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Tom Brady finishes first in Top 100 players poll

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NFL Network likes to fill the slowest part of the offseason with a list of the Top 100 players in the league, and this year, for the first time, a player has repeated as No. 1.

Patriots quarterback Tom Brady ranked as the best player in the league in this year’s poll of players, the second time he has been so honored. Brady also finished first the first time NFL Network did the poll, in 2011. Other players to finish first are Aaron Rodgers in 2012, Adrian Peterson in 2013, Peyton Manning in 2014, J.J. Watt in 2015 and Cam Newton in 2016.

The value of the Top 100 players list has been questioned, as many players say that they and their fellow players don’t really take the voting — which asks players to list their Top 20 players — seriously. And every year there are some rankings that are head scratchers. This year Watt called his own ranking “a joke.”

After Brady, this year’s Top 5 consisted of No. 2 Von Miller, No. 3 Julio Jones, No. 4 Antonio Brown, No. 5 Khalil Mack, No. 6 Aaron Rodgers, No. 7 Ezekiel Elliott, No. 8 Odell Beckham, No. 9 Le’Veon Bell and No. 10 Matt Ryan.

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  1. SidFarkus says: Jun 27, 2017 6:23 AM

    Mack should be #1, Carr #2, Cooper #3

  2. joetoronto says: Jun 27, 2017 6:35 AM

    There’s no way a one dimensional player like Von Miller should beat out a complete player like Khalil Mack.

    Miller is constantly getting run over.

  3. Lemmy Aksyadis says: Jun 27, 2017 6:37 AM

    Of course he is. Serious or not, you don’t vote another player #1 unless there’s a reason. A few curmudgeons aside, the NFLPA membership knows the real deal.

    And yes, we know that someday he will hang up the cleats. After all, it’s been predicted every year since, well since 2001. Bound to happen sooner or later.

    Now we will resume our regular programming of trollish comments about cheating, hair plugs blah blah blah.

  4. mrclutch5569 says: Jun 27, 2017 6:46 AM

    I get Brady at #1 but Rodgers is criminally undervalued in my opinion. I certainly would have had him at least at #2

  5. dansardo says: Jun 27, 2017 6:59 AM

    What a miserable year for the trolls that hate the pats, you almost have to feel sorry for them….

  6. exinsidetrader says: Jun 27, 2017 7:11 AM

    Khalil Mack would have been a good fit with the Bills, but, yeah, the Bills were the Bills so no.

  7. deneb1973 says: Jun 27, 2017 7:18 AM

    “For Love of the Game” (Costner’s baseball movie)football style. Goodell may have tried to tarnish Brady’s image with the ludicrous Deflategate debacle to appease the 31 jealous owners but Brady has the last laugh and has kicked sand into the faces of the of the childish other owners. One for the thumb and NE will stand alone with six Super Bowl wins while Belichick will surpass Lombardi’s five championships. Would anyone be surprised if Brady and Belichick walk into the sunset if they win another Super Bowl? If they do the NFL can embrace the new Raider’s Era or perhaps a thrilling rivalry between the Raiders and Patriots while the Jets flounder under Woody. Belichick was so right in bailing on the Jets.

  8. upyoursnfu says: Jun 27, 2017 7:20 AM

    Patriots fans will still complain

  9. Della Street says: Jun 27, 2017 7:22 AM

    Watt didn’t think the list was a joke when he was voted No. 1.

  10. RandyinRoxbury says: Jun 27, 2017 7:27 AM

    So proud of TB12, ❤ him.
    #Goat

  11. jag1959 says: Jun 27, 2017 7:31 AM

    The top 5 consisted of 10 players? No wonder players don’t take it seriously.

  12. ikeclanton says: Jun 27, 2017 7:37 AM

    At least they got it right. I still think it’s funny that because Drew Brees puts up 5000 yds per year, that there are some that would rank him ahead of Brady. Brees, Rodgers, and even Ryan will be Hall of Famers, but they’re not in Brady’s league. He should get his own wing.

  13. vdub1980 says: Jun 27, 2017 7:42 AM

    joetoronto says:
    Jun 27, 2017 6:35 AM
    There’s no way a one dimensional player like Von Miller should beat out a complete player like Khalil Mack.

    Miller is constantly getting run over.

    ……………………………………….

    You must of been sleeping or hiding under a rock during super bowl 50. Let me refresh your memory, 9 total tackles 5 sacks 1 int and 1 pass defenses. Pretty good for a 1 dimensional player

  14. vinzclorth0 says: Jun 27, 2017 7:44 AM

    Tom Brady = the Greatest QB of All Time

  15. Flash1287 says: Jun 27, 2017 7:47 AM

    Tom Brady #1 AGAIN

    Suck it crybabies, you have NOTHING!

    #GOAT
    #5xchamp

  16. Akula says: Jun 27, 2017 7:58 AM

    I would like to see Bell behind the Dallas line. I would put him ahead of Elliott with his third down ability.

  17. stucats says: Jun 27, 2017 7:59 AM

    ZEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEKE!

  18. whywerule says: Jun 27, 2017 7:59 AM

    No matter what a person thinks of these polls, being voted in the Top 5 seven straight seasons is pretty much the definition of R-E-S-P-E-C-T.

    Not to mention G-O-A-T.

  19. usedjock says: Jun 27, 2017 8:00 AM

    I am in no doubt in the minority on this one but does this really matter?

    But, I will admit it is good to hear some football (sort of) talk for a change.

  20. kcchefs58 says: Jun 27, 2017 8:04 AM

    This is the year Brady takes the Peyton plunge.

  21. nyneal says: Jun 27, 2017 8:13 AM

    This poll is so stupid. I have no problem with Brady being #1. He is the best QB of his era by far.
    But — there is no way any of those players that are ranked ahead of Aaron Rodgers and Matt Ryan can be ahead of them. QB is by far the most difficult position to play and as Tom Brady has shown time and time again, the players around a QB can be replaced and the team will still keep on trucking. Not so with the QB.
    J.J. Watt had it right. This poll is a complete joke.

  22. nbcwantsitsmoneyback says: Jun 27, 2017 8:15 AM

    I think Miller and Rodgers should switch spots. at least that way you have Brady and Rodgers as 1a and 1b and Mack and Miller as 5a and 5b

  23. inyourmind says: Jun 27, 2017 8:17 AM

    no one cares

  24. walker615 says: Jun 27, 2017 8:18 AM

    Ignorant idiocy, joetoronto. Check the PFF run grades between Miller and Mack, bud.

  25. raidernation210 says: Jun 27, 2017 8:34 AM

    Mack better than Miller and it’s not even close

  26. nhpats says: Jun 27, 2017 8:53 AM

    #7 Ezekiel Elliott…..pretty darn good for a rookie

  27. finnster77 says: Jun 27, 2017 8:56 AM

    The premise is silly.
    Look at the top two. It’s apples to oranges. Brady may be the best passer, Miller the best pass rusher, but they play a completely different game.

