the only reason you’d say that Cuter was better than Romo is because he threw you the ball more, case closed. Witten is laughing all the way to the HOF!!

  7. Wait! So he picked the QB he’s currently playing with now? Who would have seen that coming… In fact, he picked them all in order that way. Not according to how good they were.

  8. I had to wonder about this from the headline until I realized that it only includes a subset of the overall QB pool. Cutler in the top 5 of all of them? I would have worried. In his subset, I can see the truth in this.

  9. What’s he going to say? I mean I really like Rogers too and he’s an amazing talent at QB, but there’s never been or ever will be anyone to match what Brady has done. He’s just in a separate discussion from other QBs.

    Bennett said what he had to say, but ask him again after he retires with one ring.

  10. footballgodtb12 says:
    Jun 27, 2017 9:32 AM
    I like you Marty but you lost ALL creditability with your Number 1-2 picks…Even Rodgers would pick Brady.
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    And Brady would pick Rodgers, in truth he has already. Brady had this to say about Rogers in January: “I always love watching his tape, admiring all the things he can do, because I can’t do many of those things.”

  11. Proving yet again that the Bennett boys emulated Bam Bam from the Flintstones regularly on each other’s still developing frontal lobes as kids.

  12. footballgodtb12 says:
    Jun 27, 2017 9:32 AM

    Do you watch football? Aaron Rodgers does more than any QB in football. Does brady win a lot? yes. What does he do tho? Throws slants and screens that go for a lot of YAC yards. Screens and slants are regarded as “high percentage” passes, not b/c just brady can make them, but because anyone from High School and on can make a 4 yd slant pass. Brady’s receivers have WAY more yac yards than other qb’s. And if you think brady throwing a 3 yd slant that goes for 80 yds and a td is the same as rodgers dropping back, using footwork, reading through progressions, then throwing a lazer 50 yd pass, hitting his receiver in stride while taking a hit from a lineman is the same thing then ur delusional. When brady goes down his backup cassell in ’07 won ELEVEN games, thats something most teams cant do with a starter. This year when he was out 4 games for being the biggest cheater in the game, his backup Jimmy had the highest passer rating in the league through two games (one of which was against the 2nd best defense in the league), then his rookie third string qb threw 0 interceptions b/c that offense is dummy proof and the third stringer beat a playoff team (texans) by more than brady beat that team in the playoffs (oh, and the third stringer had to play against JJ and brady did not). Brady is 100% replaceable b/c that offense is dummy proof and doesnt ask the qb to do anything out of the ordinary.

  13. People are seriously going bonkers because out of 1696 players a person picked a guy #2 overall instead of #1?

    I seriously worry about our future. Sometimes I feel our society is rapidly circling the drain.

  14. As a writer at ESPN once said , ” When your season’s on the line , there are 3 QBs you NEVER want under center : Phillip Rivers , Jay Cutler , and Tony Romo ! “

  15. Marty is picking his current QB as #1 and Rodgers is also deserving. Saying Brady is better is a matter of opinion. All good. If Marty was still in NE you can guess what his answer would be.

    If you listen to the clip it was nothing and he gave great respect to Brady and NE.

  16. Its funny how his 1 is his current and then it goes by how many passes where thrown to him. If he had learned how to pass block and actually catch a ball in Dallas he’d probably be worth the money he’s getting.

  17. whatjusthapped says:
    Jun 27, 2017 10:01 AM
    Well, Rodgers never had to destroy his cell phone in a cheating scam so he has that much over Brady
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    …but he did admit cheating when he admitted to having his footballs inflated to levels over the allowed limit which gives him a competitive advantage and is against league rules which challenges the integrity of the game.

  18. Footballfanz says:
    Jun 27, 2017 10:02 AM
    footballgodtb12 says:
    Jun 27, 2017 9:32 AM
    Do you watch football? Aaron Rodgers does more than any QB in football. Does brady win a lot? yes. What does he do tho? Throws slants and screens that go for a lot of YAC yards. Screens and slants are regarded as “high percentage” passes, not b/c just brady can make them, but because anyone from High School and on can make a 4 yd slant pass. Brady’s receivers have WAY more yac yards than other qb’s. And if you think brady throwing a 3 yd slant that goes for 80 yds and a td is the same as rodgers dropping back, using footwork, reading through progressions, then throwing a lazer 50 yd pass, hitting his receiver in stride while taking a hit from a lineman is the same thing then ur delusional. When brady goes down his backup cassell in ’07 won ELEVEN games, thats something most teams cant do with a starter. This year when he was out 4 games for being the biggest cheater in the game, his backup Jimmy had the highest passer rating in the league through two games (one of which was against the 2nd best defense in the league), then his rookie third string qb threw 0 interceptions b/c that offense is dummy proof and the third stringer beat a playoff team (texans) by more than brady beat that team in the playoffs (oh, and the third stringer had to play against JJ and brady did not). Brady is 100% replaceable b/c that offense is dummy proof and doesnt ask the qb to do anything out of the ordinary.

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    That is a silly argument. Rodgers is a great QB and from a skill perspective, better than Brady, but Brady is amazing in a different way. The winning is not accidental. You are wrong about the slants and screens also. Go look at his stats and look at what he did this past year. 8th in deep passes in the league. He plays to the strength of the players on the team. The other QBs that people like to bring up like Cassel have a grand total of zero playoffs made. Jimmy stayed on the field for 1.5 games and got hurt.
    The third stringer lost to Buffalo.

    If anyone could do what Brady has done they would be doing it. They can’t.

    Brady came within a play or two from going to the Super Bowl with Reche Caldwell as his #1 receiver. Don’t tell me about his fool proof offense. No other QB would have a chance to do that.

    Brady is the greatest ever. It’s not even close.

  19. whatjusthapped says:
    Jun 27, 2017 10:01 AM
    Well, Rodgers never had to destroy his cell phone in a cheating scam so he has that much over Brady.

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    Do you believe in the tooth fairy, too?

    lol

    I mean, get off the computer and please get to library and a community college.

  20. whatjusthapped says:
    Jun 27, 2017 10:01 AM
    Well, Rodgers never had to destroy his cell phone in a cheating scam so he has that much over Brady.

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    And you never graduated from the 1st grade and know nothing about football, but somehow you’re still allowed to post here.

  21. Well, Rodgers never had to destroy his cell phone in a cheating scam so he has that much over Brady.
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    You’re right, Rodgers never HAD to for some reason. By the NFL’S standard of proof, Rodgers practically gave a signed confession and video evidencr of him doing the same thing that Brady was accused of. The NFL handled the Rodgers comment the right way, by ignoring it. Brady should have received the same treatment.