  28. rideforjesus says: Jun 27, 2017 8:57 AM

    Tom Brady……GOAT

    That is all you have to say…

  29. rideforjesus says: Jun 27, 2017 9:07 AM

    This voting that he speaks about….

    Have any of you seen the way the players vote? On TV I have watched several players stumble with names and positions.

    It looks like not a lot of effort and time and thought on the player voting seems to take place.

    I realize that what I see on TV is a snapshot in time and a limited sampling… but if 9 out of the 10 reflect my comments…….well… I think you can see where I am going with this.

    Good players get left off….while other players ride notoriety and past glory

  30. tylawspick6 says: Jun 27, 2017 9:16 AM

    joetoronto says:
    Jun 27, 2017 6:35 AM
    There’s no way a one dimensional player like Von Miller should beat out a complete player like Khalil Mack.

    Miller is constantly getting run over.

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    I agree completely…Been saying it for years. Von Miller is Clay Matthews. One dimensional, liability vs the run, makes as many mistakes fundamentally as he does collecting sacks.

    – Pats Fan

  31. tylawspick6 says: Jun 27, 2017 9:21 AM

    nyneal says:
    Jun 27, 2017 8:13 AM
    This poll is so stupid. I have no problem with Brady being #1. He is the best QB of his era by far.
    But — there is no way any of those players that are ranked ahead of Aaron Rodgers and Matt Ryan can be ahead of them. QB is by far the most difficult position to play and as Tom Brady has shown time and time again, the players around a QB can be replaced and the team will still keep on trucking. Not so with the QB.
    J.J. Watt had it right. This poll is a complete joke.

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    Agree again.

    – Pats Fan

    PS Rodgers was as lethal as any player from Week 8 on, when he predicted GB would make the playoffs and he led the way. That was Larry Bird type stuff there. Said he’d do it and he did it.

    I would have gone Brady 1, Rodgers 2.

    Von Miller being in the top 10 itself is a major question. He’s a self promoter, is likely using Gomer’s Chinese roids from Guyer, since he tested positive for amphetamine both in 2011 and 2013, with no positive tests since.

    Any team that has a good run game, just runs right at him for most of the game, and he disappears.

    I’ve only seen him play well when my team’s RT has turf toe or he plays my team’s B Squad. In 2017, he’ll be invisible yet again vs my team, as is the usual.

  32. mlvcfan says: Jun 27, 2017 9:23 AM

    deneb1973 says:
    Jun 27, 2017 7:18 AM

    One for the thumb and NE will stand alone with six Super Bowl wins

    _______________________________________

    I guess Brady is the 6 fingered man, & it gives him a competitive advantage

  33. tylawspick6 says: Jun 27, 2017 9:24 AM

    You must of been sleeping or hiding under a rock during super bowl 50. Let me refresh your memory, 9 total tackles 5 sacks 1 int and 1 pass defenses. Pretty good for a 1 dimensional player

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    Guyer Institute. Chinese roids.

    It was well documented, and for some reason, Goodell had no problem cheating NFL fans again to protect some agenda about a HOF QB’s legacy in his last season.

    Tagliabue had the courage to OUT another HOF QB’s legacy when that HOF QB set aside salary to intentionally cheat the entire NFL and the salary cap to gain personnel advantages for 16+ games in 1995, 1996 and 1997.

    Von Miller is a sack collector and a one dimensional one trick pony, but I am glad he’s well liked by players throughout the league.

    lol

  34. tylawspick6 says: Jun 27, 2017 9:25 AM

    kcchefs58 says:
    Jun 27, 2017 8:04 AM
    This is the year Brady takes the Peyton plunge.

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    Care to wager? Let me know and we’ll set something up off the board here.

    How does 10K sound?

  35. finnymcphin says: Jun 27, 2017 9:29 AM

    Della Street says:
    Jun 27, 2017 7:22 AM
    Watt didn’t think the list was a joke when he was voted No. 1.
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    Are you really throwing shade at a player who thought he was ranked too high? Watt thought it was a joke that he was ranked at 35 when he only played in 3 games. The link is right there in the story.

  36. pauldeba says: Jun 27, 2017 9:31 AM

    Brady will be out of the league by January, 2023

  37. bullcharger says: Jun 27, 2017 9:31 AM

    joetoronto says:
    Jun 27, 2017 6:35 AM
    There’s no way a one dimensional player like Von Miller should beat out a complete player like Khalil Mack.
    Miller is constantly getting run over.

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    I agree. Mack is the best defensive player in the league at the moment.

  38. ibillwt says: Jun 27, 2017 9:32 AM

    Brady’s level of dominance over two decades is just unreal and then to do what he’s done over the past three years? Capped off by the impossible in a Super Bowl? All you can say is that we will never see anything like it again in our life time.

  39. akira1971 says: Jun 27, 2017 9:33 AM

    Della Street says:

    Watt didn’t think the list was a joke when he was voted No. 1.
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    He said it was a joke because he shouldn’t have been ranked so high because he was injured all season.

  40. bullcharger says: Jun 27, 2017 9:33 AM

    walker615 says:
    Jun 27, 2017 8:18 AM
    Ignorant idiocy, joetoronto. Check the PFF run grades between Miller and Mack, bud.

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    I have to go with the eye test. Mack is a better player on a worse overall defense. Mack reminds me of LT. Miller is really a pass rusher. He’s the best pass rusher in the league, but he isn’t a complete defender.

  41. bullcharger says: Jun 27, 2017 9:34 AM

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    whywerule says:
    Jun 27, 2017 7:59 AM
    No matter what a person thinks of these polls, being voted in the Top 5 seven straight seasons is pretty much the definition of R-E-S-P-E-C-T.
    Not to mention G-O-A-T.

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    Actually top 4. And imagine that was 10 years into his career.

  42. sb44champs says: Jun 27, 2017 9:38 AM

    Just bc Brady happens to be on the most complete team with the best coach ever he’s the best? Put Peyton Manning, Brees or Rogers on those Patriot teams with Belichick and they would have just as many rings as Brady. It’s a simple truth that Patriot fans would never agree with but it’s reality

  43. RE LEE says: Jun 27, 2017 9:40 AM

    Who else should it be?

  44. bradygirl12 says: Jun 27, 2017 9:46 AM

    The player know that Brady is the GOAT. They would know better than anyone.

  45. commentawaitingdeletion says: Jun 27, 2017 9:46 AM

    deneb1973 says:
    Jun 27, 2017 7:18 AM

    One for the thumb and NE will stand alone with six Super Bowl wins
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    Alone? Despite what you may think the Super Bowl was being played before 2000. There is another team that has already won 6. Someone from the Pittsburgh area should be along shortly to tell you all about them. If Brady gets another one he will stand alone as the only player to win 6 but New England would still need 1 more to stand alone.

  46. reddzen says: Jun 27, 2017 9:47 AM

    If Tom Brady is the #1 player in the league then why did he not take home the MVP last year? I agree with the post – it’s meaningless. It’s a popularity contest that tends to skew towards popular answer. I’m going with Von Miller – although I agree with joetoronto Khalil Mack is a beast.

  47. bradygirl12 says: Jun 27, 2017 9:47 AM

    The players know that Brady is the GOAT. They would know better than anyone.

  48. terripet says: Jun 27, 2017 9:51 AM

    Most overrated qb of all time

  49. hosanamusic says: Jun 27, 2017 10:08 AM

    Brady V. Miller for #1 and #2 is pretty on point.

  50. gauchosporlife says: Jun 27, 2017 10:08 AM

    Can’t believe a dinosaur is better than the majority of NFL players.

  51. churchofthehoody says: Jun 27, 2017 10:12 AM

    If Tom Brady is the #1 player in the league then why did he not take home the MVP last year?
    ________________________________

    If Matt Ryan was league MVP then why did he choke in the 2nd half???

    fallacious thinking is fun isn’t it?

  52. thun5der says: Jun 27, 2017 10:12 AM

    SB44 i think you are confused about the meaning of the word ‘reality.” Reality describes events that have actually occurred, you know, in real life. In the REAL WORLD, not your fantasy world, Brady has won 5 rings, while Peyton , Brees and Rodgers have COMBINED for 4. This is REALITY

  53. tylawspick6 says: Jun 27, 2017 10:13 AM

    reddzen says:
    Jun 27, 2017 9:47 AM
    If Tom Brady is the #1 player in the league then why did he not take home the MVP last year? I agree with the post – it’s meaningless. It’s a popularity contest that tends to skew towards popular answer. I’m going with Von Miller – although I agree with joetoronto Khalil Mack is a beast.

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    Umm, why doesn’t he take it home every other year? Stats are for losers.

    Gomer Manning has all these MVPs and then Brady would outplay him in a postseason unless trotting out a B Squad due to a rash of injuries.

    I mean, BB has 2 Exec of the Year of the awards with Poili from 15 years ago and has none with Caserio, yet in the last 3-4 years, if not 5-7, some of his GM work has been epic beyond belief, in the cap era.

    So, you tell us how on god’s green earth do each of them not have more awards?

    BB could easily win the Coach Of the Year or Exec of the Year every year. Go look at the half baked choices who win those awards. It’s creepy.

    Everyone wants to rave about the next flavor of the day, specifically because they can’t get themselves to compliment BB or Brady any further. I’ve never seen anything like it in the 35 years I’ve been watching sports.

    I know the answer…Jealousy and the fact the media does not want to give them any more trophies to bolster their incredible resumes. That’s why. And, they felt sorry for Gomer by comparison. HE’s goofy, has a receding hairline, talks funny, and choked so many times with loaded weaponry in the postseason, so the Manning Family Doctrine needs to make sure the “boys” are taken care of by Daddy Manning and the Entitled Boys.

  54. sb44champs says: Jun 27, 2017 10:31 AM

    No reality is Pats fans never acknowledging that if Brady was on the Saints or Packers all those years he would have one measly Super Bowl win on his resume as well. Again, put Brees or Rogers on those Patriot teams and any level headed fan would have to agree that they would have more than one measly Super Bowl win by now….sheesh it’s not that hard to understand

  55. painsyndicate says: Jun 27, 2017 10:38 AM

    1. Brady
    2. Rodgers
    3. Jones
    4. Mack
    5. Beckham
    6. Brown
    7. David Johnson
    8. Bell (maybe)
    9. Watt
    10. Brees

  56. navyvandal says: Jun 27, 2017 10:42 AM

    As a pats fan, I actually think Rodgers would’ve gotten #1 because of that bush league scandal keeping Tom out 4 weeks.! But he ABSOLUTELY should be at #2 if tommy was voted 1. Definitely bad rankings.

  57. bullcharger says: Jun 27, 2017 10:51 AM

    terripet says:
    Jun 27, 2017 9:51 AM
    Most overrated qb of all time

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    Keep the troll train moving. Good for you.

  58. greggallmansliver says: Jun 27, 2017 10:58 AM

    sb44champs says:
    Jun 27, 2017 9:38 AM
    Just bc Brady happens to be on the most complete team with the best coach ever he’s the best? Put Peyton Manning, Brees or Rogers on those Patriot teams with Belichick and they would have just as many rings as Brady. It’s a simple truth that Patriot fans would never agree with but it’s reality
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    Brady is the first to say he his success comes from the people and the team he surrounds himself with. But don’t forget he is a part of the philosophy that drives the teams’ success. Selfless, hard work, dedication. These were players that ranked him number 1. It’s for a reason – he wins. All we hear all year is how much he’s hated, how he cheats, not that good but when it comes down to it they vote him number 1. Says a lot. I love the argument that Brady would nothing without BB or BB would be nothing without Brady. The truth is both are right, it’s the combination that makes them successful.

  59. bullcharger says: Jun 27, 2017 10:59 AM

    sb44champs says:
    Jun 27, 2017 10:31 AM
    No reality is Pats fans never acknowledging that if Brady was on the Saints or Packers all those years he would have one measly Super Bowl win on his resume as well. Again, put Brees or Rogers on those Patriot teams and any level headed fan would have to agree that they would have more than one measly Super Bowl win by now….sheesh it’s not that hard to understand

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    And you know that because you are Nostradamus or something?

    It’s fun to speculate, but you don’t know how much was Brady vs BB. You will never know. Belichick doesn’t get the opportunity if Brady doesn’t drive it down the field with 1:21 left in the 2001/2002 Super Bowl and BB certainly wasn’t good before that. They lose that one or even if they went out on the tuck rule play, history is different. They are symbiotic.

    The same way you don’t know how much was Walsh vs Montana vs Rice. There’s no way to know. They all played their part depending on the year.

    You can’t say what would have happened if they were on another team. There’s no way to know.

    The two exceptions I would make are Peyton, who is now the only QB to win a Super Bowl with two teams and Kurt Warner who got back to the Super Bowl and could have won it with Arizona. You know those guys could do it, because you saw it.

  60. sb44champs says: Jun 27, 2017 11:03 AM

    Enough with the Brady slurping. Being lucky enough to get drafted into probably the best NFL team/coaching situation with the Patriots does not mean Brady is the best ever. It just means Brady was drafted into the best situation a QB could ever dream of and I remember Brady actually acknowledging that a few weeks ago in an article here on PFT. Yeah Brady has taken advantage of his awesome situation by winning 5 Super Bowls but with the talent Rogers and Brees have shown over the years it would be absolutely ridiculous to think that they wouldn’t have a similar track record of Super Bowl wins…. TRUTH

  61. bullcharger says: Jun 27, 2017 11:03 AM

    SidFarkus says:
    Jun 27, 2017 6:23 AM
    Mack should be #1, Carr #2, Cooper #3

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    That’s funny, but those are 3 great players. It shows you why Oak is looking to contend. If Lynch can play well they will be a tough out.