  22. Certainly reapect his opinion a whole lot more than the armchairs here. And tbere are two on that list that I have always thought were overrated. So … for now… that’s the list.

  23. bullcharger says:
    Jun 27, 2017 10:16 AM
    Marty is picking his current QB as #1 and Rodgers is also deserving. Saying Brady is better is a matter of opinion. All good. If Marty was still in NE you can guess what his answer would be.

    If you listen to the clip it was nothing and he gave great respect to Brady and NE.

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    The fact that he has already listed Rodgers over Brady, without having played one snap in a regular season game, shows that his response was based on kissing the rear of the guy from whom he will soon be catching passes. Rodgers is an elite QB, but for Marty to already rank him ahead of Brady is just plain turd soup.
    P.S. Brady’s status as #1 is no longer a matter of opinion. It’s fact, backed up by his rings and the NFL players’ survey.

  24. Rogers is the best pure passer since Marino. As a winner and a leader he’s Marino’s equal as well. Brady is in a different universe than them.

  25. He put Cutler at #3???

    Jay must have some dirt on Marty in order for him to rank him that high.

  26. Frazier28/7 says:
    Jun 27, 2017 10:18 AM
    Brady, Brees, Rodgers, Rivers, Ryan

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    Brady and Rodgers 1a and 1b.

    I would say Rodgers over Brady in ability. Some of the deep passes to Nelson he has thrown are impossibly great throws and his scrambling adds an element to his game that Brady doesn’t have (although Brady is better at moving in the pocket).

    That said, I still can’t figure out how Rodgers loses games that he should win that cost GB a seed. I remember they lost @BUF a few years ago and it was really bad.

    He’s slightly less consistent then Brady generally and it costs GB a few wins a year.

    I also think Brady plays better then any other QB in history when down on the scoreboard. None are mentally better than he is and it rubs off on his teammates.

    As for the remainder of the top 5. I would go Wilson, Rothlisberger, Brees.

  27. srvmustang says:
    Jun 27, 2017 10:35 AM
    bullcharger says:
    Jun 27, 2017 10:16 AM
    Marty is picking his current QB as #1 and Rodgers is also deserving. Saying Brady is better is a matter of opinion. All good. If Marty was still in NE you can guess what his answer would be.
    If you listen to the clip it was nothing and he gave great respect to Brady and NE.
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    The fact that he has already listed Rodgers over Brady, without having played one snap in a regular season game, shows that his response was based on kissing the rear of the guy from whom he will soon be catching passes. Rodgers is an elite QB, but for Marty to already rank him ahead of Brady is just plain turd soup.
    P.S. Brady’s status as #1 is no longer a matter of opinion. It’s fact, backed up by his rings and the NFL players’ survey.

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    Lighten up.

  28. tylawspick6 says:
    Jun 27, 2017 9:34 AM
    Embarrassing. Rodgers is great, but he’s not Brady yet and probably never will be.
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    You’re right, Rodgers will never be a cheater.

  29. I didn’t realize Brady fans were so sensitive….

    I’d be shocked if half of NE fans could name a QB before Bledsoe (who’s Bledsoe?). Only Seattle has a newer bandwagon.

  30. Brady and Rodgers 1a and 1b.

    I would say Rodgers over Brady in ability. Some of the deep passes to Nelson he has thrown are impossibly great throws and his scrambling adds an element to his game that Brady doesn’t have (although Brady is better at moving in the pocket).

    That said, I still can’t figure out how Rodgers loses games that he should win that cost GB a seed. I remember they lost @BUF a few years ago and it was really bad.

    He’s slightly less consistent then Brady generally and it costs GB a few wins a year.

    I also think Brady plays better then any other QB in history when down on the scoreboard. None are mentally better than he is and it rubs off on his teammates.

    As for the remainder of the top 5. I would go Wilson, Rothlisberger, Brees.

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    No offense, but saying Rodgers makes better throws than Brady is sort of laughable. They are both two of the best and both make incredible throws.

    Did you see the touch and trajectory he had on the ball to Amendola in OT in the Super Bowl to the strong side? I mean, that’s a sick, sick throw because of the speed of the route, the distance, trajectory needed and the touch needed.

    When it happened, I said “that’s a throw no one will really appreciate”…

    Voila, after watching all the sideline footage, even the Falcons players were in awe.

    Not everyone who watches football completely understands.

    For every great throw Rodgers makes, Brady has one (if not more), too.

    There are numerous throws Brady has made through the years that stick in my head, and many of them are games in October or November which aren’t even nationally televised.

  31. superpatriotsfan says:
    Jun 27, 2017 10:40 AM
    tylawspick6 says:
    Jun 27, 2017 9:34 AM
    Embarrassing. Rodgers is great, but he’s not Brady yet and probably never will be.
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    You’re right, Rodgers will never be a cheater.

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    Lol, try again dude! Rogers even ‘fessed up to it and showed evidence. He was trying to make the point that even if Brady was guilty it was still no big deal because he saya all qbs do it including himself.

  32. but he did admit cheating when he admitted to having his footballs inflated to levels over the allowed limit
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    Why do you guys insist on twisting this? Brady was accused of tampering with balls after the officials inspected them. Rodgers admitted to over inflating them BEFORE the officials inspected, hoping they wouldn’t catch it. Big difference.

  33. Hey, the guy needs to get more passes thrown his way. His answer was the right one “under the circumstances”. 🙂 Seriously, what is he supposed to say? Tom Brady doesn’t care, so nobody else should.

  34. electricboogalo says:
    Jun 27, 2017 10:40 AM
    I didn’t realize Brady fans were so sensitive….

    I’d be shocked if half of NE fans could name a QB before Bledsoe (who’s Bledsoe?). Only Seattle has a newer bandwagon.
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    Tony Eason, and before him, Steve Grogan. And I didn’t Google it, I have been a Pats fan since the late 1970s. Pats fans are sensitive because the current NFL leadership seems bent on thumbing its nose at science and looking for any way to penalize the Pats in the apparent interest of achieving more league parity.

  35. Yeah, Aaron is really laid back and really cool…until you miss a block that gets him hit. I think Marty B. knows that, since he’s already sucking up to him.

  36. bullcharger says:
    Jun 27, 2017 10:39 AM
    srvmustang says:
    Jun 27, 2017 10:35 AM
    bullcharger says:
    Jun 27, 2017 10:16 AM
    Marty is picking his current QB as #1 and Rodgers is also deserving. Saying Brady is better is a matter of opinion. All good. If Marty was still in NE you can guess what his answer would be.
    If you listen to the clip it was nothing and he gave great respect to Brady and NE.
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    The fact that he has already listed Rodgers over Brady, without having played one snap in a regular season game, shows that his response was based on kissing the rear of the guy from whom he will soon be catching passes. Rodgers is an elite QB, but for Marty to already rank him ahead of Brady is just plain turd soup.
    P.S. Brady’s status as #1 is no longer a matter of opinion. It’s fact, backed up by his rings and the NFL players’ survey.

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    Lighten up.

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    Sorry if a well-reasoned, cogent argument bothers you. Next time I’ll pursue your caveman approach of two words or less.

  37. its funny how everyone wants to make rogers better then brady in this list of 100 based on last year and voted on by actual players in the NFL

    when discussing the greatest qb’s of all time, rogers isnt even mentioned and almost everyone now puts brady at the top of the list, as well as teh greatest player of all time not just qb’s

    rogers is definitely more skilled than brady, but so is lebron james, does that make lebron james a better qb than brady???

    qb is a mental position and in that department rogers doesnt even land in the same stratosphere as brady. if rogers is so great than how come they have done very little in his career other than one championship.

    if they both end their career today rogers would almost never be spoken about again while they will still be talking about brady in 50 years from now.

    and that is everything u need to know about where these two stack up against eachother

  38. Why do you guys insist on twisting this? Brady was accused of tampering with balls after the officials inspected them. Rodgers admitted to over inflating them BEFORE the officials inspected, hoping they wouldn’t catch it. Big difference.

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    It’s also a BIG DIFFERENCE that Brady and the Pats employees DID NOTHING, and they were framed, while Rodgers admitted INTENT to try to dupe the officials and nothing happens. Get it?

    How you would like it if your players or team was framed to try to cheat them?

    It does not make sense for Brady to bless the balls and then just because have some guy he doesn’t even know start fiddling with them in arbitrary fashion in a record breaking 90 seconds. LMAO

    I mean, you know when a premise is from cuckoo land, it probably is cuckoo.

    Rodgers showed intent to skirt the rules due to a ball preference and Brady was framed. Dems the facts.

    The bottom line is, there is no doubt ALL QBS have their equipment guys tweak balls during games due to weather conditions. We’ve seen it, we know it, former QBs admitted to it, which is why the NFL went one further and framed Brady based on a sneaky concocted scheme that was intended to outrage the average fan.

    They were caught red handed in a court of law, with Brady under oath, being absolved by a federal judge.

    What commissioner does this? This is on the heels of Goodell lying in court about Ray Rice. Twice.

  39. alltee says:
    Jun 27, 2017 11:13 AM
    its funny how everyone wants to make rogers better then brady in this list of 100 based on last year and voted on by actual players in the NFL

    when discussing the greatest qb’s of all time, rogers isnt even mentioned and almost everyone now puts brady at the top of the list, as well as teh greatest player of all time not just qb’s

    rogers is definitely more skilled than brady, but so is lebron james, does that make lebron james a better qb than brady???

    qb is a mental position and in that department rogers doesnt even land in the same stratosphere as brady. if rogers is so great than how come they have done very little in his career other than one championship.

    if they both end their career today rogers would almost never be spoken about again while they will still be talking about brady in 50 years from now.

    and that is everything u need to know about where these two stack up against eachother

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    “Tom is the best and it not’s close.” – A. Rodgers (4 years ago)

  40. I like this guy cause he doesn’t spout off the usual clichéd boring answers. I may not agree with what he says, but he’s not boring. I wonder if he’d be more amused by the people squawking about Cutler or Brady’s rankings.

  41. My favorite commenters are the ones that say, ‘Do any of you watch FB?’ That’s when you know someone is convinced they know what they are talking about, but have no clue. My favorite is, ‘I know Brady wins a lot but…’

  42. Marty’s list makes little sense. Eli beat both Rodgers and Brady in the postseason twice to win 2 championships so how is he ranked #4? I’m a Patriots fan and a postseason Eli terrifies me.

  43. I’ll make the case for Rodgers over Brady:

    This is a comparison between individual players, and if you look at individual metrics (on a per game basis of course, b/c brady has played several more years) Rodgers wins almost all of them. This is per profootballreference:

    Rodgers:

    Cmp%: 65.1
    TD%: 6.4
    INT%: 1.5
    Y/A: 7.9
    Y/C: 12.1
    Y/G: 259.3
    Career rating: 104.1

    Brady:

    Cmp%: 63.8
    TD%: 5.5
    INT%: 1.8
    Y/A: 7.5
    Y/C: 11.7
    Y/G: 259.8
    Career rating: 97.2

    Now obviously anyone would choose the 5 rings over these numbers, including Rodgers himself. But the “most super bowl rings” argument is tricky because it is a team metric and not an individual one. As a quick example, Peyton Manning had one of his worst years when the Broncos won the Super Bowl in 2015-2016, but the defense was amazing. After he won that superbowl riding his defense, did he all of the sudden become as good as Eli Manning? It sounds ridiculous to think Eli was ever better than Peyton, and even more ridiculous to consider them to be equal players just because Von Miller lit up Cam Newton all game.

    It appears then that it is important to compare the defensive rankings of the NE and GB teams during each QB’s tenure. Below is each teams overall ranking in scoring defense for each year of the respective QB:

    Rodgers (2008-2016):

    22nd, 7th, 2nd*, 19th, 11th, 24th, 13th, 12th, 21st

    Brady (2001-2016):

    6th*, 17th, 1st*, 2nd*, 17th, 2nd, 4th, 8th, 5th, 8th, 15th, 9th, 10th, 8th*, 10th, 1st*

    * won superbowl

    While Rodgers has only had 2 top10 scoring defenses, and 1 top5, Brady has had a top10 defense in 13 of his 16 years, with 6 top5 defenses. And we see when Brady has a top 5 defense, he has won the super bowl an impressive 50% of the time. Rodgers won the Super Bowl the only time he ever had a top 5 defense (100%), but the sample size is too small here to really use super bowl wins as a comparison metric because of how much better Brady’s defenses have been.

    I conclude then that an argument for Brady over Rodgers can only be made using team metrics. Brady has had much better defenses, and the coach/GM gap between Belichick/Belichick and McCarthy/Thompson is considerable.

    That said they are both elite QB’s, and it is probably a waste of my time to bother arguing about two greats. I mean, Coltrane or Miles? Bach or Beethoven? It is lucky to be able too watch both. We have almost had Brady/Rodgers in the super bowl 2 of the last 3 years and it has been Green Bay that failed to get there. I am sure I speak for many NFL fans when I say I want that matchup badly.

  44. Funny how funny some fans are lamenting Bennett for choosing Rodgers over Brady despite not playing with Rodgers yet. Although these same fans choose Brady over Rodgers without playing a snap with either.

    I’m sure Bennett has watched plenty of film of Rodgers and has seen what he is capable of doing.