  62. bullcharger says: Jun 27, 2017 11:09 AM

    reddzen says:
    Jun 27, 2017 9:47 AM
    If Tom Brady is the #1 player in the league then why did he not take home the MVP last year? I agree with the post – it’s meaningless. It’s a popularity contest that tends to skew towards popular answer. I’m going with Von Miller – although I agree with joetoronto Khalil Mack is a beast.

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    The MVP is a regular season award. There is a logic answer to that question. Brady missed 4 games in the regular season so his statistics were not as good as others in the running for MVP unless you looked at them per game.

    This poll taken in the off season after the Super Bowl. What Brady did in the Super Bowl weighs heavily in the players choosing him first. That was incredible for many if not most of the players in the league. Brady even inspired Barcelona to think they could come back in a game with a big deficit. That was an amazing feat.

    That’s why Brady is number #1.

    As a side note, I really don’t like the MVP being regular season only. It’s kind of silly.

  63. eaglesw00t says: Jun 27, 2017 11:19 AM

    Im fine with Brady as one, but the rest is BS.

    Nobody has ever voted on a poll, other than writing 20 names down on a card when they walk into NFL films.

    Having Dak at 14, and Wentz at 171 is a joke.

  64. bullcharger says: Jun 27, 2017 11:19 AM

    gauchosporlife says:
    Jun 27, 2017 10:08 AM
    Can’t believe a dinosaur is better than the majority of NFL players.

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    It’s logical that given life expectancy continues to increase and health science continues to improve that players can play better for longer. The QB position is also one where (at least for a pocket passer) skills diminish more slowly then other positions.

    The main thing going against this is really the money. Why play longer and risk your body. Brady is unique from that perspective. He loves it.

    Ultimately though it comes down to winning. Brady is number one because he won the Super Bowl and particularly because of the way he won it.

  65. firedog784 says: Jun 27, 2017 11:24 AM

    >>>I love the argument that Brady would nothing without BB or BB would be nothing without Brady. The truth is both are right, it’s the combination that makes them successful.<<<

    Gee, Vince Lombardi would have been nothing without Bart Starr. Or Bart Starr would have been nothing without Vince Lombardi

    Bill Walsh would have been nothing without Joe Montana, Montana nothing without Bill Walsh.

    Chuck Knoll nothing without Terry Bradshaw, Bradshaw nothing without Chuck Knoll.

    And on and on. I guess everyone is of equal talent according to those that use the Brady or Belichick argument. Trent Dilfer would have 5 Super Bowl rings had he been the QB for B.B.

    It's good to see that someone gets it.

    I mean you could do this with any player at any position. If so and so ran behind that line instead of his line he'd have put up as many yards. It's ridiculous.

  66. 345snarkavenue says: Jun 27, 2017 11:26 AM

    dansardo says:
    Jun 27, 2017 6:59 AM
    What a miserable year for the trolls that hate the pats, you almost have to feel sorry for them….

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    valid point, but we don’t.

  67. bullcharger says: Jun 27, 2017 11:27 AM

    sb44champs says:
    Jun 27, 2017 11:03 AM
    Enough with the Brady slurping. Being lucky enough to get drafted into probably the best NFL team/coaching situation with the Patriots does not mean Brady is the best ever. It just means Brady was drafted into the best situation a QB could ever dream of and I remember Brady actually acknowledging that a few weeks ago in an article here on PFT. Yeah Brady has taken advantage of his awesome situation by winning 5 Super Bowls but with the talent Rogers and Brees have shown over the years it would be absolutely ridiculous to think that they wouldn’t have a similar track record of Super Bowl wins…. TRUTH

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    Oh… you mean like when the Patriots drafted Brady in 2000 and they had a number one over all draft pick at QB that had already taken them to a Super Bowl 4 years earlier. Then they proceeded to go 5-11 with basically the same team Brady won the Super Bowl with the next year. I see. That amazing coaching staff that hadn’t done anything at all and probably was on the way to being fired? Brady was sooooo lucky to have to climb his way from the 4th QB back up spot. Yep.

    If you use hindsight it looks good, but nobody in their right mind wanted to play for NE at that time.

    TRUTH

  68. steelcurtainn says: Jun 27, 2017 11:28 AM

    That must be the cheater’s poll.

  69. thun5der says: Jun 27, 2017 11:29 AM

    again, SB44, you are confused about what ‘reality” means, geez

  70. bullcharger says: Jun 27, 2017 11:29 AM

    eaglesw00t says:
    Jun 27, 2017 11:19 AM
    Im fine with Brady as one, but the rest is BS.
    Nobody has ever voted on a poll, other than writing 20 names down on a card when they walk into NFL films.
    Having Dak at 14, and Wentz at 171 is a joke.

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    Wentz will be up there next year.

  71. thun5der says: Jun 27, 2017 11:30 AM

    SB44, geez, you are still confused regarding the meaning of the word REALITY

  72. mmack66 says: Jun 27, 2017 11:31 AM

    Can all of the Las Vegas Raiders bozos wait until they win a playoff game at least?

  73. fmc651 says: Jun 27, 2017 11:37 AM

    This list is a joke. Clay Fabio Matthews is 82 when he should be outside of the top 100. He had 20 tackles and 4 assists. All for $13 million, oh but he had 5 sacks. Back ups have more than that.

  74. mmack66 says: Jun 27, 2017 11:40 AM

    gauchosporlife says:
    Jun 27, 2017 10:08 AM

    Can’t believe a dinosaur is better than the majority of NFL players.
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    It’s just a popularity contest, so you don’t have to get so worked up about it.

  75. sb44champs says: Jun 27, 2017 11:43 AM

    …with the talent Rogers and Brees have shown over the years it would be absolutely ridiculous to think that they wouldn’t have a similar track record of Super Bowl wins….

  76. sgordon909usdm419 says: Jun 27, 2017 11:44 AM

    You must of been sleeping or hiding under a rock during super bowl 50. Let me refresh your memory, 9 total tackles 5 sacks 1 int and 1 pass defenses. Pretty good for a 1 dimensional player
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    YOU must’ve been sleeping with that totally incorrect stats line for Von Miller’s SB MVP game…..lol

  77. joetoronto says: Jun 27, 2017 11:58 AM

    exinsidetrader says:
    Jun 27, 2017 7:11 AM
    Khalil Mack would have been a good fit with the Bills, but, yeah, the Bills were the Bills so no.
    ***********************************
    He was literally in their backyard at the University of Buffalo, and they passed.

    Oh, Buffalo.