  45. beerbratscheese says:

    I’m sure Bennett has watched plenty of film of Rodgers and has seen what he is capable of doing.
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    Especially the tapes of Rodgers throwing hail mary passes, after getting do over’s from the refs, to a group of 10 people in the endzone where a RECEIVER has to position themselves in hopes of getting the toss up ball in their hands.

    No doubt Rodgers is the greatest hail mary passer, lucky catch, QB currently playing in the NFL.

    I would agree with that assessment.

  46. Brady is the most over rated QB of all time.
    He is certainly a top 20 though.

    Lost Tuck Rule game
    Lost Super Bowl vs. Seattle
    Lost Super Bowl vs. Atlanta

    Without a bad call in Boston( today would have been reversed) and 2 coaches that contracted Mad Cow Disease he would not even be in the discussion.

    He may be credited with 5 SB,but he only won 2.
    That’s not bad,but to the discerning eye,he is no GOAT.Jim Plunkett also won 2 by the way.That is a better comparison.

    But Aaron Rogders vs. Lucky Tom? Not even close,Aaron is my pick all day long.

  47. its nice to see Patriot fans, you know the fans a franchise that actually win more than 1 championship with one the greatest QBs ever, to rip apart these obnoxious cheeseheads.

    Face it Green Bay.
    The Patriots are Joe Montana
    And you’re Dan Marino. with one championship.

  48. Frazier28/7 says:
    Jun 27, 2017 1:26 PM
    its nice to see Patriot fans, you know the fans a franchise that actually win more than 1 championship with one the greatest QBs ever, to rip apart these obnoxious cheeseheads.

    Face it Green Bay.
    The Patriots are Joe Montana
    And you’re Dan Marino. with one championship.
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    And you’re like the little kid on the playground that says:

    “Oh yeah?” Well, Jimmy did better than you at kickball today. So there!”

    Yaaaaay, Jimmy!

  49. Brady is not laid back, that’s for sure. He dragged Bennett’s and his team’s bum to a championship.

  50. I’m a Packers fan and I think Tom Brady has been the best QB of his era, hands down.
    That said, there’s no question Aaron Rodgers can do more things well than Brady now. Rodgers is the best QB in the game now, period. His mobility and ability to throw on the run is unmatched.
    Brees has been great, too, and Ryan looks like he’s finally reached elite status. Romo put up great numbers during his career, but he was never quite able to put the Cowboys over the top.
    I am not a huge fan of Eli Manning. He’d got two rings so that will no doubt put him in the Hall Of Fame, but there’s no way I put him in the Rodgers, Brady, Brees category.
    But honestly — who really cares? All of these guys play at a high level most of the time so it doesn’t really matter what anyone thinks.
    I know this much — I would not trade Aaron Rodgers for any QB in the league — even Tom Brady — for two reasons.
    One — he is a winner who always gives the Packers a chance to get to the Super Bowl.
    Two — he angers the Packers haters (like the Vikings fans) so much.

  51. \canadaldavis says:
    Jun 27, 2017 1:18 PM
    Brady is the most over rated QB of all time.
    He is certainly a top 20 though.

    Lost Tuck Rule game
    Lost Super Bowl vs. Seattle
    Lost Super Bowl vs. Atlanta

    Without a bad call in Boston( today would have been reversed) and 2 coaches that contracted Mad Cow Disease he would not even be in the discussion.

    He may be credited with 5 SB,but he only won 2.
    That’s not bad,but to the discerning eye,he is no GOAT.Jim Plunkett also won 2 by the way.That is a better comparison.

    But Aaron Rogders vs. Lucky Tom? Not even close,Aaron is my pick all day long.

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    You sound like a poor-man’s version of Rob Parker, a media guy who Fox Sports 1 trots out on occasion to say really dumb things like “Brady is overrated” or “Brady is the luckiest,” while barely keeping a straight face. Please work on your math, and — since you apparently hail from Canada (canadaldavis) — stick with hockey.

  52. Yea but Martellus is definitely a multi-millionaire. A great Tight end, and he ranked his QBs to how HE liked them…i know all of you have caught passes from all those QBs and know what its like and may not agree but … yeah other people have different opinions sometimes…crazy right?

  53. smiller51 says:
    Jun 27, 2017 12:30 PM
    I’ll make the case for Rodgers over Brady:

    This is a comparison between individual players, and if you look at individual metrics (on a per game basis of course, b/c brady has played several more years) Rodgers wins almost all of them. This is per profootballreference:

    Rodgers:

    Cmp%: 65.1
    TD%: 6.4
    INT%: 1.5
    Y/A: 7.9
    Y/C: 12.1
    Y/G: 259.3
    Career rating: 104.1

    Brady:

    Cmp%: 63.8
    TD%: 5.5
    INT%: 1.8
    Y/A: 7.5
    Y/C: 11.7
    Y/G: 259.8
    Career rating: 97.2

    ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++

    you love your stats, so lets break this down with logic.

    brady started 4 years before rogers and in those 4 years that was a massive change in the game from running to more passing allowing the stats to change in favor of younger QB’s. using these stats you could also argue rogers is better than starr, montana, and every other qb who is listed as one of the all time greats and rogers is never on any of those lists

    as well you could argue that rogers always had a great group of receivers something brady has lacked in several of his playing years. (not all of them but definitely a bunch)

    we can also look to the eye ball test, brady has always played his best when he is down, in both super bowl losses he came back to take the lead in the final minutes and its his defence that lost those games, can you honestly say the same for rogers??

    brady has had some years with great receivers, liek when he had moss, you know when moss gotthe touchdown record which still stands today

    rogers can do great things on the field, but he isnt one of teh greatest qb’s of all time, and nobody says or thinks he is, not a single sportscaster or nfl officianoda metions rogers when discussing the all time greats.

    love rogers all you want, he is a great qb, but at this age he will never be considered one of the greatest, and he wont be remembered in the history books of the NFL. brady will be remembered for eternity in the history books.

    championships are a team sport but they take a great leader and a great qb to amass several of them, right now rogers is tied with dilfer for one championship.

    ask yourself one question when trying to figure out who is the better qb, would rogers trade his career for brady’s??

    and dont tell me about a team sport like the packers have had horrible teams lol

  54. Of course he has to say Aaron Rodgers, since he is on that team.

    I am surprised that Jay is high on that list. I thought it was customary to trash Jay Cutler when you leave the Bears.

  55. electricboogalo says:
    Jun 27, 2017 10:40 AM
    I didn’t realize Brady fans were so sensitive….

    I’d be shocked if half of NE fans could name a QB before Bledsoe (who’s Bledsoe?). Only Seattle has a newer bandwagon.
    —————————–
    Tommy Hodson, Hugh Millen – and now the fan base is and has been rewarded for the downtimes

  56. tylawspick6 says:
    Jun 27, 2017 9:34 AM
    Embarrassing. Rodgers is great, but he’s not Brady yet and probably never will be.

    ———–

    But but but…….. last year he was the wisest man in the league. Lmao

  57. srvmustang says:
    Jun 27, 2017 11:04 AM
    bullcharger says:
    Jun 27, 2017 10:39 AM
    srvmustang says:
    Jun 27, 2017 10:35 AM
    bullcharger says:
    Jun 27, 2017 10:16 AM
    Marty is picking his current QB as #1 and Rodgers is also deserving. Saying Brady is better is a matter of opinion. All good. If Marty was still in NE you can guess what his answer would be.
    If you listen to the clip it was nothing and he gave great respect to Brady and NE.
    ///////////
    The fact that he has already listed Rodgers over Brady, without having played one snap in a regular season game, shows that his response was based on kissing the rear of the guy from whom he will soon be catching passes. Rodgers is an elite QB, but for Marty to already rank him ahead of Brady is just plain turd soup.
    P.S. Brady’s status as #1 is no longer a matter of opinion. It’s fact, backed up by his rings and the NFL players’ survey.
    ———————–
    Lighten up.
    ////////
    Sorry if a well-reasoned, cogent argument bothers you. Next time I’ll pursue your caveman approach of two words or less.

    ————

    I agree with you. Read all my posts. I’m saying lighten up because you are taking what Marty said too seriously. Watch the video.

    Also, lighten up on the name calling too. Caveman? That’s not needed as part of your cogent argument is it?

  58. canadaldavis says:
    Jun 27, 2017 1:18 PM
    Brady is the most over rated QB of all time.
    He is certainly a top 20 though.
    Lost Tuck Rule game
    Lost Super Bowl vs. Seattle
    Lost Super Bowl vs. Atlanta
    Without a bad call in Boston( today would have been reversed) and 2 coaches that contracted Mad Cow Disease he would not even be in the discussion.
    He may be credited with 5 SB,but he only won 2.
    That’s not bad,but to the discerning eye,he is no GOAT.Jim Plunkett also won 2 by the way.That is a better comparison.
    But Aaron Rogders vs. Lucky Tom? Not even close,Aaron is my pick all day long.

    ————————-

    I don’t understand your point. What ever the scoreboard says at the end of the game is the score. Who ever won, won. You can’t credit Brady for winning the Super Bowl in 2007 because he drove to take the lead and the defense folded up like a cheap suit. He lost that game. Equally you can’t take away the other 5 he won. That would be dumb.

    Really if you want to talk about Brady’s success it is all the other games he has won. He averages more than 12 wins a season for his long career. That’s insane. At least two wins a year are miracles that he pulls out on his own.

    Rodgers hasn’t been as consistent. He loses key games to mediocre teams and often can’t get the seed and his division are equal bums to the AFC EAST.

    He is great, and at his best he is the best I have ever seen play. He just hasn’t been as consistent as Brady.

  59. Bennett is just having fun. Rodgers is his new QB so he wants to pretend he is kissing up.

  60. Rodgers needs to start winning some titles before he’s can possibly be thought of as the best QB. The guy disappears under pressure. Waaaaay too many disappointing seasons given all that talent.

  61. As a Bears fan I love this…we couldn’t have planted a better cancer in that dressing room if we tried !!!

  62. Yes Marty is just having fun indeed. He is the ultimate team player and we will miss him in New England. He is also a very smart man and is making as much money as he can while playing the great game of football. God bless you Marty.

  63. He was asked this question while an unblinking Aaron Rodgers stared at him through a window from outside the studio.

  64. The joke blew over all you guys apparently. Marty B merely listed the quarterbacks he has played with. He was on the Cowboys, Bears, Giants, and Patriots earlier in his career. Now he is on the Packers. And he listed his current quarterback as number 1. It is a corny joke.

  65. screamingyellowzonkers says:
    Jun 27, 2017 12:43 PM
    beerbratscheese says:

    I’m sure Bennett has watched plenty of film of Rodgers and has seen what he is capable of doing.
    ——————————————–

    Especially the tapes of Rodgers throwing hail mary passes, after getting do over’s from the refs, to a group of 10 people in the endzone where a RECEIVER has to position themselves in hopes of getting the toss up ball in their hands.

    No doubt Rodgers is the greatest hail mary passer, lucky catch, QB currently playing in the NFL.

    I would agree with that assessment.
    ——————–

    So you’re boiling Rodgers’ career down to just 4 hail mary passes? Really? It takes a special kind of stupid to do that. Congratulations.

  66. I think there may be an editorial mistake. I don’t see an asterisk next to number two, but I know you meant for it to be there so I’ll let it slide. Rodgers is definitely the best QB of this current generation.

  67. footballgodtb12 says:
    Jun 27, 2017 9:32 AM

    … Even Rodgers would pick Brady. …
    __________________

    And brady would pick Rodgers. You know, unless it was a secret ballot. Then Shady would pick himself. The patriot way.

  68. uncommon1 says:
    Jun 27, 2017 10:29 AM

    You’re right, Rodgers never HAD to for some reason. By the NFL’S standard of proof, Rodgers practically gave a signed confession and video evidencr of him doing the same thing that Brady was accused of. The NFL handled the Rodgers comment the right way, by ignoring it. Brady should have received the same treatment.
    ———————–

    The simple fact is, that if the Packers and Rodgers had been laying waste to the league for 15 years straight, and routinely embarrassing teams, coaches, and owners, they would likely be under as much scrutiny as the Patriots, but they hardly win anything meaningful, so the league leaves them alone.

  69. Let’s see if Rodgers can win Marty another ring.
    Rodgers is gifted with strong arms and legs. Brady sadly can’t run, he has O.K. arm strength. But.. With other QBs the receivers made/make them look good. Brady makes his average receivers look good. During SB51 while the Pats were getting hammered, one player tweeted that the Pats lack of ” star players” is taking its toll. Julio Jones vs James White? There’s just something about Brady. A sixth round pick making himself the GOAT is incredible.
    No losers, he does not cheat.

  70. Let’s see if the “greatest” QB he’s played with can get him his a ring in his 1st year with the team like the “lesser” QB did.

  71. Lost Tuck Rule game
    Lost Super Bowl vs. Seattle
    Lost Super Bowl vs. Atlanta
    —————-
    I understand trolling, but please stop embarrassing yourself. Brady made the plays to win those games. Whether you like it or not.