  78. badmoonrison says: Jun 27, 2017 12:04 PM

    Von over Mack? Seriously? Who decides this list?

  79. eddievortex says: Jun 27, 2017 12:17 PM

    Della Street says:
    Jun 27, 2017 7:22 AM

    Watt didn’t think the list was a joke when he was voted No. 1.
    __________________________________

    You read what Watt said incorrectly…He was saying the list was a joke this year with him being voted #35 and only playing 3 games!

    Comprehension is important!

  80. badmoonrison says: Jun 27, 2017 12:19 PM

    Joe Toronto is the Man. If you’re ever in Southern Oregon Im buying you a beer. Or 5.

  81. nhpats says: Jun 27, 2017 12:28 PM

    badmoonrison says:
    Jun 27, 2017 12:04 PM
    Von over Mack? Seriously? Who decides this list?

    ———–

    The players themselves “decide this list”

  82. patsfan4lifesbchamps says: Jun 27, 2017 12:49 PM

    Brady is the best ever SYSTEM QB, it’s not even a debate anymore. Haters keep on hating.

  83. mmack66 says: Jun 27, 2017 12:50 PM

    badmoonrison says:
    Jun 27, 2017 12:04 PM

    Von over Mack? Seriously? Who decides this list?
    ———————–

    Players, who are slightly more objective than the typical subjective Las Vegas Raiders fan.

  84. srvmustang says: Jun 27, 2017 12:55 PM

    terripet says:
    Jun 27, 2017 9:51 AM
    Most overrated qb of all time

    8 52

    ///////////

    You are the most ignorant poster of all time.

  85. srvmustang says: Jun 27, 2017 12:58 PM

    sb44champs says:
    Jun 27, 2017 9:38 AM
    Just bc Brady happens to be on the most complete team with the best coach ever he’s the best? Put Peyton Manning, Brees or Rogers on those Patriot teams with Belichick and they would have just as many rings as Brady. It’s a simple truth that Patriot fans would never agree with but it’s reality

    12 48

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    Right. Because Bellichick was SOOO successful in Cleveland. Quit being Drew Brees’ personal fan-boy and come back to reality. Brady stands alone atop the Mt. Rushmore of QBs. And his resumé is still building…

  86. ahzroc says: Jun 27, 2017 12:59 PM

    Brady has done a great job. no question. He’s Great
    He has a great coach. (would any team decline the chance to have BB ? )
    he’s on a great team. (it takes a TEAM to get to and win a Super Bowl…Malcolm Butler)

    BUT…

    in terms of PLAYING THE POSITION of QUARTERBACK,
    How is Brady any better than Drew Brees?

  87. orrnumberfour says: Jun 27, 2017 1:01 PM

    Its got to just kill the Brady haters that their favorite player(s) — the ones that play against Brady — voted Tom as The Best.

  88. orrnumberfour says: Jun 27, 2017 1:04 PM

    So I guess all you Brady haters using “Belichick’s greatness” as your logic for explaining Brady’s unmatched success would be cool with renaming the Lombardi trophy, “The Belichick Trophy”, right?

  89. finnymcphin says: Jun 27, 2017 1:04 PM

    sb44champs says:
    Jun 27, 2017 9:38 AM
    Just bc Brady happens to be on the most complete team with the best coach ever he’s the best? Put Peyton Manning, Brees or Rogers on those Patriot teams with Belichick and they would have just as many rings as Brady. It’s a simple truth that Patriot fans would never agree with but it’s reality
    ————————–

    I am the opposite of a Patriots fan but I do respect what that organization and Brady have accomplished together. They are a package deal The reality is Rodgers might have been able to duplicate Brady’s ring total because he might have put winning first and accepted Brady style contracts in order to win those rings, their contract histories show Manning and Brees never would have. If you want to talk reality you have to look at the full picture. Typing truth in caps doesn’t alter it’s meaning. The truth is Brady isn’t as physically talented as Rodgers and he never had entire teams built around accommodating his contract as well as his skills like Manning or Brees. Brady wins at a rate none of them have because of the way he sees the game, accepts his place in it and whether it’s on the field or in a contract does what it takes to win. You don’t have to like New England to appreciate just how great a winner Brady is. All you have to do is understand winning football is about more than just the physical skills you see displayed on any given Sunday. That and maybe summon a little objectivity.

  90. orrnumberfour says: Jun 27, 2017 1:08 PM

    in terms of PLAYING THE POSITION of QUARTERBACK,
    How is Brady any better than Drew Brees?
    ____________

    Nice theory. Unfortunately for you, it is one that you alone (maybe you could count a couple others on one hand) are advancing. The rest of the world knows who is # 1.

  91. dumbaseinstien says: Jun 27, 2017 1:09 PM

    Cheating has it’s advantages & fringe benefits.

  92. nhpats says: Jun 27, 2017 1:12 PM

    ahzroc says:
    Jun 27, 2017 12:59 PM
    Brady has done a great job. no question. He’s Great
    He has a great coach. (would any team decline the chance to have BB ? )
    he’s on a great team. (it takes a TEAM to get to and win a Super Bowl…Malcolm Butler)

    BUT…

    in terms of PLAYING THE POSITION of QUARTERBACK,
    How is Brady any better than Drew Brees?

    —————-

    He finds a way to win more games for his team…

  93. srvmustang says: Jun 27, 2017 1:14 PM

    steelcurtainn says:
    Jun 27, 2017 11:28 AM
    That must be the cheater’s poll.

    5 15

    ////////

    Given that it was the players who voted and a number of them were Steeler ‘roiders, you might have a point there.

  94. srvmustang says: Jun 27, 2017 1:17 PM

    patsfan4lifesbchamps says:
    Jun 27, 2017 12:49 PM
    Brady is the best ever SYSTEM QB, it’s not even a debate anymore. Haters keep on hating.

    0 5

    /////////

    Yep. Brady IS the system, and it’s won the Pats five SBs.

  95. Flash1287 says: Jun 27, 2017 1:23 PM

    patsfan4lifesbchamps says:
    Jun 27, 2017 12:49 PM
    Brady is the best ever SYSTEM QB, it’s not even a debate anymore. Haters keep on hating.

    Oh the irony
    Someone who’s not a patriot fan with a fake user name calling other people haters.

    And the “system QB” argument is just lame at this point

  96. ahzroc says: Jun 27, 2017 1:35 PM

    “in terms of PLAYING THE POSITION of QUARTERBACK,
    How is Brady any better than Drew Brees?

    —————-

    He finds a way to win more games for his team…”

    So, Brady plays DEFENSE and SPECIAL TEAMS too?

    WOW!
    He really IS the G.O.A.T. !

    Explain how, SPECIFICALLY, Brady is better AT PLAYING THE POSITION OF QUARTERBACK than Drew Brees…
    no one is able to do that!

  97. tylawspick6 says: Jun 27, 2017 1:37 PM

    Brady is the first to say he his success comes from the people and the team he surrounds himself with. But don’t forget he is a part of the philosophy that drives the teams’ success. Selfless, hard work, dedication. These were players that ranked him number 1. It’s for a reason – he wins. All we hear all year is how much he’s hated, how he cheats, not that good but when it comes down to it they vote him number 1. Says a lot. I love the argument that Brady would nothing without BB or BB would be nothing without Brady. The truth is both are right, it’s the combination that makes them successful.

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    Absolutely. Not sure why this is so hard to get. People who see things only in black and whites, aren’t very intelligent.

    I will say, no way Brady is as successful without BB. I do think BB would have 3 rings by now, with a different QB he groomed.

    If you win 11 games with an aging roster and a Matt Cassel, that’s pretty darn good.

  98. bullcharger says: Jun 27, 2017 1:37 PM

    patsfan4lifesbchamps says:
    Jun 27, 2017 12:49 PM
    Brady is the best ever SYSTEM QB, it’s not even a debate anymore. Haters keep on hating.

    —————–

    Do the troll shuffle.

  99. tylawspick6 says: Jun 27, 2017 1:39 PM

    patsfan4lifesbchamps says:
    Jun 27, 2017 12:49 PM
    Brady is the best ever SYSTEM QB, it’s not even a debate anymore. Haters keep on hating.

    Oh the irony
    Someone who’s not a patriot fan with a fake user name calling other people haters.

    And the “system QB” argument is just lame at this point

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    The best is those trolls still doing it. I can’t tell which is worse:

    1. The trolls who still do it and are allowed by the mods.
    2. The dopes who can’t figure out their trollwork, based on how obvious it looks.

  100. tylawspick6 says: Jun 27, 2017 1:40 PM

    fmc651 says:
    Jun 27, 2017 11:37 AM
    This list is a joke. Clay Fabio Matthews is 82 when he should be outside of the top 100. He had 20 tackles and 4 assists. All for $13 million, oh but he had 5 sacks. Back ups have more than that.

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    Von Miller is the new Clay Matthews. Lots of self promotion and flash, but when you watch the players, some holes in their game at the 3-4 OLB role.

    Overrated and overpaid.

  101. bullcharger says: Jun 27, 2017 1:45 PM

    ahzroc says:
    Jun 27, 2017 12:59 PM
    Brady has done a great job. no question. He’s Great
    He has a great coach. (would any team decline the chance to have BB ? )
    he’s on a great team. (it takes a TEAM to get to and win a Super Bowl…Malcolm Butler)
    BUT…
    in terms of PLAYING THE POSITION of QUARTERBACK,
    How is Brady any better than Drew Brees?

    ———————-

    Because he can read defenses better. Because he is better under pressure. Because he is much better in the middle of the field. Because he is more accurate.

    Many reasons.

  102. badmoonrison says: Jun 27, 2017 1:46 PM

    mmack66 says:
    Jun 27, 2017 12:50 PM
    badmoonrison says:
    Jun 27, 2017 12:04 PM

    Von over Mack? Seriously? Who decides this list?
    ———————–

    Players, who are slightly more objective than the typical subjective Las Vegas Raiders fan.

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    “Slightly” being the most loosely used term.

  103. ahzroc says: Jun 27, 2017 1:58 PM

    “in terms of PLAYING THE POSITION of QUARTERBACK,
    How is Brady any better than Drew Brees?

    ———————-

    Because he can read defenses better. Because he is better under pressure. Because he is much better in the middle of the field. Because he is more accurate.

    Many reasons.”
    ———————
    HA !
    Drew Brees is the most accurate QB in NFL HISTORY
    Look it up! 3 Seasons over 70% …lifetime % leader.
    no -one reads defenses better than Brees!
    What a joke
    Part of greatness is consistency.
    Brees has led the NFL in Passing yrds the last 3 consecutive Seasons, 4 of the last 5 and 7 of the last 12 (NFL Record Most times leading the NFL in Passing yds)
    five 5000 seasons and 2 near misses of 4952 and 4870 (played 14.5 games re: 4870)
    so,
    IM STILL WAITING FOR THE SPECIFICS!

  104. gregfalco15 says: Jun 27, 2017 2:01 PM

    I know reasoning with trolls and kids is futile. As a wise man said, don’t argue with an idiot, he’ll bring you down to his level and then beat you with experience.

    But I’m honestly curious about this: why do wins belong to teams and coaches altogether, but stats are personal?

    In other words how can the 2013 QB records belong to Manning while the SB loss was a team effort?

  105. csb28 says: Jun 27, 2017 2:01 PM

    kcchefs58 says:
    Jun 27, 2017 8:04 AM
    This is the year Brady takes the Peyton plunge.

    12 118

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    Thanks Nostradomus.

  106. rob471773 says: Jun 27, 2017 2:14 PM

    tylawspick6 says:
    Jun 27, 2017 1:37 PM
    ——–

    If you win 11 games with an aging roster and a Matt Cassel, that’s pretty darn good.

    ——————–

    An “aging” roster?!? Talk about revisionist history. Cassell was handed the keys to the highest scoring offense in the history of the NFL, that just went 16-0 the year before. Gutting out at least 11 wins should be expected with the talent that was on that 2008 team.

  107. guitarkevin says: Jun 27, 2017 2:17 PM

    I’ll probably retire and collect Social Security before Brady retires. And I’m 47.

    Seriously Tom, please retire.

  108. srvmustang says: Jun 27, 2017 2:22 PM

    HA !
    Drew Brees is the most accurate QB in NFL HISTORY
    Look it up! 3 Seasons over 70% …lifetime % leader.
    no -one reads defenses better than Brees!
    What a joke
    Part of greatness is consistency.
    Brees has led the NFL in Passing yrds the last 3 consecutive Seasons, 4 of the last 5 and 7 of the last 12 (NFL Record Most times leading the NFL in Passing yds)
    five 5000 seasons and 2 near misses of 4952 and 4870 (played 14.5 games re: 4870)
    so,
    IM STILL WAITING FOR THE SPECIFICS!

    ///////

    If Drew Brees ever lifts his restraining order he had against you, you should get out of house arrest and ask the voting NFL players why they favored a 5-time SB winning QB who has been the model of consistency over 16 years, over a one-time SB winner who is a solid player but throws some of the most ludicrous interceptions at the worst moments of a game.

  109. nepatriot1 says: Jun 27, 2017 2:40 PM

    steelcurtainn says:
    Jun 27, 2017 11:28 AM
    That must be the cheater’s poll.
    ——————-
    Impossible. Not one Steeler was listed in the top 5.