    I’m a Pats fan, but people bringing up Rodgers trying to pass non regulation FBs through the refs is not a violation, That’s on the refs. If someone from the Pats tampered with FBs after the refs inspected them; that’s an equipment violation. Doubt it happened, but it’s not the same.

  72. Anytime you post any article that doesn’t put Brady on a pedestal, Pats fans go nuts. There’s not a more miserable fan base than Boston fans and the fact they’ve had so much success the past decade just makes their self-pity that much worse.

  73. htown1035 says:
    Jun 27, 2017 4:36 PM
    Anytime you post any article that doesn’t put Brady on a pedestal, Pats fans go nuts. There’s not a more miserable fan base than Boston fans and the fact they’ve had so much success the past decade just makes their self-pity that much worse.

    //////////

    This particular article DOES give Brady his due, from the perspective of the NFL players themselves. I guess we Patriot fans just need to better resist the temptation of responding to idiot trolls.

  74. senatorblutarsky says:
    Jun 27, 2017 3:36 PM
    footballgodtb12 says:
    Jun 27, 2017 9:32 AM

    … Even Rodgers would pick Brady. …
    __________________

    And brady would pick Rodgers. You know, unless it was a secret ballot. Then Shady would pick himself. The patriot way.

    ////////

    How are things under that bridge, Capt. Troll?

  75. And I thought Viking fans were big babies. Patriot fan chill out it’s just one guys opinion. Ask yourself if Rodgers was on the Patriots would they have won their last 2 Super Bowls? Now ask yourself if Brady was on the Packers would they have gotten farther than they did? There’s your answer, maybe it’s a wash or maybe ones better than the other but they’re both better than any other qb in the league. It’s nothing to get so bent out of shape about.

  76. Pats fans are not miserable. Come to a SBowl parade sometime and feel the self pity. The Pats are champions. Most fans of the Pats post to refute the useless nonsense of the excuse making hater fans of teams that lost to them. And to make fun of their wasted lives.

  77. djvh2 says:
    Jun 27, 2017 3:46 PM
    If the coaches had been swapped, Rodgers would have 8 straight Super Bowl titles and counting…

    0 1

    ///////

    So you’re saying McCarthy is clueless and Rodgers has absolutely no influence in game planning?

  78. Rodgers is phenomenal no doubt. And there were a couple games he willed himself to victory through a single Hail Mary or other deep completion. But Brady has willed himself to many more victories — and victoried on a bigger stage — with multiple or consecutive completions to sustain drives — sometimes multiple drives like we saw in the SB. If Brady doesn’t come away with points on 4 consecutive drives — the last two drives being touchdowns and 2 point conversions — Devonta Freeman is a household name in perpetuity throughout the universe.

  79. Tom is the best. He has a gracious character that creates a team atmosphere. And it is noteworthy to say teams win Super Bowls…plural.

  80. vinzclorth0 says:
    Jun 27, 2017 3:03 PM
    Rodgers needs to start winning some titles before he’s can possibly be thought of as the best QB. The guy disappears under pressure. Waaaaay too many disappointing seasons given all that talent.
    ————————-

    No offense, but you have no idea what you’re talking about. Rodgers has rarely been the reason the Packers have lost playoff games. It’s the defense that fails. Or special teams. He’s maybe had three bad playoff games in his career, and they won at least one of them (against the Bears).

  81. beerbratscheese says:

    So you’re boiling Rodgers’ career down to just 4 hail mary passes? Really? It takes a special kind of stupid to do that. Congratulations

    ——————————————————–
    What takes a special kind of stupid is to assume that Aaron Rodgers is a “future hall of famer” and can even currently be compared to Tom Brady.

    Rodgers isnt even in the top 20.
    Brady is number 4.

    Here is a list of the top 20 passing yards ALL Time:

    1 Peyton Manning 71,940
    2 Brett Favre 71,838
    3 DREW BREES 66,111
    4 TOM BRADY 61,582
    5 Dan Marino 61,361
    6 John Elway 51,475
    7 Warren Moon 49,325
    8 ELI MANNING 48,214
    9 Fran Tarkenton 47,003
    10 BEN ROETHLISBERGER 46,814
    11 Vinny Testaverde 46,233
    12 PHILIP RIVERS 45,833
    13 Drew Bledsoe 44,611
    14 CARSON PALMER 44,269
    15 Dan Fouts 43,040
    16 Kerry Collins 40,922
    17 Joe Montana 40,551
    18 Johnny Unitas 40,239
    19 Dave Krieg 38,147
    20 Boomer Esiason 37,920
    *Active players are in CAPS.

    It’s ridiculous that you and various sports media clowns gush over Rodgers at this point of his career.
    When Rodgers gets passed Vinny Testaverde, I might start to agree with you.

  82. screamingyellowzonkers says:
    Jun 27, 2017 5:20 PM

    It’s ridiculous that you and various sports media clowns gush over Rodgers at this point of his career.
    When Rodgers gets passed Vinny Testaverde, I might start to agree with you.
    —————————

    So, instead of actually watching the players play and see how they perform on the field, you are using one particular passing statistic. It’s a bold move, Cotton, but I don’t think it’s going to pay off too big for you.

  83. Bennett acted like a clown in Dallas, instead of learning from Witten, that’s why he was gone from there.
    Now has been with CHI, NYG, NE . He’s got size and talent , but the mouth & attitude are his issue

  84. I don’t know why anybody’s getting excited over this; it’s one man’s opinion.

    Brady>Rodgers?

    Rodgers>Brady?

    I’ll go with Brady=Rodgers.

    They are without doubt the two best in the game… today. They may both get eclipsed some day and maybe sooner than later. I think Rodgers has the better physical talent (barely) but Brady has more killer instinct and is better at exerting his will. This too is just one man’s opinion.

    If you switched the two guys, they may both still be great or they may both be not so great. I personally believe there’s a lot to be said for the QB/Head Coach combination. As a Packer fan, I wouldn’t trade Rodgers for Brady due to their ages; but if I could trade Rodgers, McCarthy and Thompson for Brady and Belichick… ? Man, where do I sign?

    I’m not unhappy with McCarthy or Thompson, but I can recognize Bill Belichick as the best Head Coach/GM in the league today and very likely the best ever. It’s really not that hard to be realistic. Some of you should try it some time.

  85. Aaron Rodgers is simply overrated. He just doesn’t win enough in the postseason. To compare him with Brady is a joke.

  86. Aaron Rodgers is simply overrated. He just doesn’t win enough in the postseason. To compare him with Brady is a joke. Brady has done it with less weapons and bad defenses. It just doesn’t matter.

  87. There is something about guys like Charles Barkley and Marty B. They have the ability to say things that get a reaction from a lot of people. I look forward to Marty’s post-retirement career in the media. Like Charles, he’ll sprinkle in a few political comments here and there. We spend hours and hours talking about how these guys are irrelevant, yet every time they say something, we stop what we’re doing and listen. Not only listen, we respond. That’s pretty funny. Most of the time, these two guys aren’t even trying to be serious. They’re just entertaining. We love to be entertained.

  88. I love this site. These comments are great. Rodgers or Brady… People just freak out over this. IMO, Brady has earned his spot as best. I’ve been a fan of his since beating the “greatest show on turf” when he won his first ring. But as a diehard Packer fan I think we need to give Rodgers a few more years. If he stays healthy, he’s still got some years to close the gap.

  89. tedmurph says:
    Jun 27, 2017 9:34 PM
    Aaron Rodgers is simply overrated. He just doesn’t win enough in the postseason. To compare him with Brady is a joke. Brady has done it with less weapons and bad defenses. It just doesn’t matter.
    ————————-

    If you think Brady is better than Rodgers, so be it. But to say stuff like this tells me you don’t even watch football. Every time the Patriots (not Brady, but the Patriots) won a Super Bowl, they have had a top 10 defense.

    And to say the Packers don’t win because of Rodgers is one of the most insane things I’ve ever read.

  90. factpurveyor says:
    Jun 28, 2017 7:26 PM
    Jacoby Brissett has as many superbowl rings as Aaron Roggers and Jimmy Garoppolo has twice as many.
    ——————-

    Excellent point. This is a perfect example of why rings don’t define individual players. And shows why it’s stupid to rank players based on this.

  91. beerbratscheese says:
    Jun 28, 2017 8:03 PM

    Excellent point. This is a perfect example of why rings don’t define individual
    —————————————————————
    Unless someone has 5 times as many rings as someone else. Then rings matter.

  92. Rodgers never fessed up to using over inflated balls, he said he prefers a over inflated ball. He never said he uses them during a game or anything like that. I’m not at all saying Brady was guilty for deflating, I’m just saying Rodgers never said he plays NFL games with a over inflated ball. I can prefer turkey over chicken, but still eat chicken.

  93. Some players have an innate, intangible factor that makes them winners. Brady has it, Rodgers doesn’t. I love the condescension of posters that tell other people they don’t watch FB. It immediately tells me they have no idea what they’re talking about.

  94. tedmurph says:
    Jun 29, 2017 12:03 PM
    Some players have an innate, intangible factor that makes them winners. Brady has it, Rodgers doesn’t. I love the condescension of posters that tell other people they don’t watch FB. It immediately tells me they have no idea what they’re talking about.
    ————————-

    Well, you said The Patriots have had “bad defenses” when they have had a top 10 defense every time they won a Super Bowl. So your statement is obviously wrong.

    You say Rodgers doesn’t win enough in the playoffs. Yet he puts up just as many PPG in the post season as Brady does, but the Packers defense gives up an average of 10 more PPG in Packers playoff losses than the Patriots do. It’s obvious that Rodgers isn’t a main issue in Packers playoff losses. So my statement was a logical conclusion to make.

  95. So you’re saying McCarthy is clueless and Rodgers has absolutely no influence in game planning?
    ===

    McCarthy is just a guy.

    Look at the SOUL crushing defeats he’s endured. That’s no accident.

  96. Brady won the SBowl with the 24th and 13th ranked D’s in the league. He got to the SBowl with the 31rst ranked D. ARodgers is 9-7 in the playoffs. 1 SBowl. Brady is 25-9. Rodger’s had D’s in the top half of the league 5x, with 2 top 10 D’s. Try again. It’s not even close.

  97. tedmurph says:
    Jun 29, 2017 1:52 PM
    Brady won the SBowl with the 24th and 13th ranked D’s in the league. He got to the SBowl with the 31rst ranked
    —————-

    I hope you’re not ranking defenses by yards rather than points, because that’s another clueless thing to do. After all, what is more imported, the number of yards given up, or the number of points?

  98. Make all the excuses you want for Rodgers, 9-7 postseason isn’t good enough to be ranked as one of the top players in the league. That includes 4-0 in the SBowl winning yr. Otherwise he’s 5-7. JFlacco could do that. If Rodger’s teams are good enough to go between 10-6 and 14-2, his postseason record should be better. Plenty of talent, but doesn’t have the ‘it’ factor. Period.

  99. Playoff Stat——–Rodgers—-Brady

    QB Rating———–99.4——–89.0
    Completion %——63.5%——62.7%
    PPG—————–28.75——-26.7
    YPA——————-7.5———6.9
    TD %—————–6.0%—––-4.8%
    INT %—————-1.7%——–2.3%

    Rodgers beats Brady in rushing stats too, by a huge margin, but that should be obvious by now.

    ^ When Rodgers performs better than Brady in the playoffs, against harder defenses…no, that does not mean Brady performs better in the playoffs. That means Brady performs worse.

    In the game of football, it takes an entire team to win and lose games. This is how the game of football works.

    The Patriots perform better in team statistics because the Patriots are the better team.

    Rodgers performs better in QB statistics because Rodgers is the better QB.

    ^ The fact that you’re forced to resort to entire team statistics like team records just goes to show you have nothing. You wouldn’t have to ignore QB statistics if Brady was the better QB. But you do, because Rodgers is better than Brady.

  100. Excellent point. This is a perfect example of why rings don’t define individual players. And shows why it’s stupid to rank players based on this.


    Not really. 🙂

    You can’t compare stats across eras but you certainly can compare rings and wins. And we aren’t talking one ring (Dilfer says hi) we are talking 5.

    A win means you were good enough to beat the other QB who also benefited from the same rules favoring passing.

    The GOAT of course has more wins and rings than any QB that ever been in this league. 🙂

  101. beerbratscheese says:
    Jun 29, 2017 2:14 PM
    tedmurph says:
    Jun 29, 2017 1:52 PM
    Brady won the SBowl with the 24th and 13th ranked D’s in the league. He got to the SBowl with the 31rst ranked
    —————-

    I hope you’re not ranking defenses by yards rather than points, because that’s another clueless thing to do. After all, what is more imported, the number of yards given up, or the number of points?


    It’s both! 🙂

    Did you know that Joe Montana has never been to a Super Bowl with anything lower than the 8th ranked defense? 🙂

  102. “He (Brady) didn’t need that ring to prove he is the greatest of all time. That is just another part of his legacy”

    Aaron Rodgers after the Super Bowl this year

    🙂

    I think a great like Rodgers knows what he is talking about 🙂

  103. @beer

    Here’s why a top scoring defense doesn’t matter as much as you think it does.