  110. soxpatsceltsbruins says: Jun 27, 2017 2:41 PM

    sb44champs says:
    Jun 27, 2017 9:38 AM
    Just bc Brady happens to be on the most complete team with the best coach ever he’s the best? Put Peyton Manning, Brees or Rogers on those Patriot teams with Belichick and they would have just as many rings as Brady. It’s a simple truth that Patriot fans would never agree with but it’s reality

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    Hey sb44, you can’t use hypotheticals and then turn around and say they are “simple truths” and “reality”. If if if. IF my team only drafted Brady. IF we had Belichick as a coach. IF we had more wins. IF we played in a different division. These statements aren’t truths and they aren’t reality.

    The Pats ARE a great team. Brady IS a great QB. Belichick IS a great coach. These are simple truths. These are realistic statements. GOAT statements are hypotheticals. I could care less.

    The Hater train is rolling up. Hop back on and keep on hating.

  111. fishyinalittledishy says: Jun 27, 2017 3:07 PM

    Two things that really matter to a proper football player, rings or at the very least playoff football and getting paid. Brady has been paid very well but not top dollar because he is balancing success and money better than any modern player. He also understands what he has and not what grass might be greener which is unbelievable trait to have in a world were ” what’s in it for me. I beleive Brady also has trait that very few people have, they can turn negitves into a controlled methodical action which imo will keep him playing for a few years yet and will only stop when he has proven himself to himself and nobody else. Let’s face if he was to walk into a room full of the nfl’s greatest and some would have earned more money pro rata the room would go silent as he sauntered through and he would probably be embarrassed by it.

  112. fjw2 says: Jun 27, 2017 3:13 PM

    ahzroc says:
    Jun 27, 2017 12:59 PM

    BUT…

    in terms of PLAYING THE POSITION of QUARTERBACK,
    How is Brady any better than Drew Brees?

    ——————–

    For one thing, Brady can actually see over the linemen. Brees has to play with a serious height handicap. I tend to think that Brady reads defenses better than Brees and the Patriots run a more complicated offensive system than NO.

    But it doesn’t matter much what I think. The professional players of the NFL think Brady is a (much) better QB, so I’m going with them on that.

  113. ahzroc says: Jun 27, 2017 3:20 PM

    @ fjw2

    Brees has to find throwing lanes= more QB skill

    disagree 100% about “reading Defenses.

    No team in the NFL has more loaded into their offense than the Saints.

    over the last 12 seasons in total-
    #1 NFL offense = SAINTS

  114. ahzroc says: Jun 27, 2017 3:28 PM

    Also,
    Drew Brees has never had an All-Pro WR

  115. ahzroc says: Jun 27, 2017 3:34 PM

    in terms of
    MOST CONSISTENT…
    Who has been Most Consistent ?
    Brees BY A LONG WAY over Brady.

  116. bullcharger says: Jun 27, 2017 3:35 PM

    sb44champs says:
    Jun 27, 2017 11:43 AM
    …with the talent Rogers and Brees have shown over the years it would be absolutely ridiculous to think that they wouldn’t have a similar track record of Super Bowl wins….

    ——————-

    They don’t have a similar track record. That’s how I know.

    It’s not like those teams have bad coaches and bad players.

    In 2011 GB totally blew it. They should have gone undefeated. They blew the game to KC then blew the game to the Giants in the playoffs. Totally uninspired performance from Rodgers. Everyone was talking 3-peat and dynasty during the year.

    That was a massive choke job.

    On average most people would have rated the GB team talent from 2009 to 2016 to be equal or better than the Patriots on a position by position basis.

    There’s no excuse for GB and Rodgers.

    New Orleans has Bountygate, and they didn’t really recover from that fully, so that wasn’t on Brees and their defense just hasn’t been great. So I will give them that. However, with the make shift OL that Brady has had over some of these seasons, Brees would be a dead man. No way he could have put the team on his back the way Brady has.

  117. ahzroc says: Jun 27, 2017 3:37 PM

    and I would WELCOME , realty WELCOME the opinions of the NFL players on :
    In Terms of playing the Position of Quarterback,
    In what way would Brady be considered better than Brees

  118. harrisonhits2 says: Jun 27, 2017 3:39 PM

    “Right. Because Bellichick was SOOO successful in Cleveland.”

    Actually he was successful there. He took a rancid program, rebuilt it and won the only playoff game they’ve won in the last 25 years or something like that.

    Not Bill’s fault Modell dumped him as part of moving the team to Baltimore. Belichick had the program at the best point its been in a long long time.

    Fun fact that playoff win by the Browns was against the Pats.

  119. harrisonhits2 says: Jun 27, 2017 3:44 PM

    “You are the most ignorant poster of all time.”

    Naaa terripet isn’t that ignorant, just extremely stubborn. I don’t think she even believes a lot of what she posts, just does it to try and aggravate Pats fans.

  120. bullcharger says: Jun 27, 2017 3:48 PM

    ahzroc says:
    Jun 27, 2017 3:20 PM
    @ fjw2
    Brees has to find throwing lanes= more QB skill
    disagree 100% about “reading Defenses.
    No team in the NFL has more loaded into their offense than the Saints.
    over the last 12 seasons in total-
    #1 NFL offense = SAINTS

    ——————-

    I don’t care what Brees has to do… it matters what the results are. If Brady has an advantage because of height that doesn’t count as a positive for Brees. That means Brees is less of a QB. Most talented QB under 6’1″ isn’t the same thing as most talented QB.

    Brady’s only rival on reading defenses was Manning. Ask any player. That’s a hard one to quantify, but it’s pretty obvious. Brees isn’t known for that at all really.

    And in the last 12 years the Patriots are #2 overall and they are behind the Saints by 15.59 yards per game.

    Scoring offense, which is what actually matters though? Patriots.

    5596 for the Patriots

    New Orleans are 2nd at 5084 points.

    Basically another 3 points a game on average for the Patriots.

    So that argument is flawed. Brady has been better.

  121. nhpats says: Jun 27, 2017 3:49 PM

    ahzroc says:
    Jun 27, 2017 3:37 PM
    and I would WELCOME , realty WELCOME the opinions of the NFL players on :
    In Terms of playing the Position of Quarterback,
    In what way would Brady be considered better than Brees

    —————–

    Brady reads defenses better than Brees….
    Brady handles the blitz better than Brees…
    Brady moves in the pocket better than Brees…
    Brady throws fewer interceptions than Brees….
    Brady fumbles less often than Brees….

    Need I go on?

  122. bullcharger says: Jun 27, 2017 3:51 PM

    ahzroc says:
    Jun 27, 2017 3:20 PM
    @ fjw2
    Brees has to find throwing lanes= more QB skill
    disagree 100% about “reading Defenses.
    No team in the NFL has more loaded into their offense than the Saints.
    over the last 12 seasons in total-
    #1 NFL offense = SAINTS
    ——————-
    I don’t care what Brees has to do… it matters what the results are. If Brady has an advantage because of height that doesn’t count as a positive for Brees. That means Brees is less of a QB. Most talented QB under 6’1″ isn’t the same thing as most talented QB.
    Brady’s only rival on reading defenses was Manning. Ask any player. That’s a hard one to quantify, but it’s pretty obvious. Brees isn’t known for that at all really.
    And in the last 12 years the Patriots are #2 overall and they are behind the Saints by 15.59 yards per game.
    Scoring offense, which is what actually matters though? Patriots.
    5596 for the Patriots
    New Orleans are 2nd at 5084 points.
    Basically another 3 points a game on average for the Patriots.
    So that argument is flawed. Brady has been better.