    Say you have a great offense that can score a lot. Your defense is on the field and gives up 3rd down conversion after 3rd down conversion and clock but they give up a field goal and not a TD. While that might sound great the truth is it’s not by the simple fact you gave up a net of more points than that because your offense wasn’t on the field to score.

    Therefore it’s points AND yards.

    Tom Brady took not just a bad defense to a Super Bowl in 2011 but a historically bad one. They gave up 400 yard passing games to such awesome talent like Chad Henne, Vince Young and almost 400 to the great Dan Orlovsky. You tell us how great a defense like that is.

    The defense rests your honor. 🙂

  104. Let’s not forget what Brady said about Rodgers, too:

    “Well I think he does things that no one in the league has ever done or can do, just because of his physical ability. And some of the plays he makes, they’re just phenomenal,” Brady said. “And I’ve seen a lot of them. Not just the throws, the scrambles, he had one in the Giants game … some of the plays yesterday, it’s just his style of play. And he’s been doing that for a while.
    “I always love watching his tape, admiring all the things he can do, because I can’t do many of those things.”

  105. And look, I know I’ll never get you guys to say Brady is not the GOAT. I fully realize you are entitled to your opinions. I just think your giving way too much credit to the QB for wins, when defenses, special teams and coaching are all factors too.

    Brady had one heck of a second half in the Super Bowl last year. No one is denying that, but it would have meant nothing if the Patriots defense hadn’t shut down that prolific offense of Atlanta that was scoring at will throughout the playoffs until then.

  106. “I don’t agree [that I’m the GOAT], and I’ll tell you why. I know myself as a player. I’m really a product of what I’ve been around, who I was coached by, what I played against, in the era I played in. I really believe if a lot of people were in my shoes they could accomplish the same kinds of things. So I’ve been very fortunate.”

    – Tom Brady

    ^ Here we see Brady acknowledging the fact that he’s been lucky to be on great teams with great coaches his entire career. And he isn’t lying.

    Brady is right, there are a lot of QBs who would be able to do the same things if they were in Brady’s shoes. Brees, Manning, Rodgers, Montana, there are plenty of all time greats that would have had similar results or better on that team with that coaching staff.

  107. “Brady heaps praise on every player in the league. Then he beats them.”
    ————–

    Brady has never beaten Rodgers. Never. Rodgers is undefeated against Brady.

    Not that wins and losses are determined by QBs in the first place. Wins and losses are determined by entire teams, not QBs.

    Otherwise you’re admitting that Eli Manning is better than Brady too.

    While Rodgers certainly is better than Brady, Eli is not…even though Eli has won more games head-to-head. That’s because entire teams win games, not quarterbacks.

  108. Aaron Rodgers is 1-0 against Brady, in a regular season game in GB. Idiotic argument. Rodgers is like PManning and DBrees. Brady is Montana plus.

  109. Brady is Mr Humble and Mr Team. Always says the right things. Nobody wins SBowls against Seattle’s historic D, down 14 in the 4th, or down 28-3 late in the 3rd against ATL. NOBODY. Certainly not Rodgers, if he ever gets back there.

  110. revelation123 says:
    Jun 29, 2017 6:06 PM
    Brady is right, there are a lot of QBs who would be able to do the same things if they were in Brady’s shoes. Brees, Manning, Rodgers, Montana, there are plenty of all time greats that would have had similar results or better on that team with that coaching staff.
    —-
    The difference of course is “woulda, coulda” and all that is opinion.

    Brady’s accomplishments are fact. 🙂

  111. Here’s why a top scoring defense doesn’t matter as much as you think it does.


    Of course I meant a top scoring defense as the sole barometer to measure a quality defense doesn’t matter as much as you think it does.

    Brady has had good defenses go to Super Bowls with him and also horrific ones. But the Patriots defense has never been to a Super Bowl with anything less than really good QB play. Funny that. 🙂

  112. The main thing for me that puts Brady over Rodgers besides the rings is… Brady is almost 40 and he is winning Super Bowls and is still elite as elite gets. Brady even at 40 has proven he still has the ability to make his team around him better. He can still put a team on his back and carry them to wins and rings. Longetivity is just as important as ability when you’re talking about the GOAT. 🙂

    And don’t come at me that “3-1 without him” nonsense… they were not a Super Bowl team without the services of the GOAT last year, that is indisputable. There’s also a very good chance they’re not a playoff team either. That’s how lost they looked against Buffalo at home when they lost 16-0. 9-7 most likely.

    People talk about Rodgers physical tools and abilities and rightfully so BUT….his kind of abilities don’t age very well. 🙂 At least if you look at history. Can Rodgers keep doing this at 35? At 40? I have my doubts. But hey we shall see…

  113. You hear that, Brady?

    A guy you won the Superbowl with ranks you lower than a guy he’s never played a game with.

    Ouch, that must hurt, Brady. Do you really suck that bad?

    No?

    Prove it.

    (thanks Marty)

  114. srvmustang says:
    Jun 27, 2017 10:28 AM

    And you never graduated from the 1st grade and know nothing about football, but somehow you’re still allowed to post here.
    ————————————————

    I thought not having graduated 1st grade was a prerequisite here? Must just be in the Steeler fan’s threads.

  115. Brady has O.K. arm strength.
    —-
    Actually he has excellent arm strength and always did. The short to intermediate passing game would fall flat on its face if he had anything less.

  116. Are we talking over the course of their whole career up to the present? Then even Rodgers agrees it is Brady, citing him as the GOAT. But if we’re talking just in the present? That is a tougher one to decide. I’d opt for Rodgers, though only by a smidgen.

  117. In the whole of Brady’s career, his defense has never allowed more than 41 points in a game (3 total games with 40+ points allowed). In the post season, Brady’s defense has allow more than 30 points 2 times (31 and 34).

    Rodgers on the other hand, his defense gave up more than 41 points 3 times just this past season; and in the playoffs for his career has allowed 44 or more points 3 times.

  118. Rodgers might have style points on Brady, but Brady has more rings, all 5 of which he won with last-second heroics while the rest of the world went nuts and he kept calm.

    And THAT’S how you judge quarterbacks. It’s as simple as that, it really is.

    There’s a story told about the 1989 Super Bowl. Cincinnati had just scored and gone ahead with less than 2 minutes to go. Their offense was standing on the sideline and someone said “well, we’ve won the Super Bowl.”

    “Don’t be so sure” said someone else, rumored to be Chris Collinsworth, “have you seen who is playing Quarterback for San Francisco?” That someone, of course, was Joe Montana, and we all know what happened next.

    In every sport the BEST player is the one who rises to the occasion when the pressure is on – Jordan, Bird, Magic are the best known examples in the NBA. In the NFL Brady has a rep for that, and every player in the league knows it.

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