    —————-

    On another note…

    Brees is 465 TD to 220 INT in his career.

    Brady is 456 TD to 152 INT.

    That’s a significant difference. 68 more picks for Brees.

  123. bullcharger says: Jun 27, 2017 3:58 PM

    harrisonhits2 says:
    Jun 27, 2017 3:39 PM
    “Right. Because Bellichick was SOOO successful in Cleveland.”
    Actually he was successful there. He took a rancid program, rebuilt it and won the only playoff game they’ve won in the last 25 years or something like that.
    Not Bill’s fault Modell dumped him as part of moving the team to Baltimore. Belichick had the program at the best point its been in a long long time.
    Fun fact that playoff win by the Browns was against the Pats.

    ———————–

    Modell hated Belichick and fired him. it wasn’t because of the move. Modell recommended to Kraft that he never hire BB. And BB won a playoff game. Sure… but he wasn’t great there. He was below average… and then he was below average in NE before Brady started too.

    5-11 in 2000 and 0-2 in 2001 and then Brady showed up and they went 14-3 and won the Super Bowl.

  124. j0esixpack says: Jun 27, 2017 4:05 PM

    Here we have active NFL players who express the consensus that Brady even at nearly age 40 is the best player in the NFL

    Speaking of NFL players – of ALL the hundreds of players who have played with Brady – most of whom have come from rival teams and/or have moved on to rival teams…

    … how many have come out and offered proof of how Brady cheated?

    That’s right. None.

    The Hatriots HATE to be reminded of that.

  125. Flash1287 says: Jun 27, 2017 4:48 PM

    nhpats says:
    Jun 27, 2017 3:49 PM
    ahzroc says:
    Jun 27, 2017 3:37 PM
    and I would WELCOME , realty WELCOME the opinions of the NFL players on :
    In Terms of playing the Position of Quarterback,
    In what way would Brady be considered better than Brees

    —————–

    Brady reads defenses better than Brees….
    Brady handles the blitz better than Brees…
    Brady moves in the pocket better than Brees…
    Brady throws fewer interceptions than Brees….
    Brady fumbles less often than Brees….

    Need I go on?

    Yes one more Bree’s plays at least 9 games a year indoors
    8 home 1 at Atlanta

  126. ahzroc says: Jun 27, 2017 5:24 PM

    Conclusion:

    Pats fans are the least Gracious in the NFL.

  127. commentawaitingdeletion says: Jun 27, 2017 5:35 PM

    ahzroc says:
    Jun 27, 2017 1:35 PM

    Explain how, SPECIFICALLY, Brady is better AT PLAYING THE POSITION OF QUARTERBACK than Drew Brees…
    no one is able to do that!
    ———————————————-

    In the NFL winning isn’t everything, it’s the only thing. Since you seem to require that be somehow quantified when it comes to “playing the position of quarterback” then putting their team in a position to win is number one with a bullet. The two most important measurable things a QB does for their team in order to accomplish that is throw the ball to create points and avoid the turnovers that prevent points from being scored. That is expressed statistically by the TD/INT Ratio and it is what indisputably separates Brady from Brees. It’s also the #1 reason that the majority of people listing top active quarterbacks always starts with Rodgers or Brady at 1 and the other at 2. Personally I put Brees 3rd, he is a sure fire 1st ballot HOF player.

    Conclusion: You are not a realist

  128. carloswlassiter says: Jun 27, 2017 5:46 PM

    vdub1980 says:

    You must of been sleeping or hiding under a rock during super bowl 50. Let me refresh your memory, 9 total tackles 5 sacks 1 int and 1 pass defenses. Pretty good for a 1 dimensional player
    ————————————————————
    This is an article about 2016. So Miller’s 2015 SB performance doesn’t count for squat.

  129. Covfefe2017 says: Jun 27, 2017 6:01 PM

    Like a post above says, Brady will take the Peyton plunge this year. It’s true he will. Injuries are coming, so is the beginning of the downfall for the Patriots.

  130. Flash1287 says: Jun 27, 2017 7:08 PM

    Covfefe2017 says:
    Jun 27, 2017 6:01 PM
    Like a post above says, Brady will take the Peyton plunge this year. It’s true he will. Injuries are coming, so is the beginning of the downfall for the Patriots.

    Yeah because we haven’t heard this for the last seven years
    By November the crybabies will be disappearing as usual when the Patriots are making yet another playoff/SB run

  131. Covfefe2017 says: Jun 27, 2017 7:26 PM

    That’s just the point. You are ignoring the fact that you have heard it before. Overconfidence leads about underachieving. It is going to happen my friend.

  132. Flash1287 says: Jun 28, 2017 8:25 AM

    Covfefe2017 is also concussion182
    Now it makes sense

  133. Covfefe2017 says: Jun 28, 2017 10:16 AM

    You’re a genius Gump! Now that makes sense. Doesn’t change the fact your Pats will crumble this year.

  134. factpurveyor says: Jun 28, 2017 9:17 PM

    Silly Raider fan with more than one user name must believe that voting 50 plus or even 100 plus times for his own postings will make them come true. Must also believe that thumb downing postings of others will change anything.

    Someone is obviously over compensating for what they don’t believe but wish would happen.

  135. fireroger says: Jun 30, 2017 3:42 PM

    I love the “put any QB on the Pats and they’d be just as good as Brady” argument.

    The Falcons dropped 28 points on the Pats last year.
    The Seahawks dropped 24 two years prior.

    Complete team my backside. At some point you have to give credit where credit is due. Even if you want to put Belichick over Brady he’s the clear cut runner up.

  136. bdevil1952 says: Jul 2, 2017 2:40 PM

    I am sorry, but if you put Brady on the Jets, you’d make them contenders too. It’s not always the system. There are Griffey Jr.’s., Ichiros, Ortizs, Montanas, Rices, Gretzkys, Orrs and Bradys that just come along once in a decade or generation. Appreciate their greatness and for those of you who cheered against them all of their careers, take a deep breath, swallow hard and admit to yourself that Brady is doing things that no one before him has every done and he may not be finished, if you believe the betting lines in Las Vegas for the upcoming NFL season.

    These polls have faults but after watching the top 10 show this past week, I don’t think they got it wrong. I know everyone outside of New England thinks Rodgers is 1A but, the fact is, the ring total is Brady 5, Rodgers 1 and isn’t that the most telling statistic?

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